Another commenter says they “lost their money betting on the wrong side in the American Civil War”? Supporting slavery would seem an odd thing to do for Quakers.
Can somebody buy it if it's still under the lease? Who did they buy it from? The family of the person who leased it them originally, or from the Malcomsons family?
It was owed by Irish tanners who went broke in the 70s the lake was so toxic they filled it in which caused the lands to be a financial burden and worthless. Malcolmson built the house however it is on leased lands from Marquis of Waterford the lease was sold for one pound by Irish tanners just to get rid of the cost of removing the waste the tannery left behind
Malcolmsons had numerous Mills and houses they had Pouldrew House and Mill Kilmeadan before they built the Cotton Mills at Portlaw that house is in excellent condition.
Based on government regulation and general busybody behaviours a house like that is not commercially viable. Then people seem to have a desire to use taxes to fund such over-regulated projects.
@@biulaimh3097 I'm from Tinahely in Co. Wicklow. The local river is the Derry and we still have a native oak forest (Tomnafinnoge). Would be great if they planted an oak forest in Derry
Portlaw was not the first planned town in Ireland. That is a preposterous claim. All Norman towns in Ireland were planned with streets laid out, plot widths determined and licence granted by the King (in England) by way of a royal charter. Drogheda was one of the earliest, founded as two towns in 1194 (over 600 years before Portlaw) on either side of the Boyne, with the street pattern laid out by surveyors and individual plots with the same width demarkated and leased to burghers. Further waves of planned towns folowed in the 16th century, as part of the plantation of Ireland such as Portlaoise, and even in the 18th century, Westport (1767) and Ballinasloe appear to predate Portlaw.
@@Paul-te8mz my apologies for the confusion. It was the first planned ‘industrial’ town. My mistake for omitting ‘industrial’. I of course didn’t mean that it was the first ever planned town in the country. I’ve updated the title now. Thanks for pointing this out.
I've been in Portlaw quite a few times but contrived to miss the house, I need my eyes checked!
Very well shot content and great narration!
David Malcomson was my 4x great Grandfather, and he was in fact a quaker, the family originally settled in Lurgan, Armagh before coming to Clonmel.
Another commenter says they “lost their money betting on the wrong side in the American Civil War”? Supporting slavery would seem an odd thing to do for Quakers.
West brits
Nice glimpse into the past.
Well done on filming this,sad really to see it in such disrepair.
Excellent video, thouroughly enjoyed watching it.
Starving people forced to build a big house like that ... must have been awful.
Very interesting
Very interesting, subbed.
My father told me that the Malcomson's lost their money by betting on the wrong side in the American Civil War.
@@extramild1 that is correct
It is always a bad thing to bet on wars, always far better to go for peace
Unless you're a rothschild @@jamesbradshaw3389
@@historicireland Yeah - I kinda wish I listened to him more but it is now to late.
@@extramild1 very sorry to hear that
Is it up on DAFT?
Nah the west brits wouldn't let it out
👏👍☘
Definitely not the first planned town in Ireland. Westport 1767 way earlier
Ballyshannon is the oldest town in Ireland.
Can somebody buy it if it's still under the lease? Who did they buy it from? The family of the person who leased it them originally, or from the Malcomsons family?
It was owed by Irish tanners who went broke in the 70s the lake was so toxic they filled it in which caused the lands to be a financial burden and worthless.
Malcolmson built the house however it is on leased lands from Marquis of Waterford the lease was sold for one pound by Irish tanners just to get rid of the cost of removing the waste the tannery left behind
Malcolmsons had numerous Mills and houses they had Pouldrew House and Mill Kilmeadan before they built the Cotton Mills at Portlaw that house is in excellent condition.
As a Mayfield man , I was originally confused
Same
Aye jackeens aren't the smart type. West brits.
It could be turned into a new Hotel for illegal immigration !
Based on government regulation and general busybody behaviours a house like that is not commercially viable. Then people seem to have a desire to use taxes to fund such over-regulated projects.
Sub
Derry/Londonderry was first planned town in Ireland 1613
Is the grove of oak trees still there? If not, how about planting a small oak forest near Derry, in keeping with the origin of the name.
@@biulaimh3097 all cut down for charcoal, iron smelting , farming, building and alegedly the navy
@@conorgribbin3928 .... and the 12th of July :(
@@biulaimh3097 I'm from Tinahely in Co. Wicklow. The local river is the Derry and we still have a native oak forest (Tomnafinnoge).
Would be great if they planted an oak forest in Derry
Ballyshannon is the oldest town in Ireland.
Portlaw was not the first planned town in Ireland. That is a preposterous claim. All Norman towns in Ireland were planned with streets laid out, plot widths determined and licence granted by the King (in England) by way of a royal charter. Drogheda was one of the earliest, founded as two towns in 1194 (over 600 years before Portlaw) on either side of the Boyne, with the street pattern laid out by surveyors and individual plots with the same width demarkated and leased to burghers. Further waves of planned towns folowed in the 16th century, as part of the plantation of Ireland such as Portlaoise, and even in the 18th century, Westport (1767) and Ballinasloe appear to predate Portlaw.
@@Paul-te8mz my apologies for the confusion. It was the first planned ‘industrial’ town. My mistake for omitting ‘industrial’. I of course didn’t mean that it was the first ever planned town in the country. I’ve updated the title now. Thanks for pointing this out.