Thank you for being so honest with this review. I had my heart set on one as an upgrade from my Zotac 1080 AMP EXTREME! But i'll wait for Vega and Volta now.
Greetings OC3D TV. Tip from a camera nerd, your problem with getting the RGB to show on video is to do with exposure, and your camera attempting to compensate for a dark image. If you had a lamp shining on your video card, your camera should still be able to pick up the RGB colours themselves because they are much brighter than the light from other sources. Experiment and you'll quickly learn. Try recording a video with the camera pointed at the case in the dark, then bring a light in closer, then away again. Inverse square law applies here. Thanks for the great content on the channel, subscribed and looking forward to more reviews.
EVGA 1080TI founders edition here, upgraded with EVGA hybrid cooler. 2065 & 6002 average and totally stable. 2174 & 6002 max but caused occasional issues in three games. Seeing average temps of 53c. Incredible cards.
That lighting looks so trippy makes the card look like it's breathing and the effect looks like its moving in a wave. I've always been a fan of the lightning series by msi ever since i had the 780 lightning edition but this is intense.
Wonderful video Tom! I do hope that they listen to you about the color scheme - I like the MSI GPU's but I'm done with the whole red/black thing. Color neutral is how they should be made.
I'm glad I'm not the only one tired of the red and black dragon theme they have going on. Introduce more colors for your shrouds. I COULD just paint over the red...but....you know. I heard those red bits are a pain to remove.
The final reason for not going *"ULTIMATE AWARD"* is the same reason I stayed away from this you when I bought my Zotac 1080 Ti Amp Extreme just this Friday. You know damn well that they didn't bin the silicon as much as they should have for *the* "Lightning" and that's a huge mistake. I use MSI gaming laptops, they make great motherboards, and I've never had any outstanding issue short of their audio suite for the laptop; however, this GPU could have been much better, especially for what Tom received. The Zotac cards are consistently mauling those numbers everywhere. It's hard to really say ultimate when there's another blowing the doors off of it. When I actually turn mine out on the bench, I'll post the numbers I get here and maybe over at OC3D as well.
The MSI GTX 980 Ti and 1080 Ti Lightning were over-engineered for long life and cool temperatures. They will last over 10 years. As long as I continue to game on a 1080p monitor I will never need more than my MSI GTX 980 Ti Lightning. - - I would like a 4K monitor, however, one 1080p Ti is not powerful enough to run all games at max video settings at 4K, that is for a future GPU.
I like my FE better than any of the custom cards. It's very light and doesn't sag. I've got to admit, this version looks way better than the 980 Ti Lightning.
i think the "deep breaths" of the fans in unigine are because between every scene there are black screens in wich nothing is rendered. games usually have a more consistent load.
KamiKaZe MMO a 1080 Ti is a 1080 Ti. Depends on the silicon lottery. I have a strix non OC edition I overclocked to 2068 boost and 11610 memory. Scores higher than titan Xp (stock) in games and firestrike.
Have you see the MSI 1080Ti Duke card @OC3D TV, That is supposed to be the alternative to the MSI gaming X (Red and Black) Cards. The Duke is more neutral.
this card looks premium as fuck. this gen theres so many premium choices. i got the sc2 from evga but the strix is the one i really want and this card is a good second.
What is the version ? GTX 1080 TI LIGHTNING Z GTX 1080 TI LIGHTNING X GTX 1080 TI LIGHTNING Time 16:52 GPU default clock 1582MHz vs 1602 MHz?? RPM Fan 47% = 2186RPM??
the avg clock dont work right, why not minimum clock at full load? its easy to tell while gaming at least, just by eyeballing it while playing or spectating, im happy with my gtx 1070 never going below 2000mhz, have to be at 2050mhz at max boost to be able to do that because the shit clocks itself down at 75c...
And I thought my Strix 1080 Ti was beautiful... Damn, if only all my components weren't Asus. The Lightning needed to come to market a month or so ago, then I would've gone this route.
You don't need 3x 8 pin's even for the most hardcore overclocks! Take the EVGA GTX1080ti Kingpin for example, probably the most powerful 1080 ti, it only has 2x 8 pins and its purpose is extreme overclocking. This is all just a gimmick!
I think its more about the phase side of things. Having tested the strix and MSI gaming X (both 2x 8pin) they both ran out of max power and down clocked when maximum voltage was applied.
not anymore with these overkill AIB cards for both pascal and previously, maxwell. better spend a $50 premium than need to buy a e-power board to have to solder it on the pcb. to hear kingpin explain (jay2cent interview), the evga card, the KPE has the power delivery components that you would find on a e-power board.
ummm...why do they have heat pads contacting to nowhere on the VRM components? what is the point of that? There is no contact plate on the main heatsink to touch those pads that are exposed above the lower heat shield.
24 pin power ... at this point they should just add a dedicated PSU. My case is enough of a mess with 12 pins. How hard would it be to add a power block with input on the side plate.
Hi Tom! I have recieved one of this beast yesterday. I'd like to change the colours and effects on the leds. I downloaded the latest mystic lights app, but it not open at all,no error message nothing. I switched off nod32,still the same issue. I've got R5E mobo + 5960X cpu,win10 64bit. I tried with latest nvidia driver,i tgried some older version nv drivers also. Still the same issue. Mystic lights app not open at all. I did re-install many times the app. Do you have any idea how can i fix this ? Is that app working with yours ?
hi I am redoing a 1080 ti lighning could you tell me the thickness of the thermal pads present on the card? On your video I see that there are different thicknesses. Thank you for your answer
Why does PEOPLE hate noise on a CARD like this ? Do you Drive a SILENT SPORTS CAR now ? Honestly I would rather hit 100% fan speed. The sound it makes makes me FEEL like FCK YEAH! Bonus part is you get the MAX SPEED of the Card ! 50c and above will SURELY make a SPIKE 43c below temp will remove that spikes and will get you the highest stable clock you can get.
FINALLY NO RED!!!! Now there closing in on Galax Cool Factor......just need the speed up to over 2k and maybe offer a white version like Galax does and I bet it would have a HUGE demand!! Ps Tom on the MSI logo decals on the front when its plugged into the MoBo you were hoping on for decals of the same matching colors ro make it look perfect......to bed honest I would have rather seen that be RGB but both the Back ground and the Actual "MSI" letters, I think if they did that and it was either white or the over 2k spec I would be like you in saying its almost impossible to NOT give it a 100 perfect score then .......Hey MSI Version B maybe....lol also maybe 100 off price too its so late hell you can buy the 1080 gaming z for 550 some time so you might have priced it to just sit on the shelf's ! TOM get this .....lol.... The msi 980ti Lightning pricing is all over the place.... want too hear duhhhhhhh in pricing its on sale on ebay and others as of me typing this for between $450.00 to $1100.00 THATS Obsurd that people are 1 that greedy and 2 that dumb to pay that price........you would be smarter to buy a 1080ti if you were dumb enough to pay the 1100 and up price!
Hey everyone ! I have a question. Maybe someone can help me. I have 1080 Ti Ligtning Z, and when I put it to LN2 Bios, I' ve noticed that I can use extended mode in MSI Afterburner. When I did it, it seems there is unlocked voltage, not in percent, but mv. Maximum is 1162 mv to the core. Is it possible that MSI have unlocked the core? Is it safe to use it? Because I afraid a little ..
When compared with other manufacturers, MSI is always lacking quality wise. As it seems, their goal since early 2000s is to provide less quality than others. Flashy things, and that is it.
Please, if this grabs your attention. No one else has even made mention of this, but when on earth do these come out for various regions and what price MSRP? Is this going to be another instance of waiting months after review samples have been seen? It would be pretty bad if nVidia announces the Volta line during Siggraph at the end of July along with AMD's Vega RX gaming line of GPUs.
Sorry but I shouldn't be using stickers to change the "theme" of a $800+USD GPU. The cooler aesthetics (excluding the RGB which is nice) is extremely boring.
This is pure GPU Porn Tom, thanks... I'm in the market for a 1080ti and I thought I'd be getting this one until I seen it needs 3x8 pin connections. I'd have to purchase a new PSU also if I bought this which would push the price up that bit too much. Daaammm!! Looks like either the Strix or Auras. Which one is best for temps and noise Tom, I just can't decide.
Andrew Yeah the Strix looks like a good card, I am tempted by the Auras extreme as I'm playing a lot of VR and it has very good options for HDMI slots combined with DVI. But yeah I do also like the Strix....daammmm it!!.
I just love these videos arent 5 minutes rushed reviews with uninteresting cut-short info.
This is thorough!
Thank you
Youre welcome - thank you :)
yeeh talking over 10min about stickers user manual etc.. inside box is intresting
maniu that's the charm. Make you feel good about your purchase.
Mikkel H They are way too long honestly. Love the reviewer tho
Tom! this is John from msi,. just about to watch the video.. and remember! whatever you do, DON'T take the card apart. cheers mate. lol
*proceeds to take the card apart.* dammit tom.
Good joke. You knew he would disassemble it!
try me
8:14 "maybe your granny has died" fucking lol
That was a terrible thing for him to say. wtf?
Thank you for being so honest with this review. I had my heart set on one as an upgrade from my Zotac 1080 AMP EXTREME! But i'll wait for Vega and Volta now.
Listening Tom ramble about video cards at 2am. The best, keep on rocking!
Greetings OC3D TV. Tip from a camera nerd, your problem with getting the RGB to show on video is to do with exposure, and your camera attempting to compensate for a dark image. If you had a lamp shining on your video card, your camera should still be able to pick up the RGB colours themselves because they are much brighter than the light from other sources. Experiment and you'll quickly learn. Try recording a video with the camera pointed at the case in the dark, then bring a light in closer, then away again. Inverse square law applies here. Thanks for the great content on the channel, subscribed and looking forward to more reviews.
11:16 OMG ! ... NEVER pull on the wires ! only pull on the connector it self !!
if you can't grab it , use a plier !
EVGA 1080TI founders edition here, upgraded with EVGA hybrid cooler.
2065 & 6002 average and totally stable.
2174 & 6002 max but caused occasional issues in three games.
Seeing average temps of 53c.
Incredible cards.
The ends of those meter leads should pop off. the "tip condoms" are so you don't short anything out in close quarters. Excellent coverage as always.
That lighting looks so trippy makes the card look like it's breathing and the effect looks like its moving in a wave. I've always been a fan of the lightning series by msi ever since i had the 780 lightning edition but this is intense.
Mine is coming tomorrow. Thank you for honest review .
love how you strip down regardless of being asked not to hehe keep it up fella :D
Wonderful video Tom! I do hope that they listen to you about the color scheme - I like the MSI GPU's but I'm done with the whole red/black thing. Color neutral is how they should be made.
Tony I'm just curious, what's the asic quality?
Damn I've been waiting for this!
Great video TTL!
I'm glad I'm not the only one tired of the red and black dragon theme they have going on. Introduce more colors for your shrouds. I COULD just paint over the red...but....you know. I heard those red bits are a pain to remove.
That F-35 logo :D
F-35 "Lightning"
I miss the binned cards. Back when zotac used to cherry pick amp extreme cards I had a gtx 670 that did 1397mhz core. Absolutely insane for a 670.
4K HDR video camera might help with the color accuracy?
The final reason for not going *"ULTIMATE AWARD"* is the same reason I stayed away from this you when I bought my Zotac 1080 Ti Amp Extreme just this Friday.
You know damn well that they didn't bin the silicon as much as they should have for *the* "Lightning" and that's a huge mistake. I use MSI gaming laptops, they make great motherboards, and I've never had any outstanding issue short of their audio suite for the laptop; however, this GPU could have been much better, especially for what Tom received. The Zotac cards are consistently mauling those numbers everywhere. It's hard to really say ultimate when there's another blowing the doors off of it.
When I actually turn mine out on the bench, I'll post the numbers I get here and maybe over at OC3D as well.
I can't believe I'm getting this card next Friday
I love this video this helped me out a lot. I may consider getting this one, thank you.
You havnt tested EVGA 1080 Ti FTW3????
Theyve not sent me one no.... Ive probably reviewed more Ti's than most anyways!
zerocool They're basically all the same anyway
Until I get my own, I'd like to see all the review videos I can that's all.
The MSI GTX 980 Ti and 1080 Ti Lightning were over-engineered for long life and cool temperatures. They will last over 10 years. As long as I continue to game on a 1080p monitor I will never need more than my MSI GTX 980 Ti Lightning. - - I would like a 4K monitor, however, one 1080p Ti is not powerful enough to run all games at max video settings at 4K, that is for a future GPU.
I have the 1080ti Gaming x TRIO , it looks almost the same , but it cools even better !
It's heavy, did it stay straight when plugged in for a while?
I like my FE better than any of the custom cards. It's very light and doesn't sag. I've got to admit, this version looks way better than the 980 Ti Lightning.
i think the "deep breaths" of the fans in unigine are because between every scene there are black screens in wich nothing is rendered. games usually have a more consistent load.
what a beautiful card, which one is faster, this one or the other MSI the Gamer X Ti?
KamiKaZe MMO a 1080 Ti is a 1080 Ti. Depends on the silicon lottery. I have a strix non OC edition I overclocked to 2068 boost and 11610 memory. Scores higher than titan Xp (stock) in games and firestrike.
T I? T... I?!.... Ok, who the hell are you and where is the REAL TinyTomLogan? O_O
Am looking AT the ASUS version of this card as well as MSI. Wonder which is better.
Have you see the MSI 1080Ti Duke card @OC3D TV, That is supposed to be the alternative to the MSI gaming X (Red and Black) Cards. The Duke is more neutral.
this card looks premium as fuck. this gen theres so many premium choices. i got the sc2 from evga but the strix is the one i really want and this card is a good second.
WTF 3 8pin power connectors ??
What is the version ?
GTX 1080 TI LIGHTNING Z
GTX 1080 TI LIGHTNING X
GTX 1080 TI LIGHTNING
Time 16:52 GPU default clock 1582MHz vs 1602 MHz??
RPM Fan 47% = 2186RPM??
Would be interesting to see this monster on a 40db shoot out like gamer Nexus does to see how it does in the noise to heat department
going to buy this card when does it release?
the avg clock dont work right, why not minimum clock at full load?
its easy to tell while gaming at least, just by eyeballing it while playing or spectating, im happy with my gtx 1070 never going below 2000mhz, have to be at 2050mhz at max boost to be able to do that because the shit clocks itself down at 75c...
This one or the Zotac?
hows the gpu sag? EVGA FTW3 or this ?
When is this releasing and will it be available on Scan/Ebuyer?
if msi released this sooner, would have bought it. happy with my Asus gtx1080 ti oc though.
Best review
When is this thing coming out i really wanna get it
How much power does this thing take? is that 3 8-pis?
that cooler construction on the pcb is a 1:1 copy of evga's iCX technology^^
And I thought my Strix 1080 Ti was beautiful...
Damn, if only all my components weren't Asus.
The Lightning needed to come to market a month or so ago, then I would've gone this route.
3x 8pin power is stupid af.
Nebula I don't think you understand the purpose of this card.
You don't need 3x 8 pin's even for the most hardcore overclocks! Take the EVGA GTX1080ti Kingpin for example, probably the most powerful 1080 ti, it only has 2x 8 pins and its purpose is extreme overclocking. This is all just a gimmick!
I think its more about the phase side of things. Having tested the strix and MSI gaming X (both 2x 8pin) they both ran out of max power and down clocked when maximum voltage was applied.
A single 8 pin can supply like 300w or something absurd.
not anymore with these overkill AIB cards for both pascal and previously, maxwell. better spend a $50 premium than need to buy a e-power board to have to solder it on the pcb. to hear kingpin explain (jay2cent interview), the evga card, the KPE has the power delivery components that you would find on a e-power board.
This must look amazing with the gskill rgb kits. Shame I already blew my money on the aorus xtreme :(
wow this is the first card that i ever seen that looks better than the hof cards. new card designs are trash, but this and the hof still look nice
ummm...why do they have heat pads contacting to nowhere on the VRM components? what is the point of that? There is no contact plate on the main heatsink to touch those pads that are exposed above the lower heat shield.
has the price been released yet?
Thanks Man! I have been waiting for this $hit!
You test the 1080ti Amp Extreme?
24 pin power ... at this point they should just add a dedicated PSU. My case is enough of a mess with 12 pins. How hard would it be to add a power block with input on the side plate.
7:22 how can the average clock-speed be higher that the maximum one? (Corsair Hydro)
Its the wrong way around - Ive still not remembered to change it :p
OC3D TV Ah, alright. Thank you! (Also for the great work!). I would just also like to see some "live" overclocking.
does my 750w psu can handle this vga?
How much does this cost?
a kidney
900 €
Hey man , My utility the Mystic light doesn't turn on, Don't u know what's the problems? Also Gaming APP is bugged*
I'm having a hard time deciding between this and AORUS.
Lightning has traditionally been yellow colouring, not black and red as per your comment squire....comment around the 25:30 mark
Anyone know the release date on this bad boy?
im late af but is there anywhere you can buy this?
Hi Tom!
I have recieved one of this beast yesterday. I'd like to change the colours and effects on the leds.
I downloaded the latest mystic lights app, but it not open at all,no error message nothing. I switched off nod32,still the same issue. I've got R5E mobo + 5960X cpu,win10 64bit. I tried with latest nvidia driver,i tgried some older version nv drivers also. Still the same issue. Mystic lights app not open at all. I did re-install many times the app. Do you have any idea how can i fix this ? Is that app working with yours ?
How do i get in line to buy one of these?
That card looks awesome :)
hi I am redoing a 1080 ti lighning could you tell me the thickness of the thermal pads present on the card? On your video I see that there are different thicknesses. Thank you for your answer
In the graph at 17:15, why is the average higher than the max for the Corsair 1080 Ti Hydro? Is there something I've missed?
yeah you missed me forgetting to chage the graph (they are backwards on that one)
Why does PEOPLE hate noise on a CARD like this ? Do you Drive a SILENT SPORTS CAR now ? Honestly I would rather hit 100% fan speed. The sound it makes makes me FEEL like FCK YEAH! Bonus part is you get the MAX SPEED of the Card ! 50c and above will SURELY make a SPIKE 43c below temp will remove that spikes and will get you the highest stable clock you can get.
lal alonsabe its actually rather quiet.. I don’t know what you are talking about.
I do like a ludicrous Tesla as well.
FINALLY NO RED!!!! Now there closing in on Galax Cool Factor......just need the speed up to over 2k and maybe offer a white version like Galax does and I bet it would have a HUGE demand!! Ps Tom on the MSI logo decals on the front when its plugged into the MoBo you were hoping on for decals of the same matching colors ro make it look perfect......to bed honest I would have rather seen that be RGB but both the Back ground and the Actual "MSI" letters, I think if they did that and it was either white or the over 2k spec I would be like you in saying its almost impossible to NOT give it a 100 perfect score then .......Hey MSI Version B maybe....lol also maybe 100 off price too its so late hell you can buy the 1080 gaming z for 550 some time so you might have priced it to just sit on the shelf's ! TOM get this .....lol.... The msi 980ti Lightning pricing is all over the place.... want too hear duhhhhhhh in pricing its on sale on ebay and others as of me typing this for between $450.00 to $1100.00 THATS Obsurd that people are 1 that greedy and 2 that dumb to pay that price........you would be smarter to buy a 1080ti if you were dumb enough to pay the 1100 and up price!
Can't found it in Amazon is ther away to get this card
XXX KING OF THE GAMES XXX its limited to 3000 units great substitute is msi 1080ti duke
aurjun tamang i buying gtx 1080 ti aorus xteream edition is it same power to that card ?
I care about temps 1st. Being able to maintain boost with controlled thermals is King.. To his card is an ice box.
Is your first ram stick LED out?
Its a weird thing with the camera settings - it was flashing
Please do a HOF and AMP Extreme GTX1080ti.
Ive tried to get both
Wait a second, this isnt able to sync with MSI's own mystic light app?
Hey everyone ! I have a question. Maybe someone can help me. I have 1080 Ti Ligtning Z, and when I put it to LN2 Bios, I' ve noticed that I can use extended mode in MSI Afterburner. When I did it, it seems there is unlocked voltage, not in percent, but mv. Maximum is 1162 mv to the core. Is it possible that MSI have unlocked the core? Is it safe to use it? Because I afraid a little ..
Buddy, my OCD is killing me seeing your far left Ram stick isn´t glowing in red as usual :D
Overlooking is probably not worthwhile. You're going pretty quick in standard mode.
why was the evga ftw 3 not in the compare charts... WHAT THE FHAK!
Do u need a msi motherboard to control the rgb on the graphics card ? Need the help!!
No
hmm thatis weird. Maby a bugg in the software, because im not able to start the program :(
Still waiting for vega:(
K-plus tunjevina well it's bad sooooo
I prefer the look of the old lightning cards...
Im bad in english, tell is it a limited edition from MSI?
Vadim Fedossev I don't believe it is. Just MSI's response to the RGB craze
ok, thx dude)
Yup
Going to dubai in a day and my aunt said I can buy anything under 6000 bucks so does anybody know any good build?
Why reviewers always say T.I? It's Ti as in "tie" for Titanium based on the Periodical Table.
Tybok C nahh
When compared with other manufacturers, MSI is always lacking quality wise. As it seems, their goal since early 2000s is to provide less quality than others.
Flashy things, and that is it.
Please, if this grabs your attention. No one else has even made mention of this, but when on earth do these come out for various regions and what price MSRP?
Is this going to be another instance of waiting months after review samples have been seen? It would be pretty bad if nVidia announces the Volta line during Siggraph at the end of July along with AMD's Vega RX gaming line of GPUs.
UK Stock is in the country and just about to go out to etailers.
Thank you very much! Any clues or perhaps where I could find out if and when its hitting the States?
I rather get the Corsair GTX 1080 Ti Hydro GFX fior $799 usd, which I can get with no taxes and free shipping.
how to turn that ln2 bios on ?
Lightning always were black and yellow unlike the standard msi black and red. That was even worse though.
The logo is a F-35B lighting fun fact
I would seriously consider this card only if it did not suck out a month of my household expenses.
Ding ding ding Ding ding
Sorry but I shouldn't be using stickers to change the "theme" of a $800+USD GPU. The cooler aesthetics (excluding the RGB which is nice) is extremely boring.
OC3D, MSI lightning or ROG Poseidon? 😁😁
where can i buy it in the usa i love it need it.
Giuliana Capalnean u can't bc there are only 3000 units unless u get lucky lol
RGB would have been better than those color inserts..
This is pure GPU Porn Tom, thanks...
I'm in the market for a 1080ti and I thought I'd be getting this one until I seen it needs 3x8 pin connections. I'd have to purchase a new PSU also if I bought this which would push the price up that bit too much.
Daaammm!!
Looks like either the Strix or Auras.
Which one is best for temps and noise Tom, I just can't decide.
Strix, gamers nexus has very detailed reviews covering nearly all 1080ti releases.
Andrew Yeah the Strix looks like a good card, I am tempted by the Auras extreme as I'm playing a lot of VR and it has very good options for HDMI slots combined with DVI.
But yeah I do also like the Strix....daammmm it!!.
Anyone else notice just one ram was lighting up?
They flash.....