Classical Pianist ranks Chopin Etudes Op.10

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  • @Chopin-Etudes-Cosplay
    @Chopin-Etudes-Cosplay 2 роки тому +651

    I finally found the answer to what’s the hardest etude: it’s whatever etude you’re currently practicing! 🙃
    Because whenever I’m practicing an etude I feel like it’s the hardest

    • @ValkyRiver
      @ValkyRiver 2 роки тому +2

      Have you played Godowsky?
      ua-cam.com/video/d9VtzVRaz6Q/v-deo.html

    • @paweszklarczyk2330
      @paweszklarczyk2330 2 роки тому +2

      @@ValkyRiver Godowsky's studies based on the etudes are awesome. Because Chopin's ones were too easy xdd

    • @draco4569
      @draco4569 Місяць тому

      @@paweszklarczyk2330 They're both hard, but Godowsky kicks it up to 11 most of the time. I learned his left-hand study on Op. 10 No. 3, and that was a real challenge. It was easier than it could have been because I have big hands and I'm a southpaw, but it was still VERY hard!

  • @WeAreOnePiano
    @WeAreOnePiano 2 роки тому +606

    Agreed with everyone you said except nr 9. That one’s the easiest in Op 10 imo

    • @rehmmyteon5016
      @rehmmyteon5016 2 роки тому +15

      waterfall >>

    • @kieraasahi8240
      @kieraasahi8240 2 роки тому +6

      Hi musicalBasics

    • @tamer3397
      @tamer3397 2 роки тому +32

      not everything is about technique

    • @ulengrau6357
      @ulengrau6357 2 роки тому +61

      The difficulty of no.9 is in how various dynamics are balanced throughout the piece as a whole, and not just in each phrase. It is like a mystery story, building twist after twist, and each twist has to be greater than the last so that the audience really feels the final one... which, of course, is that almost bell-like ending. I've heard so many students perform this, and like Annique mentioned, there's this "fast and furious" disregard for it because it's so deceptively "easy" at a mechanical level. Similar issue as happens with the "Revolutionary." But Chopin was not hammering nails.

    • @GoldenBiba
      @GoldenBiba 2 роки тому +4

      no it is not hard as she said

  • @FrancescoPianoMusic
    @FrancescoPianoMusic 2 роки тому +107

    S tier: op10, op25
    A tier: ---
    B tier: ---
    C tier: ---
    D tier: ---
    E tier: ---
    F tier: this category doesn't even exist here what are you doing!

    • @hanchisun6164
      @hanchisun6164 2 роки тому +8

      S+ Tier: Transcendental Etudes

    • @unbornify1185
      @unbornify1185 Рік тому +4

      @@hanchisun6164 S++ tier: 12 études for octopus being - some modern composer probably

    • @davikersulks9525
      @davikersulks9525 Рік тому +2

      @@unbornify1185 S+++ 12 etudes alkan

  • @JOlsson01
    @JOlsson01 2 роки тому +73

    My daughter found No. 2 to be insanely difficult because it was hard to play it consistently. Some days she would breeze through it, other days her arm and hand would just cramp up halfway through. I remember watching Kate Liu play it at the Chopin competition in 2015 and her no. 2 etude was the one piece she made significant audible mistakes in both of her performances of it. Her teacher also said that you'll seldom find people performing it publicly because it's so easy to crash-and-burn.

    • @goodpotato8058
      @goodpotato8058 Рік тому +5

      Technically, Op10 no2 is super difficult. But Musically, it’s easy 😂

    • @gabeabrio5578
      @gabeabrio5578 6 місяців тому +1

      flashbacks to that one woman at the chopin competition

    • @hanjustin444
      @hanjustin444 5 місяців тому

      Yeah and the non-classical audience is like how can u mess up a simple chromatic scale

  • @juanferrequetglas4444
    @juanferrequetglas4444 2 роки тому +188

    Actually op 10 no 9 is the first I learned, and the easiest in my opinion, its surprising you see it comparable to op 10 no 1.

    • @MrTalentwasted
      @MrTalentwasted 2 роки тому +19

      Funny, I was going to say the same exact thing. No 9 is the only one I could come close to playing correctly.

    • @vindemac
      @vindemac 2 роки тому +17

      I Think that it depends on the size of your hand, i can see why ppl with small hand size finds this etude hard...

    • @_.chopiniscool._9595
      @_.chopiniscool._9595 2 роки тому +7

      Now this Etude is especially hard if you have small hands. In this case you can’t just fix the technique with good fingerings. You would really have to stretch your hands very far to an uncomfortable level. My hands for example, are in comparison to other pianists hands, pretty small (I can barely reach C-E). I guess the easiest out of the Etudes op. 10 that i personally played where no. 12 and no. 6. Also no. 1 was easier for me, because it’s more of a rotation movement that you can more easily achieve with practice. It’s still hard af.

    • @juanferrequetglas4444
      @juanferrequetglas4444 2 роки тому +8

      @@_.chopiniscool._9595 I can also barely reach a 10th but I doesn't cost me a lot to play that :v

    • @francisjake7464
      @francisjake7464 2 роки тому +2

      Juan Ferre, i agree with your opinion.

  • @teresamao222
    @teresamao222 2 роки тому +209

    I love this video. Please do one for Op. 25!

    • @marjoriesell8079
      @marjoriesell8079 2 роки тому +1

      Do you know of a simpler version of this one? I've searched, but one was really choppy and ruined the flowing nature. Is this Aeolian Harp?

    • @LalzJeNeSuis
      @LalzJeNeSuis 2 роки тому +3

      @@marjoriesell8079 Aeolian Harp is Op.25 n°1, but there are 12 Etudes in this Opus, too. Op.25 n°2 and 25 n°1 are the easiest pieces of Opus 25.

    • @sochalant8056
      @sochalant8056 Рік тому +6

      Update: she did

  • @brownfox1540
    @brownfox1540 2 роки тому +68

    I think its better to keep everything in one channel. Multiple channels will just divide the viewership and slow the growth.

    • @officialgoogleyoutube
      @officialgoogleyoutube 2 роки тому +11

      Disorganized content on a single channel can also slow growth. Consistency tends to be rewarded on UA-cam.

  • @knoly
    @knoly 2 роки тому +106

    I'm so excited ! I think that if I had to do this, I would put every etude in the top tier, each of them is so unique and incredible !

    • @MiloMcCarthyMusic
      @MiloMcCarthyMusic 2 роки тому +3

      Except black keys

    • @dsouzageorgejoy685
      @dsouzageorgejoy685 2 роки тому +1

      @@MiloMcCarthyMusic I think black keys is also pretty good…but no worries everyone has their opinions.

    • @ValkyRiver
      @ValkyRiver 2 роки тому

      @@dsouzageorgejoy685 Have you played Godowsky?
      ua-cam.com/video/d9VtzVRaz6Q/v-deo.html

    • @arandompianist7371
      @arandompianist7371 2 роки тому

      @@MiloMcCarthyMusic You again? The self claimed ‘teacher’ who says Ocean and Winter Wind are the easiest etudes without telling us you didn’t count the actual easy ones

    • @MiloMcCarthyMusic
      @MiloMcCarthyMusic 2 роки тому

      @@arandompianist7371 sorry what

  • @Assassunn
    @Assassunn 2 роки тому +48

    No surprise about the No. 2, might be the hardest Chopin etude with Op. 25, No. 6

    • @nickmgls6523
      @nickmgls6523 2 роки тому +3

      Op 25 no 11?

    • @Asymmetrization
      @Asymmetrization 2 роки тому +6

      @@nickmgls6523 not really that hard comparatively

    • @mooshiros7053
      @mooshiros7053 Рік тому +5

      @@nickmgls6523 winter wind is hard but nowhere near as hard as chromatic or double thirds

    • @williamJ1396
      @williamJ1396 Рік тому +3

      ​@@mooshiros7053 double thirds etude is just terrifying

  • @markus7894
    @markus7894 2 роки тому +108

    I think there are different types of players, those racehorses with fast fingers, or those lyrical singers, or those analytical superbrains etc.. For each of them the difficulty ranking will be different, also depending on hand size or even the circumference of your fingers (I knew a professional pianist who couldn't put his fingers on the white key between two black keys, that's why he needed to play them turned laterally or outside of the black keys).
    During my studies, my professor told me that Chopin etudes always go to the limits for everyone. However, after 20 years of living with them, I have now a completely different opinion: There is always one specific simple technical cell out of which every etude is made, and which is then exercised in all variances. This one cell is very physiologic, and they all help make your hand more relaxed, more balanced, and more flexible. Once you understood how to master this one cell, you'll know how to play the rest of the same etude. If you encounter bars where you think that the cell needs to be changed, it might direct you to the actual way how to play the whole etude. It is from the easy bars that you learn how to play the difficult ones, but also vice versa. For example, in Op 10no1, the bars between e-flat minor and A major seem to be tricky for every pianist, but once you know how to do them (with the original and not the alternative fingerings!), the whole etude suddenly makes more sense. For me, these 24 etudes are the holy book of hand physiology!

    • @king_leo3269
      @king_leo3269 2 роки тому +2

      Could you explain how applies to Op.10 No.3?

    • @randomchannel-px6ho
      @randomchannel-px6ho 2 роки тому +4

      While I generally agree, I wouldn't trivializes many the smaller difficulties found throughout the etudes. For example Op. 10 No. 1 the general theme is wide arpeggios and smooth phrasing of those arpeggios, but sometimes the pinky and the ring finger need to stretch only step, sometimes a third, sometimes a 4th! (I hate bar 11 so much even though I can stretch an 11th because that pinky stretch is just agony), and there's many moments when Chopin abandons the wide chord voicing for a little tiny run that helps to set up the hand positions for the next chord.

    • @markus7894
      @markus7894 2 роки тому +1

      @@king_leo3269 I have not worked this one, only sight-read. However, I guess, the virtuoso chromatic part with the double chords in both hands uses such a cell. There are different ways to play them but when trying, it seemed to me that they were best done by using a heavy-light alternation, with the first chord under the slur heavy and the second chord light (_ v _ v _ v etc.). However, the "heavy" chord is not played with a wrist-down movement, but with a wrist-up movement into a stable bridge of the knuckles, as if showing the ring on the 4th finger to the roof. The second chord is then played like discharging the weight and completely relaxing the fingers (almost no finger activity) while letting the wrist go down to be prepared for the next "heavy" chord. Once you have felt this basic movement, you can use it in many other pieces, for example, op 25 no 3 or op 25 no 11 (the basic movement of the right hand without the rotation).

    • @markus7894
      @markus7894 2 роки тому +1

      @@randomchannel-px6ho I didn't want to say it is trivial ;-). What I mean is that the same basic movement is always the key. What you describe of the changing and larger span for the 4-5 fingers is part of the variation of the basic element, however, the movement is always the same. I have large hands, I can span a C-f, but for example, in op10 no 1, the main difficulty for me was not to get stuck on the thumb, which then cramps inwards and creates tension in the whole hand. One needs to swiftly come off the thumb and get the hand moved into the air in order to play the other 3 notes. Now I play the thumb lifting the basal carpo-metacarpal up while relaxing it, in order to then concentrate on the last of the 4 16th notes as an upbeat to the accented first in the 5the finger. That upbeat 16th note is in the 3rd or 4th finger and needs to sink down into the 5th finger (actually one plays not 1-2-3-4 but rather 4-5-1-2 or _ | _ v v _ | _ v v etc. (_ = down and v = up). So you play a bow-like movement from the thumb to the 5th finger which goes clockwise when ascending and anticlockwise then descending. Honestly, this took me many trials over the years, it was always difficult before I found it. The videos of Garrick Ohlsson, Seong-Jin Cho and Ashkenazy helped me to analyze that movement. Now, after having internalized it, I can play it relaxed and with verve!

    • @goognamgoognw6637
      @goognamgoognw6637 Рік тому +1

      Your description of the difficulty in op10 no 1 rings true, having practiced it for over 10 years your physiological description is accurate. I have taken many different approaches to narrow down what works (i believe doing first what does not work is a necessary evolution in learning this piece), before reading your comment i have been grouping 2-4-5-1 but you suggest 4-5-1-2. I've been through all possible groupings of 4 notes before so i've been through the one you prescribe already, but i know 2-4-5-1 is an improvement to what i used to do but not the full answer yet, so i'll try 4-5-1-2 again. Going down is easier than going up the keyboard. I am doing ok all the way to the reprise where the initial Cmajor theme comes back and that is where my hand cramps up. If i let it rest only 10-15 seconds i can get to the end.

  • @corvus1853
    @corvus1853 2 роки тому +4

    The choice to give your piano a voice of its own is a funny addition and adds to your channel's uniqueness

  • @Cardstacker
    @Cardstacker 2 роки тому +1

    Love a video on this subject! I wrote a whole article on the topic 10 years ago when I had just learned No. 1 & 12. For me, since I am not very good at sight reading and music theory, No. 1 is by far the easiest to memorize, and I have no problem playing it endlessly today but I never seem to get through without 1+ mistakes

  • @olavk7111
    @olavk7111 Рік тому +6

    Much depends on speed. No. 3 and 6 become easy if you play them in the usual slow tempo, but with Chopin's metronome markings they become much harder. Especially op. 10:6 becomes extremely difficult if you try to play it at Chopin's speed, which is at least three times faster than the tempo of most recordings. For Op. 10:3, Chopin's speed is about the double.

  • @caozijia5408
    @caozijia5408 2 роки тому +13

    I really like your style to play Chopin! I am working on my first Chopin, Valse in e minor. A hard piece…

  • @thomasmosinger4588
    @thomasmosinger4588 2 роки тому +9

    You should name the second channel "Spill the Key" because you share true knowledge :)

  • @martinseeley2901
    @martinseeley2901 2 роки тому

    Absolutely wonderful insight into the required techniques and training to produce the desired keyboard performance! Always remember the feeling together with the brilliance is so difficult to master and only when your mind is in the zone can you will your hands to bring to life the performance required!
    A new name for another channel....
    Annie's Keys 🎹🎼🎹🎼🎹

  • @SeaRasp
    @SeaRasp Рік тому +3

    Would love to see your ranking of the op 25 etudes next

  • @richarpadilla1891
    @richarpadilla1891 Рік тому

    I like your video a lot ,i love Chopin, specially the preludes ,etudes, and i have to mention the nocturnes because they are so beautiful dreamy pieces , you played all 24 etudes, you are such a good pianist . I like your análisis !

  •  2 роки тому +2

    Great video ! Waiting for the op.25 ranking !

  • @elaineloureiro3572
    @elaineloureiro3572 2 роки тому +29

    This is amazing! It would be great if you could share your practice in Op10n2. Thank you!❤

    • @veronicaredeemed
      @veronicaredeemed Рік тому +1

      check out Paul Barton aswell. He shared some insights on it

    • @ericastier1646
      @ericastier1646 Рік тому +2

      Op 10 n 2 is famous for its difficulty but after learning it i am not convinced it brings much reward compared to other studies. It helped me to learn to relax the thumb while fingers 3,4,5 are busy doing contortions. It puts you in control of how much torture you want to do. It's not particularly beautiful, only other pianists will recognize the accomplishment of being able to play it. It's almost more of an exercise than a musical etude.

    • @theclaverman
      @theclaverman 11 місяців тому

      @@ericastier1646ree. There is pieces wich sounds way more impressive than Op.10 nr.2, but is not even half as difficult to play. The normal average audience does not have a clue on how difficult Op.10 nr.2 is in comparison to other pieces. Op.10 nr.2 is about the only piece I actually regret learning as it takes many months to master, and after all that effort your rewarded with a piece which is about one and a half minute in lenght, and doesn’t sound THAT impressive. …..and a hurting rigth arm as a bonus.

  • @tubularvelociraptor6388
    @tubularvelociraptor6388 2 роки тому +2

    11:59 I think the word you are looking for is a polymeter. Specifically at measure 9, you switch polymeters to fit 6 groups of 2 in the right hand AND 4 groups of 3 in the left hand; into one measure, but each hand playing an eighth note in every beat of the 12/8 time.

  • @daniloberaldo570
    @daniloberaldo570 2 роки тому

    Great video! I liked a lot!!

  • @ilimentinox6404
    @ilimentinox6404 2 роки тому +2

    Ich übe im moment die no 1.. und ich glaube ich kann sehr gut bestätigen, dass sie nicht grade die einfachste ist.. dennoch glaube ich, dass egal welche Etüde man nun spielt, sie die schwerste für einen in diesem moment ist. Wirklich sehr gutes video und sehr interessante Meinungen zu den stücken :) (deine Übungsmethoden bei der Wasserfall Etüde sind echt gold wert thx dafür)

  • @gerardo4104
    @gerardo4104 2 роки тому +21

    It would be nice to see one dedicated video for the Op. 10 No. 04 you know... For those who consider it S++ 😅😅🤚
    I love your videos Anni!!✨❤️

    • @ericastier1646
      @ericastier1646 Рік тому

      I was struck by her speed on it, she cracked it good. It is one of those studies that are efficiently written for maximum effect.

    • @AdrenalineLegends
      @AdrenalineLegends Рік тому

      I would say S tier?

  • @yhs868
    @yhs868 2 роки тому +7

    No.1 is my first practising song of the etude op10.
    When I started to practice no.1, I thought it was the easiest one of op10 etude. However, it was very hard for me.
    After watching this video, I would like to try to practice other sheets of etude op10.😂

  • @yiiyo
    @yiiyo 4 місяці тому +1

    i agree 100% with this list, specially on no.4, because at 2 years of playing i was able to finish it!! so yeah it looks hard but once u try it, it gets easier and easier

  • @zeltrod3384
    @zeltrod3384 2 роки тому +2

    nice, waitin for the Op.25 etudes

  • @LuisitoNotifica
    @LuisitoNotifica 2 місяці тому +1

    7:37 I was in front of my family and you did this, thanks for that awkward sound 😅

  • @pavlenikacevic4976
    @pavlenikacevic4976 2 роки тому +33

    I think you're severely underestimating op. 10 no. 10; there's a reason why so many competitors choose it in the international Chopin competition. It's widely considered to be one of the most difficult Chopin etudes due to how intricate the articulation is. Von Bulow even claimed that this etude represents the top of the mountain for a professional pianist to climb

    • @miguelcardenas6468
      @miguelcardenas6468 2 роки тому +2

      I kind of agree here, plus, imagine no. 6 is the "same" degree as the torrent etude lol but the rest, pretty much I think okay.

    • @pavlenikacevic4976
      @pavlenikacevic4976 2 роки тому +4

      @@miguelcardenas6468 no. 9 should also be lower; it's one of the etudes that students regularly played it in my music high school. It's also not available as an etude at Chopin competition, along with the other easy and/or short etudes

    • @Pablo-gl9dj
      @Pablo-gl9dj 8 місяців тому

      Have you heard anyone pay attention to Chopin's accents in #10?

    • @pavlenikacevic4976
      @pavlenikacevic4976 8 місяців тому

      @@Pablo-gl9dj Chiu does, he pushes it a bit to the extreme, but it's a very interesting interpretation

  • @aimilize3518
    @aimilize3518 2 роки тому +23

    You should try either performing or ranking Liszt's Transcendental Etudes in this format (if so it's probably going to be S.139 but seeing S.137 get some attention would be delightful)

  • @vorname2890
    @vorname2890 Рік тому

    Very interesting, I did not not know many of this, thanks!!!

  • @hugospitz9543
    @hugospitz9543 2 роки тому

    It could be interesting to know your ranking in terms of favorite ones and not difficulty too ! Very instructive video by the way !

  • @ByNormal
    @ByNormal 2 роки тому +49

    I don't know if you can do some series (like "1 min 10 min 1 hour challenge" or analyzes and performances) with Chopin's Preludes or maybe with Liszt's Transcendental Études, what do you think?
    I could also give several other examples, such as Rachmaninoff's Six Moment Musicaux; Scriabin Études; Rachmaninoff Études Tableaux; if you go further, even some videos of Beethoven's sonatas; Schubert's Impromptus; Chopin's Nocturnes; Liszt's Paganini Études (S. 141 or S. 140); Debussy's Images; Chopin's Ballades; Chopin's Scherzos...
    Anyway, there are many possibilities for content and suggestions...

    • @ValkyRiver
      @ValkyRiver 2 роки тому

      Have you played Godowsky?
      ua-cam.com/video/d9VtzVRaz6Q/v-deo.html

    • @ByNormal
      @ByNormal 2 роки тому

      @@ValkyRiver No, I didn't play Godowsky (just heard about it)

    • @RioPradipto
      @RioPradipto 2 роки тому +1

      @@ValkyRiver lord... godowsky, she could probably manage to tackle some of them but to be honest godowsky's arrangements are beyond difficult difficult...

  • @antoniaerdos2772
    @antoniaerdos2772 2 роки тому +7

    You should name it Soul of the keys !

  • @cosmic_gate476
    @cosmic_gate476 Рік тому +3

    I learnt 24-12 as my first etude. Next I learnt 10-3. Now I'm learning 10-4 and it's a dream come true! Love the piano

    • @RSTDRO
      @RSTDRO Рік тому +2

      24-12??

    • @gabeabrio5578
      @gabeabrio5578 6 місяців тому

      @@RSTDROi'm guessing they mean 25-12, "Ocean"

  • @clairerussell4
    @clairerussell4 2 роки тому

    'KeyTalk'? :3 so excited for this other channel

  • @paulocarv4403
    @paulocarv4403 2 роки тому

    Interesting video. Thanks for doing that. May I ask you what device you use to record these videos? Your piano sounds clear and nice. Do you use microphones together with a certain device? Thank you.

  • @medoudou441
    @medoudou441 2 роки тому

    I like the idea of the 2nd channel , and yes if you want my opinion Piano Talk sounds interesting. It sounds like "Chopin Talk" in the Chopin competition.

  • @noriskky
    @noriskky 2 роки тому

    Great vid!

  • @reval8515
    @reval8515 2 роки тому +3

    Of the ones I've played (3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 11, 12) I think 5 and 12 aren't that difficult, I definitely had a bit of trouble but not to the point of being frustrated; 3 was the first I've learnt and it was fairly easy overall, even the hard part in the middle wasn't that much of a problem; 6 was ok, it's definitely hard to balance the sounds well but it doesn't have technical difficulties; 7 gave me a lot of trouble and still can't play it well, had to take a slower tempo because my right hand always sounds too forte, wasn't expecting it to be so difficult; 4 was definitely the hardest, when the left hand has the faster parts I had trouble hitting the chord with the right hand at the right moment, and the middle section was brutal to learn, the "coda" was fairly simple though; currently learning 11 and it's kind of a nightmare too but so far it's not frustrating as 7 or 4, having fairly small hands (I barely reach a 10th) definitely doesn't help, there's some arpeggios that are a real pain in the... hands I guess, I still play it at a slow tempo though so my judgement might change when I'll try to speed it up.

  • @ludwigvanbeethoven2416
    @ludwigvanbeethoven2416 2 роки тому +4

    the begining of No.3 is definitely harder than it sounds. Also why does nobody talk about the ending scale too no.8 it Is AMAZING!

  • @GoldenBiba
    @GoldenBiba 2 роки тому +5

    In my opinion: ( i played half of them)
    1- No.2
    2- No.1
    3- No.4
    4- No.7
    5- No.10
    6-No.11
    7-No.8
    8-No.12
    9-No.5
    10-No.3
    11-No.9
    12-No.6

    • @joshyman221
      @joshyman221 2 роки тому

      Would move 4 below 7 but other than that I agree

    • @GoldenBiba
      @GoldenBiba 2 роки тому

      @@joshyman221 i played 4 but i didnt played 7 but 7 does not have a hard left hand so , it is optional i think

    • @joshyman221
      @joshyman221 2 роки тому

      @@GoldenBiba well no 2 and no 7 don’t have left hands either, doesn’t make them easier :D

    • @GoldenBiba
      @GoldenBiba 2 роки тому

      @@joshyman221 yes but in 2, you always plays play dissonant 2nd and u should use your 4-5 fingers very accurate, in 7 it is not like that bro

    • @joshyman221
      @joshyman221 2 роки тому +1

      @@GoldenBiba I think, with you having not played 7, it is a bit ambitious to say it’s not hard. Having played the whole set, 4 is definitely easier than 10 and 7

  • @justpractice1998
    @justpractice1998 2 роки тому +6

    yes to nocturne list !! Wish you could upload a full version of op 48 no 1 🤗🤗

  • @bobbytran7520
    @bobbytran7520 8 місяців тому +1

    Revolutionary etude feels like moment musicaux no 4 in some senses, of course rach's piece is much harder but it gets easier and your fingers just slide into the right place, personally that's how I feel ❤🎉

  • @kamilfattouh4556
    @kamilfattouh4556 Рік тому +1

    Best intro on youtube i swear i laughed so hard

  • @gezaradai2958
    @gezaradai2958 10 місяців тому +1

    The harder the better. I have a successful bar and jazz pianist carrier behind me, thanks to these etudes.

  • @GuitarJammed
    @GuitarJammed 2 роки тому +1

    Great list! Though I haven't played all of them, personally I would put no 6 a little lower and no 5 a lot higher on the list (I can't seem to get the rhythm down)

  • @yu-mik6150
    @yu-mik6150 2 роки тому +15

    I am starting to learn op. 10, no. 8! I hope, it doesn't get ranked high😅
    EDIT: It's in B Tier!

    • @martinowl2264
      @martinowl2264 2 роки тому +1

      I already played no. 8. For me it felt more difficult than grade B. I wish you much success for learning and mastering :)

    • @ValkyRiver
      @ValkyRiver 2 роки тому

      @@martinowl2264 Have you played Godowsky?
      ua-cam.com/video/d9VtzVRaz6Q/v-deo.html

    • @6ic6ic6ic
      @6ic6ic6ic 2 роки тому

      @@ValkyRiver Have you asked everyone if they've played Godowsky yet?

  • @randomchannel-px6ho
    @randomchannel-px6ho 2 роки тому +1

    Question - what chair is that? It looks super comfortable and I want one for my office space.

  • @lorenzolazzarino148
    @lorenzolazzarino148 2 роки тому +6

    Can you do the same thing, but with the op25?

  • @paweszklarczyk2330
    @paweszklarczyk2330 2 роки тому +8

    Op. 10 no. 12 was the first Chopin's etude I've ever played (I was like 16 y old). And I think it's one of the easiest and most comfortable of them to play (well as U mentioned, no Chopin's etude is really easy). There are some hard fragments, I struggled the most with the right hand in bars 50-56. But other from this... I mean the left hand movement is mostly very convenient.
    Well, all Chopin's etudes are awesome.

    • @arrianah5080
      @arrianah5080 2 роки тому

      hi! how old did u start learning?

    • @paweszklarczyk2330
      @paweszklarczyk2330 2 роки тому

      @@arrianah5080 I was 9 when I signed up to the [primary] music school.

  • @imuien420
    @imuien420 2 роки тому +2

    currently studying op.5, man... I hate repetitive motion so much, my arms are easily gets tired for doing that kind of rotation repeatly, I'm just so confused, i feel like anything that is constantly repeating in one way always makes my life difficult.... I actually like those "musically hard" pieces, because i just feel using my brain and try to work on the color is much easier.....

  • @fredericchopin7538
    @fredericchopin7538 2 роки тому

    Marvelous!

  • @tree_fingers
    @tree_fingers 2 роки тому

    I really enjoyed the sarcastic piano...I hope we see more of this recurring character ;)

  • @gorana4811
    @gorana4811 2 роки тому +7

    i would love to see a tier list of all beethoven sonatas, u really should try it. that would be amazingg:))

  • @MILLERTRANSCENDENT
    @MILLERTRANSCENDENT 2 роки тому

    Amazing

  • @jasper1597
    @jasper1597 2 роки тому +1

    That was so interesting, could you do it again with more chopin peaces? (not only etudes)

  • @numberoneolive2464
    @numberoneolive2464 6 місяців тому

    Totally agree with no 2. First time I tried to sight read it a little bit I thought it would be one of the easiest etudes to learn. Boy was I wrong.... It one of the hardest if not the hardest out there..

  • @DemonicMeWasHere
    @DemonicMeWasHere Місяць тому

    I agree with all of these other than No. 1 and No. 12. For people whos right hand has more control than the left hand (a lot of people have this) the no. 12 is very hard to pull off. And the no. 1 is all just about not getting tension in your hands, the rest isnt that hard. So i would put No. 1 in between A and B, and then No. 12 in S

  • @CocoAzoitei
    @CocoAzoitei 2 роки тому +1

    Hey please can you do one of these videos but for the Preludes?!

  • @bleonkrasniqi903
    @bleonkrasniqi903 2 роки тому +1

    Im so hyped for this😍

  • @lorenzovillani3102
    @lorenzovillani3102 2 роки тому +8

    I can't believe N.4 it's not on the second spot ahaha, I agree that N.2 is the hardest, but N.4 is not lower than N.1 and for sure N.9 is the easiest of them all, I think. N.3 too, it's too high in my opinion, or N.12 low etc..

    • @yuniasrimaya9458
      @yuniasrimaya9458 Рік тому

      couldnt agree more! but i think it depends on physiology of d finger, thats why she can put n.4 as easier than n. 1 haha

  • @geeempee
    @geeempee 2 роки тому +1

    Great video as always! How about "Tips of the Keys" for the other channel?

  • @d2kinu874
    @d2kinu874 2 роки тому

    I think you should start that new channel and do podcasts with other classical musicians. That would really be nice to listen to

  • @YSFmemories
    @YSFmemories 2 роки тому +1

    lol years ago i tried no.5 and it took me a long long time to get the notes (not even get it musically, just being able to play the notes) and my arms would hurt after playing it through once.
    And that's by far the easiest one apparently :(

  • @mariodingcongy38
    @mariodingcongy38 Рік тому

    You are very beautiful. And Chopin is one of my favorite composers.

  • @adambe1126
    @adambe1126 2 роки тому

    Can you go into the op 10 left hand movement a little bit more? I did not quite understand and am struggling with it myself. Thanks!

  • @susanhawkins3890
    @susanhawkins3890 10 місяців тому

    The first Etude is my favorite!!!!!

  • @markfowlermusic
    @markfowlermusic 2 роки тому +7

    No. 9 same rank as no. 1 is ridiculous, I'd put no. 1 top tier with no. 2 easily. I'd also stick no. 4 in S tier, but there's no way you can say his etudes are that difficult compared to the most advanced repertoire, what you say at the start of the video about their difficulty is simply not true, for example take feux follets as an etude, that is harder than any Chopin etude, you have hamelin etudes, godowsky etudes on chopin are more difficult, ligeti etudes, rachmaninoff etudes, ans then you have alkan and czerny wrote some far more difficult etudes too. That's just etudes alone, too many other far more advanced works to name here. Chopin etudes are difficult, but pale in comparison when comparing them with the rest of the piano repertoire.

    • @marijanrugani5360
      @marijanrugani5360 2 роки тому +1

      I disagree, i think that after you read the notes and learn Rach and Alkan they stay in your fingers for longer where Chopin needs to be constantly maintained so to say...atleast that was my experience.

    • @sebastian-benedictflore
      @sebastian-benedictflore 2 роки тому +1

      Why even mention feux follets lmao? Just talk about the original versions of Liszt Etudes. No mention of Scriabin, Busoni or Prokofiev. Then there is Sorabji, Rautavaara, Kapustin and the composers you mentioned. I agree, that was a ridiculous thing to say. The Chopin etudes are great pieces and often very difficult but they are one of the milestones all serious pianists face and pass. They are far from the end all and be all of difficulty in the piano repertoire.

    • @sebastian-benedictflore
      @sebastian-benedictflore 2 роки тому

      @@marijanrugani5360 yeah bro, concerto for piano really stays in the fingers....

    • @marijanrugani5360
      @marijanrugani5360 2 роки тому

      @@sebastian-benedictflore i wasnt talking about concerto for piano...

    • @sebastian-benedictflore
      @sebastian-benedictflore 2 роки тому

      @@marijanrugani5360 you were talking about alkan so I mentioned a piece by alkan.

  • @mariajosepena1524
    @mariajosepena1524 2 роки тому +1

    ¿Es posible poner los subtitulos en español?I love the channel but I feel like I'm missing things...Thanks!

  • @leopetroni1211
    @leopetroni1211 Рік тому +1

    In the black-key etude you do actually play black keys only (at least regarding to the right hand only). I found very useful the ranking according to difficulty level. Thanks ! : )

    • @ahhhsothisishowyouchangean162
      @ahhhsothisishowyouchangean162 9 місяців тому +2

      I think there is one white key for the right hand though for a chord

    • @gabeabrio5578
      @gabeabrio5578 6 місяців тому

      @@ahhhsothisishowyouchangean162yes, in some editions, at bar 66

  • @user-fk4si8np5t
    @user-fk4si8np5t 2 місяці тому

    Piannique is a good name channel

  • @AdrenalineLegends
    @AdrenalineLegends Рік тому +1

    nice video!!! Now, what did you say in the end lol. P.S. I loved the begginging

  • @jaiachin9579
    @jaiachin9579 2 роки тому +1

    Op 10 no 1 is easy technique If you practice wide arpeggios. The only problems is getting it up to performance tempo - that comes with practice ofcourse

  • @Fill1998
    @Fill1998 2 роки тому

    Ballades and Scherzos next please!

  • @Ray-zx4ng
    @Ray-zx4ng 2 роки тому +4

    Op 10 no 12 is my first etude and i think its not difficult.
    Thats my mind!
    But i can unterstand why many peoble say its difficult. Nice Video👍

    • @jonathanjc1131
      @jonathanjc1131 2 роки тому +1

      Totally agree! Since the right hand is quite easy, after some time you can basically forget the right hand, and after a lot of practise the left hand becomes muscle memory

    • @artrubenkaljund3660
      @artrubenkaljund3660 8 місяців тому

      For me the only difficult parts are the third page and when the first theme comes back, there is a big jump for both hands

  • @pearltheplug
    @pearltheplug 2 роки тому

    You could call it Mind of the Keys!!

  • @jnmusic9969
    @jnmusic9969 Рік тому

    I feel I should mention that no 6 is meant to be played a lot faster than most people play it, and doing so makes it a lot harder technically. Although I do think it sounds better at the slower tempo.

  • @abelxo1
    @abelxo1 2 роки тому +2

    It is very interesting when I see you are going to put new video, I always think 🤔 1, 10, 1 hr challenge or you are going to put tips or any other I love that way. Do not divide you channel. Of course I will follow you if decide to do it 😉 Saludos

  • @shanks597
    @shanks597 2 роки тому +2

    Maybe u could make rank list of op 25?

  • @monsieurbrochant7528
    @monsieurbrochant7528 Рік тому +2

    Funny how you put n9 (the one I came here for) in the S tier. Henle ranked it 6 out of 9, making it the easiest etude with respect to their standards, the reason why I felt bold enough to start studying it (but I'll admit my big hands are a big+ for this one)

  • @wosysongs3398
    @wosysongs3398 2 роки тому

    I love!

  • @Jonnyjey
    @Jonnyjey Рік тому +1

    Please do Op. 25 too!

  • @cziffrathegreat666
    @cziffrathegreat666 2 роки тому +1

    New Channel Suggestion: Heart of Pianism (idk if that's a word, but it sounds professional)

  • @bobomber
    @bobomber Рік тому

    Is there some kind of debate about the tempo for #3 and #6? A lot of people play them so slowly that it kills the melody and I personally cannot stand to listen to them played this way. What do you think? Have you experimented with playing them at the marked tempo?

  • @akiyojp2464
    @akiyojp2464 2 роки тому +2

    Do one for op 25!!!

  • @miguelisaurusbruh1158
    @miguelisaurusbruh1158 2 роки тому

    I thought this would be about which one you liked more :c

  • @ProudOne
    @ProudOne Місяць тому

    isnt black keys only played on black keys (right hand) apart from a single note, which he added for comedic affect?

  • @wither1185
    @wither1185 2 роки тому +7

    Love the video! Can you also rank op.25? And also, where would you rank Fantasie Impromptu on that tier list compared to the op.10 etudes? (That one also goes to whoever is reading this comment) 👍😁

    • @lucid_2701
      @lucid_2701 Рік тому

      I haven’t played any of these pieces aside from the impromptu and 10/4 but I think for most people if you understand polyrythm it would be a B/C on this list? It’s definitely easier than the difficult etudes of this set, I think it’s probably more difficult than 10/3 and 10/6, maybe 10/9 as well? But again if you really struggle with polyrythm but can play fast as f ck then fantaisie impromptu can be much harder for you than for example 10/1. It just depends on what your personal strengths and weaknesses are.

    • @RSTDRO
      @RSTDRO Рік тому

      Probably the easiest out of these

  • @popom1979
    @popom1979 6 місяців тому

    Thank you vry much for your sharing, really interesting ! Long life ;)

  • @RolandHuettmann
    @RolandHuettmann 2 роки тому +1

    I saw other professional pianists ratings. All agree on number 1 and 2 to be the most difficult. But it is fun to watch you rating based on your experience. Please, go ahead having fun...)

  • @cooltrades7469
    @cooltrades7469 2 роки тому

    No 2, was the first that my piano teacher gave me, and I have small hands;)). Yes cramps that's a sure thing.

  • @tobiwidomski3600
    @tobiwidomski3600 4 місяці тому

    ive seen in an forum online that the Opus 25 no 5 ist as hard as the Op 10 no 12. Im a beginner and started playing the opus 25 no 5 3 months ago and i still have a lot of potential for my interpretation and 3 days ago i finally started playing the revolutionary and i was actually disappointed that it was so easy. i wanted to play it all the time and i was afraid that i couldnt to it because of my shit left hand, but it was actually so ez that i learned the first 50 sek in like 4 hours. Can someone relate?

  • @danielvalenciabegazo4325
    @danielvalenciabegazo4325 Рік тому

    Excelente introducción, hiciste una buena actuación, podrías ser buena actriz

  • @Marckianwowk
    @Marckianwowk 2 роки тому

    Hot key sounds great!

  • @kaizupiano7826
    @kaizupiano7826 2 роки тому +1

    PLEASE DO OP 25

  • @tiffanythu6464
    @tiffanythu6464 2 місяці тому

    Etude 10.2 is such a nightmare, I think I may need to clock in years on this alone 🥲

  • @fidofx2189
    @fidofx2189 2 роки тому

    just form sound i like no 4 the best

  • @teembel9879
    @teembel9879 2 роки тому

    After 2 years since i started play the piano i finish to study etude op. 10 n. 9 (i have big hands)... I fount it not so difficult, just for the left hand and for the octaves during the accelerando e crescendo but not that difficult, now i started the op. 25 n. 1, long to read...

  • @sKyyyFir3
    @sKyyyFir3 Рік тому

    i dont know, but Hot Key. I have no words how genius this is even tho its not genius. Loving it :D