The Kramnik Passed D Pawn: Lecture by GM Ben Finegold

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  • Опубліковано 9 лют 2025
  • This lecture was recorded April 1st, 2024 in Roswell, Georgia. Thank you to Robert Olford for sponsoring this lecture!
    Games:
    03:27 Vladimir Kramnik vs Viswanathan Anand, Las Palmas 1996
    15:44 Vladimir Kramnik vs Viswanathan Anand, Leon 2002
    26:32 Vladimir Kramnik vs Veselin Topalov, Amsterdam Euwe Memorial 1996
    35:27 Vladimir Kramnik vs John Nunn, Olympiad Manila 1992
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 68

  • @douglasquaid7550
    @douglasquaid7550 10 місяців тому +72

    Imagine a year ago when Kramnik was Kramnik and not some crazy old dude who isn't even old.

    • @donsimons9810
      @donsimons9810 10 місяців тому +13

      everyone thought metallica were crazy uncool old dudes when they went kamikaze against napster. Cheating is ruining the game at the end of the day

    • @-Azure.EXE-
      @-Azure.EXE- 10 місяців тому +9

      He is only 48. It feels like he is 80 yelling at the moon.

    • @patrykapiezo1650
      @patrykapiezo1650 10 місяців тому +2

      Kramnik not being a crazy old dude?
      Interesting

    • @Aphixx
      @Aphixx 10 місяців тому +11

      @@donsimons9810 To be fair, metallica was crazy, old, and uncool way before napster

  • @Rubrickety
    @Rubrickety 10 місяців тому +38

    2002. Kramnik: "Anand is using an engine!!". Arbiter: "Yes, Mr. Kramnik. Yes he is."

  • @Steve-xo4nb
    @Steve-xo4nb 10 місяців тому +6

    You know what... This lecture helps so much. I tend to get the passed D pawn and I can usually only use it to deflect defense of a piece. Maybe I can build a strategy around it a little more. It's tough out here in the 1300's now-a-days. You gotta be Booked up. You help a lot with that Ben. Thanks for your content

  • @henrycampbell8655
    @henrycampbell8655 10 місяців тому +7

    No doubt. No doubt. Lets do the procedure.

  • @rdm5687
    @rdm5687 10 місяців тому +9

    03:30 What, Kramnik and Vishy playing here in Canarias? Man, the 90s were wild.

    • @keedt
      @keedt 10 місяців тому +3

      Spain was the absolute epicenter of chess in those years! Linares, Dos Hermanos, Bilbao, ...

  • @juhonieminen4219
    @juhonieminen4219 10 місяців тому +2

    I just bought a chess set with Kramnik D-pawn and H-pawn named Harry.

  • @jire9831
    @jire9831 10 місяців тому +13

    Very interesting

  • @thomasbeckett1245
    @thomasbeckett1245 4 місяці тому

    Your my hero Ben, mostly cause your one of the few people who talk chess in a normal way. Go Ben!

  • @MrSupernova111
    @MrSupernova111 7 місяців тому

    I needed this lecture. I play the accelerated panov attack and I often struggle to get my passed pawn and win the game. Thanks!

  • @joepangia4413
    @joepangia4413 10 місяців тому +1

    The Kramnick past d pawn seems a bit reminiscent of The Nimzowich school regarding the passed pawns lust for expansion and his postulate that a pawn with only one enemy pawn remaining on an adjacent file is 90% a past pawn.

  • @ahrrydepp493
    @ahrrydepp493 10 місяців тому +8

    Brother where is your candidates recap?? Im literally welling to miss school for your recaps, please do it

  • @rolandoorro1741
    @rolandoorro1741 10 місяців тому +2

    There shall be more lectures sir.

  • @syq1729
    @syq1729 10 місяців тому +2

    I guess you could say, if dxc6 at 9:49, that pawn is a past d-pawn

  • @kmarasin
    @kmarasin 10 місяців тому +31

    As crazy as Kramnik is, he's a great player. IMO, he's the first player that the term "super GM" applies to. Not because he's the first player at that strength; that's not what I mean.
    What I mean is that he's the first player to approach the role of professional chess player the way current top 50 players do. He pioneered using engines to prepare high-level opening novelties--he was responsible for the rise of the Berlin defense and the Re1 variation in the old QID main line. He challenged orthodox ideas, such as here: the general aversion GMs prior had of having this passed, isolated d-pawn.
    It's a Kramnik world, and we're just living in it.

    • @paulgoogol2652
      @paulgoogol2652 10 місяців тому +9

      Are you saying that Kramnik used a computer engine to gain advantages over other players? He is a fair player and would never cheat?!

    • @12jswilson
      @12jswilson 10 місяців тому +6

      That's not really true. Kasparov also used extensive engine analysis for his opening ideas and he did it before Kramnik did

    • @kmarasin
      @kmarasin 10 місяців тому +11

      @12jswilson you're right--but Kasparov got caught with his pants down in the 2000 WC match.
      It's not that no one did it before Kramnik, it's that Kramnik made it essential. That's partly luck, but he was the player occupying that particular pair of shoes.

    • @juhonieminen4219
      @juhonieminen4219 10 місяців тому +1

      Botvinnik was also pioneer in professional game preparation. He and his team made great number of novelties. Botvinnik used the soviet system as an engine that calculated new opening moves for him.

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 7 місяців тому +3

      Basically, you've redefined "super-GM" to mean something that can only exist since about the year 2000, by making high-powered engines a requirement. And then you say that Kramnik is, therefore, the first super-GM. I mean, sure, with that definition, yes, since he was the strongest GM at the time when your definition of "super-GM" became possible. But that's not what everybody else uses that term to mean and, as others have pointed out, Kramnik was hardly the first person to do this kind of analysis.

  • @keedt
    @keedt 10 місяців тому +3

    It's with d pawns as with cheating allegations: Kramnik is willing to take them very far! There are also some differences.

  • @King.Mark.
    @King.Mark. 10 місяців тому +1

    things that make you go hum
    sounds like something came out 😂

  • @tarnumj7319
    @tarnumj7319 10 місяців тому +27

    No candidates coverage from Ben? 😢

  • @jeffreywilliams3421
    @jeffreywilliams3421 10 місяців тому +3

    Sponsored by: Kramniks D. Pawn

  • @viennacircle1
    @viennacircle1 10 місяців тому +1

    Jonathan Rowson called the Grunfeld passed D pawn "Delroy"

  • @erickent4248
    @erickent4248 10 місяців тому +2

    Kramnik was very kind to play these games so that we can look at them now.

  • @sublimeade
    @sublimeade 10 місяців тому +4

    the dogs are barking because they didnt know the opening

  • @Roberto-bd9fq
    @Roberto-bd9fq 10 місяців тому +1

    After Ba5 Qe8 Re3. At 13:25

  • @douglaslarosa8782
    @douglaslarosa8782 10 місяців тому +2

    If you get a passed D pawn and you frequently win, always repeat, right?

  • @BobChess
    @BobChess 9 місяців тому

    Very interesting game by Kramnik. Interesting

  • @muntahassan6384
    @muntahassan6384 10 місяців тому +7

    no candidates content this year ?

  • @gavinjones8543
    @gavinjones8543 10 місяців тому +1

    Played through kramnik games a while ago and saw that a winning promotion was a regular theme, but well done for catching up.

  • @LazyPoet101
    @LazyPoet101 7 місяців тому

    Hey If you didn't notice their is a low hum from the microphone, must just be a loose connection.

  • @beeble2003
    @beeble2003 7 місяців тому

    30:50 Two Kramnik passed D-pawns -- one for each of ya!

  • @arekfu1980
    @arekfu1980 4 місяці тому

    23:32 fun fact: all pawns on the seventh tank are passed

  • @pedrovannucchipsi
    @pedrovannucchipsi 10 місяців тому +2

    Will you make comments about Candidates games?

  • @nobuharu2336
    @nobuharu2336 10 місяців тому +2

    Always like

  • @donsimons9810
    @donsimons9810 10 місяців тому +1

    wait this video is actually posted in timely fashion? im confused

    • @donsimons9810
      @donsimons9810 10 місяців тому +1

      confusing the audience! that's what i meant

  • @Admiralmeriweather
    @Admiralmeriweather 6 місяців тому

    max euwe also got passed pawns in the midgame

  • @railspony
    @railspony 8 місяців тому

    The saddest part about Kramnik is that prior to Carlsen's hissy fit, Kramnik had been the victim of the worst cheating false-accusations in history, aka Toiletgate. Of everybody in the chess world, he should have known better. My theory is that his current insanity is actually a macho over-reaction to that; he was angry and bitter at being portrayed as a victim. And the only way to make people forget was to become the evil bully making the false accusations.

  • @_nemo171
    @_nemo171 10 місяців тому +5

    Kramnik?
    Very suspicious!

    • @psychohist
      @psychohist 10 місяців тому +3

      Nah, just interesting.

  • @Covidbowie
    @Covidbowie 8 місяців тому

    Mr finegold your dogs see more tacticts then i do

  • @henryalexander7325
    @henryalexander7325 10 місяців тому +1

    Imagine being reported for cheating by a d pawn

  • @sandwedge
    @sandwedge 10 місяців тому

    more kramnik past the deep end

  • @terallaret5987
    @terallaret5987 10 місяців тому +11

    LOL at 34:32 he farts
    - The Truth hurts

    • @Fujibayashi50
      @Fujibayashi50 10 місяців тому +7

      Very suspicious

    • @_nemo171
      @_nemo171 10 місяців тому +1

      For real or 50-50 chance to be real?

    • @kmarasin
      @kmarasin 10 місяців тому +2

      "Bof bof" - the almost bark. That means the dogs are very suspicious.

    • @Hh-yd3dj
      @Hh-yd3dj 10 місяців тому +1

      Nah.. -The truth squirts 😮

  • @ДенисЮденков-ь5ж
    @ДенисЮденков-ь5ж 10 місяців тому

    What about e pawn?)

  • @sandwedge
    @sandwedge 10 місяців тому

    how about kramnik's passed brain cells

  • @juanjuzgadoibiza558
    @juanjuzgadoibiza558 16 днів тому

    ua-cam.com/video/-BzRMSH0O2Y/v-deo.html Bonus game, Kramnik-Van Der Wiel

  • @HeKToN
    @HeKToN 10 місяців тому

    Isn't the term passed pawn on 7th rank wrong ? There's no way a pawn is on 7th without being passed anyway, unless you're a GM. Oh snap

  • @dogthedogdog
    @dogthedogdog 2 місяці тому

    I want to watch these but the mouth noises make it so hard ...

  • @sparkster4000
    @sparkster4000 10 місяців тому +4

    Ben, you should really be covering the candidates if you want to grow the channel. I’d really rather watch a recap from you than Gotham or any other garbage like that. You’d be extremely funny and also have good analysis.

    • @sklikizos
      @sklikizos 2 місяці тому

      You should sponsor it.