For anyone else attempting this on your own, I sent the part to a company called UpFix. Took them two weeks to fix all the seals and replace the pump. They cleaned it up so well it looked new when returned to me. Cost me $450 as opposed to the $1300/new or $800-900/used. The only downside I had to wait 2.5 weeks to get the part back.
Hi Robert Sumner I'm glad you got your unit repaired. What symptoms/codes did you get for you to decide to change the actuator. I'm also thinking of sending the unit out for repair over the summer time. Thanks.
Can you go further in depth on how to do the gravity bleed? Currently attempting to now and it would help! Like how long you waited for the fluid to come out.
If it’s not coming out after a bit have someone push the pedal down and snug up the line before release the pedal do that a couple times see if it starts on its own otherwise you have to bleed like that
Doing this next Monday. so after install all the dashlights disappeared or did you erase them with scanner and they have not come back on? Thank you for the video.
Hey Great Video!!! I have a 2011 Lexus LS 460 Rear Wheel Drive I was told by by my dealership I needed a new ABS module so I purchased a used one for $645 and had it put it in for another 1180. Now the mechanic that put it in is telling me that they cannot get the rear breaks to bleed, but the front did bleed, and they think I purchased module with a bad pump. They want me to send the module back, purchase a new one and charge me an additional $800 to put another in. After watching your video I dont think they know what there doing. Can you please advise me on how to bleed the the rear brakes? Or what you think my next step should be?
@@kevinhayles3311 start bleeding close to the master and work your way back to the rears . Use a pressure bleeder if you have one or make one from a cooling system pressure pump and get a cap that fits the reservoir and fabricate a fitting on top and pump some pressure on top of the fluid to force it threw a vacuum type at bleeder fo not work as good
Great video! My 08 ls460's brakes are not as responsive and strong as my 06 ls430. When you replaced the actuator. How did the brakes feel? Was the braking responsiveness restored? After changing the actuator do you think the brakes are strong on this car?
They say but mine was used so it might of just used the programming from the old vehicle I’m sure if it’s a remanufactured one it would need to be , try it have to program it anyway
I guess the one thing that confuses me is that how you got away with not using the lexus "special tool" to bleed it. Some guys seem to say its necessary.
Gravity bleed to the unit with the lines connected but loose and then pushed pedal to floor to help get air out of master then tightened and did it the same way on the unit , take your time , remember master first unit second
They say need a scanner to activate the abs solenoids well the way I did it pretty much the same way I do all the abs units start at the master and work your way down from there get someone to push the pedal for you slot faster that way just take your time it will be fine
Hello this greate video and very understandable explain, thnak you very much, If you can help me I have DTC c1391(Abnormal Leak in Accumulator) Lexus CT200h what is broken, Vaccum Pump or Master Cylinder Assembly or both parts need to replace?
Hi, Can you share where you got your replacement part from?. I need the same job done & cant afford the dealer's pricing. And did that ABS module include the brake pump motor assembly & brake actuator inside of it?. Like, is it all one whole part or 3 individual pieces?. I'm trying to understand.
Usually it’s just the attached accumulator that goes bad, I took mine to the dealer cause my accumulator went bad and he told me the tech said no I needed the module and it would cost $3000. I told him it’s the accumulator but if that fixes the problem then yes I agree to pay that. Tech changed it and found out I was right. I had a loaner car for a month through all of this process. Most techs just throw parts at vehicles now because either they don’t know or the dealership won’t pay the worth of good mechanics anymore.
You did not have to get the module programmed to make it work? That is the issue I keep hearing about. When replacing this unit, you have to program the module to the specific car that it is being installed on... Is that not correct?
The gravity bleed is what is confusing. did you bleed the brakes by yourself? You mention pumping the brakes with the ABS lines 1/8 turned open...how did you not get air in the system?
I loosened like a half turn push to the floor install a long bar to hold pedal down then tighten the Le and release the bar and repeat a bunch of times to help bleed master also loosen up a little and let them drop too start at top work your way down sometimes easier with someone pushing pedal you open then push down and hold and you tighten then release pedal and loosen and push pedal
Once you bleed master and confirm no air in ABS Module, then you need to bleed each line going to the calipers, right? This way you finish bleeding the entire system, correct? You don’t mention this in video.
@@robertsumner9980 well your right there , I got lucking and didn’t get any air in the system kinda hard to explain but if you have fluid in a hose open on top and closed at bottom the fluid won’t drain out until you open the other end and if siphon out kinda like the same effect hope you understand
Wow. Thats just great Great video. You are the man. I have the same thing going. I could handle this repair. Especially with your video. BTW how much was your used unit? Thanks scott
After replacing my 2010 LS air suspension with Arnotts Air Suspension and you will loose the sport, and comfort selection, I decided its time to move on with my LS and trade it for a new Camry SE. Great cars but the older they get the more expensive they get.
44510-50070 is a superseded part. It'll fail again eventually. The right part should be 44050-50170. Did you clean off the brake fluid? It'll eat through that chassis paint in no time.
You have to call dealer with your vin number see if it fits or go on eBay and find correct one or find the year of one you want to put on and have them see if you vin will fit , if you buy one on eBay they should be able to run your vin for you
For anyone else attempting this on your own, I sent the part to a company called UpFix. Took them two weeks to fix all the seals and replace the pump. They cleaned it up so well it looked new when returned to me. Cost me $450 as opposed to the $1300/new or $800-900/used. The only downside I had to wait 2.5 weeks to get the part back.
Sounds good hope it works out for you
That's awesome, great to hear that's working well for you. By the way what symptoms did your car have for you to service the brake actuator?
@@johndavid7637 gosh been awhile pretty sure shorted out power code
Hi Robert Sumner
I'm glad you got your unit repaired.
What symptoms/codes did you get for you to decide to change the actuator. I'm also thinking of sending the unit out for repair over the summer time. Thanks.
was the car okay not having the brake wires and stuff for 2 weeks?
This makes me a lot more confident about buying a ls460 tomorrow… I really love the car but this issue was always scary to me
internal leaking Brake Actuators and leaking coolant valley are common on ls460
Can you go further in depth on how to do the gravity bleed? Currently attempting to now and it would help! Like how long you waited for the fluid to come out.
If it’s not coming out after a bit have someone push the pedal down and snug up the line before release the pedal do that a couple times see if it starts on its own otherwise you have to bleed like that
Doing this next Monday. so after install all the dashlights disappeared or did you erase them with scanner and they have not come back on? Thank you for the video.
Cleared codes with scanner and it was a success
Is that C1391 code which I have?
Yes
Hey Great Video!!! I have a 2011 Lexus LS 460 Rear Wheel Drive I was told by by my dealership I needed a new ABS module so I purchased a used one for $645 and had it put it in for another 1180. Now the mechanic that put it in is telling me that they cannot get the rear breaks to bleed, but the front did bleed, and they think I purchased module with a bad pump. They want me to send the module back, purchase a new one and charge me an additional $800 to put another in. After watching your video I dont think they know what there doing. Can you please advise me on how to bleed the the rear brakes? Or what you think my next step should be?
@@kevinhayles3311 start bleeding close to the master and work your way back to the rears . Use a pressure bleeder if you have one or make one from a cooling system pressure pump and get a cap that fits the reservoir and fabricate a fitting on top and pump some pressure on top of the fluid to force it threw a vacuum type at bleeder fo not work as good
Great video! My 08 ls460's brakes are not as responsive and strong as my 06 ls430. When you replaced the actuator. How did the brakes feel? Was the braking responsiveness restored? After changing the actuator do you think the brakes are strong on this car?
Brake pedal felt normal just make sure there’s no air in system
Great video I do have a question if I replace the whole unit you pulled out would there be any reprogramming needed?
They say but mine was used so it might of just used the programming from the old vehicle I’m sure if it’s a remanufactured one it would need to be , try it have to program it anyway
@@richierock1300 okay I have a 07 ls460 and I plan on buying one used from LKQ or off marketplace. I really hope I don’t have to get it programmed
@@Domthedon33 how did it end up? Did you reaplce the unit? Did you get it programmed?
@@Domthedon33 do you remember what codes you had? and did you buy the whole assembly (pump,actuator, module, accumulator)?
I guess the one thing that confuses me is that how you got away with not using the lexus "special tool" to bleed it. Some guys seem to say its necessary.
Gravity bleed to the unit with the lines connected but loose and then pushed pedal to floor to help get air out of master then tightened and did it the same way on the unit , take your time , remember master first unit second
There is no special tool needed its total bs
You did a great job with this video!
Thank you
Brake code... is that the vsc/trac control light off (squiggly lines w car) that shows on dash?
So what’s involve in the bleeding? If it’s not done correctly is the pedal still hard
They say need a scanner to activate the abs solenoids well the way I did it pretty much the same way I do all the abs units start at the master and work your way down from there get someone to push the pedal for you slot faster that way just take your time it will be fine
Same problem with my wifes 08 thank you for your video Sir
Hello this greate video and very understandable explain, thnak you very much, If you can help me I have DTC c1391(Abnormal Leak in Accumulator) Lexus CT200h what is broken, Vaccum Pump or Master Cylinder Assembly or both parts need to replace?
I’d get a used one or a rebuilt on complete with master
it is necessary to replace 2 parts?
No mainly do the module assembly
Hi,
Can you share where you got your replacement part from?.
I need the same job done & cant afford the dealer's pricing.
And did that ABS module include the brake pump motor assembly & brake actuator inside of it?.
Like, is it all one whole part or 3 individual pieces?.
I'm trying to understand.
eBay make sure to have your vin # to give to them to see if compatible
Usually it’s just the attached accumulator that goes bad, I took mine to the dealer cause my accumulator went bad and he told me the tech said no I needed the module and it would cost $3000. I told him it’s the accumulator but if that fixes the problem then yes I agree to pay that. Tech changed it and found out I was right. I had a loaner car for a month through all of this process. Most techs just throw parts at vehicles now because either they don’t know or the dealership won’t pay the worth of good mechanics anymore.
What was your car’s symptoms? What was your problem?
@@Maxumized it was the accumulator that went bad.
@@Maxumized the car starts beeping loud constantly after you start the engine and you have barely any braking power.
Switched out my old one for a LKQ one. Parts and labor I’m about 800 in and my light comes back on has your came back on ?
No sir
You did not have to get the module programmed to make it work? That is the issue I keep hearing about. When replacing this unit, you have to program the module to the specific car that it is being installed on... Is that not correct?
Well I didn’t I worked tight off the bat and still is I guess I got lucky hopefully you will too
Thinking about doing this myself after seeing the video, got quoted 2500 for this
Just make sure you give them the vin# when buying on line to make it compatible
The gravity bleed is what is confusing. did you bleed the brakes by yourself? You mention pumping the brakes with the ABS lines 1/8 turned open...how did you not get air in the system?
I loosened like a half turn push to the floor install a long bar to hold pedal down then tighten the Le and release the bar and repeat a bunch of times to help bleed master also loosen up a little and let them drop too start at top work your way down sometimes easier with someone pushing pedal you open then push down and hold and you tighten then release pedal and loosen and push pedal
Once you bleed master and confirm no air in ABS Module, then you need to bleed each line going to the calipers, right? This way you finish bleeding the entire system, correct? You don’t mention this in video.
@@robertsumner9980 well your right there , I got lucking and didn’t get any air in the system kinda hard to explain but if you have fluid in a hose open on top and closed at bottom the fluid won’t drain out until you open the other end and if siphon out kinda like the same effect hope you understand
@@richierock1300 thank you very much for the video and the replies. Really helpful!
If the ABS is rebuild is there any need for a new code?
??
I just got a actuator put in and the pedal still hard as rock
Check your power supply fuses you don’t hear the motor or anything
@@richierock1300 I do hear the motor
So if it’s bleed correctly wouldnt the abs code needs to be clear so the pedal will get soft ?
Ok if you can still double check the maxi fuse and then try bleeding it again , leave key on and open a line see if anything comes out
@@richierock1300 fluid do come out but pedal is hard
Wow. Thats just great Great video. You are the man. I have the same thing going. I could handle this repair. Especially with your video. BTW how much was your used unit? Thanks scott
I paid 900.00 ,just take your time
Do I need to replace the pump as well
I purchased as a complete unit
After replacing my 2010 LS air suspension with Arnotts Air Suspension and you will loose the sport, and comfort selection, I decided its time to move on with my LS and trade it for a new Camry SE. Great cars but the older they get the more expensive they get.
That’s with anything that’s worth having sir😎
What actually failed in the suspension? And how many miles?
Did you need to reprogram it?
No I did not worked fine
Does it need to be reprogrammed?
No it did not been 2 months now working fine
Did you disconnect the battery from both terminals to avoid reprogramming?
I Will for sure. Thanks
What scanner did you use to get the code 1391
Snap on modis
why didn’t you have to program the new actuator?
Cause I didn’t took a chance and I got lucky
@@richierock1300 so how does it work? do some of the actuators need to be programmed while some of them don’t?
@@jayelking2856 mine worked fine it was a used one
hello, tell me why I can't pump the brake fluid of the inner tubes of the abs unit?
You might have cycle the key to get so pressure in them otherwise need to bleed before them
from the main brake cylinder , the pressure comes from 2 tubes , and from 1 tube of the front wheel and from 1 tube of the rear does not pump
Какой ключ надо поврнуть?
При включенном зажигании насос должен работать?
How much did you pay for the abs unit
Like $850
Good waking
Thank you
44510-50070 is a superseded part. It'll fail again eventually. The right part should be 44050-50170. Did you clean off the brake fluid? It'll eat through that chassis paint in no time.
Still working fine yes cleaned the area with degreaser and soap and water
Where do I get the right part from
Do I need to replace the whole unit? Or just the accumlator
@@angelogreenwood9766 you only need to replace the brake actuator.
So the right part won’t fail again like the old part?
Does anyone know if a 2011 unit will work on a 2008
You have to call dealer with your vin number see if it fits or go on eBay and find correct one or find the year of one you want to put on and have them see if you vin will fit , if you buy one on eBay they should be able to run your vin for you
I just did the same repair on my 07 460l and I put a unit from my parts car 2012 f sport it works great
Hy
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