Between steel and aluminum, steel would be the one you could get longer life out of. It can be repaired if needed which is going to be the biggest plus towards longevity.
I've heard that aluminum bikes feel dead after some years, is this true? Will we see 20-30 year old aluminum bikes for sale like we see old steel bikes for sale now a days?
I've never felt like my aluminum bikes feel dead, however I could potentially see that happening as the metal goes through different forces while being ridden. Sadly I don't think old aluminum bikes will ever quite have the value of a solid old steel bike.
I am confused on which bike to buy.... I am from India and I am guessing my choices between Polygon cascade 2, Frog dupiter or Upgrade weapon.... I am confused between what type of frame to go for..... None of them is "Steel" They are all "Alloy steel" And the polygon one is "alloy aluminum"........ I am a bit concerned regarding the durability of aluminum as I have heard that it is frail and breaks quickly..... I am looking for a long term cycle (at least 5 years) and I have had past experience with a steel alloy MTB bike.... It was my Hercules rodeo and It got rusted after just ONE monsoon season (the rain season) after being left out in the open. I am so CONFUSED 😵.... Which one should I pick???
So "alloy steel" is essentially a steel frame bike, its slightly better than the more common "carbon steel", being slightly less weight and slightly more rust resistant. "Alloy aluminum" is going to be your standard aluminum frame. The vast majority of my bikes are aluminum frames and I haven't had any issues any with some heavy abuse through mountain biking, the oldest one being 10+ years old and still works fine. I'm familiar with the rainy season (lived in Hawaii for 8 years) and how it can kill a steel bike, so if you're looking for a bike to not rust in those conditions, the aluminum would be the way to go.
Sir,. Thanks for your video. Am confused between steel and alloy 6061 cycle of same brand getting at same price. But will alloy frame last as long as steel? Like 15 20 years or so Though this cycle is mtb but I will mostly use for city road. What do you recommend?
It's interesting that a steel and alloy frame are the same price. The alloy frame should last just as long as a steel frame. For mostly city riding the weight difference going with aluminum would be noticable so that's what I would go with.
A 6061 Alu frame will simply not last as long as a good quality steel frame. Particularly if you ride a lot. Some materials like carbon fiber composites and aluminum have fatigue strength significantly lower than steel. This means these materials can only take so many stress cycles and they will fail. Steels fatigue strength is high enough that it has an unlimited number of stress cycles and will not fatigue or fail. You literally have to stress steel to it’s failure point for it to fail. That is not the case with carbon fiber composites or Aluminum Alloys. Given enough cycles of stress both will eventually fail. Steel will not. There is a catch though. Steel is more susceptible to corrosion and can fail due to corrosion. However corrosion is easily prevented in a quality steel bike frame. So yes a quality steel frame will last significantly longer than either a carbon or aluminum frame if properly taken care of. Having said that even though quality carbon and aluminum frames are not as durable as a quality steel frame they are still pretty darned durable and will probably outlast your bikes components and those will last years if taken care of properly. Once you’re in that situation and due to advances and changes that occur you will often find it’s more cost affective to buy a new bike then replacing the wheels and components. Having said that I have a 1993 Schwinn Paramount Steel frame bike that I’ve had to completely replace the components twice in those 29 years. It is by all measures still a superb riding bike. But to answer your question it depends on the quality of the steel frame. If the steel frame is standard 1040 CroMo with no butting and the frame price is equal go with the 6061 Alu frame. If the steel frame is a high end tube set like a Reynolds 853 and the frame prices are the same go with the steel. The aluminum frame will be a little lighter but the ride quality, durability, customization and other factors will be superior. More than likely the higher end steel will cost more than an Aluminum 6061 but will probably be a better bike.
The carbon frame I'm talking about is carbon fiber. Carbon steel is just a fancy way of saying it's a standard steel frame. Alloy is going to be an aluminum frame. Each has its pros and cons like I say in the video.
Bro I loved the video. I'm going to buy my 1st cycle. Should I buy steel? But as steel frames are heavy,are they gonna be painful to ride? Than the aluminium?
Thanks for watching! You will have to pedal around a bit more weight with a steel bike, however for a first bike, a steel frame is a nice way to go. They are a lot more forgiving and ride a lot smoother than an aluminum frame. Between the two frames as long as both are good quality materials you'll notice a difference in weight between steel and aluminum.
I payed 240 dollars for my aluminuim bike. Will the frame last. I dont any trail riding or harsh tricks and jumping none of that. I just ride around town. But can it still fail after years or could it have the potential to last forever if i continue doing what i do
I've been riding my bikes (all of which are aluminum) pretty hard for at least the past 10 years for what I still own. No issues with the frames at all. Generally even on an inexpensive bike the frame will be the good quality portion with all of the other components being the cheaper quality. Always gives you a good platform to upgrade on later.
@@YourFavoriteCyclist oh wow thank dude!! That just made me feel alot better. I was worried about the frame but not anymore. And yes im going to upgrade and buy another bike and keep the bike i got now just to cruise around town in and buy a bike thats like 500 ot 600 just in case i want to go trailing.
Durability wise I would have to say either steel or carbon. Modern carbon is pretty beefy stuff, I think it was either Skills with Phil or Seth Bike Hacks that did a carbon torture test and it stood up pretty well. Now if we're talking middle of nowhere and your chainstay breaks for whatever reason, anybody with a welder can repair your steel frame, good luck with your carbon frame!
Steel is going to have the most flex, makes it ride a little smoother. Aluminum is pretty rigid, doesn't flex too much at all hence a rougher ride. I wouldn't say carbon neccessarily has flex to it, it just has some vibration damping due to the material which helps the ride, but overall pretty sturdy (depends on the quality of carbon but generally sturdy)
I was scrolling through my comments and realized I never responded to this one. Alloy is going to be an aluminum frame. There's pluses and minuses to each like I talk about in the video.
Carbon steel is the most common lf steel frames. As with everything if you take good care of it it'll last a long time. If you go dunk it in the ocean, yeah it'll rust pretty quick.
I personally enjoy steel bikes. Big pros would be that they're strong, they absorb a lot of the trail vibrations while you ride and most of the time are less expensive than aluminum or carbon bikes. The only time I would shy away from one would be if you were going to be doing a lot of climbing or hike a biking, if it's not geared low enough you may notice the extra weight. All in all though I would definetly recommend a steel mtb for someone buying their first mtb!
Noway. F steel. Imagine lifting 10 pounds more up a 50 ft climb. Its basic science, steel will wear you out. Aluminum costs more, faster and lighter, you will spend less energy on the same ride.
Hello love from India I am going to buy my first mtb and I am confused between steel hardtail and alloy hardtail so please suggest me a good one and also confused between Firefox gangzta 29D vs Firefox cyclone 27.5D answer me sir which one I will buy
Thanks for watching! So a steel hardtail is going to be similar to the gangzta 29D while a alloy (aluminum) hardtail is going to be like the cyclone 27.5D. I took a look at the 2 bikes on their webpage and overal it looks like the Cyclone 27.5D is the better bang for the buck. Its fairly common to see the difference between a 29er and a 27.5 be in the components and in this case it appears thw material of the frame as well, while still having close to the same price tag. In my opinion between those 2 bikes I would say the Cyclone 27.5D would be the more fun bike between the 2. Its going to be lighter and the smaller wheels make it much nimbler on the trails. Hope that helps!
@@YourFavouriteGamer Took a look at the two bikes, they are very similar to each other. Between them the Chelsea 27.5 looks to be slightly better equipped. It has a longer travel work with a lockout and a better rear gear set, its a little more mountain bike focused than the Cyclone 27.5D, so if thats what you're looking for I would go with the Chelsea 27.5.
@@YourFavoriteCyclistthanks for your valuable time and feedback sir but some people are saying Firefox have it's own brand value in India and frog is new in the market that's a big confusion for me I loved frog Chelsea but I said already it's a new company in the town big confusion for me Frog Chelsea have a great in look but company is new and Firefox is very older and genuine brand in India which one ill go with
Either wheel can be trued the same as the other, steel has a more likely chance of being able to be bent back if badly damaged, but both can be trued equally.
Carbon steel is your most common type of steel framed bicycle, nothing super special about it. It really just depends what you're looking for which frame would be better for you. If you're looking for lighter aluminum is the way to go, steel will give you a little more vibration dampening but be heavier.
harikrishnan I already have steel MTB but my friends always doing trails so my dream bike is full suspension mtb. I want to try roadbike too but I like MTB more than RB
You are absolutely correct bro, steel cycle good, good Suggestion
Steel or aluminum what should I pick for long last? Weight is Nevermind its all about life of bike what should I pick
Between steel and aluminum, steel would be the one you could get longer life out of. It can be repaired if needed which is going to be the biggest plus towards longevity.
I've heard that aluminum bikes feel dead after some years, is this true? Will we see 20-30 year old aluminum bikes for sale like we see old steel bikes for sale now a days?
I've never felt like my aluminum bikes feel dead, however I could potentially see that happening as the metal goes through different forces while being ridden.
Sadly I don't think old aluminum bikes will ever quite have the value of a solid old steel bike.
I am watching from India
Awesome! Thanks for watching!
I am confused on which bike to buy.... I am from India and I am guessing my choices between Polygon cascade 2, Frog dupiter or Upgrade weapon.... I am confused between what type of frame to go for..... None of them is "Steel" They are all "Alloy steel" And the polygon one is "alloy aluminum"........ I am a bit concerned regarding the durability of aluminum as I have heard that it is frail and breaks quickly..... I am looking for a long term cycle (at least 5 years) and I have had past experience with a steel alloy MTB bike.... It was my Hercules rodeo and It got rusted after just ONE monsoon season (the rain season) after being left out in the open. I am so CONFUSED 😵.... Which one should I pick???
So "alloy steel" is essentially a steel frame bike, its slightly better than the more common "carbon steel", being slightly less weight and slightly more rust resistant. "Alloy aluminum" is going to be your standard aluminum frame. The vast majority of my bikes are aluminum frames and I haven't had any issues any with some heavy abuse through mountain biking, the oldest one being 10+ years old and still works fine. I'm familiar with the rainy season (lived in Hawaii for 8 years) and how it can kill a steel bike, so if you're looking for a bike to not rust in those conditions, the aluminum would be the way to go.
Sir,.
Thanks for your video.
Am confused between steel and alloy 6061 cycle of same brand getting at same price. But will alloy frame last as long as steel? Like 15 20 years or so
Though this cycle is mtb but I will mostly use for city road. What do you recommend?
It's interesting that a steel and alloy frame are the same price. The alloy frame should last just as long as a steel frame. For mostly city riding the weight difference going with aluminum would be noticable so that's what I would go with.
A 6061 Alu frame will simply not last as long as a good quality steel frame. Particularly if you ride a lot. Some materials like carbon fiber composites and aluminum have fatigue strength significantly lower than steel.
This means these materials can only take so many stress cycles and they will fail.
Steels fatigue strength is high enough that it has an unlimited number of stress cycles and will not fatigue or fail. You literally have to stress steel to it’s failure point for it to fail.
That is not the case with carbon fiber composites or Aluminum Alloys. Given enough cycles of stress both will eventually fail. Steel will not.
There is a catch though. Steel is more susceptible to corrosion and can fail due to corrosion. However corrosion is easily prevented in a quality steel bike frame.
So yes a quality steel frame will last significantly longer than either a carbon or aluminum frame if properly taken care of.
Having said that even though quality carbon and aluminum frames are not as durable as a quality steel frame they are still pretty darned durable and will probably outlast your bikes components and those will last years if taken care of properly.
Once you’re in that situation and due to advances and changes that occur you will often find it’s more cost affective to buy a new bike then replacing the wheels and components.
Having said that I have a 1993 Schwinn Paramount Steel frame bike that I’ve had to completely replace the components twice in those 29 years. It is by all measures still a superb riding bike.
But to answer your question it depends on the quality of the steel frame. If the steel frame is standard 1040 CroMo with no butting and the frame price is equal go with the 6061 Alu frame.
If the steel frame is a high end tube set like a Reynolds 853 and the frame prices are the same go with the steel. The aluminum frame will be a little lighter but the ride quality, durability, customization and other factors will be superior.
More than likely the higher end steel will cost more than an Aluminum 6061 but will probably be a better bike.
hi, about the carbon frame you are talking, is it the same with the High carbon steel? which is better? alloy or high carbon steel?
The carbon frame I'm talking about is carbon fiber. Carbon steel is just a fancy way of saying it's a standard steel frame. Alloy is going to be an aluminum frame. Each has its pros and cons like I say in the video.
Bro I loved the video. I'm going to buy my 1st cycle. Should I buy steel? But as steel frames are heavy,are they gonna be painful to ride? Than the aluminium?
Thanks for watching! You will have to pedal around a bit more weight with a steel bike, however for a first bike, a steel frame is a nice way to go. They are a lot more forgiving and ride a lot smoother than an aluminum frame. Between the two frames as long as both are good quality materials you'll notice a difference in weight between steel and aluminum.
I payed 240 dollars for my aluminuim bike. Will the frame last. I dont any trail riding or harsh tricks and jumping none of that. I just ride around town. But can it still fail after years or could it have the potential to last forever if i continue doing what i do
I've been riding my bikes (all of which are aluminum) pretty hard for at least the past 10 years for what I still own. No issues with the frames at all.
Generally even on an inexpensive bike the frame will be the good quality portion with all of the other components being the cheaper quality. Always gives you a good platform to upgrade on later.
@@YourFavoriteCyclist oh wow thank dude!! That just made me feel alot better. I was worried about the frame but not anymore. And yes im going to upgrade and buy another bike and keep the bike i got now just to cruise around town in and buy a bike thats like 500 ot 600 just in case i want to go trailing.
Informative video. By the way which bike will be good in terms of durability..? Is it going to be Carbon , Aluminium or Steel..?
Durability wise I would have to say either steel or carbon. Modern carbon is pretty beefy stuff, I think it was either Skills with Phil or Seth Bike Hacks that did a carbon torture test and it stood up pretty well.
Now if we're talking middle of nowhere and your chainstay breaks for whatever reason, anybody with a welder can repair your steel frame, good luck with your carbon frame!
What's the difference in flex across the frames?
Steel is going to have the most flex, makes it ride a little smoother. Aluminum is pretty rigid, doesn't flex too much at all hence a rougher ride. I wouldn't say carbon neccessarily has flex to it, it just has some vibration damping due to the material which helps the ride, but overall pretty sturdy (depends on the quality of carbon but generally sturdy)
I have a question, is there a carbon steel frame bike? And is it worth it?
Carbon steel is the most common type of steel frame, its also called high-tensile steel. Nothing super special about it.
@@YourFavoriteCyclist also is alloy better than carbon steel?
I was scrolling through my comments and realized I never responded to this one. Alloy is going to be an aluminum frame. There's pluses and minuses to each like I talk about in the video.
will a carbon steel frame last long?
is it easy to get rust?
Carbon steel is the most common lf steel frames. As with everything if you take good care of it it'll last a long time. If you go dunk it in the ocean, yeah it'll rust pretty quick.
im about to buy my first mtb, do you recomend to get an Steel mtb? as my first bike?
I personally enjoy steel bikes. Big pros would be that they're strong, they absorb a lot of the trail vibrations while you ride and most of the time are less expensive than aluminum or carbon bikes. The only time I would shy away from one would be if you were going to be doing a lot of climbing or hike a biking, if it's not geared low enough you may notice the extra weight.
All in all though I would definetly recommend a steel mtb for someone buying their first mtb!
Noway. F steel. Imagine lifting 10 pounds more up a 50 ft climb. Its basic science, steel will wear you out. Aluminum costs more, faster and lighter, you will spend less energy on the same ride.
Hello love from India
I am going to buy my first mtb and I am confused between steel hardtail and alloy hardtail so please suggest me a good one and also confused between Firefox gangzta 29D vs Firefox cyclone 27.5D answer me sir which one I will buy
Thanks for watching! So a steel hardtail is going to be similar to the gangzta 29D while a alloy (aluminum) hardtail is going to be like the cyclone 27.5D. I took a look at the 2 bikes on their webpage and overal it looks like the Cyclone 27.5D is the better bang for the buck.
Its fairly common to see the difference between a 29er and a 27.5 be in the components and in this case it appears thw material of the frame as well, while still having close to the same price tag.
In my opinion between those 2 bikes I would say the Cyclone 27.5D would be the more fun bike between the 2. Its going to be lighter and the smaller wheels make it much nimbler on the trails.
Hope that helps!
@@YourFavoriteCyclist thanks a lot man it helps a lot and I will go with you and I will buy cyclone thanks for your valuable time you are amazing man
@@YourFavoriteCyclist hello sir can you please suggest me a frog Chelsea 27.5 or Firefox cyclone 27.5D which one please last suggest do me.a fever ♥️
@@YourFavouriteGamer Took a look at the two bikes, they are very similar to each other. Between them the Chelsea 27.5 looks to be slightly better equipped. It has a longer travel work with a lockout and a better rear gear set, its a little more mountain bike focused than the Cyclone 27.5D, so if thats what you're looking for I would go with the Chelsea 27.5.
@@YourFavoriteCyclistthanks for your valuable time and feedback sir but some people are saying Firefox have it's own brand value in India and frog is new in the market that's a big confusion for me I loved frog Chelsea but I said already it's a new company in the town big confusion for me Frog Chelsea have a great in look but company is new and Firefox is very older and genuine brand in India which one ill go with
Is it steel rim matches truly to aluminimum rim truly
Either wheel can be trued the same as the other, steel has a more likely chance of being able to be bent back if badly damaged, but both can be trued equally.
Hey, is carbon steel frame better or an Aluminum frame?
Carbon steel is your most common type of steel framed bicycle, nothing super special about it. It really just depends what you're looking for which frame would be better for you. If you're looking for lighter aluminum is the way to go, steel will give you a little more vibration dampening but be heavier.
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When it comes to trail, long ride, etc which is sturdier steel or aluminum frame? I know carbon is expensive but it’s fragile
Hey bro carbon is best of both worlds
harikrishnan i want it but can’t afford it. Too expensive 😩
@@johncollindegala5505 ohh same here bro
Which bike do you need?
harikrishnan I already have steel MTB but my friends always doing trails so my dream bike is full suspension mtb. I want to try roadbike too but I like MTB more than RB
Bro then go for full suspension mountain bike
But it's more expensive than a hardtail
Thanks for the tips.
Thanks for watching!
Steel is Great
Can't go wrong with steel!
Bro science at its best lol
Crazy how far bikes have come!
Where is your voice
Pretty sure you can hear it in the video.