Lucina already gets Atk/Spd+6 on her Assist tho, so having Alarm Def/Res fully powers her Treachery. I think an extra 12 damage beats out to a +3 Atk/Spd boost from Alarm AS
There are already a few sources of that in the game already. I personally like when they actually try to round out the stat combination of skill lines instead of always giving out the same ones (I don't know how we still don't have atk/def oath)
I just like that IS essentially gave people a free Gatekeeper. This warp bubble is by no means as easy to trigger as Gatekeepers, but I'd like to remind people that you don't actually need to go into combat to actually use it. I see a lot of people talk about that especially since eventually the damage will fall-off just like it did to Reginn, just like it did to Thorr, just like it did a lot of other mythic nukes. You can still just break a structure and canto out, or repo/swap forward a unit and still give them that anti warp grass effect. We all know people hate touching grass so it's understandable why it stops warping. But what's important for future proofing her is to remember you don't have to actually initiate into combat to benefit from her terrain effect. Which I'm pointing out cause Fehology is simply seeing her as just a hit and run unit which isn't always going to be the case cause eventually her damage will fall off as we see stronger and stronger saves. Like Spiral 4 Ninja Zelgius who a lot of the most tryhard of players do run. Another benefit is it stops enemies from warping out which is something Gatekeeper can't actually do. He prevents warping in we all know that but you can still warp out. Overall really happy with this unit. I'll probably run her alongside my +10 Gatekeeper just because it's funny.
“We all know people hate touching grass so it’s understand why it stops warping” 🤣🤣🤣🤣 This is all well said. Unique support capabilities really increase longevity, and I think she’ll be good in AR for a long time. I’d like to see some SD concepts, but I’m sure we’ll get a chance for that in about a week.
@@ThermalVoid Yes you can just end turn, but then you are really limiting it's range. 2 spaces isn't much without the canto domain expansion. Especially for a support effect. Try to always find something to do whenever possible. That being said, if you're running double saves, or even just a far save and made her a Frontline tank then yeah, just ending turn is enough. You don't need to think as many a number of steps ahead with saves.
@@BocchiTheBox I see it now. It may be feasible versus the AI, but in SD it's very likely they'll find a way to circumvent the grass even without Pass. 🤔 Although being possible to entrap them, be it in AR or SD, is something unique and very likely to provide great value for the team. 🪤
Ratatoskr seems very, very flexible as a unit, I can see her slotting into galeforce teams easily enough if you replace her C skill, and speaking of that C skill I thought I was reading a weapon description when I saw it in the Feh channel before I realized there was more incoming.
Ash might have been a Tier 1 at the time of release since her C effect at the time was pretty unique and she was also able to hard counter F!Edelgard who was a massive menace at the time.
I forgot about the F!Edel matchup. Awww.. memories. I had a much harder time using her when she came out than I thought I would. I think it’s just the fact that she’s infantry. Flier guidance is insanely powerful.
The part at the end really shows that I fucked up a bit in the past in terms of mythics. I should probably work on my merge levels but obviously orbs are limited. Between summoning for skill fodder and one off legendaries for arena score I think I've neglected that a little.
I'd love to merge up the new mythic but... We got Vayle recently. Just feels really weird they skipped a free Light mythic for this year. Might have summoned if she was light.
Light season is doomed at this point. Dark continues to get stronger (I genuinely think that every Dark season mythic is usable except Sothis lol) while Light flounders. Ratatoskr really wouldn't have helped Light tbh. We need a unit like Freyr who offers protection from units like Embla and Yune instead of another offense focused mythic like Ullr, Nerþuz and Freyja (even though Freyja got better and I think is better than Nerþuz).
@@superpokefan9567so far nerthux is still better mainly due to special accelartion gravity and alot of stats. Light mythic are at the moment a tad weaker then the dark ones
I have ash as my merged up extra slot light mythic and it's pretty suffering. I guess askr would have been better but I cant keep committing to every new unit because they take so long to merge up. So the suffering continues.
IS making sure their new melee mythic unit doesn't synergize with galeforce. What is this conditon on allies HP... And post combat healing on top of that :/ Don't get me wrong she's totally usable but it's annoying not using a character at their full potential. They really want you to use her for hit and run and to prevent hard to predict warping shenanigans.
I’ll be looking forward to the Astra Mythic tier list update as it helps put things into perspective now that I might start merging Mythics for scoring (finished my long time FEH project of completing the Herodex).
Having my plumeria not take up a slot on my offense team means she is still top tier in my book. I can use another dancer sure, but how do I make that work with scoring? It takes some consideration.
I think you're really overselling the ease of getting special acceleration. Yes pledge exists but it's locked to a very powerful 8% unit, and as a buff effect it's really only Hinoka and Nah. It's pretty hard to get, imo.
You’re right, and I should’ve specified. I think for infantry units it’s fairly easy to get because they can use the flashing blade seal. I had a specific Anna build in my head. For cavs and fliers, it’s much, much harder. I’m expecting that to change just because of the stuff we’ve been getting recently, but that’s just a guess.
You can't inherit it yet... Eventually some characters will have over 10, 15 different alts. I won't be surprised if they create character-locked skill inheritance.
@@bagu2769 See…I think so too, but with how gacha games and powercreep works, it doesn’t make sense too. Why pull for N! Zelgius when BK already has Lightless Luna?
I’d put Ratatta in Tier 2. She doesn’t synergize with GF at all. her antiwarp is largely worse than GK. She will only be good as long as she can be a solid nuke. Her support seems mid at best. Basically no matter the AR-O strat I’d rather have seidr+plum+one of veyle/heidr/reginn
Wait... can the rat not have flared sparrow? If she can go in to hit, drop divine flames, then canto 2 away and drop divine salad... then you can't warp through to her or move in easily O_O
The game did reach a point where some older heroes kept beating most of the newer ones, so this year the power creep went insane to give the new ones more value. Which includes the new OC. The game also reached the point for me where it becomes too much of everything, i don't really get it anymore. I was decent at keeping up with skills/weapons but no longer since this year
Did yall notice that when Lucinas skills were displayed, the skill icon for Spd/Def Snag 4 was Spd/Res Snag 4 instead? (cuz it was Green/Blue instead of Green/Yellow what it shoud be) I think they messed up
joel. everytime i see your omnitank tierlist i am sad. not about severa. i agree shes on top. but just about everything else i cry a little bit looking at it
I'm very in doubt if I'll pull for the new mythic or not. Hope the banner lasts a lot so I can decide until then. Ratatoskr definitely looks very good and cav units can have utility with the recent Snag skills and Canto
She looks like a good unit but I already have two Astra mythics at +8... I'll have to skip on merging her only because IS decided to not make her a Light mythic. At least I can save orbs?
@@FEH Seidr and Plumeria because they're both awesome and because they were on 4 person banners, Plumeria especially thanks to her being on a hero fest and I'll try to +10 her the next time she appears on a remix banner on March.
Favorite new book hero, eh ? Not Fjorm, she is too serious. Not Peony, she is too cutesy. Not Seidr, she is too ugly. Ratatoskr is too early to say so. So either Reginn, Eir or Ash. They all have great designs, cool personalities, and a somewhat interesting story arc. Ash and Eir having original movement types and cool gimmicks (warp and healing) put them above Reginn. Ash rocks that bass, so I going to chose her over Eir. Close one though...
You guys really think Ratosk is that good? Divine green is great, but even her weapon seems middle of the road, and notice great mythics like veyel have benefits for other units. I’d think more tier 2 with this, due to neutralizing ARD WoM strats
I'm surprised you have Plumeria in Tier 1. I don't think Hexblade and a Guaranteed Follow up are enough to put her that high up, especially over Elimine.
Role compression. She's a solid enough dancer that also helps you score. Being completely honest, I think she's more valuble than Ratatouille and maybe Veyle, but I can understand why people would put her lower.
She's tier 1 because dancers are some of the mythics that benefit the most from merges since they can fit in many teams. Not every team wants Elimine so she doesn't benefit everyone as much if she's at +10, and she's a prime example for this since Freyr made her way less useful, so those merges are even less valuable on her. Not every team wants Reginn, Seidr, Heidr or other easy to merge mythics. But Plumeria? She's a dancer, and almost any team benefits from having at least one dancer, so if you have her at +10 she's going to bring you so much more value than other mythics, especially as giving an extra action has aged so well since the beginning of the game and is unlikely to become useless in the future. So yeah, that's why she and the other fairies rank so high even if their additional effects aren't that great compared to newer dancers.
There's no way I'm merging up another astra mythic 😂 I have too many already since they've often had great shares when I had big savings. They haven't always aged well though, and i often have to fudge in Elimine/Plumeria/Veyle even though it hurts my score
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Lucina already gets Atk/Spd+6 on her Assist tho, so having Alarm Def/Res fully powers her Treachery. I think an extra 12 damage beats out to a +3 Atk/Spd boost from Alarm AS
As a unit yes, in terms of fodder, a/s would have been much nicer.
There are already a few sources of that in the game already. I personally like when they actually try to round out the stat combination of skill lines instead of always giving out the same ones (I don't know how we still don't have atk/def oath)
You’re not wrong. It’s not a bad c skill at all for her as a unit. As a fodder factory, it’s just ok.
@@FEH You talk as if you were to use her to give birth continuously. 😅
I just like that IS essentially gave people a free Gatekeeper. This warp bubble is by no means as easy to trigger as Gatekeepers, but I'd like to remind people that you don't actually need to go into combat to actually use it.
I see a lot of people talk about that especially since eventually the damage will fall-off just like it did to Reginn, just like it did to Thorr, just like it did a lot of other mythic nukes. You can still just break a structure and canto out, or repo/swap forward a unit and still give them that anti warp grass effect. We all know people hate touching grass so it's understandable why it stops warping.
But what's important for future proofing her is to remember you don't have to actually initiate into combat to benefit from her terrain effect. Which I'm pointing out cause Fehology is simply seeing her as just a hit and run unit which isn't always going to be the case cause eventually her damage will fall off as we see stronger and stronger saves. Like Spiral 4 Ninja Zelgius who a lot of the most tryhard of players do run.
Another benefit is it stops enemies from warping out which is something Gatekeeper can't actually do. He prevents warping in we all know that but you can still warp out.
Overall really happy with this unit. I'll probably run her alongside my +10 Gatekeeper just because it's funny.
“We all know people hate touching grass so it’s understand why it stops warping” 🤣🤣🤣🤣
This is all well said. Unique support capabilities really increase longevity, and I think she’ll be good in AR for a long time. I’d like to see some SD concepts, but I’m sure we’ll get a chance for that in about a week.
Doesn't her vein works like B!Corrin's? You just need to tap to "wait" then she will apply the field effect without even moving. 🤔
@@ThermalVoid Yes you can just end turn, but then you are really limiting it's range. 2 spaces isn't much without the canto domain expansion. Especially for a support effect. Try to always find something to do whenever possible. That being said, if you're running double saves, or even just a far save and made her a Frontline tank then yeah, just ending turn is enough. You don't need to think as many a number of steps ahead with saves.
@@BocchiTheBox I see it now.
It may be feasible versus the AI, but in SD it's very likely they'll find a way to circumvent the grass even without Pass. 🤔
Although being possible to entrap them, be it in AR or SD, is something unique and very likely to provide great value for the team. 🪤
Ratatoskr seems very, very flexible as a unit, I can see her slotting into galeforce teams easily enough if you replace her C skill, and speaking of that C skill I thought I was reading a weapon description when I saw it in the Feh channel before I realized there was more incoming.
29:05 Eir has been erased from history 😔
Talk about a brain fart. I love Eir! I swear!!!
Ash might have been a Tier 1 at the time of release since her C effect at the time was pretty unique and she was also able to hard counter F!Edelgard who was a massive menace at the time.
I forgot about the F!Edel matchup. Awww.. memories.
I had a much harder time using her when she came out than I thought I would. I think it’s just the fact that she’s infantry. Flier guidance is insanely powerful.
The part at the end really shows that I fucked up a bit in the past in terms of mythics. I should probably work on my merge levels but obviously orbs are limited. Between summoning for skill fodder and one off legendaries for arena score I think I've neglected that a little.
Just remember to play the way that you have fun. If that’s new powerful skills and one off legendaries, go destroy things!!
I'd love to merge up the new mythic but... We got Vayle recently. Just feels really weird they skipped a free Light mythic for this year. Might have summoned if she was light.
Light season is doomed at this point. Dark continues to get stronger (I genuinely think that every Dark season mythic is usable except Sothis lol) while Light flounders. Ratatoskr really wouldn't have helped Light tbh. We need a unit like Freyr who offers protection from units like Embla and Yune instead of another offense focused mythic like Ullr, Nerþuz and Freyja (even though Freyja got better and I think is better than Nerþuz).
@@superpokefan9567so far nerthux is still better mainly due to special accelartion gravity and alot of stats. Light mythic are at the moment a tad weaker then the dark ones
I have ash as my merged up extra slot light mythic and it's pretty suffering. I guess askr would have been better but I cant keep committing to every new unit because they take so long to merge up. So the suffering continues.
@@Hapsby Even Askr suffers from all the power running around Dark season and in general so don't feel like you're missing much.
I’m still not sure why they skipped light. Maybe they have some nefarious plan?
IS making sure their new melee mythic unit doesn't synergize with galeforce. What is this conditon on allies HP... And post combat healing on top of that :/ Don't get me wrong she's totally usable but it's annoying not using a character at their full potential.
They really want you to use her for hit and run and to prevent hard to predict warping shenanigans.
I don’t know what’s with that healing. I’m not even sure what strategy that helps.
I’ll be looking forward to the Astra Mythic tier list update as it helps put things into perspective now that I might start merging Mythics for scoring (finished my long time FEH project of completing the Herodex).
Having my plumeria not take up a slot on my offense team means she is still top tier in my book. I can use another dancer sure, but how do I make that work with scoring? It takes some consideration.
Fjorm may be hard to use, but mine's about to get the glow-up of a lifetime with Buffer 4!
I have waited 6 years for this.
I think you're really overselling the ease of getting special acceleration. Yes pledge exists but it's locked to a very powerful 8% unit, and as a buff effect it's really only Hinoka and Nah. It's pretty hard to get, imo.
You’re right, and I should’ve specified. I think for infantry units it’s fairly easy to get because they can use the flashing blade seal. I had a specific Anna build in my head. For cavs and fliers, it’s much, much harder. I’m expecting that to change just because of the stuff we’ve been getting recently, but that’s just a guess.
It really sucks that Future Sight can’t be given to L! Lucina. The same with the better Black Luna :(
I miss when they would do this in the past. Eliwood was so much fun after Roy’s refine.
You can't inherit it yet... Eventually some characters will have over 10, 15 different alts. I won't be surprised if they create character-locked skill inheritance.
@@bagu2769 See…I think so too, but with how gacha games and powercreep works, it doesn’t make sense too. Why pull for N! Zelgius when BK already has Lightless Luna?
I’d put Ratatta in Tier 2. She doesn’t synergize with GF at all. her antiwarp is largely worse than GK. She will only be good as long as she can be a solid nuke. Her support seems mid at best. Basically no matter the AR-O strat I’d rather have seidr+plum+one of veyle/heidr/reginn
Wait... can the rat not have flared sparrow? If she can go in to hit, drop divine flames, then canto 2 away and drop divine salad... then you can't warp through to her or move in easily O_O
Joel! They specifically told you how to pronounce Lucina’s weapon name!
🤦🏼♂️ I can’t believe I forgot. 😭
Arcane THrima, not Prima. The letter Thorn "Þ" is like a "th" sound, not "p".
You don’t understand. My discord pinged me to specifically give me the correct pronunciation.
I STILL FORGOT!!!! I might be hopeless.
@@FEH Oh no! Well, maybe getting nagged at like this will etch it into your memory. (⌒_⌒;)
I love using Gatekeeper because he can stall the enemy so I can collect pots. I just give him Fort. Def/Res 3 in place of Close Reversal.
The game did reach a point where some older heroes kept beating most of the newer ones, so this year the power creep went insane to give the new ones more value. Which includes the new OC.
The game also reached the point for me where it becomes too much of everything, i don't really get it anymore. I was decent at keeping up with skills/weapons but no longer since this year
Yeah was strange the got a free Astra mythic, since (I think) there are only 10 light mythics and now 12 Astra mythics 🥴
Did yall notice that when Lucinas skills were displayed, the skill icon for Spd/Def Snag 4 was Spd/Res Snag 4 instead? (cuz it was Green/Blue instead of Green/Yellow what it shoud be) I think they messed up
I saw that! Can you believe they’ve trained us to look for those tiny colors like that? 🤣
How can I buy FEH Pass, while in my country I can't buy this item😭
joel. everytime i see your omnitank tierlist i am sad. not about severa. i agree shes on top. but just about everything else i cry a little bit looking at it
Next time I update it, I’ll bring it into the aether raids chat and we’ll destroy it together.
Do you have a video going over all the main/ basic terms like omni
20:00 Where is Attuned Triandra.
At least niime has a refine around the corner (even if its still far), but poor laurent is stuck with a deer or a vulture for a long while 😢
They need to fix this. Essentially he has one of the worst PRFs in the game.
I'm very in doubt if I'll pull for the new mythic or not. Hope the banner lasts a lot so I can decide until then. Ratatoskr definitely looks very good and cav units can have utility with the recent Snag skills and Canto
20:00 Where is Ginnu.
Eir goes in even in Chaos. Disarm trap and healing - also can nuke to an extent ;)
0:04 With them all lined up it took a second to figure out which one was the new one they all look the same
IS has a type 🤣
She looks like a good unit but I already have two Astra mythics at +8...
I'll have to skip on merging her only because IS decided to not make her a Light mythic. At least I can save orbs?
Saving orbs is always great! What astra mythics do you have merged up?
@@FEH Seidr and Plumeria because they're both awesome and because they were on 4 person banners, Plumeria especially thanks to her being on a hero fest and I'll try to +10 her the next time she appears on a remix banner on March.
This axe is scion larceis axe but better 😭 have to pull on this banner now
Since she’s green, your odds will be better. May RNGesus bless you!
Alfred has been deleted from the fooder factory....
I couldn’t fit everyone, so I had to put the sign that says it’s just a sample 😭
@@FEH my poor alfed 😭😭
Favorite new book hero, eh ?
Not Fjorm, she is too serious. Not Peony, she is too cutesy. Not Seidr, she is too ugly. Ratatoskr is too early to say so.
So either Reginn, Eir or Ash. They all have great designs, cool personalities, and a somewhat interesting story arc.
Ash and Eir having original movement types and cool gimmicks (warp and healing) put them above Reginn.
Ash rocks that bass, so I going to chose her over Eir. Close one though...
Poor Eir, completely forgotten as a new book hero :(((
…. OH NO!!!! I can’t believe I forgot Eir! I love Eir 😭
You guys really think Ratosk is that good? Divine green is great, but even her weapon seems middle of the road, and notice great mythics like veyel have benefits for other units. I’d think more tier 2 with this, due to neutralizing ARD WoM strats
I'm surprised you have Plumeria in Tier 1. I don't think Hexblade and a Guaranteed Follow up are enough to put her that high up, especially over Elimine.
Yeah but dancer
@@illialidur8244 You could field a better dancer, like Rearmed Plumeria
Role compression. She's a solid enough dancer that also helps you score. Being completely honest, I think she's more valuble than Ratatouille and maybe Veyle, but I can understand why people would put her lower.
@@Iuckie More valuable than Veyle and Ratatoskr? That must've been a big pill to swallow
She's tier 1 because dancers are some of the mythics that benefit the most from merges since they can fit in many teams.
Not every team wants Elimine so she doesn't benefit everyone as much if she's at +10, and she's a prime example for this since Freyr made her way less useful, so those merges are even less valuable on her.
Not every team wants Reginn, Seidr, Heidr or other easy to merge mythics.
But Plumeria? She's a dancer, and almost any team benefits from having at least one dancer, so if you have her at +10 she's going to bring you so much more value than other mythics, especially as giving an extra action has aged so well since the beginning of the game and is unlikely to become useless in the future.
So yeah, that's why she and the other fairies rank so high even if their additional effects aren't that great compared to newer dancers.
There's no way I'm merging up another astra mythic 😂 I have too many already since they've often had great shares when I had big savings. They haven't always aged well though, and i often have to fudge in Elimine/Plumeria/Veyle even though it hurts my score
What Astra mythics do you have merged up?