For those without Sotheby, Newbabel, There's a 40-pull Golden Thread banner. Newbabel and Sotheby are on opposite sides among others so if you have neither (or other units), then it's very worth. In 2.3, CN had a 70-pull selector for the new units who got the Euphoria buffs (e.g. Babel, Sotheby, Lilya).
Re: endgame, what I personally consider to be "endgame content" are content where you clear them using only your built teams and your knowledge with minimal external factors like rotating buffs, boss mechanics, and collectible power-ups like FAME cards and SoD artifacts. I consider endgame modes to be mostly to test how up-to-snuff your teams and game knowledge are/is. This is why I agree that Mane's is (currently) the ultimate endgame, followed by Limbo (for newer / mid level accounts). With that said, while I understand that tierlists rate units based on general content, it would be nice if tierlist makers can create a separate ranking of units by basing it on each Mane's boss, instead of giving a general grade for units for Mane's. Like you said, half of Lucy's kit doesn't work against bosses like the Marsh, or the new Fog of War bosses (I think the adds there don't die, they just get stunned, thus not triggering her Reaper abilities). On the flipside, I've seen a lot of people downplaying Jiu Niangzi when she's still one of the strongest units in Marsh (and probably future pure ST bosses) and just got stronger with Flutterpage! Also, just wanted to add, since you touched upon Shamane's Euphoria buff, pairing him Anjo Nala (Devibul has some showcases of this) creates a disgusting combo where the whole team can have ults almost every turn, it's insane! I think they use a core of Anjo-Shamane-Lopera (easy access to first ult, fueling Shamane's Moxie sharing passive)-[FLEX]. Devibul's latest video has Tuesday in the [FLEX] spots solely for Moxie storage and crit debuffs. She's not even using her ult to avoid overriding Lopera's ult and to properly funnel Shamane's movie gain to Nala!
@@chuchubag yea I saw Devibul's video but I find the video not to be THE showcase for Shamane Anjo, first he did showcase Ult spamming but on the probably easier Mane, and 2.5 M+ wasn't the best of score. With that said, I am not saying the combo is bad as that's contradicting my argument about Shamane. But the support he used and what I had in mind on how to play Shamane is different. His first video, Lopera was position behind (hence giving them the wrong bullet), but he correct it in the 2nd video. Also in the first video, he uses Flutterpage, that when Ult, doesn't gain moxie, hence allowing Shamane moxie distribution to just distribute to Anjo Nala but Flutterpage probably does almost nothing to boost their (Anjo, Shamane) Ult's dmg. Then in the other video, there is Tuesday for moxie storage, but then again, Tuesday doesn't provide too much for that team at all. Lopera, suppose a AP friendly unit but now took some moxie from Shamane, and then her additional attack granting her moxie is wasted. What I had in mind to ideally use Shamane, is with support units that have strong Ultimate as well, not those that cast forcefields and buffs. For example, Mercuria AOE Ult (400%) is hitting really hard, Argus (500% with penetration and crit), 6 (1000%) will be insane. Then bring Kakania along as mostly in our playstyle, even if Kakania Ult is up, there is no need to use it and wait for empathy to build up, in that case he can distribute to our main DPS, himself, and sub-DPS and they all will gain Ultimate Might, the new Lilya is also very good with Shamane. But this are all my assumption for now, so I can only test further when 2.3 is here.
@Destr0th All these new Euphoria stuff is exciting for sure! The best addition to this team I'm thinking would probaby be something like Eagle's raid buff, someone who can benefit from allies casting ults back to back. Or even Desert Flanel's raid buff that gives away moxie. Maybe a future Melania Euphoria too.
@chuchubag yea pretty sure everyone will eventually get euphoria, I just hope the current OP unit doesn't become even more OP making the earlier euphoria unit benched. But so far Bluepoch is really doing a good job in synergizing the units creating unique team comps... Almost to the point, we can't skip anyone lol
similar pull plan! i'm not actually thinking of getting Tuesday, but i'm going to spend a few pulls so i can get Barbara (i love her design and kit)! pulling for Argus since i have absolutely no 6* Plant Reality damage dealers (not even An An Lee 😭), obviously pulling for Anjo Nala because she's a limited, pulling for Lopera because burn team, skipping Willow because i don't have other poison characters, and pulling for Flutterpage because her kit is cracked LOL (AP + 1 is crazyy)
Yay, finally someone with similar pull plans as me! Tho I'm skipping argus, as I'm still waiting for petrify to become meta. I might pull on revelation of the water tho (not sure if that's what it's called) since I want eternity (for semmel) and druvis (cuz well, petrify + I built satsuki).
I understand about the resources. I am also R15 and lv 60 Joe and I do not have any caskets, it will take a while to even level up Tuesday haha (I do not regret it though) I will prioritize Lopera after pulling Tuesday and will not pull Anjo's banner until I have her and if Anjo comes out in a few pulls I will go for Flutterpage after Willow for a Windsong team Hope all goes well in your future pulls, I'm looking forward to Reverie!
@@Destr0th About Lopera btw, i really wonder what should i do, for my account (i prolly have most of the characters since spathodea and j with babel) so poison seems like a skip for now, but i dont understand whats the value on anjo and lopera (most of content is doable with whatever units - i care only about raids, and iirc there are no top teams with anjo or lopera) is there any team or synergy that works with them? also planning to get flutter in the future, but thats another thing.
@@bejenarudamian7660 I mean if you only care for raid, then currently team is really just Lucy or Windsong team. Then currently Poison team tops Darkness of the Abyss. I believe Anjo and Lopera are more generic and fit into many team, so many there are future team that will feature them.. as far as most content go, I saw that they are widely use in Reverie, while Windsong, Lucy are not so good in Reverie. Reason because raid has the mechanics that if you dmg is high enough, you can keep killing the Boss and Boss will not attack. So the best is to keep pushing their DMG. Where in Reverie, boss have high HP so likely will Atk, and if we go full out dmg boost, your unit will quickly die. Bluepoch is shifting the game balance. Lopera being AP friendly work in almost every team while providing a lot of dmg boost. Anjo can bound to different Afflatus creating different gameplay and advantages, Anjo have very high boss crippling effects, reducing their DMG which means, she a lot is quite crucial in Reverie. Or can be put with team that focus on low HP, like Semmelweis, J, Eternity, Babel etc.
I planned to skip all the 2.1 banners, but I think I'll go for the golden threat, If I get one I'll get Babel because I have j, and if I get the other, I'll get 6, for the rest, I'll go all in for Anjo, and I'll try Lopera and flutterpage
im getting everyone from 2.1 to 2.3 so goodluck for me 😭 (except maybe Argus) but it may change depending on the 2.4 characters tomorrow (cant wait for the PV)
Tbh i'm waiting for new CN version to release and decide if i want to pull for someone, aside Anjo-Nala (limited hunting purposes) mostly the designs aren't the best for me and i'm afraid to think so much on meta and minmaxing account so yeah... but are few choices, at least somes whom can make the content less difficult and more versatile.
But the poison team does not require Sotheby. It's Sotheby who needs the poison team. Tuesday and Willow is already the poison team. You can use Vila since Willow is mental, and other universal supports or debuffers like 6 and Isolde (since any debuff has 50% chance to inflict poison thx to Tuesday). Yes Sotheby is more helpful than ever, but Vila is more valuable to the poison team since Tuesday enables poison to crit and Willow took all the effects from Villa's buff. Feel free to change your mind, because you don't need Sotheby for the poison team.
U have the video for this? Cause I would still think that since Sotheby Ult can trigger all poison, Sotheby would be very effective in this team, however since as a healer, she won't be active much so technically she cannot obtain her Ult that often anyway.
Yea to be fair, I agree Sotheby may not be crucial for the current Willow Tuesday team, I need to watch more video regarding this now especially their performance with Vila instead of sptheby
I would think that Sotheby has good synergy if you can line up 2 ults to take advantage of no-pop poison array. But since Willow, Tuesday and Vila already took up 3 slots, the last slot is going to be competitive between 6, Kakania, Sotheby, Mecuria etc. In the absence of Vila, Sotheby probably bumps up to be priority in poison team.
My bad for putting a link my answer got deleted... I was saying that in the thread you go over, they explained why sotheby wasn't that much used as Tuesday is the key to willow. And then you would play vila/mercuria/kaka etc. There's tons of video of "Darkness of the abyss" poison team on biliblili that highlight this. Search this "笃笃骨手法教学 全0塑鬃毛打600万？全程录屏" (can't put the link unfort)
Skipped Mercuria and got J. I"ll pull Tuesday, Anjo Nala and Lopera. Thinking of skipping Argus, Willow (even though I'll have Sotheby+Tuesday) and Flutterpage.
@Destr0th Mostly because I'll probably be way too broke to pull anything. Besides, I've seen some people say that Tuesday + Sotheby are already very good, ofc it'll be better with Willow but since the three of them are AP greed maybe I won't lose too much by skipping her.
@JulioCPG yea sotheby + Tuesday is already very good totally agree with that, initially I thought it was Sotheby in the treble shop, and I wanted to trade for her and then get Tuesday, but it was Babel lol.. so to play around and test with all this poison kit I do need Sotheby, Tuesday, and later willow (on a testing kit perspective, not who work and doesn't) so I decided is too much and just skip all the Poison for now
@@Destr0th That makes sense! I'll only do that because I pulled Sotheby on release since it was said she + Jessice were the best combo. After Sotheby's rebalance I believe she'll be enough with Tuesday, and ofc I'd Iove to get Willow, but I'll save for a new limited or a character I' really looking forward. That being said I still ned to lose a 50/50 to Babel cause she's just way to good with two of my fav characters, J and 37.
Another the thing is that we don't know who else is gonna get more upgrades since they seem to do a couple per patch. Cuz there's some characters that could have a wild resurgence there too because the ones they did are all pretty good. Who knows maybe they will make Jessica reintegrate the poison team in some way and make her pair well with Tuesday 😂. There's a lot of old characters with the potential to climb back up in the meta in some way, not just the new ones.
@@turntapeover5749 maybe but I hope they have a different direction for Jessica, as I will probably not put willow and Jessica in the same team due to AP issue. And if Tuesday + Jessica is still about triggering poison then their gameplay might be similar to Willow's. Also pushing Jessica incantation dmg higher with each poison stack can seems too broken? But yea if that happens, Tuesday and Sotheby would also work for a Jessica oriented team. I still do think Bluepoch might have a different direction for Jessica.
I'm too new and only interested in building J's team. The Golden Thread banner looks cool but I'm not liking the second side... I'll just save for Newbabel rerun and Flutterpage I guess.
@OverlordMango if you are new, U should get the Golden Thread Banner, if it's the star team, I'll go for TF/Babel, and if it's the other side, 6 is a good choice too but just don't buff J with 6's buff lol.
I gotta say this im standing wit shamane say way im standing wit auron from dffoo he will shine i promise u he has potential and i have him maxed he does his thing fam
Can I get some advice cuz I'm contemplating on getting J or skipping him for poison team.I do have new babel for J and i do wanna pull lopera and anjo. Argus idk but I have mercuria some says argus is needed for mercuria? Or should I just skip J and get poison team since I also have sotheby. And also jessica is being buff in the new cn version what if she synergize with poison team?! Should I gamble and skip J hoping for jessica and poison team? IDK what to do man help me!
Poison team is certainly strong, they start slow since they kinda do fixed dmg, and their big chunk of damage comes from Tuesday's Array expiring, which is maybe 5-6 Rounds after battle starts, so they might seem "slow". But after that they consistently deal dmg and are very strong. But probably get shutdown versus fight that has total immunity to debuffs or boss that cleanse. I do think Jessica is there to make GL pull for Tuesday so Jessica kit will certainly be upgraded to scale better with more poison stacks, as that's what Tuesday is about. Argus + Merc makes them Generic, like they can fit in many different team and provide good dmg boost. But in the right set-up they work fine without one another, if you are doing Lucy/Windsong team, you probably don't need argus and Mercuria alone is enough. Reverie boss in CN 2.3 seems tough and hits hard! Check your roster if you have sufficient Tank or Healer especially Kakania, if you do I think is fine to skip J.
@lalo4087 not true, U don't need to wait Babel, just Kakania is enough for J as demonstrated in many of my video, in fact in the future, I was thinking in certain team comp, I don't even need Babel
Should I pull Lopera? I have a good team for her, and even though she's not in my pull plan I'm starting to consider it, since I'll probably have some pulls left over.
@@kasorin128 if u have Marcus yes, other than that argus is pretty ok as a sub DPS in most team, so it still depends on how complete your teams are now
I don't have Sotheby's, but I plan on taking Tuesday. Then I plan to pull Golden Thread, if I get Golden Thread 1 I will take TF for Lucy. Why I took TF, because I don't have Vila and don't plan to pulls on Yearning of the Water. And if I get Golden Thread 2 I will take Sotheby, what do you think? Or should I just skip Tuesday and pull in Yearning of the Water hoping to get Vila?? For now, I can only pull up to 40. Current team, Lucy P5, 6, Mercuria, and Kakania (rest P0). I have Spathodea, Jessica, Semmel and MP, but I don't build them.
@@keyaru.kyrgaa I would stick with your original plan, to go for TF or Sotheby , but Sotheby healing is kinda hard to use until 2.3, do U have other healer at the moment? Edit: ok U have P5 Lucy, so I am sure U have no issue clearing content so far, so getting TF or Sotheby should be fine
Sound a good topic to discuss on a separate video. But preference now a lot of DPS is FUA, so FUA is stronger as it has a lot of unit, Windsong is FUA, Lucy also FUA, Jiu also FUA
im confused, i didn't pull for Joe yet, between Joe, Argus and Lopera, i like Argus more but for meta, J and Lopera are better... don't have babel for joe (im going to try to get her on 40 pity banner)
@@jochaile actually after looking through their kits, I don't think J and Lopera is a good pair, Lopera kept healing J meaning that J Riposte will hit like wet noodle, Babel is in the treble shop, you didn't have the resource to trade? I really think Mercuria + Argus is good pairing and work very well with almost every team
@Destr0th i was thinking about using lopera anjo nala duo and j babel duo for another team. i started to play later so i don't have enough resources to get her on shop im marcus main, so argus + mercuria for me its a dream come true curious to see what is going to happen
To tell you the truth. The "endgame" content is kinda boring rn and persuing for meta at least for me is kinda bland, i'll pull the ones i find attractive and has a intesting lore. For now i'll go for Argus, Loopera and Anjo But Anjo is only bcs she's limited. I will skip 2.3 at least until i see the 2.4 characters.
My F2P savings went to P5 Lucy and P1 getian, no regrets. Those two obliterate all endgame content. I'm now saving for the 2nd anniversary character. The upcoming units do not interest me at all.
@@ABC-yj6cy do check out the newest content in 2.3, the new limbo if I am not mistaken, the Boss starts of really strong, so Lucy had a problem here as she can't kill them right from the start to trigger multiple FUA, I don't see I saw video of Lucy for those. And since Boss hit really hard from the start, Kakania, J+Babel currently has risen up.
For those without Sotheby, Newbabel,
There's a 40-pull Golden Thread banner. Newbabel and Sotheby are on opposite sides among others so if you have neither (or other units), then it's very worth.
In 2.3, CN had a 70-pull selector for the new units who got the Euphoria buffs (e.g. Babel, Sotheby, Lilya).
@@porororo2023 yea, that golden thread is pretty good banner to go for , even I am considering to pull also lol
@@porororo2023 yea, that golden thread is pretty good banner to go for , even I am considering to pull also lol
Re: endgame, what I personally consider to be "endgame content" are content where you clear them using only your built teams and your knowledge with minimal external factors like rotating buffs, boss mechanics, and collectible power-ups like FAME cards and SoD artifacts. I consider endgame modes to be mostly to test how up-to-snuff your teams and game knowledge are/is. This is why I agree that Mane's is (currently) the ultimate endgame, followed by Limbo (for newer / mid level accounts).
With that said, while I understand that tierlists rate units based on general content, it would be nice if tierlist makers can create a separate ranking of units by basing it on each Mane's boss, instead of giving a general grade for units for Mane's. Like you said, half of Lucy's kit doesn't work against bosses like the Marsh, or the new Fog of War bosses (I think the adds there don't die, they just get stunned, thus not triggering her Reaper abilities). On the flipside, I've seen a lot of people downplaying Jiu Niangzi when she's still one of the strongest units in Marsh (and probably future pure ST bosses) and just got stronger with Flutterpage!
Also, just wanted to add, since you touched upon Shamane's Euphoria buff, pairing him Anjo Nala (Devibul has some showcases of this) creates a disgusting combo where the whole team can have ults almost every turn, it's insane! I think they use a core of Anjo-Shamane-Lopera (easy access to first ult, fueling Shamane's Moxie sharing passive)-[FLEX]. Devibul's latest video has Tuesday in the [FLEX] spots solely for Moxie storage and crit debuffs. She's not even using her ult to avoid overriding Lopera's ult and to properly funnel Shamane's movie gain to Nala!
@@chuchubag yea I saw Devibul's video but I find the video not to be THE showcase for Shamane Anjo, first he did showcase Ult spamming but on the probably easier Mane, and 2.5 M+ wasn't the best of score.
With that said, I am not saying the combo is bad as that's contradicting my argument about Shamane. But the support he used and what I had in mind on how to play Shamane is different.
His first video, Lopera was position behind (hence giving them the wrong bullet), but he correct it in the 2nd video.
Also in the first video, he uses Flutterpage, that when Ult, doesn't gain moxie, hence allowing Shamane moxie distribution to just distribute to Anjo Nala but Flutterpage probably does almost nothing to boost their (Anjo, Shamane) Ult's dmg.
Then in the other video, there is Tuesday for moxie storage, but then again, Tuesday doesn't provide too much for that team at all.
Lopera, suppose a AP friendly unit but now took some moxie from Shamane, and then her additional attack granting her moxie is wasted.
What I had in mind to ideally use Shamane, is with support units that have strong Ultimate as well, not those that cast forcefields and buffs.
For example, Mercuria AOE Ult (400%) is hitting really hard, Argus (500% with penetration and crit), 6 (1000%) will be insane.
Then bring Kakania along as mostly in our playstyle, even if Kakania Ult is up, there is no need to use it and wait for empathy to build up, in that case he can distribute to our main DPS, himself, and sub-DPS and they all will gain Ultimate Might, the new Lilya is also very good with Shamane.
But this are all my assumption for now, so I can only test further when 2.3 is here.
@Destr0th All these new Euphoria stuff is exciting for sure! The best addition to this team I'm thinking would probaby be something like Eagle's raid buff, someone who can benefit from allies casting ults back to back. Or even Desert Flanel's raid buff that gives away moxie. Maybe a future Melania Euphoria too.
@chuchubag yea pretty sure everyone will eventually get euphoria, I just hope the current OP unit doesn't become even more OP making the earlier euphoria unit benched.
But so far Bluepoch is really doing a good job in synergizing the units creating unique team comps... Almost to the point, we can't skip anyone lol
similar pull plan! i'm not actually thinking of getting Tuesday, but i'm going to spend a few pulls so i can get Barbara (i love her design and kit)! pulling for Argus since i have absolutely no 6* Plant Reality damage dealers (not even An An Lee 😭), obviously pulling for Anjo Nala because she's a limited, pulling for Lopera because burn team, skipping Willow because i don't have other poison characters, and pulling for Flutterpage because her kit is cracked LOL (AP + 1 is crazyy)
@@fluff1an294 AP+1 does open up to some interesting set-up, so I am pretty interested with that even with or without her FUA buff
Yay, finally someone with similar pull plans as me! Tho I'm skipping argus, as I'm still waiting for petrify to become meta. I might pull on revelation of the water tho (not sure if that's what it's called) since I want eternity (for semmel) and druvis (cuz well, petrify + I built satsuki).
@miana9193 me tooooo I was thinking to get druvis lolol I did build up Satsuki too
I understand about the resources.
I am also R15 and lv 60 Joe and I do not have any caskets, it will take a while to even level up Tuesday haha (I do not regret it though)
I will prioritize Lopera after pulling Tuesday and will not pull Anjo's banner until I have her and if Anjo comes out in a few pulls I will go for Flutterpage after Willow for a Windsong team
Hope all goes well in your future pulls, I'm looking forward to Reverie!
@@Nyttesløshed good luck to you too, I kinda want Lopera more than Anjo as well haha, but let's wish both of us luck
@@Destr0th About Lopera btw, i really wonder what should i do, for my account (i prolly have most of the characters since spathodea and j with babel) so poison seems like a skip for now, but i dont understand whats the value on anjo and lopera (most of content is doable with whatever units - i care only about raids, and iirc there are no top teams with anjo or lopera) is there any team or synergy that works with them? also planning to get flutter in the future, but thats another thing.
@@bejenarudamian7660 I mean if you only care for raid, then currently team is really just Lucy or Windsong team. Then currently Poison team tops Darkness of the Abyss.
I believe Anjo and Lopera are more generic and fit into many team, so many there are future team that will feature them.. as far as most content go, I saw that they are widely use in Reverie, while Windsong, Lucy are not so good in Reverie. Reason because raid has the mechanics that if you dmg is high enough, you can keep killing the Boss and Boss will not attack. So the best is to keep pushing their DMG.
Where in Reverie, boss have high HP so likely will Atk, and if we go full out dmg boost, your unit will quickly die. Bluepoch is shifting the game balance. Lopera being AP friendly work in almost every team while providing a lot of dmg boost. Anjo can bound to different Afflatus creating different gameplay and advantages, Anjo have very high boss crippling effects, reducing their DMG which means, she a lot is quite crucial in Reverie. Or can be put with team that focus on low HP, like Semmelweis, J, Eternity, Babel etc.
Thanks to dffoo, i always pull planning on team play styles hence why my 37 still claps everything lml
@@SinSiete777 yea most unit can clear all content or without optimization of team comp, so the concern is more on min maxing a team.
DFFOO mentioned 🥳🥳
I planned to skip all the 2.1 banners, but I think I'll go for the golden threat, If I get one I'll get Babel because I have j, and if I get the other, I'll get 6, for the rest, I'll go all in for Anjo, and I'll try Lopera and flutterpage
@@sumagestad4962 sound like a plan
im getting everyone from 2.1 to 2.3 so goodluck for me 😭 (except maybe Argus) but it may change depending on the 2.4 characters tomorrow (cant wait for the PV)
Ah good luck on collecting the poison units! I really do want them too lol but got no pulls for them all :(
Tbh i'm waiting for new CN version to release and decide if i want to pull for someone, aside Anjo-Nala (limited hunting purposes) mostly the designs aren't the best for me and i'm afraid to think so much on meta and minmaxing account so yeah... but are few choices, at least somes whom can make the content less difficult and more versatile.
@@RESTORATIO. Yea I pull mainly for versatility how well a unit can fit into many team
But the poison team does not require Sotheby. It's Sotheby who needs the poison team. Tuesday and Willow is already the poison team. You can use Vila since Willow is mental, and other universal supports or debuffers like 6 and Isolde (since any debuff has 50% chance to inflict poison thx to Tuesday). Yes Sotheby is more helpful than ever, but Vila is more valuable to the poison team since Tuesday enables poison to crit and Willow took all the effects from Villa's buff.
Feel free to change your mind, because you don't need Sotheby for the poison team.
I second this, the comp against the kraken use vila & mercuria, sotheby is kind of ignored once again even after her change haha
U have the video for this? Cause I would still think that since Sotheby Ult can trigger all poison, Sotheby would be very effective in this team, however since as a healer, she won't be active much so technically she cannot obtain her Ult that often anyway.
Yea to be fair, I agree Sotheby may not be crucial for the current Willow Tuesday team, I need to watch more video regarding this now especially their performance with Vila instead of sptheby
I would think that Sotheby has good synergy if you can line up 2 ults to take advantage of no-pop poison array. But since Willow, Tuesday and Vila already took up 3 slots, the last slot is going to be competitive between 6, Kakania, Sotheby, Mecuria etc. In the absence of Vila, Sotheby probably bumps up to be priority in poison team.
My bad for putting a link my answer got deleted... I was saying that in the thread you go over, they explained why sotheby wasn't that much used as Tuesday is the key to willow. And then you would play vila/mercuria/kaka etc. There's tons of video of "Darkness of the abyss" poison team on biliblili that highlight this. Search this "笃笃骨手法教学 全0塑鬃毛打600万？全程录屏" (can't put the link unfort)
Skipped Mercuria and got J. I"ll pull Tuesday, Anjo Nala and Lopera. Thinking of skipping Argus, Willow (even though I'll have Sotheby+Tuesday) and Flutterpage.
@@JulioCPG oo any reason you are skipping willow?
@Destr0th Mostly because I'll probably be way too broke to pull anything. Besides, I've seen some people say that Tuesday + Sotheby are already very good, ofc it'll be better with Willow but since the three of them are AP greed maybe I won't lose too much by skipping her.
@JulioCPG yea sotheby + Tuesday is already very good totally agree with that, initially I thought it was Sotheby in the treble shop, and I wanted to trade for her and then get Tuesday, but it was Babel lol.. so to play around and test with all this poison kit I do need Sotheby, Tuesday, and later willow (on a testing kit perspective, not who work and doesn't) so I decided is too much and just skip all the Poison for now
@@Destr0th That makes sense! I'll only do that because I pulled Sotheby on release since it was said she + Jessice were the best combo. After Sotheby's rebalance I believe she'll be enough with Tuesday, and ofc I'd Iove to get Willow, but I'll save for a new limited or a character I' really looking forward. That being said I still ned to lose a 50/50 to Babel cause she's just way to good with two of my fav characters, J and 37.
@JulioCPG U can't her now?
Another the thing is that we don't know who else is gonna get more upgrades since they seem to do a couple per patch. Cuz there's some characters that could have a wild resurgence there too because the ones they did are all pretty good. Who knows maybe they will make Jessica reintegrate the poison team in some way and make her pair well with Tuesday 😂. There's a lot of old characters with the potential to climb back up in the meta in some way, not just the new ones.
@@turntapeover5749 maybe but I hope they have a different direction for Jessica, as I will probably not put willow and Jessica in the same team due to AP issue. And if Tuesday + Jessica is still about triggering poison then their gameplay might be similar to Willow's. Also pushing Jessica incantation dmg higher with each poison stack can seems too broken? But yea if that happens, Tuesday and Sotheby would also work for a Jessica oriented team. I still do think Bluepoch might have a different direction for Jessica.
I'm too new and only interested in building J's team. The Golden Thread banner looks cool but I'm not liking the second side... I'll just save for Newbabel rerun and Flutterpage I guess.
@OverlordMango if you are new, U should get the Golden Thread Banner, if it's the star team, I'll go for TF/Babel, and if it's the other side, 6 is a good choice too but just don't buff J with 6's buff lol.
I gotta say this im standing wit shamane say way im standing wit auron from dffoo he will shine i promise u he has potential and i have him maxed he does his thing fam
@@SinSiete777 Shamane let's go !!
Can I get some advice cuz I'm contemplating on getting J or skipping him for poison team.I do have new babel for J and i do wanna pull lopera and anjo. Argus idk but I have mercuria some says argus is needed for mercuria? Or should I just skip J and get poison team since I also have sotheby. And also jessica is being buff in the new cn version what if she synergize with poison team?! Should I gamble and skip J hoping for jessica and poison team? IDK what to do man help me!
I'd skip (am already skipping) J for Anjo Nala. Both are beast dps.
I'm in the same situation, I'm thinking about pulling for J that team looks fun to play, the downside is to wait for new Babel buff to use it
Poison team is certainly strong, they start slow since they kinda do fixed dmg, and their big chunk of damage comes from Tuesday's Array expiring, which is maybe 5-6 Rounds after battle starts, so they might seem "slow". But after that they consistently deal dmg and are very strong. But probably get shutdown versus fight that has total immunity to debuffs or boss that cleanse.
I do think Jessica is there to make GL pull for Tuesday so Jessica kit will certainly be upgraded to scale better with more poison stacks, as that's what Tuesday is about.
Argus + Merc makes them Generic, like they can fit in many different team and provide good dmg boost. But in the right set-up they work fine without one another, if you are doing Lucy/Windsong team, you probably don't need argus and Mercuria alone is enough.
Reverie boss in CN 2.3 seems tough and hits hard! Check your roster if you have sufficient Tank or Healer especially Kakania, if you do I think is fine to skip J.
@lalo4087 not true, U don't need to wait Babel, just Kakania is enough for J as demonstrated in many of my video, in fact in the future, I was thinking in certain team comp, I don't even need Babel
@@Destr0thI'm not talking about using J but to use Babel, I know J works perfectly with other characters
Should I pull Lopera? I have a good team for her, and even though she's not in my pull plan I'm starting to consider it, since I'll probably have some pulls left over.
@@luc148 yea I think she fit in many different team so can be really useful moving forward
What your opinion bout poison team is they are really that strong to justify pull 2 unit for that team sir?
@@naufalsyauqifillah6388 yes they are strong but not needed , so I'm at least not pulling for them
should i pull argus even though i dont have mercuria?
@@kasorin128 if u have Marcus yes, other than that argus is pretty ok as a sub DPS in most team, so it still depends on how complete your teams are now
I only hv Lucy team and saving up for Anjo team in future 😅
@@Pjin2D Anjo is quite flexible thou, fit into many team
I don't have Sotheby's, but I plan on taking Tuesday. Then I plan to pull Golden Thread, if I get Golden Thread 1 I will take TF for Lucy. Why I took TF, because I don't have Vila and don't plan to pulls on Yearning of the Water.
And if I get Golden Thread 2 I will take Sotheby, what do you think?
Or should I just skip Tuesday and pull in Yearning of the Water hoping to get Vila?? For now, I can only pull up to 40.
Current team, Lucy P5, 6, Mercuria, and Kakania (rest P0).
I have Spathodea, Jessica, Semmel and MP, but I don't build them.
@@keyaru.kyrgaa I would stick with your original plan, to go for TF or Sotheby , but Sotheby healing is kinda hard to use until 2.3, do U have other healer at the moment?
Edit: ok U have P5 Lucy, so I am sure U have no issue clearing content so far, so getting TF or Sotheby should be fine
@@Destr0thLOL I had to edit it many times because of my bad English skills
Okay thank you very much for the answer and for supporting my pull plan.
Which team composition do you rank them higher? Burn, FUA, Poison, etc..
Sound a good topic to discuss on a separate video. But preference now a lot of DPS is FUA, so FUA is stronger as it has a lot of unit, Windsong is FUA, Lucy also FUA, Jiu also FUA
im confused, i didn't pull for Joe yet, between Joe, Argus and Lopera, i like Argus more but for meta, J and Lopera are better... don't have babel for joe (im going to try to get her on 40 pity banner)
@@jochaile actually after looking through their kits, I don't think J and Lopera is a good pair, Lopera kept healing J meaning that J Riposte will hit like wet noodle, Babel is in the treble shop, you didn't have the resource to trade?
I really think Mercuria + Argus is good pairing and work very well with almost every team
@Destr0th i was thinking about using lopera anjo nala duo and j babel duo for another team. i started to play later so i don't have enough resources to get her on shop
im marcus main, so argus + mercuria for me its a dream come true
curious to see what is going to happen
To tell you the truth.
The "endgame" content is kinda boring rn and persuing for meta at least for me is kinda bland, i'll pull the ones i find attractive and has a intesting lore.
For now i'll go for Argus, Loopera and Anjo
But Anjo is only bcs she's limited.
I will skip 2.3 at least until i see the 2.4 characters.
@@buratto5541 yup me too, pulling for unit I find interesting and fun
My F2P savings went to P5 Lucy and P1 getian, no regrets. Those two obliterate all endgame content. I'm now saving for the 2nd anniversary character. The upcoming units do not interest me at all.
@@ABC-yj6cy do check out the newest content in 2.3, the new limbo if I am not mistaken, the Boss starts of really strong, so Lucy had a problem here as she can't kill them right from the start to trigger multiple FUA, I don't see I saw video of Lucy for those. And since Boss hit really hard from the start, Kakania, J+Babel currently has risen up.
Everyone who pulled for multiple copies of any limited unit was dum af
Cool poo plan
After joe every character so far has been a massive skip
@@alexanderluna4598 seems like U hate the game lol