God bless you! I am an American and I attend a reverent Novus Ordo mass. I also love the traditional Latin Mass. I have visited London 2-3 times in my life and loved attending beautiful Masses there as well as a few beautiful Anglican services. God bless the English for conveying to the wider Church an appreciation of the “Beauty of Holiness” and may this lead to a love of the “Holiness of Beauty”.
I had a tremendous experience in Mt. Melleray, Co. Waterford. I was alone in the grotto that's one mile from the monastery gates when the statue of Our Lady began rapid changes. These were very interesting and strange. This apparent movement of the statue continued for about thirty minutes. I arrived back at the monastery after it had shut for the night and I had nowhere to stay. Very shortly a monk arrived looking puzzled, he said " I don't know why I came out, but here you are , come in". Two days later I had a most intense spiritual experience. At the time (1980s), many groups and individuals claimed to have seen the statue "move". This was happening in other parts of Ireland at that time.
The Catholic Church in Ireland was strongest during the penal laws. People were so faithful there was only a handful of priests in the country at that time.
@liammcmillen100 I too had great spiritual revival at mount mellary through the humility of those very prayerful, holy, hardworking and humble monks.. I pray for them daily they saved my life, my daughters life and many more I know. It was always to there that a lot of people recovering from alcohol addiction would go and those suffering from drug addiction, I never truly felt as welcome and truly cared for in Catholic faith as I have there.🙏
Oh, I love Mt. Melleray! I live in the US but have been to Ireland twice and it is a marvelous place! I got to stay there. It was a wonderful time. So sorry to learn that it will close. I know at one time there was something like 100 monks and a working farm and all the rest. Oh, if only a traditional Order could come and take it over.
Mount Melary apparitions are as powerful to locals here as the knock apparitions are to the residents of county Mayo. My life changed completely in 1985 when I went to the grotto as a sceptical 15 year old during my visit I had many mystical experiences there witnessing firstly our ladys blue mantel surrounding the grotto from the car park across the road (you cannot see the statue from the car park as its lower than the road), the green shrubbery 'shook' and many saints faces including pope John Paul the 2nd appeared over our ladys statue which shone a brilliant white throughout. My mother and I and many others witnessed these things while others alongside us saw nothing. I also saw a picture taken at the apparition site of the statue with 6 apostles standing either side of our lady. I have returned every year since then and seen many other apparitions since 1985. The grotto and abbey are very special places where our lady is still present but the faithful have fallen away over the years and the grotto does not get the devotion it deserves, maybe this is divine providence for the times coming. I will be very sorry to see Mount Melary Abbey close as it is a very special place of uncomparable natural beauty and great divine blessings 😇🙏
The closing of the abbey is just another tribute to Francis and the prelates who have abandoned the holy Tradition and the apostolic teaching in favor of modernism. The believers long for the Apostolic Tradition.
The most beautiful stained glass in the main chapel and smaller chapel.... A glorious place to spend some time in a beautiful part of Ireland........ a lovely giftshop also.........
The closing of buildings reflect the closing of people's minds and heart to Jesus Christ present in His Church. St. Jerome noted centuries ago that ignorance of the Holy Scripture is ignorance of Jesus Christ. Sadly, the ordained successors of the Apostles tasked with forming the people in the Holy Scriptures have reneged on their mission. The so-called synodal way to be Church has replaced Jesus as the way, truth and life of the Church and so the Church has been de[rived of her power which comes only from her Head, namely Christ Himself. Empty buildings reflect empty souls and empty souls give way to obsession with gratifying the physical body and its drive for self-gratification which leads to jaded minds and hearts. What would Jesus say to the Bishops today about the state of their diocesan churches - would He accuse them of presiding over dead churches????
I repeat what I wrote yesterday You're SO Blessed in Ireland ❤your Beautiful Churches are Open and Adoration ❤Wow poor people in England 🙏🌍🙏☘️churches closed🕯️🌹I am visiting Family in Carlow Beautiful Holy Town❤ Poor Clare Convent and Church Cathedral outlying churches open You're So So Blessed ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️the More Your Priests READ IN SINU JESU the BETTER for THEM and the Faithful 🕯️Our Beautiful Lady of Knock ☘️ please pray for Ireland and England ❤🌹🕯️❤Amen and all UK together with Our Lady of Walsingham 🌹 and Wales🌹🕯️☘️and Scottish Isles♥️🕯️🕯️🕯️☘️👑🕊️🙏
I once read about a WWII mystic who commented on the destruction of the war like "isnt it a shame all these magnificent- buildings being destroyed?" And jesus replying"buildings can be rebuild but lost souls cant".
Mount Melleray's value was never claimed by anyone I know to be about the buildings. That monastery (not the buildings - the monks who lived there) was a spiritual refuge and powerhouse for many people from West Munster, from the length and breadth of Ireland and from even further away. It is shameful that it has to close because Ireland's culture has become so this-worldly and materialistic that the (always small) number of men who hear the call to monastic life has now dried up entirely. The only way to save it would be for Cistercians from other countries (Africa?) to come there and keep the flame alive.
Wellington New Zealand had the most beautiful monasteries on the top of mountain overlooking the city and also along the coast. They had another huge convent... 1th century dark wood interior. Really unique, native woods, so ornate. At one time Redempotorists, carmellites and others.. now they have all gone. All these places are hotels or event centres. When i was young we went for prayer in these places....so many young filling the halls to listen to the hard sermons of the Redemptorists.. or filling the SSPX for holy mass.
The holy, traditional and Apostolic faith is a treasure to be passed on to future generations, indeed, but isn't the problem largely that clergy and hierarchy since the so-called post Vatican II reforms have spurned this sacred treasure in favour of "woke", insipid Christianity, neither hot nor cold? What should we expect the Lord to do? What has He promised with regard to a lukewarm Church? The next 10 years, let alone 40 years, will hardly be business as usual. Let's hunker down and pray for the renaissance of Mount Melleray, Mellifont Abbey etc to come sooner rather than later.. Good, keep up the good work!
Absolutely! Le Barroux all the way! I went there earlier this year 💎🌺 Beautiful! The monks of Abbaye de Barroux would bring back the sublime atmosphere as that imprinted on my memory from childhood when brought to Mount Mellery while monks there lived apart from the world outside, in silence, except for their ethereal Gregorian chant. Bring back the beauty Ireland has almost lost! 🔥 The irony of such a presence is that while practising vows of silence the monks of Barroux when they set up their monastery in the 1980s brought productive life back to the region around them which afforded local people a means of earning a living whereas otherwise they would have had to migrate to the cities. Though they might have to produce something other than wine and olive oil in the fertile soil of Waterford fields. Maybe they could switch to specialising in gluten free breads for the Irish (the French don’t recognise gluten intolerance 😔 which meant I couldn’t partake in the beautiful Barroux breads and cakes being Coeliac ☺️)
Jesus chooses His Priests those men Chosen in Medjugorje are FANTASTIC and Father Blount and any Man from any country Chosen Direct in Medjugorje ❤🌹♥️🕊️🕯️have the Wow factor❤
This morning I couldn't go to Mass and watched it online. I did heard how little there was spoken about Jesus Christ and more and the worldly things. It was like the priest didn't dare to speak about our lord. I literally cried for Jesus and with Jesus because this is the reason why we are short in vocation and strong Catholics in Faith. I agree with this video we need to know Jesus Christ and have a deep relationship with him and he is really present with us and in us. If not how can we experience his goodness. We need to be apostles and follow him with our crosses
I understand what you are saying about the building. I truly believe it is symbolic of the dying faith in Ireland. Sad…Yes know the faith and pass on the faith.
The closure of Mount Melleray was inevitable given the abandoning of their traditions after the second Vatican Catastrophe. It will not be the last to close. The trappists are circling the wagons but they cannot escape their fate. If a traditional branch of the Benedictines were to take it over that would make it a refuge and focus point for those wishing to cling to their Faith but that is highly unlikely to happen.
💯% Robert. While you are bringing the Irish up to speed about the current reality (not what is in the future) in our church; please point out the merger/erasure of the parish system. That will impact the agnostic Irish who will recognize 'the parish' as part of their secular identity. Then many will begin to realise how they are betraying themselves and their heritage.
Let's pray for our confused Holy Father. I hope that the future pope is going to do some correcting when he ascends the chair of Peter. Keep up the good work Robert!
I suspect there are more monks and nuns living outside monasteries than in them these days. Maybe it's not a lack of vocations but a lack of support systems in the monasteries to nourish any sort of vocation. Think of all the men and women who passed through these monasteries in the last 40 years or so. How many could survive it? Obviously not many. Were all those people deluded? Doubt it. Melleray, Roscrea and Mellifont are joining into one community. They may settle to live in Melleray.
There must be something in air that crosses seas and oceans because I've being thinking along similar lines; more so recently. We've had several talks from the ambo about the structural needs of our lovely parish. We've already had resurfaced pews (performed by a company in New York in that business.) Now we are being asked for our feedback about more fundamental needs. Before the sermon, survey's were passed out and then collected. Of course there are half-empty parishes across the America. I'm familiar with crumbling once-very-Catholic cities. The ruins are heartbreaking; they are sources of statues and fixtures from prewar parishes installed in suburban churches. So preserve art, stained glass, statues -- mothball the church buildings. Otherwise you end up with the heartbreak of Catholic middle America -- Detroit, Chicago and smaller de-industrialized towns. As you know in Montreal parishes are beauty parlors. Perhaps as a former Episcopalian, I have always been attracted to smaller, more intimate churches. Of course Anglicanism in America has sailed and tipped over the horizon (but thriving along with Catholic parishes in Africa.) These grand plans the hierarchy has for my diocese strike me as both delusion a continuation of the slow death of consolidation. Many years ago a young priest was assigned to saying Mass at three parishes every Sunday. One Sunday while on his way to one of the parishes, he fell asleep at the wheel and died.
I'd have to add the boarding school in Roscrea gave Ireland many leaders, most of whom stabbed the church in the back once they got what they wanted for themselves.
@@thecatholicman It got the result the parents wanted - social advancement. But like you said, we're entering a different era now, the people running Ireland won't even have a Catholic background.
Sorry Robert but you're way out here, this is such a loss, the institutions matter enormously. I knew it was coming but it'll take time to adjust. I suppose they'll fill the buildings with refugees. But 1:10 , I can vouch for that, sadly.
How stupid can the churchmen be? Welcoming him and McAleese? I've said similar to many good Catholics and they all think I'm wrong, that you should meet everyone and be friendly. I'd say if your head is made of solid oak, otherwise treat your enemies as enemies.
It's really not so straight forward as a monastery closing. It is not a lack of vocations. Nevertheless, it is the business of the community and we should pray the catholic faith in Ireland will find once again, by the fire of the holy spirit the vigor of its fathers. What country in Europe has the history of Ireland and its saints through the mist of time. This reflects the falling away of faith, and the Irish looking to man and not God.
Maybe an amalgamtion of different oders could agree to share The Monastery rather than let it close and possibly be sold off. I will pray for it to be saved and kept open. 🙏
Your starting to sound like Archbishop Dermot Martin and talking about 40 years from now and all the negative talk about churches closing. Where we are now is what matters. 20 new seminaries. 15 last year. Big increase. Big numbers turning up for vocation weekends. You made a video about it some time ago. It only take 7 years for a priest to be ordained, in God's time, it is only a second. Im sure Bishop Phonsie won't let the abbey be given away to the government.
Starting to latin mass altar server training tomorrow in London with the Latin Mass Society. Ave Maria
My wife and I gather old missals for new converts. If you know of suitable candidates as a gift this Christmas.
God bless you! I am an American and I attend a reverent Novus Ordo mass. I also love the traditional Latin Mass. I have visited London 2-3 times in my life and loved attending beautiful Masses there as well as a few beautiful Anglican services. God bless the English for conveying to the wider Church an appreciation of the “Beauty of Holiness” and may this lead to a love of the “Holiness of Beauty”.
I had a tremendous experience in Mt. Melleray, Co. Waterford. I was alone in the grotto that's one mile from the monastery gates when the statue of Our Lady began rapid changes. These were very interesting and strange. This apparent movement of the statue continued for about thirty minutes.
I arrived back at the monastery after it had shut for the night and I had nowhere to stay. Very shortly a monk arrived looking puzzled, he said " I don't know why I came out, but here you are , come in".
Two days later I had a most intense spiritual experience.
At the time (1980s), many groups and individuals claimed to have seen the statue "move". This was happening in other parts of Ireland at that time.
Give it to one of the orders that keep the Latin mass . The monastery will be overflowing. It's the Novus ordo communities that are struggling.....
The Catholic Church in Ireland was strongest during the penal laws. People were so faithful there was only a handful of priests in the country at that time.
I’m devastated. Many a great time there with great friends. I remember fondly Fr Anthanasius and wee bro Peter. Devastating
@liammcmillen100 I too had great spiritual revival at mount mellary through the humility of those very prayerful, holy, hardworking and humble monks.. I pray for them daily they saved my life, my daughters life and many more I know. It was always to there that a lot of people recovering from alcohol addiction would go and those suffering from drug addiction, I never truly felt as welcome and truly cared for in Catholic faith as I have there.🙏
Oh, I love Mt. Melleray! I live in the US but have been to Ireland twice and it is a marvelous place! I got to stay there. It was a wonderful time. So sorry to learn that it will close. I know at one time there was something like 100 monks and a working farm and all the rest. Oh, if only a traditional Order could come and take it over.
Mount Melary apparitions are as powerful to locals here as the knock apparitions are to the residents of county Mayo. My life changed completely in 1985 when I went to the grotto as a sceptical 15 year old during my visit I had many mystical experiences there witnessing firstly our ladys blue mantel surrounding the grotto from the car park across the road (you cannot see the statue from the car park as its lower than the road), the green shrubbery 'shook' and many saints faces including pope John Paul the 2nd appeared over our ladys statue which shone a brilliant white throughout. My mother and I and many others witnessed these things while others alongside us saw nothing. I also saw a picture taken at the apparition site of the statue with 6 apostles standing either side of our lady. I have returned every year since then and seen many other apparitions since 1985. The grotto and abbey are very special places where our lady is still present but the faithful have fallen away over the years and the grotto does not get the devotion it deserves, maybe this is divine providence for the times coming. I will be very sorry to see Mount Melary Abbey close as it is a very special place of uncomparable natural beauty and great divine blessings 😇🙏
Exactly. In order to save that church that you are talking about, they should give it to the FSSP. They'll take good care of it :)
The closing of the abbey is just another tribute to Francis and the prelates who have abandoned the holy Tradition and the apostolic teaching in favor of modernism. The believers long for the Apostolic Tradition.
Hopefully the SSPX can buy it!They have Benedictine Monks who would be perfect there!
They’re not in communion with the actual Benedictine order.
Mount Mellary is a special place
Over the road from the Abbey is the beautiful Grotto where Our Holy Mother Mary appeared in 1985 💕
The most beautiful stained glass in the main chapel and smaller chapel.... A glorious place to spend some time in a beautiful part of Ireland........ a lovely giftshop also.........
You are right, the church failed us during lockdown. Times are changing and hopefully the faith will return strongly.
The closing of buildings reflect the closing of people's minds and heart to Jesus Christ present in His Church. St. Jerome noted centuries ago that ignorance of the Holy Scripture is ignorance of Jesus Christ. Sadly, the ordained successors of the Apostles tasked with forming the people in the Holy Scriptures have reneged on their mission. The so-called synodal way to be Church has replaced Jesus as the way, truth and life of the Church and so the Church has been de[rived of her power which comes only from her Head, namely Christ Himself. Empty buildings reflect empty souls and empty souls give way to obsession with gratifying the physical body and its drive for self-gratification which leads to jaded minds and hearts. What would Jesus say to the Bishops today about the state of their diocesan churches - would He accuse them of presiding over dead churches????
He would recognize many of them as hirling's, middle manager's, climber's and seeker's of human adulation.
Wow could not have put that better 🌹
I repeat what I wrote yesterday You're SO Blessed in Ireland ❤your Beautiful Churches are Open and Adoration ❤Wow poor people in England 🙏🌍🙏☘️churches closed🕯️🌹I am visiting Family in Carlow Beautiful Holy Town❤ Poor Clare Convent and Church Cathedral outlying churches open You're So So Blessed ☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️☘️the More Your Priests READ IN SINU JESU the BETTER for THEM and the Faithful 🕯️Our Beautiful Lady of Knock ☘️ please pray for Ireland and England ❤🌹🕯️❤Amen and all UK together with Our Lady of Walsingham 🌹 and Wales🌹🕯️☘️and Scottish Isles♥️🕯️🕯️🕯️☘️👑🕊️🙏
I once read about a WWII mystic who commented on the destruction of the war like "isnt it a shame all these magnificent- buildings being destroyed?"
And jesus replying"buildings can be rebuild but lost souls cant".
Thank you for your videos, they are so informative and encouraging, you have a lovely calm way about you, ❤
Mount Melleray's value was never claimed by anyone I know to be about the buildings. That monastery (not the buildings - the monks who lived there) was a spiritual refuge and powerhouse for many people from West Munster, from the length and breadth of Ireland and from even further away. It is shameful that it has to close because Ireland's culture has become so this-worldly and materialistic that the (always small) number of men who hear the call to monastic life has now dried up entirely. The only way to save it would be for Cistercians from other countries (Africa?) to come there and keep the flame alive.
Wellington New Zealand had the most beautiful monasteries on the top of mountain overlooking the city and also along the coast. They had another huge convent... 1th century dark wood interior. Really unique, native woods, so ornate. At one time Redempotorists, carmellites and others.. now they have all gone. All these places are hotels or event centres. When i was young we went for prayer in these places....so many young filling the halls to listen to the hard sermons of the Redemptorists.. or filling the SSPX for holy mass.
The holy, traditional and Apostolic faith is a treasure to be passed on to future generations, indeed, but isn't the problem largely that clergy and hierarchy since the so-called post Vatican II reforms have spurned this sacred treasure in favour of "woke", insipid Christianity, neither hot nor cold? What should we expect the Lord to do? What has He promised with regard to a lukewarm Church? The next 10 years, let alone 40 years, will hardly be business as usual. Let's hunker down and pray for the renaissance of Mount Melleray, Mellifont Abbey etc to come sooner rather than later.. Good, keep up the good work!
Yes, ultimately Jesus doesn't need us, he may love us and want us but he doesn't NEED us.
Absolutely! Le Barroux all the way! I went there earlier this year 💎🌺 Beautiful! The monks of Abbaye de Barroux would bring back the sublime atmosphere as that imprinted on my memory from childhood when brought to Mount Mellery while monks there lived apart from the world outside, in silence, except for their ethereal Gregorian chant. Bring back the beauty Ireland has almost lost! 🔥
The irony of such a presence is that while practising vows of silence the monks of Barroux when they set up their monastery in the 1980s brought productive life back to the region around them which afforded local people a means of earning a living whereas otherwise they would have had to migrate to the cities. Though they might have to produce something other than wine and olive oil in the fertile soil of Waterford fields. Maybe they could switch to specialising in gluten free breads for the Irish (the French don’t recognise gluten intolerance 😔 which meant I couldn’t partake in the beautiful Barroux breads and cakes being Coeliac ☺️)
You had an underground church during Covid? That is awesome! ❤️💙
Jesus chooses His Priests those men Chosen in Medjugorje are FANTASTIC and Father Blount and any Man from any country Chosen Direct in Medjugorje ❤🌹♥️🕊️🕯️have the Wow factor❤
Medjugore doesn't choose them, Jesus does and you don't have to be in Medjugore to be chosen.
This is a tragedy nevertheless. Mount Melleray is the motherhouse of so many places
This morning I couldn't go to Mass and watched it online. I did heard how little there was spoken about Jesus Christ and more and the worldly things. It was like the priest didn't dare to speak about our lord. I literally cried for Jesus and with Jesus because this is the reason why we are short in vocation and strong Catholics in Faith. I agree with this video we need to know Jesus Christ and have a deep relationship with him and he is really present with us and in us. If not how can we experience his goodness. We need to be apostles and follow him with our crosses
I understand what you are saying about the building. I truly believe it is symbolic of the dying faith in Ireland. Sad…Yes know the faith and pass on the faith.
The closure of Mount Melleray was inevitable given the abandoning of their traditions after the second Vatican Catastrophe. It will not be the last to close. The trappists are circling the wagons but they cannot escape their fate. If a traditional branch of the Benedictines were to take it over that would make it a refuge and focus point for those wishing to cling to their Faith but that is highly unlikely to happen.
Jesus lives in our hearts🕊🌹🕊
Turn over to other traditional orders brimming with vocations... fontgombault, le barroux... etc
I hope the grotto stays. There were alleged apparitions there.
💯% Robert.
While you are bringing the Irish up to speed about the current reality (not what is in the future) in our church; please point out the merger/erasure of the parish system.
That will impact the agnostic Irish who will recognize 'the parish' as part of their secular identity. Then many will begin to realise how they are betraying themselves and their heritage.
Excellent phrase- disciplineship crisis. Saints are the hermeneutical key to the gospels.
By their fruits you shall know them 😢
A small bruised cooking apple half pecked by the birds.
Wise words brother. Too much secondary issues. Fr Clive
Let's pray for our confused Holy Father. I hope that the future pope is going to do some correcting when he ascends the chair of Peter. Keep up the good work Robert!
I suspect there are more monks and nuns living outside monasteries than in them these days. Maybe it's not a lack of vocations but a lack of support systems in the monasteries to nourish any sort of vocation. Think of all the men and women who passed through these monasteries in the last 40 years or so. How many could survive it? Obviously not many. Were all those people deluded? Doubt it. Melleray, Roscrea and Mellifont are joining into one community. They may settle to live in Melleray.
Couldn't say it better myself Mr. Watchman on the wall!
No doubt turned into a m1grant centre.
Mosque
I hope not!! Our government might have that in mind.
Not boomers, Robert. Latin was lost in the mid 1960s when boomers were in high school. It was their elders
I was there, it was so cold there,try to heat it must cost a mint.
Stop you. We need saintly priests and monks. People concern themselves with survival. Priests and monks guide us to the Golden chair.
There must be something in air that crosses seas and oceans because I've being thinking along similar lines; more so recently. We've had several talks from the ambo about the structural needs of our lovely parish. We've already had resurfaced pews (performed by a company in New York in that business.) Now we are being asked for our feedback about more fundamental needs. Before the sermon, survey's were passed out and then collected. Of course there are half-empty parishes across the America. I'm familiar with crumbling once-very-Catholic cities. The ruins are heartbreaking; they are sources of statues and fixtures from prewar parishes installed in suburban churches. So preserve art, stained glass, statues -- mothball the church buildings. Otherwise you end up with the heartbreak of Catholic middle America -- Detroit, Chicago and smaller de-industrialized towns. As you know in Montreal parishes are beauty parlors. Perhaps as a former Episcopalian, I have always been attracted to smaller, more intimate churches. Of course Anglicanism in America has sailed and tipped over the horizon (but thriving along with Catholic parishes in Africa.) These grand plans the hierarchy has for my diocese strike me as both delusion a continuation of the slow death of consolidation. Many years ago a young priest was assigned to saying Mass at three parishes every Sunday. One Sunday while on his way to one of the parishes, he fell asleep at the wheel and died.
We had Vocations galore in Ireland too.
I'd have to add the boarding school in Roscrea gave Ireland many leaders, most of whom stabbed the church in the back once they got what they wanted for themselves.
Indeed so much for Catholic education…….!!!!!!
@@thecatholicman It got the result the parents wanted - social advancement. But like you said, we're entering a different era now, the people running Ireland won't even have a Catholic background.
OurLady has described the loss of Faith in nations and people.
Sorry Robert but you're way out here, this is such a loss, the institutions matter enormously. I knew it was coming but it'll take time to adjust. I suppose they'll fill the buildings with refugees.
But 1:10 , I can vouch for that, sadly.
Is that Leo Vadrkar in your opening picture?
The one and only with Mary Mcaleese
How stupid can the churchmen be?
Welcoming him and McAleese?
I've said similar to many good Catholics and they all think I'm wrong, that you should meet everyone and be friendly. I'd say if your head is made of solid oak, otherwise treat your enemies as enemies.
It's really not so straight forward as a monastery closing. It is not a lack of vocations. Nevertheless, it is the business of the community and we should pray the catholic faith in Ireland will find once again, by the fire of the holy spirit the vigor of its fathers. What country in Europe has the history of Ireland and its saints through the mist of time. This reflects the falling away of faith, and the Irish looking to man and not God.
The fruits of Vatican 2.
I'm so sad about this
I suppose it will become another IPAC centre
The bishops recent statement welcoming the refugees might be a good business tactic for them.
Not for us though.
If there is an 'aviso' within 10 years those churches will be needed and filled .... yes, i would say, yes
That's terrible.
🌠🌊
Maybe an amalgamtion of different oders could agree to share The Monastery rather than let it close and possibly be sold off.
I will pray for it to be saved and kept open. 🙏
Your starting to sound like Archbishop Dermot Martin and talking about 40 years from now and all the negative talk about churches closing. Where we are now is what matters. 20 new seminaries. 15 last year. Big increase. Big numbers turning up for vocation weekends. You made a video about it some time ago. It only take 7 years for a priest to be ordained, in God's time, it is only a second. Im sure Bishop Phonsie won't let the abbey be given away to the government.
Fantastic news, the church brought this on itself, 1 step closer to secular Ireland