As an African American, I am so not here for the diaspora wars. This is ridiculous. Also, Halle co-signed Tyla's response online, so if she wasn't bothered, we shouldn't be either. I think she is dope!
One thing you should know is artist don't have a say they work for the fans so Halle was not affected but her fans where , have you ever attacked mj and see what his fans will do
@@Czz-m6pyou don't know who she is but can tell she can be easily brainwashed? How do you come to that conclusion by just looking at someone..your comment makes no sense
@@longhappylife6209You are part of the 'them' in the post..well, it's not jealousy, it's you expecting her to look and behave like a beggar; cos that's your opinion of Africa and how Africans should behave..and she just isn't doing that..live and let live!
i say this with love as an outsider (australian-chinese, who has long-time close american friends and is actually dating one) - american culture loves to sensationalise and dramatise and seem to have this trigger when it comes to anything that can be made into a racial issue. I mean just look at the hate and hate crimes that were committed against ethnically chinese americans during the COVID period! i completely empathise and sympathise with the dark past of slavery in America and ongoing inter-generational trauma from that, but at some point you have to recognise that your people/country's history isn't the be-all and end-all. Heck, that would mean me hating Japanese people for the war crimes the Japanese committed against China. I also read comments about Tyla "invading" black culture - that is wild when she's literally South African and half black? That's like saying K-pop has invaded "Asian" culture, sure it has gotten popular in western mainstream media but Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Filipino, Thai, Malaysian etc cultures have always and will always remain uniquely different for those who know and care to know. She isn't trying to be someone she's not, to me she has always publicly and proudly stated she's South African, she isn't trying to put on a "blaccent", change up her music or personality. The hypocrisy of woke american culture campaigning for "being yourself" but at the same time taking offense to her mannerisms (which are affected by her culture and where she grew up).... There are genuine racial issues to get angry at, the hate for Tyla is so extreme and stupid. I will say though, she does come off awkward in interviews, but she's said herself that she's pretty introverted. But that's something she can get training for and will get better with experience.
I see there is a cultural divide here and I'm not sure either side is going to fully understand. In America "coloured" meant you were one up on "black" folks. They would act that way as well. Now I recently heard a story from Souty Africa were a "coloured" man was caught being prejudice and discriminating against "black Africans". The colonizer have even turned our own racist against each other. PLEASE stop blaming each other, especially is were all black. We've all been taught lighter is brighter and equates to better, Which is FALSE AS HELL
@skysthelimit780 y'all shit talk about Black American Culture but copy it. You talk shit about Black American Culture but you wouldn't be able to bring your arse here if it wasn't for Black Americans Fighting for that right foot EVERYONE. The truly truly sad part is the COLONIALISM, COLOURISM, RACISM AND HATRED were seeds planted by the colonizers in every place they set foot. Look at how well it has taught everyone else to hate on their own kind. Until WE ALL RELEASE ourselves from that mentality we will always be at each other's throats. Have that day you deserve. ❤️
I'm so tired of people wanting to "humble" black women. Trust me, it's not just happening to black and mixed women from Africa. The culture of humbling black women is here in America, too. One way its done here is black men telling black women that their college degrees are useless. For some reason, people take issue with black women being proud of themselves or their accomplishments.
Girl stop lying yall females got way more protection in Mari yall getting all the black girl magic and degrees being independent yall are not going to lie in this channel
You are spot on. White Americans called confident blacks 'uppity' because they are confident, talented and sharp. Now Black Americans call blacks from the continent uppity. Weird.
In Tyla’s defense, I am from the Dominican Republic and considered myself mixed just like Tyla says she’s colored but I noticed some Americans get offended by that. Some lady even told me “ no honey you’re black”😂😂. I am not denying my skin color,I am proud of who I am, but I find it odd that strangers feel like they can tell others about their heritage 😅.
Lol first off people need to get into the nitty gritty of why people use certain terminologies. Tyla refers to herself as coloured because in South Africa coloured people are a mix of black South Africans and other nationalities that are usual white skinned mostly Europeans. So all this beef and long talk isn’t necessary. It is a terminology that they use for saying I’m mixed race or mixed origin etc
@@QueenK88 ok ma’am but you get my point. But two or more races equals one person is that not a mixed race? Please check the definition of race in terms of heritage.
@@kezzy_kezzy And honestly as black South Africans ain't no way we gonna allow her to refer to herself as black coz she's not black we still love her though.
@@QueenK88Tyla has literally explained multiple times that it quite literally *is* a race where she comes from. You guys are choosing to not listen atp.
As an American, one who moved to Africa. I agree with all this. I have so much to say on this. Maybe I’ll upload a video on my channel about it. But there’s definitely a psychology to the black American hate Tyla gets. & honestly I’m exhausted with it.
unfortunately we Black Americans have not been able to articulate this well, but we not feeling Tyla because 1) she said she is not Black yet is being shoved into Black spaces and forced onto us. Case and point, the Breakfast Club situation, and literally winning an Afrobeat award over Black artist and she doesn't even do Afrobeats. 2) She is an industry plant forced by corporations to try to be the face of a musical culture because She is racially ambiguous. She has the Black African culture, or at least part of it, and she has a look that is palatable to white people. I call it the Drake effect, but unlike Drake she does not understand the Black American culture enough to insert herself, nor has she proven his level of logevity. Not to mention Drake has Black American roots i.e. he literally has family members who were Black American artist. 3) Probably the most important to the answer to your question, the thing that Black Americans can sense that we do not like is the antiblackness. Some of us may not be able to articulate in full, simply because they do not understand the history of South Africa, and in particular the Coloured community as a whole. The Coloured community in South Africa as a whole is extremely antiblack. UA-cam it for references if you need to do your research. It is not the whole community, I want to throw that out there. I also wasn't to throw out there that Tyla herself never in particular said anything antiblack to my knowledge, but the energy she exudes lends it self to the "I'm better than you because of my lighter skin". And one would say that this was a trigger from a inferiority complex, until you do the research and realize that the Category of Coloured in South Africa is literally meant to be a step above Black due to lighter skin. Unfortunately, Tyla exudes this because it is literally embedded in the fabric of her culture, and it shows to Black Americans, because if we are good at detecting anything it is detecting White Supremacy and detecting antiblackness. Both white supremacy and antiblackness runs so much deeper then it is ever given credit for to the point where sometimes it seems it's a conspiracy theory. If you ever doubt this, just keep in mind that the only reason vanilla is so associated with white when it is actually brown/black is because it was considered too taste too good to be Black, and let that sink in. Our inability to break the complexity of something like this down is not just specific to us. you see the same type of unexplained dislike for Americans when abroad. Everyone says Americans exude this sense of entitlement, arrogance, and self-centeredness, and it is because it is embedded in the fabric of our society to the point where it is a part of our identity that we are not even conscious of. So we do something we see as normal it becomes borderline offensive to another person or culture. So hopefully that helps you and maybe even some Black people who could not quite put their finger on what they were feeling or seeing, better understand.
@@_Lesplay unfortunately we Black Americans have not been able to articulate this well, but we not feeling Tyla because 1) she said she is not Black yet is being shoved into Black spaces and forced onto us. Case and point, the Breakfast Club situation, and literally winning an Afrobeat award over Black artist and she doesn't even do Afrobeats. 2) She is an industry plant forced by corporations to try to be the face of a musical culture because She is racially ambiguous. She has the Black African culture, or at least part of it, and she has a look that is palatable to white people. I call it the Drake effect, but unlike Drake she does not understand the Black American culture enough to insert herself, nor has she proven his level of logevity. Not to mention Drake has Black American roots i.e. he literally has family members who were Black American artist. 3) Probably the most important to the answer to your question, the thing that Black Americans can sense that we do not like is the antiblackness. Some of us may not be able to articulate in full, simply because they do not understand the history of South Africa, and in particular the Coloured community as a whole. The Coloured community in South Africa as a whole is extremely antiblack. UA-cam it for references if you need to do your research. It is not the whole community, I want to throw that out there. I also wasn't to throw out there that Tyla herself never in particular said anything antiblack to my knowledge, but the energy she exudes lends it self to the "I'm better than you because of my lighter skin". And one would say that this was a trigger from a inferiority complex, until you do the research and realize that the Category of Coloured in South Africa is literally meant to be a step above Black due to lighter skin. Unfortunately, Tyla exudes this because it is literally embedded in the fabric of her culture, and it shows to Black Americans, because if we are good at detecting anything it is detecting White Supremacy and detecting antiblackness. Both white supremacy and antiblackness runs so much deeper then it is ever given credit for to the point where sometimes it seems it's a conspiracy theory. If you ever doubt this, just keep in mind that the only reason vanilla is so associated with white when it is actually brown/black is because it was considered too taste too good to be Black, and let that sink in. Our inability to break the complexity of something like this down is not just specific to us. you see the same type of unexplained dislike for Americans when abroad. Everyone says Americans exude this sense of entitlement, arrogance, and self-centeredness, and it is because it is embedded in the fabric of our society to the point where it is a part of our identity that we are not even conscious of. So we do something we see as normal it becomes borderline offensive to another person or culture. So hopefully that helps you and maybe even some Black people who could not quite put their finger on what they were feeling or seeing, better understand.
No one is on Tyla's level.They have no one to compare her with especially coming from Africa.Her song writing is not superficial.Its always catchy and has deeper meaning.
Americans hate Tyla because of that coloured thing so now they get annoyed by everything she says or does. They aren't over the fact that she identifies as coloured that's all this is. What she did at the VMAs has been done by other artists and was never an issue.
This is why so many are scared of being themselves. Society has a certain expectation of everyone and the moment one breaks ranks with such expectations they get attacked for all the other fake reasons. She doesn't identify with struggles because most people growing in Africa see the struggle as something to overcome. We don't think we are condemned into the struggles by a system. And if we feel that way we look for a way to escape the unfavourable system.
if you ask me, and I know nobody asked me, but almost ALL the music coming from SA is meaningful. ALL the amapiano I listen to, and I've been listening for some years now, has positive or real messages, much more so than the stuff we hear over here in the United States. This music is so good, I find the lyrics and study isiZulu just so I could know what the artist is saying. Believe me, it's all good . . . and I love isiZulu!!! L
I'm from Atlanta, USA, Georgia and I don't listen to much American music for the past three or four years. Sorry. South African Amapiano had taken over me. I wonder what would happen if they brought Nkozasana Daughter, Kamo Mpela, Lady Amar, Paige and other big South African artists to the American stage? Black Americans, we need to cut this hating out. Please. Let's just enjoy ourselves, our lives, our counterparts on the Continent and leave this girl alone. Please let her live her dream the same way you'd like to live your own dreams. Please. I'm begging. God bless America. God bless South Africa. Ngiyabonga. (That means thank you in isiZulu.) enuf said. L
@@pantherasad2114 Music is big in SA, those artist in SA like Tyla they make it in SA alone that international stage is just extra. She can end going there and still make music in SA and win awards and make money. I don't know if u realize that in SA the musicians make money over there she can just come back to SA and still be killing it. U dig.
@@_Lesplay in general bro...I'm South African my barber is Ghanaian...you guys are nice people no wonder I liked your videos so quickly...big up to Ghana💯
Non - Americans complain about Back Americans being snobbish, Same difference. She should have brought her assistant on stage to hold her award. They get paid for it. American A list celebrities do not. The American Music Awards has always been the Taylor Swift Show anyway.
The question is why do you have a problem with her asking someone for help?? If Nicki or Halle or Chloe Bailey did that would it be a problem?? It wouldn't.
@@supreme9801 the lack of etiquette is not about the awards. It's more of a lack of cultural awareness then it is lack of awareness. Personally, I know her backlash is because she is not Black but is being forced into Black spaces and onto the Black community.
Guys it's not Jealousy, we always had beautiful and powerful woman in the industry. It's her attitude and lack of awareness to American culture. She wants to be a star but doesn't have the star hospitality that makes them loved around the world. It has nothing to do with her looks im sure we all prefer someone good looking in these star rolls
American culture, What is that? Calling each other 'Bitch?' Vulgar lyrics. P Diddy vibes? We watch Judge Judy, And that whose the daddy court stuff. What is your culture?
Once she gets to the podium and gets her award she should call either Victoria Monet or Normani up the stage to come and help her by holding the award whilst she gives a speech
Sorry, but I genuinely have a question, im ignorant i know but pls can someone educate me what is Black American culture?. I said it am ignorant, i just want to know what it really is, because Black Americans unapologetically say pple copy them but am not really sure what we are copying.
Their way of dressing, their way of talking and slang(cap, aight bet, you got me f*cked up, my bad, finna), their dances, rapping, and even black women's hand gestures when they talk. That's just a few but look everywhere around the world and black american culture is there somehow.
@@_Lesplay Hmm I guessed as much what I'm seeing as the Black American culture then is diffused all over the world from Africa, to Asia (in terms of dressing). Language Tyla is not speaking their language and hand gestures, really? I hear you but the problem with the culture you just said is 1) It is not viewed as something positive across the world. 2) The aspect of dressing, language and swag is that it is EVERYWHERE even white pple dress the same. Hmmm, It is well.
@@_LesplayI'm gonna be honest with you, you can call it culture but it isn't. Well, at least not in tge essence of being passed down from generation to generation, this is why it changes from generation to generation. It's simply street culture like what we used to do growing. Do you genuinely think those things are taught by parents or uncles? For sure, a few things like soul food, certain music etc is culture bc it's taught by elders. But things like breakdancing, bboy etc is street culture bc no elders teach that. Sure, I can agree your father can teach you how to rap but most of the things you mentioned are learned from the street and change from time to time easily. Culture does change but not easily. So, imo some of it is culture, some of it isn't. Especially talking. "Finna, gonna, etc" isn't culture bc not all black Americans are raised that way. It's simply slang. If you call something culture of an ethnic group then it should be the norm in every family but this isn't. This is street culture regardless of race but it's predominant among black Americans bc they invented it. It's still street culture, not generational culture.
I genuinely think that Africa should just celebrate it's own music and create its own award shows that recognises and popularises music from different parts of the continent. I also think that white people have nothing to do with this. It's an African and African American beef. The average white person couldn't careless about this and rightfully so, it has nothing to do with them. Lets stop pointing fingers at white people as though their the boogie man behind the scenes making sure that Africa is unsuccessful. It's this same kind of mindset that has caused African Americans from doing well in a country where Africans and other immigrants go and succeed.
Yes! I also think thid will give a different prioception to the music culture. Africa market is huge and not very well explored. Because if they don’t get it to Anglo Saxon community, the world don’t know much!
Absolutely. It's high time we as Africans value and feel proud of our assets. We don't need any validation from the West. They'll always suffocate us when we lick their boots
Don't speak on black Americans mindset because you have NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. IT'S BEST YOU REMAIN Quiet. We are the reason your people are even able to migrate To the United States...have you heard of civil rights in America? Don't come over here judging us .
I’m African American and we don’t think African need to be barefoot or whatever the comments was. It’s the the fact that Tyler only has two songs as is getting the praise some one like Tems Ayra Starr or Burna boy should have. And it’s mainly because she not black and her music is more relatable to white ppl. We just don’t feel her as much.
Tyla makes AMAPIANO (a south african genre) with a hint of pop and RnB. How is that more relatable to white people? If Tems and Burna deserved the award so much why didn’t Nigeria, a country that has a population almost 218M+ people which is like 4 times the population of South Africa, not manage to get one of their artists who infact were a majority of the nominees enough votes???
@@mr.sailii her vibe is more pop is what I’m saying. You’re average white person wouldn’t genuinely understand the vibes of a Ayra Starr or burna boy. And you just said that her style has a hint of hip-hop and R&B some people might be throwing off because they see that influence and she kind of disassociating herself from black culture. Which I understand because she’s not black. But for some it’s off putting. For me her style is a little more pop. Her image is a little more pop and she’s earning awards and status for people that’s been putting in the work way longer than she hasn’t has a catalog way extensive than hers. But because they are black and embrace that they don’t have the same light shed on them.
@@mr.sailii white ppl controls those vote btw you know like I know if it was a even playing field Tyler wouldn’t stand a chance against these afrobeats artist that been killing it’s for years and actually put the African scene on the map fr.
@@destinywilliams8597 Nigerian artists have been the main African artists for years and have been winning awards and getting nominated (You can look them up). It’s currently Tyla’s moment and she just so happened to have arrived when these African categories were introduced to the VMAs and grammies. I’m African too btw and i’m neither Nigerian or South African. I can legit say that Tyla is a breath of fresh air. Her international appeal is what makes her stand out from her peers.
@@mr.sailii as they should be winning it for years because they are the ones that deserve it. It doesn’t have anything to do with Nigerian artist or not. I’m talking about Afrobeats in general. Those are the artists that stands out and those those are the artist that actually put African music on the scene for real they did ones that really put Africa on the map. Everybody else was sleep. So you put all these people that’s been winning awards for years of begins one little cute song That’s not even her category for real. So focused on Nigerian artist how about you come out with more South African artist and make your own category and when your own rightful award categories
That’s all 100 million streams isn’t a lot so go do the math on how much th makes an artist that many streams only mean gold album your not even platinum
@@KeithEasley-qd9pb She has over 1.5 billion streams in total - And for an African artists that is a lot. This is on her 1st album. She also has Platinum and Gold status already.
@@_Lesplay It’s probably a combination of the of the trophy incident, the “Colored” perseverance (which is an offensive term in US although apparently not in SA) and general lack of awareness of American sensibilities. She might be a very nice person, however, perception is reality especially in the entertainment industry. If you want to be successful in a certain market, you have to adapt and understand these things or quite frankly you’re just wasting your time. Also, it’s only logical that you’re not going to be successful with people you’re perceived as distancing yourself from…it’s just not going to work. It’s like going on a job interview and acting like you don’t want to be a team player yet expecting to get the job.
@@sherwoodla6535 you seem open-minded enough so I hope you won’t mind me probing a little bit? The trophy incident seemed not to have been an “incident” in the countless other instances where American women (both black and white) asked for help with holding their trophy. It’s strange that this action only warrants backlash when Tyla does it Also, on the “coloured perseverance”, Tyla has never actually gone out of her way to reference her race while in the US. The discourse around her race started because people found a TikTok video she made years ago for Heritage Day while she was IN SOUTH AFRICA. She was explaining her ethnicity (Coloured) while actually celebrating her Black African (Zulu) heritage. She only subsequently spoke on her race in response to the backlash she was receiving from Black Americans over her use of the term. She has previously said she acknowledges the negative origins of the word in the US and doesn’t expect anyone to identify her using the word if they’re not comfortable. So she actually has tried to show an understanding of American sensibilities. I give this context to say that I think it’s something deeper when she hasn’t ACTUALLY done anything. South Africa did not adopt the one drop rule. We love Tyla but fully acknowledge her as a mixed race woman. To me it seems that some Black Americans interpreted her acknowledgement of her mixedness as a rejection of blackness and have been nitpicking her every move as punishment ever since. Is it possible that my assessment is correct?
@@teeraynee Thanks for the compliment, it's genuinely appreciated. Just a couple of points though: 1- If Tyla were to accidentally wonder onto a SA Farmer's property, would she be dealt with any differently than the SA Blacks who were brutally un-alived by being burned to death or cut up and fed to the pigs as reported recently? I doubt it, so I question whether the "One Drop" rule isn't also practiced in SA. 2- Leading with your mixed-race status to blacks is not going to endear you to them. When Megan Markle visited Nigeria, she wore native Nigerian clothing, put her hair up in a bun and made no mention of her mixed-race status even though in the US and UK she is only referred to as mixed-race (not black) and her phenotype leans HEAVELY white. to the point of presenting white unless you met her black mother. 3-If I visited any African country, including SA, as a "mixed race" FBA (25% northern European which is not unusual here) I would still identify as Balck to show unity #1 with Black Africans and demonstrate that the world sees me as Black not mixed race #2. This is how you win over people of other cultures. Anyway, at the end of the day, it will be the American court of public opinion that will determine Tyla's success here.
@@sherwoodla6535 1 - While Coloured people were also subjugated under the apartheid regime, their non-Black ancestry meant that they were given a few more rights than fully Black people. The fact that they weren’t 100% Black African meant that they were not relegated to the absolute bottom - so actually the opposite of the one drop rule. There are still remnants of this sentiment amongst White racists today. The boldest among them even proclaim this loudly. They may see Coloured people as inferior to themselves but most of them definitely think Black people are inferior to Coloured people. So that farmer very well could’ve spared a Coloured person. None of this is Tyla’s fault though so it’s a moot point either way. 2 - She never “led with her mixed race status”. The discourse around her race started because people found a video she made in 2020 as a teenager where she was celebrating her heritage for a South African holiday while in South Africa, just like every other South African does on that day. She never referenced her race in the US at any point other than to address the backlash she was receiving for her use of the term in that video. I don’t know where the idea that she was going around demanding to be identified as Coloured and scoffing at being identified as Black comes from. This never happened. You wouldn’t know this, but she’s actually shown herself to be very pro-Black and frequently celebrates her Black African heritage, but still - she is not Black by SA’s definition. 3 - it would be extremely disingenuous of her to outright identify herself as Black to global audiences when she’s never had to navigate life as a fully Black person. She would alienate both Black and Coloured South Africans by going around claiming to be something she’s not. I also highly doubt all Black Americans would have received it well if she outright claimed Blackness, considering your attitudes towards people like Cardi B, Kamala Harris and recently Drake. People would have eventually come across her family pictures and start accusing her of lying and cosplaying. From what I’ve seen on social media, there isn’t actually a consensus among you guys about how mixed race people should identify - so in my opinion, she was damned if she did and damned if she didn’t. People are obviously free to have their opinions. I just have a problem when the opinions are baseless and seem to be fuelled by prejudice. It’s very possible to dislike the girl and ignore her afterwards, like a normal person. There’s absolutely no need for people to go out of their way to invent narratives to propel a hate train against her when she hasn’t ACTUALLY done anything to warrant it.
Foreigners are so obsessed about South Africans . If it was a South African making this post , I would believe it . Don't worry about Tyla , South Africans don't hate her , worry about artists from your country .
They want her worship them since they made her what she is today. All of her songs are made for them, not even her people. She doesn't sing Amapiano genre.
@@_Lesplay tell me please what is there to be jealous of about that girl. Everything she's ever done we have seen waaaaaaay better in our culture. We black americans rarely think or speak about an African until we see them on TV acting stuck up. That's when we tell it like we seen it. We r the blueprint and could never be jealous of an African.
@francestate799 we don't even know who you are😂 we know who tyla is tho. And what blueprint are you talking about lol Africa been the blueprint and origin of culture dating thousands of years not a few decades like how old hip hop or rnb is,,,please dumb as nighas
@_Lesplay Tyla has been absolutely forced onto Black Americans, and we are not feeling her. And it really is not a we don't like Africans thing, because we clearly love Burner Boy, Tems❤, Ayra Stat😍, Akon, Michael Blackson, Patrice Lumumba, the list goes on. We honestly are not feeling Tyla, because she said she is not Black and we withdrew our Black support and we are tired of having her forced in Black spaces. We are going to support our Black artist. The fundamental issue here is 1) Africans deep down don't respect African Americans, which is why you all think you can bully us into accepting the girl 2) Africans do not understand Black unity, she won an award for music she does not even do over actual Black artist that do 3) you all are so desperate to make this girl the representation of your music and she said she not even Black, the snow bunny crisis is real. At the root of these three things: (jealousy/tribalism, inability to unify, chasing after White people) is probably majority of the reason Africa is in the state it is in right now.
@@AngelorVanneel No one denies Africa is the motherland from which all derives. But yall lack of Black unity is absolutely disturbing and shows why the entire Black race globally is in the state it is in. Yall out here defending Tyal behind your stupid pride and trying to prop her up as your African representation and she told yall she not Black. Why would you want her winning an Afrobeats award and she does not do Afrobeats nor is she Black? The girl literally won the award because she is not Black and is racially ambiguous. She beat out actual Black artist when she literally not in the genre of music. Africa is majority Black and you all don't even have the ability to see that they are making the face of Africa i.e. African music non Black. The same way they made the face of North Africa not Black, the same way they try to make the face of East Africa not Black, the same way South Africa made the there Ms. SOUTH AFRICA NOT BLACK. At this point you all are being piss poor and absolutely pathetic. Have some damn pride in yourselves and stop being weak in the knees over non-black people and white supremacy. Africa is were culture comes from but yall stay chasing after other cultures from Arab cultures to European culture. Stand the fuck up and be leaders instead of all the damn internet trolls living in every place but the African country they were born in. Make Africa worth a damn so all Black people can point to at least one Black African country and say "that's a Black Super power".
She reminds me of Amber Rose very confused if Halle Berry knows she's black Kamala Harris know she's black Mariah Carey know she's black you are off point Tyler needs to get herself together you'll need to sit down and talk to this young woman because she's missing the point and you're missing the point by spreading this
Are you dumb ? Y'all black american are so stupid, I am not even shicked anymore when they try to eliminate y'all. Y'ALL ARE NOT THE CENTER OF THIS WORLD ! NOT EVERYTHING IS OFFENSIVE AND WE WON'T CHANGE CULTURE FOR Y'ALL SELFISH AND ILLITERATE ASS.
@@residenthypewomanhe sounds and looks Ghanaian tbf. Yeah Nigerian and Ghanaian accents are similar and can be confusing but when you're around them, it's easy to tell apart. The look tho is so different
What I don't understand is how she got the energy to hold the award to take pictures with it later on that night? But, if it's too much heat over here, there's always room on a plane for her to go back to S. Africa.
Lol first off people need to get into the nitty gritty of why people use certain terminologies. Tyla refers to herself as coloured because in South Africa coloured people are a mix of black South Africans and other nationalities that are usual white skinned mostly Europeans. So all this beef and long talk isn’t necessary. It is a terminology that they use for saying I’m mixed race or mixed origin etc She’s very much misunderstood 😅
There's so many people we don't like but we just keep going on with our lives, not declaring our dislike for them at every turn. We also don't take time from our day to comment hate on content that has to do with said person. Thanks for coming to MORALS AND VALUES 101
with all due respect .... as Tyla enters a space that African Americans built, it would be wise to become more culturally competent and better understand the etiquette and history of our culture. Her initial lack of response to the colored question on the Breakfast Club was off putting to most Black Americans unaware of South African culture (which is the majority of that audience). Most people didn't read the written statement that followed that interview. Words mean things, and its important to put things in context when you're a public figure. For many Black Americans, this is just the cherry on top of the decades of West, East and Southern Africans entering America with a mentality of superiority embedded in them by their colonizers ..... we're over it. Approach this culture we built with some respect and humility or you can go. Sorry not sorry
Yall would have nitpicked her explanation and found something negative just like you are doing with the VMAs situation. It’s ok you don’t like her for whatever reason. I am sure there plenty who like her. Let’s all move on
Well you are right. That’s why i think these arguments are great because it’s by clashing with each other that we would be able to put ourselves in the other person shoes and maybe one day nobody will need to be dragged because we would all finally understand that no side is superior to the other
She asked for help!! She said please, thank you, sorry. It's actually HUMAN to ask for help if you need it. Femininity must only be reserved for Americans, I guess.
@@shandapuhhuh I totally agree but she didn't meet him halfway or go up and look him in the eye when she asked. Like yeah you here! It was just bad form and then she doubled down saying we cant tell her shit. Well now i cant listen to you until you act like you have some sense and understand how it couldve came of crazy. APOLOGIZING IS FREEEEEE.
Now the Nigerians are joining our fight. Welcome brothers. Leason number 1: Be proud of your language. Leason Number 2: Fight for your country. Leason Number 3. Fight for your people no matter if they are white or black, Igbo or Yoruba. Leason Number 4: Don't kiss behinds for anyone big or small. This fight is about Africans and their place in the world; no one should disrespect us. We are proud Africans if they think we are animals. Then we will give them sleepless nights.
it has nothing to do with African pride and everything to do with a lack of respect for the space Black Americans build ... but I digress. Tired of the product of colonization keeping us in debate over the same topics.
I'm not even Nigerian but this comment is cap. Nigerians were one of the first people to branch to America in Africa and the whole time they were unapologetically themselves, they spoke pidgin, did numbers with songs in pidgin, sold out concerts and celebrated by AA. The difference is that most of them were already established artists with already big fan bases before branching out of the continent so their popularity was very organic. So when burna boy said why is my name so small on the flier, he had earned the right to have his name blown out cuz he had already proved himself, his artistry and his talent. Lil miss thing however is an upcoming artist coming with a new genre trying to be successful in a competitive market with a sound most are not used do. The least she can do is learn, read the room and understand her target audience. But people would rather just choke it up to hatin and hyping her up making her head swell even more before she has built a stable fan base.
Black Americans are not Africans, we africans don't define ourselves as black buh rather by our culture , ethnicity, tribe ect not race like u black Americans as u call your selves, tylar will forever be African and we Africans will forever support her ❤. Cos we Africans don't define ourselves as black people buh rather Africans regardless of our skin tone
We are African and we see what’s going on. The attention Tyler is getting off one song is the praise someone like Tems Ayra Starr or burna boy should get. N it’s mainly because she’s not black and her music is more relatable to white ppl.
for real I don't get it come on now Guys what the conversation should be about Is how they're giving the whole of Africa one type of music style and want us to be greatful for the so call "Award" Listern...... She probably didn't want the award because it's not her's since she doesn't do Afrobeat music that's actually what she was trying to say nicely in her speech and trust me she wasn't thinking of all that u guys are saying or where ever you're taking the conversation to As an African (🇬🇭) we all know what was happening 😅😅 She was thinking of the West Africa And South Africa war ( Ama piano Vs Afrobeat) over our music which actually has nothing to do with America at all The way America treat our Art coming from Africa always seems very insulting & degrading to Us so No!!! I don't think She Tyla, would then turn around and be rude or disrespectful to someone especially on stage at that very moment when she's trying to make a point people lets relax and love each other 🙏
Black Americans are jealous and mean cos Tyla doesn't share there perspective and she's unapologetically SA. Not pretending to be from the US. An amazing trailblazer in ballet passed away today, Michaela DePrince, she should be trending but they would rather hate. BA and America itself is the center of the universe. They like to dominate everything and whatever they say is gospel.
@@dazedconfuseds I think it has to do with colorism. many have had experiences with light skins that think they are better than their dark skinned peers. on top of a culture that gives more privilege to light skins. she also not only light skinned but very pretty
@@GovanBassonTotalkaosMotion no I really didn’t lol I’ve watched interviews I’ve watched this moment and more she really doesn’t give that to me. She seems sweet bubbly and confident and never arrogant or big headed. Especially comparing her to a lot of these female rappers in the states she’s very humble to me
@@somindlesssmedia where are u from.. Maybe u don't understand her mannerisms because u not from the same place... Her vibe is super the opposite of what u just said. Weird..and many people are feeling the same vibe as i... So i know im right
first off, she is too confident especially when Drake started following her, a cocky attitude there...and other situations too...i noticed that but let it go then as time went along her whole personality seemed to follow that "uppity" demeanor...i love her but she needs to be way more humble IMO...
What is "too confident"? There is a white female star right now who speaks her mind way more than Tyla. I've forgotten her name but everyone calls her "real". So why is Tyla too confident??
Weren't you guys telling her to be careful of the industry? For months, all the comments were about how she should preserve herself. You are all having weird reasons to dislike her and it's... Nasty.
Do you know the date when Drake followed her? Yall say anything. If you look up Tyla’s interviews from 2021 in South Africa, she was just as real as she is now.
Hatred must not be hidden behind American culture. We know their pure rich culture because it was never hidden under the carpet. Not the one we are witnessing now, contaminated by hatred and malice. Tyla copied everything from them. This confident and self believing is from black Americans. We Tyla emulate their culture they call arrogant. We did not call it arrogant when they performed and displayed their culture. Tyla copied everything about them, their style and confident and they cry. How do you achieve anything without self believe and self confident. That is why they became successful. Why now this inferiority complex, feeling threatened by everybody, including Tyla. COME ON😊
South Africa is the weakest link in Africa, through South Africa the colonizers lay claim on some part of our African ancestral land. Tyla is a South African, they're using her insidiously as an industry plant to anger Black Americans, and also trying to belittle the work of top Nigerian artist' who are right now almost making Nigeria the dominant force in the music industry. Tyla is another weak link. Some artist have several hit songs that has gone global, they don't win awards, but someone with one hit song is getting the awards, yeah! Don't come to me with some excuses about criteria that they use in making judgements because that's a lame excuse and total BS!
You sound so dumb 😂. Isn't it Americans who are giving her those awards and the spotlight. Tyla was never even that big in South Africa prior to the water song. If you have anyone to blame, blame yourselves. You are the ones who gave an Afrobeats award to an amapiano artist. You are the weakest link. You keep on promoting and giving praise to people who look like Tyla and get surprised when nothing changes. You gave people like Ice Spice spotlight and wonder why darker skinned tone people aren't succeeding. YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK
The truth is we need a new flock. Hollywood is getting older and new generation is needed to merge. The world for the Young Beautiful a Powerful. The old would fight go stay in place. We are looking at a new rihanna, a new beyonce. There’s only 1 number 1 then the hall of fame, people that are only remember to say they were number 1, but actual nobody really pay much attention anymore. I love me some tyla! ❤❤❤
@@_Lesplay The ‘Colored” self identification appears to be a blatant attempt to distance herself from the Blacks she wants to market herself to. Yes, that’s unacceptable arrogance! She should go market herself to other coloreds and whites then as those appear to be her people. Attitude is everything. For example, white entertainers attempt to market themselves to blacks , they typically approach with a respectful and humble attitude, e.g,. George Michael, Tina Marie, etc.
Blatant attempt to distance herself form black people?? Even after it has been explained that colored has a different meaning in South Africa?? Why would she collaborate with Travis Scott if she wanted to do that?? You're just refusing to understand stand someone else's culture and want her to bow down to yours. Sounds very white to me.
Lesplay look at how that African walked up on stage that is out of character with black American culture. we greet each other with a specific handshake most black women when Greet each other with a hug please try to learn African-American culture if you want to sing here. Please go back and look at how she walked on stage and approach those black people.
@@_Lesplay lesplay try to stay on topic when you’re talking I am not talking about white American culture!!!!! I am talking about (black American culture.) I am speaking on how we greet one another the hugs the handshakes. White people know how to greet Black people with respect.🤷🏿♂️go back to look Tyla as she approaches the Black people on stage disgusting despicable. learn our culture or either sing to your own people. It’s not that big of a deal.
@cheesebeef4902 That is exactly what white people say. Learn to act like us if you want to do business with us. That's crazy. She's South African and she acts like it and that's fine. Sing to your own people lol. When Kendrick goes to Rwanda does he have to act like them to take their ticket money?
@@_Lesplay lesplay I will say one more thing and I will let it go. Yes we have to act white if we African-Americans are going to singing country music Beyoncé country music sounds different than her R&B yes, Darius rukus music has to sound white!!! stay in your lane !!the best thing you can do for yourself is stop talking about white people!! “there is no way that white people could have taken us from the continent of Africa alone🤫 stop talking you talk too much!!!
@@_Lesplay They mean she has to bow down, kiss dem batty & pretend that Americans invented music & everything black. It’s just pure stupidity, ignorance & jealousy. They’re soo annoying 🙄.
@@chiemeniteokoye-john6685 have you ever seen beyonce, rihanna or nicki minaj acting like they cant carry an award? i have no problem with her but she's doing too much
@@fasho387 me I feel like shes getting scrutinized for something so petty. She asked someone to help her carry her award Ehen and so what. You were comparing her to Beyoncé and Rihanna, tyla is her own person she can do whatever she wants 🤷🏾♀️
As an African American, I am so not here for the diaspora wars. This is ridiculous. Also, Halle co-signed Tyla's response online, so if she wasn't bothered, we shouldn't be either. I think she is dope!
One thing you should know is artist don't have a say they work for the fans so Halle was not affected but her fans where , have you ever attacked mj and see what his fans will do
@@TGWSFwell they need to get a life.
Jealousy makes them nasty
What are we jealous of
Idk who she is but I feel like she the type to get brainwash very easy by western huzz
@@Czz-m6pyou don't know who she is but can tell she can be easily brainwashed? How do you come to that conclusion by just looking at someone..your comment makes no sense
@@longhappylife6209You are part of the 'them' in the post..well, it's not jealousy, it's you expecting her to look and behave like a beggar; cos that's your opinion of Africa and how Africans should behave..and she just isn't doing that..live and let live!
@@longhappylife6209you're one of them that hates someone for being completely different and everything else
i say this with love as an outsider (australian-chinese, who has long-time close american friends and is actually dating one) - american culture loves to sensationalise and dramatise and seem to have this trigger when it comes to anything that can be made into a racial issue. I mean just look at the hate and hate crimes that were committed against ethnically chinese americans during the COVID period! i completely empathise and sympathise with the dark past of slavery in America and ongoing inter-generational trauma from that, but at some point you have to recognise that your people/country's history isn't the be-all and end-all. Heck, that would mean me hating Japanese people for the war crimes the Japanese committed against China. I also read comments about Tyla "invading" black culture - that is wild when she's literally South African and half black? That's like saying K-pop has invaded "Asian" culture, sure it has gotten popular in western mainstream media but Chinese, Korean, Japanese, Filipino, Thai, Malaysian etc cultures have always and will always remain uniquely different for those who know and care to know. She isn't trying to be someone she's not, to me she has always publicly and proudly stated she's South African, she isn't trying to put on a "blaccent", change up her music or personality.
The hypocrisy of woke american culture campaigning for "being yourself" but at the same time taking offense to her mannerisms (which are affected by her culture and where she grew up)....
There are genuine racial issues to get angry at, the hate for Tyla is so extreme and stupid. I will say though, she does come off awkward in interviews, but she's said herself that she's pretty introverted. But that's something she can get training for and will get better with experience.
Love this
I see there is a cultural divide here and I'm not sure either side is going to fully understand. In America "coloured" meant you were one up on "black" folks. They would act that way as well. Now I recently heard a story from Souty Africa were a "coloured" man was caught being prejudice and discriminating against "black Africans". The colonizer have even turned our own racist against each other. PLEASE stop blaming each other, especially is were all black. We've all been taught lighter is brighter and equates to better, Which is FALSE AS HELL
@skysthelimit780 y'all shit talk about Black American Culture but copy it. You talk shit about Black American Culture but you wouldn't be able to bring your arse here if it wasn't for Black Americans Fighting for that right foot EVERYONE. The truly truly sad part is the COLONIALISM, COLOURISM, RACISM AND HATRED were seeds planted by the colonizers in every place they set foot. Look at how well it has taught everyone else to hate on their own kind. Until WE ALL RELEASE ourselves from that mentality we will always be at each other's throats.
Have that day you deserve. ❤️
@skysthelimit780 BLACK FOLKS I didn't say country, continent or nationality. ALL BLACK FOLKS NEED TO DO AND BE BETTER TO EACH OTHER. SMDH
I'm so tired of people wanting to "humble" black women. Trust me, it's not just happening to black and mixed women from Africa. The culture of humbling black women is here in America, too. One way its done here is black men telling black women that their college degrees are useless. For some reason, people take issue with black women being proud of themselves or their accomplishments.
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Tyla is not black
Girl stop lying yall females got way more protection in Mari yall getting all the black girl magic and degrees being independent yall are not going to lie in this channel
@@KeithEasley-qd9pbShe's not lying at all. It's the truth.
You are spot on. White Americans called confident blacks 'uppity' because they are confident, talented and sharp. Now Black Americans call blacks from the continent uppity. Weird.
In Tyla’s defense, I am from the Dominican Republic and considered myself mixed just like Tyla says she’s colored but I noticed some Americans get offended by that. Some lady even told me “ no honey you’re black”😂😂. I am not denying my skin color,I am proud of who I am, but I find it odd that strangers feel like they can tell others about their heritage 😅.
Lol first off people need to get into the nitty gritty of why people use certain terminologies. Tyla refers to herself as coloured because in South Africa coloured people are a mix of black South Africans and other nationalities that are usual white skinned mostly Europeans. So all this beef and long talk isn’t necessary. It is a terminology that they use for saying I’m mixed race or mixed origin etc
Mixed is not a race hunny
@@QueenK88 ok ma’am but you get my point. But two or more races equals one person is that not a mixed race? Please check the definition of race in terms of heritage.
@@kezzy_kezzy And honestly as black South Africans ain't no way we gonna allow her to refer to herself as black coz she's not black we still love her though.
@@QueenK88Tyla has literally explained multiple times that it quite literally *is* a race where she comes from. You guys are choosing to not listen atp.
She spoke the truth, people are easily triggered by honesty especially from a pretty face, basically she must just sing and dance.
As an American, one who moved to Africa. I agree with all this. I have so much to say on this. Maybe I’ll upload a video on my channel about it. But there’s definitely a psychology to the black American hate Tyla gets. & honestly I’m exhausted with it.
I'll be waiting for your video
unfortunately we Black Americans have not been able to articulate this well, but we not feeling Tyla because 1) she said she is not Black yet is being shoved into Black spaces and forced onto us. Case and point, the Breakfast Club situation, and literally winning an Afrobeat award over Black artist and she doesn't even do Afrobeats. 2) She is an industry plant forced by corporations to try to be the face of a musical culture because She is racially ambiguous. She has the Black African culture, or at least part of it, and she has a look that is palatable to white people. I call it the Drake effect, but unlike Drake she does not understand the Black American culture enough to insert herself, nor has she proven his level of logevity. Not to mention Drake has Black American roots i.e. he literally has family members who were Black American artist. 3) Probably the most important to the answer to your question, the thing that Black Americans can sense that we do not like is the antiblackness. Some of us may not be able to articulate in full, simply because they do not understand the history of South Africa, and in particular the Coloured community as a whole. The Coloured community in South Africa as a whole is extremely antiblack. UA-cam it for references if you need to do your research. It is not the whole community, I want to throw that out there. I also wasn't to throw out there that Tyla herself never in particular said anything antiblack to my knowledge, but the energy she exudes lends it self to the "I'm better than you because of my lighter skin". And one would say that this was a trigger from a inferiority complex, until you do the research and realize that the Category of Coloured in South Africa is literally meant to be a step above Black due to lighter skin. Unfortunately, Tyla exudes this because it is literally embedded in the fabric of her culture, and it shows to Black Americans, because if we are good at detecting anything it is detecting White Supremacy and detecting antiblackness. Both white supremacy and antiblackness runs so much deeper then it is ever given credit for to the point where sometimes it seems it's a conspiracy theory. If you ever doubt this, just keep in mind that the only reason vanilla is so associated with white when it is actually brown/black is because it was considered too taste too good to be Black, and let that sink in.
Our inability to break the complexity of something like this down is not just specific to us. you see the same type of unexplained dislike for Americans when abroad. Everyone says Americans exude this sense of entitlement, arrogance, and self-centeredness, and it is because it is embedded in the fabric of our society to the point where it is a part of our identity that we are not even conscious of. So we do something we see as normal it becomes borderline offensive to another person or culture.
So hopefully that helps you and maybe even some Black people who could not quite put their finger on what they were feeling or seeing, better understand.
@@_Lesplay unfortunately we Black Americans have not been able to articulate this well, but we not feeling Tyla because 1) she said she is not Black yet is being shoved into Black spaces and forced onto us. Case and point, the Breakfast Club situation, and literally winning an Afrobeat award over Black artist and she doesn't even do Afrobeats. 2) She is an industry plant forced by corporations to try to be the face of a musical culture because She is racially ambiguous. She has the Black African culture, or at least part of it, and she has a look that is palatable to white people. I call it the Drake effect, but unlike Drake she does not understand the Black American culture enough to insert herself, nor has she proven his level of logevity. Not to mention Drake has Black American roots i.e. he literally has family members who were Black American artist. 3) Probably the most important to the answer to your question, the thing that Black Americans can sense that we do not like is the antiblackness. Some of us may not be able to articulate in full, simply because they do not understand the history of South Africa, and in particular the Coloured community as a whole. The Coloured community in South Africa as a whole is extremely antiblack. UA-cam it for references if you need to do your research. It is not the whole community, I want to throw that out there. I also wasn't to throw out there that Tyla herself never in particular said anything antiblack to my knowledge, but the energy she exudes lends it self to the "I'm better than you because of my lighter skin". And one would say that this was a trigger from a inferiority complex, until you do the research and realize that the Category of Coloured in South Africa is literally meant to be a step above Black due to lighter skin. Unfortunately, Tyla exudes this because it is literally embedded in the fabric of her culture, and it shows to Black Americans, because if we are good at detecting anything it is detecting White Supremacy and detecting antiblackness. Both white supremacy and antiblackness runs so much deeper then it is ever given credit for to the point where sometimes it seems it's a conspiracy theory. If you ever doubt this, just keep in mind that the only reason vanilla is so associated with white when it is actually brown/black is because it was considered too taste too good to be Black, and let that sink in.
Our inability to break the complexity of something like this down is not just specific to us. you see the same type of unexplained dislike for Americans when abroad. Everyone says Americans exude this sense of entitlement, arrogance, and self-centeredness, and it is because it is embedded in the fabric of our society to the point where it is a part of our identity that we are not even conscious of. So we do something we see as normal it becomes borderline offensive to another person or culture.
So hopefully that helps you and maybe even some Black people who could not quite put their finger on what they were feeling or seeing, better understand.
No one is on Tyla's level.They have no one to compare her with especially coming from Africa.Her song writing is not superficial.Its always catchy and has deeper meaning.
Americans hate Tyla because of that coloured thing so now they get annoyed by everything she says or does. They aren't over the fact that she identifies as coloured that's all this is. What she did at the VMAs has been done by other artists and was never an issue.
Her identity is not for sale. they can fk off.
@@stevebootyTHIS!!!! This is something they don't understand. Africans don't sell us. You don't just claim black bc "drops". B!tch, FACK YOU.
Let’s be clear. It’s only some black Americans.
@@LoveVallerie They are angry because she won't allow them to police her identity like they did to Mariah Carey and others.
We don't hate Tyla.
This is why so many are scared of being themselves. Society has a certain expectation of everyone and the moment one breaks ranks with such expectations they get attacked for all the other fake reasons. She doesn't identify with struggles because most people growing in Africa see the struggle as something to overcome. We don't think we are condemned into the struggles by a system. And if we feel that way we look for a way to escape the unfavourable system.
Spot on bro
if you ask me, and I know nobody asked me, but almost ALL the music coming from SA is meaningful. ALL the amapiano I listen to, and I've been listening for some years now, has positive or real messages, much more so than the stuff we hear over here in the United States. This music is so good, I find the lyrics and study isiZulu just so I could know what the artist is saying. Believe me, it's all good . . . and I love isiZulu!!! L
They come to South Africa and enjoy our hospitality, because here race is not a big deal. We deal with an offence and not the race of an offender.🇿🇦
It is y’all literally had whole wars and had the whole world involved not long ago
Xénophobia karma following her
Lol this is going to fly over their heads.
I'm from Atlanta, USA, Georgia and I don't listen to much American music for the past three or four years. Sorry. South African Amapiano had taken over me. I wonder what would happen if they brought Nkozasana Daughter, Kamo Mpela, Lady Amar, Paige and other big South African artists to the American stage? Black Americans, we need to cut this hating out. Please. Let's just enjoy ourselves, our lives, our counterparts on the Continent and leave this girl alone. Please let her live her dream the same way you'd like to live your own dreams. Please. I'm begging. God bless America. God bless South Africa. Ngiyabonga. (That means thank you in isiZulu.) enuf said. L
I still think this is the decline of Tyla. She made a hit song and then subsequently made too many wrong moves. she should have thought this through.🙄
@@pantherasad2114 Music is big in SA, those artist in SA like Tyla they make it in SA alone that international stage is just extra. She can end going there and still make music in SA and win awards and make money. I don't know if u realize that in SA the musicians make money over there she can just come back to SA and still be killing it. U dig.
@@sbusbebe3620 She probably should have just continued to do that instead of signing with Epic-Records in America.
@@pantherasad2114 Don't worry she will be getting more awards in the US and in the international stage then she will come back to SA.🤣🇿🇦
@@sbusbebe3620 Hard to say, first she needs to stop making wrong moves Like That Breakfast Club interview. even her manager knew what could happen.
@@pantherasad2114because you people are dom about our race and ethnicity.
I think i just found myself the first Nigerian person i like in 29 years😂
I'm Ghanaian btw but 29 years?? How😂? Do you mean on UA-cam or in general?
@@_Lesplay in general bro...I'm South African my barber is Ghanaian...you guys are nice people no wonder I liked your videos so quickly...big up to Ghana💯
@@mashabafxacadamythere is no Nigerian that is sickening for your love, or your attention, pig food.
As a nigerian i don't like SA
Non - Americans complain about Back Americans being snobbish, Same difference. She should have brought her assistant on stage to hold her award. They get paid for it. American A list celebrities do not. The American Music Awards has always been the Taylor Swift Show anyway.
She is a youngster and this is how people treat her? you all are pitiful
4:20 It sounds so white because we don’t realize how similar to whites we are. We’ve been under whites in America for a few hundred years.
Very interesting
But she was posing with the award afterwards. So she clearly didnt need anyone to hold her award on stage
The question is why do you have a problem with her asking someone for help?? If Nicki or Halle or Chloe Bailey did that would it be a problem?? It wouldn't.
@@_Lesplay👏👏👏👏👏 exactly.
I honestly think half of it is jealousy.
Americans getting uppety about not understanding South African culture and language is just so ironic.
So did the Americans go to SA or did the S African come to America? There is proper etiquette for coming to someone else's home.
@@michellehubbard8865lol etiquette? Did she not ask? did she not say please? Did she not say thank you? Get a grip Michelle
Your culture is primitive and tribal trash black American culture is world-renowned
@jamessmith-xq9zi don't be ignorant just because Africans are being disrespectful.
@@supreme9801 the lack of etiquette is not about the awards. It's more of a lack of cultural awareness then it is lack of awareness. Personally, I know her backlash is because she is not Black but is being forced into Black spaces and onto the Black community.
Don't lump all Americans in this. I like Tyla and her music!
Yh generalization is a big issue but it's hard not to do it😅😅
Guys it's not Jealousy, we always had beautiful and powerful woman in the industry. It's her attitude and lack of awareness to American culture. She wants to be a star but doesn't have the star hospitality that makes them loved around the world. It has nothing to do with her looks im sure we all prefer someone good looking in these star rolls
You can say you don't like Tyla's attitude but the whole Uppity African thing and saying she needs to act accordingly is just crazy.
What attitude? And how has she demonstrated a lack of awareness of American culture? Do you mind pointing me to an example?
She does if she want to make it in America so she not gone make it acting like she above America this America she better get down or go back
American culture, What is that? Calling each other 'Bitch?' Vulgar lyrics. P Diddy vibes? We watch Judge Judy, And that whose the daddy court stuff. What is your culture?
Tyla IS humble, they are just so tied up in star narratives they can't see it.
Tyla will do it again at the Grammys 🤑🤑🤣🤣
And we will be here🤣🤣
Once she gets to the podium and gets her award she should call either Victoria Monet or Normani up the stage to come and help her by holding the award whilst she gives a speech
No she won’t if she hand tht Grammy for someone else to hold she not getting it back
She's doing way too much
Yoo
How? She actually is not doing too much.
Sorry, but I genuinely have a question, im ignorant i know but pls can someone educate me what is Black American culture?.
I said it am ignorant, i just want to know what it really is, because Black Americans unapologetically say pple copy them but am not really sure what we are copying.
Their way of dressing, their way of talking and slang(cap, aight bet, you got me f*cked up, my bad, finna), their dances, rapping, and even black women's hand gestures when they talk. That's just a few but look everywhere around the world and black american culture is there somehow.
@@_Lesplayoh please Africans have actual culture
@Emmaforo What is "actual" culture? Culture is culture.
@@_Lesplay Hmm I guessed as much what I'm seeing as the Black American culture then is diffused all over the world from Africa, to Asia (in terms of dressing). Language Tyla is not speaking their language and hand gestures, really?
I hear you but the problem with the culture you just said is
1) It is not viewed as something positive across the world.
2) The aspect of dressing, language and swag is that it is EVERYWHERE even white pple dress the same.
Hmmm, It is well.
@@_LesplayI'm gonna be honest with you, you can call it culture but it isn't. Well, at least not in tge essence of being passed down from generation to generation, this is why it changes from generation to generation. It's simply street culture like what we used to do growing. Do you genuinely think those things are taught by parents or uncles? For sure, a few things like soul food, certain music etc is culture bc it's taught by elders. But things like breakdancing, bboy etc is street culture bc no elders teach that. Sure, I can agree your father can teach you how to rap but most of the things you mentioned are learned from the street and change from time to time easily. Culture does change but not easily. So, imo some of it is culture, some of it isn't. Especially talking. "Finna, gonna, etc" isn't culture bc not all black Americans are raised that way. It's simply slang. If you call something culture of an ethnic group then it should be the norm in every family but this isn't. This is street culture regardless of race but it's predominant among black Americans bc they invented it. It's still street culture, not generational culture.
I genuinely think that Africa should just celebrate it's own music and create its own award shows that recognises and popularises music from different parts of the continent. I also think that white people have nothing to do with this. It's an African and African American beef. The average white person couldn't careless about this and rightfully so, it has nothing to do with them. Lets stop pointing fingers at white people as though their the boogie man behind the scenes making sure that Africa is unsuccessful. It's this same kind of mindset that has caused African Americans from doing well in a country where Africans and other immigrants go and succeed.
Yes! I also think thid will give a different prioception to the music culture. Africa market is huge and not very well explored. Because if they don’t get it to Anglo Saxon community, the world don’t know much!
Absolutely. It's high time we as Africans value and feel proud of our assets. We don't need any validation from the West. They'll always suffocate us when we lick their boots
Yes. Talk that Racoon 🦝 talk Sis 😂 so Typical of you !
Don't speak on black Americans mindset because you have NO IDEA WHAT YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT. IT'S BEST YOU REMAIN Quiet. We are the reason your people are even able to migrate To the United States...have you heard of civil rights in America? Don't come over here judging us .
I’m African American and we don’t think African need to be barefoot or whatever the comments was. It’s the the fact that Tyler only has two songs as is getting the praise some one like Tems Ayra Starr or Burna boy should have. And it’s mainly because she not black and her music is more relatable to white ppl. We just don’t feel her as much.
Tyla makes AMAPIANO (a south african genre) with a hint of pop and RnB. How is that more relatable to white people?
If Tems and Burna deserved the award so much why didn’t Nigeria, a country that has a population almost 218M+ people which is like 4 times the population of South Africa, not manage to get one of their artists who infact were a majority of the nominees enough votes???
@@mr.sailii her vibe is more pop is what I’m saying. You’re average white person wouldn’t genuinely understand the vibes of a Ayra Starr or burna boy. And you just said that her style has a hint of hip-hop and R&B some people might be throwing off because they see that influence and she kind of disassociating herself from black culture. Which I understand because she’s not black. But for some it’s off putting. For me her style is a little more pop. Her image is a little more pop and she’s earning awards and status for people that’s been putting in the work way longer than she hasn’t has a catalog way extensive than hers. But because they are black and embrace that they don’t have the same light shed on them.
@@mr.sailii white ppl controls those vote btw you know like I know if it was a even playing field Tyler wouldn’t stand a chance against these afrobeats artist that been killing it’s for years and actually put the African scene on the map fr.
@@destinywilliams8597 Nigerian artists have been the main African artists for years and have been winning awards and getting nominated (You can look them up). It’s currently Tyla’s moment and she just so happened to have arrived when these African categories were introduced to the VMAs and grammies.
I’m African too btw and i’m neither Nigerian or South African. I can legit say that Tyla is a breath of fresh air. Her international appeal is what makes her stand out from her peers.
@@mr.sailii as they should be winning it for years because they are the ones that deserve it. It doesn’t have anything to do with Nigerian artist or not. I’m talking about Afrobeats in general. Those are the artists that stands out and those those are the artist that actually put African music on the scene for real they did ones that really put Africa on the map. Everybody else was sleep. So you put all these people that’s been winning awards for years of begins one little cute song That’s not even her category for real. So focused on Nigerian artist how about you come out with more South African artist and make your own category and when your own rightful award categories
Tyla has gained 100 million streams since the VMA's and has secured 2 headline concerts.
That’s all 100 million streams isn’t a lot so go do the math on how much th makes an artist that many streams only mean gold album your not even platinum
@@KeithEasley-qd9pb She has over 1.5 billion streams in total - And for an African artists that is a lot. This is on her 1st album. She also has Platinum and Gold status already.
Welcome to Black America, Tyla 😂😂😂.
Asem oo😂
Black American women are the only mads 😂 its seems like yall never beating the bitter allegations
@@whateverstaymad8309what?? You don't even make sense.
Im black American, I love Tyla ❤
As an FBA, if I went to an African country seeking commercial success, I’d be very humble in how I’d approach people.
What was arrogant about asking for help with holding an award?
@@_Lesplay It’s probably a combination of the of the trophy incident, the “Colored” perseverance (which is an offensive term in US although apparently not in SA) and general lack of awareness of American sensibilities. She might be a very nice person, however, perception is reality especially in the entertainment industry. If you want to be successful in a certain market, you have to adapt and understand these things or quite frankly you’re just wasting your time. Also, it’s only logical that you’re not going to be successful with people you’re perceived as distancing yourself from…it’s just not going to work. It’s like going on a job interview and acting like you don’t want to be a team player yet expecting to get the job.
@@sherwoodla6535 you seem open-minded enough so I hope you won’t mind me probing a little bit?
The trophy incident seemed not to have been an “incident” in the countless other instances where American women (both black and white) asked for help with holding their trophy. It’s strange that this action only warrants backlash when Tyla does it
Also, on the “coloured perseverance”, Tyla has never actually gone out of her way to reference her race while in the US. The discourse around her race started because people found a TikTok video she made years ago for Heritage Day while she was IN SOUTH AFRICA. She was explaining her ethnicity (Coloured) while actually celebrating her Black African (Zulu) heritage. She only subsequently spoke on her race in response to the backlash she was receiving from Black Americans over her use of the term. She has previously said she acknowledges the negative origins of the word in the US and doesn’t expect anyone to identify her using the word if they’re not comfortable. So she actually has tried to show an understanding of American sensibilities.
I give this context to say that I think it’s something deeper when she hasn’t ACTUALLY done anything. South Africa did not adopt the one drop rule. We love Tyla but fully acknowledge her as a mixed race woman. To me it seems that some Black Americans interpreted her acknowledgement of her mixedness as a rejection of blackness and have been nitpicking her every move as punishment ever since. Is it possible that my assessment is correct?
@@teeraynee Thanks for the compliment, it's genuinely appreciated.
Just a couple of points though:
1- If Tyla were to accidentally wonder onto a SA Farmer's property, would she be dealt with any differently than the SA Blacks who were brutally un-alived by being burned to death or cut up and fed to the pigs as reported recently? I doubt it, so I question whether the "One Drop" rule isn't also practiced in SA.
2- Leading with your mixed-race status to blacks is not going to endear you to them. When Megan Markle visited Nigeria, she wore native Nigerian clothing, put her hair up in a bun and made no mention of her mixed-race status even though in the US and UK she is only referred to as mixed-race (not black) and her phenotype leans HEAVELY white. to the point of presenting white unless you met her black mother.
3-If I visited any African country, including SA, as a "mixed race" FBA (25% northern European which is not unusual here) I would still identify as Balck to show unity #1 with Black Africans and demonstrate that the world sees me as Black not mixed race #2. This is how you win over people of other cultures.
Anyway, at the end of the day, it will be the American court of public opinion that will determine Tyla's success here.
@@sherwoodla6535
1 - While Coloured people were also subjugated under the apartheid regime, their non-Black ancestry meant that they were given a few more rights than fully Black people. The fact that they weren’t 100% Black African meant that they were not relegated to the absolute bottom - so actually the opposite of the one drop rule. There are still remnants of this sentiment amongst White racists today. The boldest among them even proclaim this loudly. They may see Coloured people as inferior to themselves but most of them definitely think Black people are inferior to Coloured people. So that farmer very well could’ve spared a Coloured person. None of this is Tyla’s fault though so it’s a moot point either way.
2 - She never “led with her mixed race status”. The discourse around her race started because people found a video she made in 2020 as a teenager where she was celebrating her heritage for a South African holiday while in South Africa, just like every other South African does on that day. She never referenced her race in the US at any point other than to address the backlash she was receiving for her use of the term in that video. I don’t know where the idea that she was going around demanding to be identified as Coloured and scoffing at being identified as Black comes from. This never happened. You wouldn’t know this, but she’s actually shown herself to be very pro-Black and frequently celebrates her Black African heritage, but still - she is not Black by SA’s definition.
3 - it would be extremely disingenuous of her to outright identify herself as Black to global audiences when she’s never had to navigate life as a fully Black person. She would alienate both Black and Coloured South Africans by going around claiming to be something she’s not. I also highly doubt all Black Americans would have received it well if she outright claimed Blackness, considering your attitudes towards people like Cardi B, Kamala Harris and recently Drake. People would have eventually come across her family pictures and start accusing her of lying and cosplaying. From what I’ve seen on social media, there isn’t actually a consensus among you guys about how mixed race people should identify - so in my opinion, she was damned if she did and damned if she didn’t.
People are obviously free to have their opinions. I just have a problem when the opinions are baseless and seem to be fuelled by prejudice. It’s very possible to dislike the girl and ignore her afterwards, like a normal person. There’s absolutely no need for people to go out of their way to invent narratives to propel a hate train against her when she hasn’t ACTUALLY done anything to warrant it.
Foreigners are so obsessed about South Africans . If it was a South African making this post , I would believe it . Don't worry about Tyla , South Africans don't hate her , worry about artists from your country .
My own is, why was she expecting someone to hold her own award for her?? What does she mean by it’s heavy?
Olivia Rodrigo did the same thing. She gave it to someone to hold. Have you heard any uproar about it? No.
Why?
They want her worship them since they made her what she is today. All of her songs are made for them, not even her people. She doesn't sing Amapiano genre.
Fuck the haters 😎. We Love ❤ u Tyla.
Leslie...I'm angry at you wai where is playboy part 2
I'm dropping it tomorrow wai😂
Why r yall trying to force black americans to like that girl because u like her. We r not Africans. Crazy
No one is forcing anything. The hate is just forced.
@@_Lesplay tell me please what is there to be jealous of about that girl. Everything she's ever done we have seen waaaaaaay better in our culture. We black americans rarely think or speak about an African until we see them on TV acting stuck up. That's when we tell it like we seen it.
We r the blueprint and could never be jealous of an African.
@francestate799 we don't even know who you are😂 we know who tyla is tho. And what blueprint are you talking about lol Africa been the blueprint and origin of culture dating thousands of years not a few decades like how old hip hop or rnb is,,,please dumb as nighas
@_Lesplay Tyla has been absolutely forced onto Black Americans, and we are not feeling her. And it really is not a we don't like Africans thing, because we clearly love Burner Boy, Tems❤, Ayra Stat😍, Akon, Michael Blackson, Patrice Lumumba, the list goes on. We honestly are not feeling Tyla, because she said she is not Black and we withdrew our Black support and we are tired of having her forced in Black spaces. We are going to support our Black artist. The fundamental issue here is 1) Africans deep down don't respect African Americans, which is why you all think you can bully us into accepting the girl 2) Africans do not understand Black unity, she won an award for music she does not even do over actual Black artist that do 3) you all are so desperate to make this girl the representation of your music and she said she not even Black, the snow bunny crisis is real. At the root of these three things: (jealousy/tribalism, inability to unify, chasing after White people) is probably majority of the reason Africa is in the state it is in right now.
@@AngelorVanneel No one denies Africa is the motherland from which all derives. But yall lack of Black unity is absolutely disturbing and shows why the entire Black race globally is in the state it is in. Yall out here defending Tyal behind your stupid pride and trying to prop her up as your African representation and she told yall she not Black. Why would you want her winning an Afrobeats award and she does not do Afrobeats nor is she Black? The girl literally won the award because she is not Black and is racially ambiguous. She beat out actual Black artist when she literally not in the genre of music. Africa is majority Black and you all don't even have the ability to see that they are making the face of Africa i.e. African music non Black. The same way they made the face of North Africa not Black, the same way they try to make the face of East Africa not Black, the same way South Africa made the there Ms. SOUTH AFRICA NOT BLACK. At this point you all are being piss poor and absolutely pathetic. Have some damn pride in yourselves and stop being weak in the knees over non-black people and white supremacy. Africa is were culture comes from but yall stay chasing after other cultures from Arab cultures to European culture. Stand the fuck up and be leaders instead of all the damn internet trolls living in every place but the African country they were born in. Make Africa worth a damn so all Black people can point to at least one Black African country and say "that's a Black Super power".
We ain jealous she had a plan to be there let's see if the plan holds the next 6 years
She still would have lasted longer than a lot of American artists in the past two years who have come and gone.
It’s not anything she did
All she did was be kind and sweet 😂
Damn, even a train. Tf
She reminds me of Amber Rose very confused if Halle Berry knows she's black Kamala Harris know she's black Mariah Carey know she's black you are off point Tyler needs to get herself together you'll need to sit down and talk to this young woman because she's missing the point and you're missing the point by spreading this
Comparing her to your cultural phenomes i see lol. Just over the river there are a lot of things to learn
Kamala isn't Black.
Are you dumb ? Y'all black american are so stupid, I am not even shicked anymore when they try to eliminate y'all.
Y'ALL ARE NOT THE CENTER OF THIS WORLD ! NOT EVERYTHING IS OFFENSIVE AND WE WON'T CHANGE CULTURE FOR Y'ALL SELFISH AND ILLITERATE ASS.
Oh shut up, none of those people you mentioned are black, cry about it.
Mariah is notttttt black regadless having a black father. 😂
Africa have over 3000 languages We dont care about What Americans say
You ate with this one! 💯😂
American don't give a shit about Africa stay there and make music we don't go over there to make music😂🎉😂
Ngl when i heard your accent i thought you were gonna bash Tyla but finally a Nigerian that makes sense
He's Ghanaian oo😂
😂😂😂😂
@@residenthypewoman oh no wonder
@@residenthypewomanto South Africans every black person is a Nigerian.
@@residenthypewomanhe sounds and looks Ghanaian tbf. Yeah Nigerian and Ghanaian accents are similar and can be confusing but when you're around them, it's easy to tell apart. The look tho is so different
What I don't understand is how she got the energy to hold the award to take pictures with it later on that night? But, if it's too much heat over here, there's always room on a plane for her to go back to S. Africa.
Dude, we get you're trying to make a point buh you gotta be careful with making comments
You sound very white😂😂
Bruh bad joke tyla has a lot of white in her
Ah what tf they hating for? 😹💀
I don't even understand
Shes actually easy to hate cause she's cringe
Tyla is so cute... oh my God.
🥰🥰🥰🥰
Lol first off people need to get into the nitty gritty of why people use certain terminologies. Tyla refers to herself as coloured because in South Africa coloured people are a mix of black South Africans and other nationalities that are usual white skinned mostly Europeans. So all this beef and long talk isn’t necessary. It is a terminology that they use for saying I’m mixed race or mixed origin etc
She’s very much misunderstood 😅
First of all I don't lyk her, I don't just lyk her😒
There's so many people we don't like but we just keep going on with our lives, not declaring our dislike for them at every turn. We also don't take time from our day to comment hate on content that has to do with said person. Thanks for coming to MORALS AND VALUES 101
Someone also hates you out there
Hating on a child smh
She’s 22
THEY ARE NOT HATING ON HER
with all due respect .... as Tyla enters a space that African Americans built, it would be wise to become more culturally competent and better understand the etiquette and history of our culture. Her initial lack of response to the colored question on the Breakfast Club was off putting to most Black Americans unaware of South African culture (which is the majority of that audience). Most people didn't read the written statement that followed that interview. Words mean things, and its important to put things in context when you're a public figure. For many Black Americans, this is just the cherry on top of the decades of West, East and Southern Africans entering America with a mentality of superiority embedded in them by their colonizers ..... we're over it. Approach this culture we built with some respect and humility or you can go. Sorry not sorry
None of that humbling is going to happen i promise you. we will not kiss your ass. We don't owe you anything.
Yall would have nitpicked her explanation and found something negative just like you are doing with the VMAs situation. It’s ok you don’t like her for whatever reason. I am sure there plenty who like her. Let’s all move on
@@stevebooty Then your going back home. I promise you, you immigrants will not prosper. The white ppl are already done with you.
Lil Nas X isnt a nobody. If one of our celebs was at an event in another country and did this it wouldnt look good. Yall would of dragged us,
Well you are right. That’s why i think these arguments are great because it’s by clashing with each other that we would be able to put ourselves in the other person shoes and maybe one day nobody will need to be dragged because we would all finally understand that no side is superior to the other
She asked for help!! She said please, thank you, sorry. It's actually HUMAN to ask for help if you need it. Femininity must only be reserved for Americans, I guess.
@@denzelkamsu I agree! That's why the situation wasn't a big deal until Tyla than said stfu i just won a vma when met with said criticism/arguments.
@@brittanychavers443 as she should cause yall are weird
@@shandapuhhuh I totally agree but she didn't meet him halfway or go up and look him in the eye when she asked. Like yeah you here! It was just bad form and then she doubled down saying we cant tell her shit. Well now i cant listen to you until you act like you have some sense and understand how it couldve came of crazy. APOLOGIZING IS FREEEEEE.
Now the Nigerians are joining our fight. Welcome brothers. Leason number 1: Be proud of your language. Leason Number 2: Fight for your country. Leason Number 3. Fight for your people no matter if they are white or black, Igbo or Yoruba. Leason Number 4: Don't kiss behinds for anyone big or small. This fight is about Africans and their place in the world; no one should disrespect us. We are proud Africans if they think we are animals. Then we will give them sleepless nights.
What fight?!😢
it has nothing to do with African pride and everything to do with a lack of respect for the space Black Americans build ... but I digress. Tired of the product of colonization keeping us in debate over the same topics.
I'm not even Nigerian but this comment is cap. Nigerians were one of the first people to branch to America in Africa and the whole time they were unapologetically themselves, they spoke pidgin, did numbers with songs in pidgin, sold out concerts and celebrated by AA. The difference is that most of them were already established artists with already big fan bases before branching out of the continent so their popularity was very organic. So when burna boy said why is my name so small on the flier, he had earned the right to have his name blown out cuz he had already proved himself, his artistry and his talent. Lil miss thing however is an upcoming artist coming with a new genre trying to be successful in a competitive market with a sound most are not used do. The least she can do is learn, read the room and understand her target audience. But people would rather just choke it up to hatin and hyping her up making her head swell even more before she has built a stable fan base.
He is Ghanaian
@@sportsnumber1567 lol
Black Americans are not Africans, we africans don't define ourselves as black buh rather by our culture , ethnicity, tribe ect not race like u black Americans as u call your selves, tylar will forever be African and we Africans will forever support her ❤. Cos we Africans don't define ourselves as black people buh rather Africans regardless of our skin tone
We are African and we see what’s going on. The attention Tyler is getting off one song is the praise someone like Tems Ayra Starr or burna boy should get. N it’s mainly because she’s not black and her music is more relatable to white ppl.
@destinywilliams8597 she does pop and sprinkle little Amapiano
What black Americans are saying is we fought for Africans artist to have a spot light out in them so they can shine here….
That's not what they are saying though.
for real I don't get it come on now Guys
what the conversation should be about Is how they're giving the whole of Africa one type of music style and want us to be greatful for the so call "Award"
Listern......
She probably didn't want the award because it's not her's since she doesn't do Afrobeat music that's actually what she was trying to say nicely in her speech and trust me she wasn't thinking of all that u guys are saying or where ever you're taking the conversation to
As an African (🇬🇭) we all know what was happening 😅😅
She was thinking of the West Africa And South Africa war ( Ama piano Vs Afrobeat) over our music which actually has nothing to do with America at all
The way America treat our Art coming from Africa always seems very insulting & degrading to Us so No!!! I don't think She Tyla, would then turn around and be rude or disrespectful to someone especially on stage at that very moment when she's trying to make a point people lets relax and love each other 🙏
I have to make another video about that particular issue but I don't see it changing anytime soon
She doesn't deserve that VMA awards
Because of what?
Then work and go merit yours.😅 Una too do
Tems and Burna Boy did but WA will make her denounce Africa soon to be successful she will do it GET READY SA!!!!
@henryking6894 those who give out the award says she does, your opinion doesn't add anything 🙄
@@marthashepherd935Tems can't even sing...what re you talking about...she is always of tune😂go cry a river
Mr video maker you're not the only one who make hate UA-cam videos, after all why Tyla of all people
What does this mean
@@_Lesplay man I'm even shocked by that question.
😂😂😂if you hate her,askies Im sorry.You gonna be strong
Trevor Noah is coloured
Correction: biracial
Nah he is biracial so was AKA but Tyla and Randal (From SA idols) are coloured.
1:06 😭😭😭😭😭😭
I agree 100 times with that last sentence of that comment.........
you are speaking from your perspective maybe people see things you don't free speech bro
And that's completely fine.
Black Americans are jealous and mean cos Tyla doesn't share there perspective and she's unapologetically SA. Not pretending to be from the US. An amazing trailblazer in ballet passed away today, Michaela DePrince, she should be trending but they would rather hate. BA and America itself is the center of the universe. They like to dominate everything and whatever they say is gospel.
@@dazedconfuseds I think it has to do with colorism. many have had experiences with light skins that think they are better than their dark skinned peers. on top of a culture that gives more privilege to light skins. she also not only light skinned but very pretty
@@maryanne2025 I agree
Love ur work
Thank you!!
He is very good and intelligent
I think shes a horrible person. I dont know why but i can sense it lol. Btw im not American so dont start with that
Me too.. I dont know its something about her demeanor... I'm south african.. I see through her like glass
It’s just funny cause no one can seem to explain why they don’t like her they just don’t. All fair. Just don’t listen lol 🤷🏿♂️
@@somindlesssmedia really.. U didn't notice her attitude? Like she owns the universe or some ish
@@GovanBassonTotalkaosMotion no I really didn’t lol I’ve watched interviews I’ve watched this moment and more she really doesn’t give that to me. She seems sweet bubbly and confident and never arrogant or big headed. Especially comparing her to a lot of these female rappers in the states she’s very humble to me
@@somindlesssmedia where are u from.. Maybe u don't understand her mannerisms because u not from the same place... Her vibe is super the opposite of what u just said. Weird..and many people are feeling the same vibe as i... So i know im right
She is so full of herself
We are all like that. U just have to get used to us. Proudly SAn. No fear no favour
You're clearly empty of yourself
jealous old bitch, please log off from the internet 😂you're old 😂😂
first off, she is too confident especially when Drake started following her, a cocky attitude there...and other situations too...i noticed that but let it go then as time went along her whole personality seemed to follow that "uppity" demeanor...i love her but she needs to be way more humble IMO...
What is "too confident"? There is a white female star right now who speaks her mind way more than Tyla. I've forgotten her name but everyone calls her "real". So why is Tyla too confident??
Weren't you guys telling her to be careful of the industry? For months, all the comments were about how she should preserve herself.
You are all having weird reasons to dislike her and it's... Nasty.
@@_Lesplay that's because she African they are doing that to her. They keep quiet when whites do it.
Africans cannot be confident? You want her to sound begging😂
Do you know the date when Drake followed her? Yall say anything. If you look up Tyla’s interviews from 2021 in South Africa, she was just as real as she is now.
Hatred must not be hidden behind American culture. We know their pure rich culture because it was never hidden under the carpet. Not the one we are witnessing now, contaminated by hatred and malice. Tyla copied everything from them. This confident and self believing is from black Americans. We Tyla emulate their culture they call arrogant. We did not call it arrogant when they performed and displayed their culture. Tyla copied everything about them, their style and confident and they cry. How do you achieve anything without self believe and self confident. That is why they became successful. Why now this inferiority complex, feeling threatened by everybody, including Tyla. COME ON😊
South Africa is the weakest link in Africa, through South Africa the colonizers lay claim on some part of our African ancestral land. Tyla is a South African, they're using her insidiously as an industry plant to anger Black Americans, and also trying to belittle the work of top Nigerian artist' who are right now almost making Nigeria the dominant force in the music industry.
Tyla is another weak link. Some artist have several hit songs that has gone global, they don't win awards, but someone with one hit song is getting the awards, yeah! Don't come to me with some excuses about criteria that they use in making judgements because that's a lame excuse and total BS!
You sound dumb 😂
@@ritaaura3505Evil hate or jealous it won't take anywhere.
God punish hate's.
how
What a stupid long shitty comment...😂
You sound so dumb 😂.
Isn't it Americans who are giving her those awards and the spotlight.
Tyla was never even that big in South Africa prior to the water song.
If you have anyone to blame, blame yourselves. You are the ones who gave an Afrobeats award to an amapiano artist.
You are the weakest link. You keep on promoting and giving praise to people who look like Tyla and get surprised when nothing changes. You gave people like Ice Spice spotlight and wonder why darker skinned tone people aren't succeeding.
YOU ARE THE WEAKEST LINK
The truth is we need a new flock. Hollywood is getting older and new generation is needed to merge. The world for the Young Beautiful a Powerful. The old would fight go stay in place. We are looking at a new rihanna, a new beyonce. There’s only 1 number 1 then the hall of fame, people that are only remember to say they were number 1, but actual nobody really pay much attention anymore. I love me some tyla! ❤❤❤
Tell Nigerian in sa
Amapiano will have to wait 30 years to be recognized. Accept it as afrobeats or reject the award.
Ai toggie!! The Americans on it again 🙄. When will they learn to take a chill pill about our STAR GAL TYLA 💃💯💪❤️👌
Lol
🇿🇦 This flag is use to it...
Yanks need to relax.
Yanks? ...... i fear the diaspora conflicts will never end smdh
@@journey2jae you need to take a chill pill
I hope you remember all this when it comes to reparations
How does reparations fit into this?
Ignorance is nice!!!
Do some research
@@christinelomax3903what’s does reparations have to do with this convo? Yall are weird
@@younggold1416 they useless
In America there is nothing extraordinary about Tyla's looks or talent. Americans just don't like arrogance.
Americans don't like arrogance but Nicki Minaj and Cardi B are superstars??
Please
@@_Lesplay The ‘Colored” self identification appears to be a blatant attempt to distance herself from the Blacks she wants to market herself to. Yes, that’s unacceptable arrogance! She should go market herself to other coloreds and whites then as those appear to be her people.
Attitude is everything.
For example, white entertainers attempt to market themselves to blacks , they typically approach with a respectful and humble attitude, e.g,. George Michael, Tina Marie, etc.
Blatant attempt to distance herself form black people?? Even after it has been explained that colored has a different meaning in South Africa?? Why would she collaborate with Travis Scott if she wanted to do that??
You're just refusing to understand stand someone else's culture and want her to bow down to yours. Sounds very white to me.
@@_LesplayWe’ll see how her culture and attitude of colored plays out in the US $-wise and who actually identifies with it. LOL
@sherwoodla6535 She'll be fine. Stars blow up and go down in American all the time. Even the 'humble' ones. It's nothing new.
You r right. On point analysis.
0:59 😂😂😂
Lesplay am here ooo🎉🎉❤❤
Yoooo🔥🔥🔥
2:37 facts 🤝😂😂😂
Lesplay look at how that African walked up on stage that is out of character with black American culture. we greet each other with a specific handshake most black women when Greet each other with a hug please try to learn African-American culture if you want to sing here. Please go back and look at how she walked on stage and approach those black people.
Do you guys have to act white to be in their spaces? Does that not sound wrong to you? Is that not a thing you guys complain about??
@@_Lesplay lesplay try to stay on topic when you’re talking I am not talking about white American culture!!!!! I am talking about (black American culture.) I am speaking on how we greet one another the hugs the handshakes. White people know how to greet Black people with respect.🤷🏿♂️go back to look Tyla as she approaches the Black people on stage disgusting despicable. learn our culture or either sing to your own people. It’s not that big of a deal.
@cheesebeef4902 That is exactly what white people say. Learn to act like us if you want to do business with us. That's crazy. She's South African and she acts like it and that's fine.
Sing to your own people lol. When Kendrick goes to Rwanda does he have to act like them to take their ticket money?
@@_Lesplay lesplay I will say one more thing and I will let it go. Yes we have to act white if we African-Americans are going to
singing country music Beyoncé country music sounds different than her R&B yes, Darius rukus music has to sound white!!! stay in your lane !!the best thing you can do for yourself is stop talking about white people!! “there is no way that white people could have taken us from the continent of Africa alone🤫 stop talking you talk too much!!!
@cheesebeef4902 you need a therapist lol why you hatin for no reason
How old is Tyla? She seems immature and self-centred.
Would you have said this about young Rihanna??
@@_Lesplaycan you reply to the question? No one mentioned Rihanna. Anyways; she’s 22. I believe.
She's a normal young lady .
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wanted 2 to like her but she comes across as fake and obv industry plant
She gotta be Humble, that's all
Explain 'humble' to me. Is Ice Spice humble? Or is it different for her?
How can she be humble in the least humble country in the world, usa
@@_Lesplay They mean she has to bow down, kiss dem batty & pretend that Americans invented music & everything black. It’s just pure stupidity, ignorance & jealousy. They’re soo annoying 🙄.
Why do you and I mean specifically you have a problem with her personality?
Ya do need to act accordingly
You do sound very white
Love Tyla she is good and God is due it for her it is what it is 😂
See loads of comments 😂
Wow I didn't even realise how many they were😂😂
The girl dey bore be she be too someway
Ei someway how?
@@_Lesplay she's pretentious
@@fasho387oga shift abeg
@@chiemeniteokoye-john6685 have you ever seen beyonce, rihanna or nicki minaj acting like they cant carry an award? i have no problem with her but she's doing too much
@@fasho387 me I feel like shes getting scrutinized for something so petty. She asked someone to help her carry her award Ehen and so what. You were comparing her to Beyoncé and Rihanna, tyla is her own person she can do whatever she wants 🤷🏾♀️
She is soooo dope on mute 🔥
keep crying sore losers
Coloured! It's a like saying after white there is us then black??
JEALOUSY 😂
First here 🎉❤❤❤❤❤
She’s annoying.. y’all will tell her the true someday.. That “Grammy” got into her head .. before the Grammy she carried herself well..
You know her ?
This is crazy
@@sawlty-suite5131they jealous
@@sawlty-suite5131Do you?
Maybe I just don’t like her music, I guess that makes me a hater then 😂
We love you Tyla
They just hate her because she is not destitute and comes from poverty. We are Uppity Africans💕💅deal with it😂😂.
Stay breathing through wounds 😂😂
@@Lulu-wv1nt go defecate openly you used to it toilet brain