I have come to this from reading about Dr Bandy Lee losing her position at Yale. I then watched another interview where she was bullied and yet maintained her professionalism. It takes great courage for a shy person like this to stick to her standards ; she has never been in it for any personal gain or to support any political position. Kudos to you lady .
I saw that just recently that she lost her position at Yale. She's suing them and I hope she wins. I also have learned not to trust the APA because of their stance on their new laws basically gagging anybody in their association from speaking out like Dr. Lee has. I have to wonder how many in that body are narcissists and sociopaths.
@@kerryz966 Everything she predicted about that murderous sociopath, Chump, has come true. He is a cancer who has infected all our lives and is killing democracy in America and around the world.
Dr’s have mental illness as well. Birds of a feather find each other way too easily on the internet. 😅 The comment section is crazy too, filled with people who identify with these two. -from the perspective of a life long trump hater.
I get the feeling that Dr Lee is the real deal and that she does care about this society. She is a rare find because she does not treat this as her own personal ego trip.
Given all the efforts made to silence them (including threats of violence) these women should be praised to the stars for their courage, their professionalism, and their patriotism.
frankly, it's horrifying that we even need people like you two to tell us what we clearly can see for ourselves... and so many still seem blind... that's the worst part of all this.
….. exactly ….. unlike physical ailments mental problems are subjective in this case depending on which end of the political spectrum you’re on …. nearly half of the electorate voted for former president trump for reasons political in scope … so are they too mentally ill for voting for him as Dr Lee appears to suggest because of exposure to trump’s demagoguery ? …..
Two, very intelligent, interesting and professional women, who have so much to contribute to society. They need to be listened to, especially in the USA now.
Two brave women who are intelligent, educated and doing their best to warn America against so many odds! Thank you both!!! I have Dr. Lee's book about having a Duty to warn us.
I’m only 4 minutes in, but what a great interview!!!!!!!! Dr. Bandy Lee as an expert in her field (and she obviously has a heart!) and Dr. Mary Trump who can look at her upbringing objectively with logic (not many people can do that!).
@@Astrid-jt8cd The truth is in all the observable data that is in plain view. Their education allows them to compare it to other people displaying the same behaviours/ thought processes which allows them to arrive at a diagnosis. Dr. Lee is an expert. Believe her & believe what the rest of us (all around the world) see & are telling you. He's unfit & dangerous!
@@Astrid-jt8cd The truth is in all the observable data that is in plain view. Their education allows them to compare it to other people displaying the same behaviours/ thought processes which allows them to arrive at a diagnosis. Dr. Lee is an expert. Believe her & believe what the rest of us (all around the world) are seeing & saying. He's unfit & dangerous!
@@Astrid-jt8cd The truth is in all the observable data that is in plain view. Their education allows them to compare it to other people displaying the same behaviours/ thought processes which allows them to arrive at a diagnosis. Dr. Lee is an expert. He's unfit & dangerous!
One of the best (of many) interviews I've seen with Mary Trump, rather than a journalist layperson posing questions, this is two well trained professionals discussing a subject in clinical terms. Congratulations!
This is an extraordinary interview of two strong and courageous women I admire most. Thank you so much. It would be amazing if Dr. Lee and Dr. Trump could also invite Dr. Ramani Durvasula (a licensed clinical psychologist, professor of psychology, media expert, and author) to share her view in a joint interview. This is what America needs most of all: Enlightenment.
Considering that at least 10-15% of the population is a narcissists or a sociopath more people need to wake up to this and how much trouble they cause society.
I listened to them both separately and thought, Mary Trump should get together with Brandy Lee! Not knowing they had until now. Thank God there are good people. These are two brave ones.
Agree! As an only child who lived in a highly dysfunctional family with a father who set his will up in such a way that I would only get the inheritance that the will promised when I was 50 years old. He placed 2 family members as trustees at the gate, so to speak. If that isn't control from the grave, I don't know what is. In addition, my father was an alcoholic as was my mother. I was the scapegoat they blamed. This leaves one scarred and highly confused, full of self-blame that I carried for years. My mother died in 1981 and my father in 1988. I am 71 now and only just now fully emerging from the dysfunction I carried on my back like a saddle. I only began to heal and move forward once they were deceased.
DR. TRUMP: "Very much like my grandfather co-opted Donald and my father to be extensions of his own ambitions, Donald co-opts the government to bolster his sense who he is and to advance his own agenda." This is a brilliant assessment and consistent with malignant narcissists and how they treat everyone and everything in their lives. Dr. Lee, thank you for bringing this interview to the public. You may think yourself a shy speaker, but your vital work brings the fire! Dr. Trump, thank you for writing your book and for being so generous with your interviews across many platforms.
greekgoddessmom And also: ”His unique character flaws make him extremely vulnerable to manipulation by smarter and more powerful men and to get him do whatever they want”. This pattern has been SOOOOOOOOOO obvious from the outside that it has hardly escaped anyone in their right mind. The question is, what is the psychological condition of the USA that allows this to happen - since none of this would be without enablers.
@@jfrmfrjm The nation is in an abusive relationship with Trump---simultaneously dependent on and victimised by him. Those who would stay in the relationship are bound by ignorance; those who would leave, the rule of law. This election will be the most consequential of our lives.
greekgoddessmom Very well put! The forthcoming election is definitely the moment for the electorate to make up their mind about the kind of USA they want - is it a country in escalating decline to authoritarianism, racism, cleptocracy and deteriorating institutions, or is it a nation truely for all its sitizens.
2 BooBs, Angry Idiots that are bitter because they are not getting the outcome they feel they deserve in life !!! They are 2 LOSERS !! Dr.Lee would be Arrested if we actually followed are own Laws, it is ILLEGAL to Diagnose some1 from the TV !! Mary is bitter because she got Booted from (The Will) ! So Mary got u Suckers to Buy her Assanine Book !!
It's nice to see Dr. Lee taking the lead here. Excellent conversation! I always enjoy Dr. Lees' professional and matter-of-fact demeanor. Thanks to both for your commitment and honesty. Much respect for you both!
At first I reacted negatively to what you came out with, because normally, psychiatric assessments are strictly confidential as well as being disputed by patients who have felt victimized. . BUT I realized there was danger, by what I was witnessing in the news.. Then your knowledge became invaluable. I see the professional ethics of warning against behavior you are so trained to detect and protect society from. .
He seems to fit the profile of different types of narcissists, sociopaths and psychopaths in a number of different dangerous cases, especially now in September, 2023 and beyond. The expertise and mastery of psychiatry in mental health and capacity of professional qualifications in politics and especially in presidential leadership is an important factor for any decision-making process, including disqualification of a candidate, voting, hiring, firing, impeachment, etc.
Watching from the UK. Keep doing your thing. For those whose memory of Authoritarianism is a little bit more fresh or clear, seeing the rise of Trump is truly terrifying.
I've read alot on WW2 and prior to it. There are so many parallels between the rise of facism and what is happening today. They would call us alarmists I guess but, I argue, someone has to sound the alarm right? Yes.
Watching from Australia. What is especially terrifying is that the Republican party go to great efforts to keep Trump in power. If no-one with power calls him out, then he is more like a king than an elected leader.
@@oscopin74 You have No Clue what is going in over here if u think Trump is the problem !! The Left are the Ones who are creating an Authoritarian Society over here !! The Left will not discuss anything, u either agree with The Left or U get shouted down, ostracized, physically beaten up or they will destroy buildings or set them on 🔥 🔥 !
Lina Guadagnuolo, Domina Dors We appreciate your concern about the people of our country despite the challenges you face and have faced in your own countries. I have seen more and more people from all over the world expressing solidarity and sympathy - and oftentimes straight out pity, which I don’t feel is at all misplaced - and have been touched and moved by these expressions of caring. I think we are in large part a selfish country, I mean, it’s the ethos here. We forget there’s another world of people suffering from their own upheavals and crises and corruption and oppression and genocide. Whenever I experience, on a personal level, one-on-one, the “kindness of strangers,” I lose it, I’m moved to tears, and the comfort and gratitude I feel from your remarks is very similar, on a different level, but not a less meaningful one. We are scared. We know this man has made enemies of our former allies by his words and actions. The only reason for the insane number of supporters of this thug-con that makes sense to me, and many others who have studied and written on the subject, is a cult phenomenon of historic proportion. It’s like we need a deprogramming system of historic proportion to deal with it, and that seems to be something out of reach. So I do believe in the enormous value and validity of history’s lessons, but there are simply too many who don’t, who don’t even know history, who can’t understand bc they were not taught it. What can you do when the majority of the citizens of your country are intentionally under-educated by your government?
In any other developed nation, this work would lead to either a resignation or removal from office. But here, now, it has had little effect so far. I can only imagine what it must have been like to be an ordinary citizen in Hitler's Germany and have the murder of its citizens normalized, as has happened in the U.S.
In any other country it would Lead to jail, No country outside of the U.S. has Freedom of Speech ! U r Clueless !! Oh yeah, my bad random & or bitter family members write a book & it must be True, she wouldn't Lie, even though it's 20+ yrs. since she got Screwed out of MILLIONS & is still talking about it to a NutJob Shrink, who Breaks the Law every time she makes a diagnosis of President Trump on TV !! TRUMP 2020 !!
These "experts" who have their own agendas - to sell books. None of which can be proven. any of the specialized fields or disciplines, as psychology, sociology, anthropology, or political science, that interpret human behavior, institutions, society, etc., on the basis of scientific investigations for which it may be difficult to establish strictly measurable criteria.
A very interesting and wonderful conversation between two highly educated women. Mary is so human in comparison to the Sanford wives persona the other immediate Trump women exhibit. It is disturbing.
Stepford wives, but a clever comparison as they are rather submissive, excepting Pence's wife who he refers to as Mother, and others have a nickname for her....I think it's bulldog.
I thank all my Twitter followers for sending a flood of requests to Dr. Lee which with the assistance of Twitter and UA-cam put this interview together. We all need to go one step further to secure an Amendment 25 on Donald Trump based on this interview.
GREAT DANGER TO THE NATION GREAT DANGER TO THE CONSTITUTION GREAT DANGER TO THE WORLD This is a time of extraordinary danger to the nation because the man who wields the powers of the presidency of the United States is a mass killer. It is a time of unprecedented danger to the constitutional order of our country because a man with severe mental problems cannot accept the basic norms and laws of civic life. We are in a time of tremendous danger to the world because a man who is demonstrably incapable of serving in office controls the most powerful weapons of mass destruction in human history. We brought together the nation’s foremost mental health experts at a Yale Conference in April 2017 who warned psychological dangerousness in the presidency would devolve into cultural, geopolitical, and civic dangerousness. The proceedings went into a bestselling book, The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump, which accurately anticipated the presidency’s course. We followed up at the National Press Club in Washington in March 2019 with experts of law, history, political science, economics, social psychology, journalism, propaganda studies, nuclear science, and climate science, who described how the president was unfit from each of their perspectives. We now conclude it is our even more urgent responsibility to speak to the nation with a collective voice at this time of unprecedented and accelerating dangers because of the president’s apparent unraveling with increasingly reckless statements and actions. We believe the Washington authorities, the State and Municipal officials, and our military leaders should refuse illegal orders, such as the attempted militarization of our capital city and the threatened military invasion of states and local communities by the White House. We believe the citizens of our country, “We the People,” should refuse to allow the president to advance authoritarian and neo-fascist methods, attitudes, and policies reminiscent of tragedies that have befallen countries in recent and past history. We further believe Donald Trump must be urgently sidelined from the pandemic crisis, which he has disastrously mismanaged, causing incalculable deaths and economic devastation. We urge our fellow citizens to support us in our “Prescription for Survival” -PrescriptionForSurvival.org - to demand that a man clearly mentally disturbed and demonstrably unfit to lead our country be removed from power or otherwise be restrained. The World Mental Health Coalition June 7, 2020
That was from the 37 licensed psychiatrists that Bandy X. Lee, M. D. was the editor for the book they are referring to in their statement below: The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump.
The statement above (I didn’t realize it Appeared above my clarification about who the people who made the statement were the same people that Bandy X. Lee MD. was talking about. She edited two books, both bestsellers, one in 2017 with 27 psychiatrists and then a second book in 2019 with 37 psychiatrists who made the statement above.
2 Bitter Old Crones, each 1, more Bitter than the other ! 1. Still Pissed 20yrs after getting The Axe from the WILL ! 2. Bandy diagnosing some1 she Never met, which is ILLEGAL & she should Lose her NutBag Shrink License !
I showed my 87 year old mother this interview. She feels heartened by this conversation but very concerned for the future. She is right, ofcourse. A psychopath"s ability to overwhelm emotionally often trumps empathic reasoning. Pun intended.
Yup same here then I showed my elder mother the ailicone fake baby doll Darren uaes as prince Harry and meghans baby. I showes her the 10 month baby bump. She couldnt believe Amazon sells silicone babies that look real.
With half the adult population now afflicted followers, we need a psychiatric assessment of them. They are steering the immediate politics of the US, and seem ready to drink the cool-aid. Even if the 2024 election goes blue and he is jailed, half the population will remain a national security issue.
Two of my favorite mental health doctors. Thanks for speaking up. When our democracy was on the line, you both were willing to fight to save it. I only wish there were more like you. 🤗 **Coming from someone born into a family creepy crawling with Cluster B Personality Disorder. I went no contact with my family, got an amazing therapist who specialized in trauma to treat my PTSD and then my country was being run by a Narcissist!! Now it wasn't just my immediate family and their flying monkeys 🐒 but my whole country (or at least about half). More traumatizing than I like to admit, but so grateful for Biden. I am for Elizabeth Warren, but am grateful for Biden. Hoping the country snaps out of this fascist brainwashing.
Many jobs require personality tests. For narcissism there are tests too. Here's some more truth. Not a shred of ethics in Trump. Trump has no empathy. People are objects to him, not real people. Look for malignant overt narcissist on YT. Read the comments. Look for Narcissism in general on YT. Read the comments. It's Trump's biography. Trump's mentally ill. He has NPD. His narrative is confabulating to distort your view of reality. It's what narcs do to make you question yourself or in order not to aswer your question. Inform yourself on this topic. They can be anybody. People are married to a narc and thinking it's themselves who are the crazy one. Kids are suffering abuse every way every day. It can be a co-worker upsetting you everytime you meet. Learn the red flags. Trump's one of many who are harmfull to others on a daily basis. They are devils disguised as people like you and me. No love, only hate. Till the day they die. All from childhood trauma. Their closest are abused the most. So it's our problem.
"(Trump) appeals to others' narcissism". This is not oft mentioned, or not as much as it should be, when we try to understand what's behind the illogical support he receives from those in government as well as his base. Very grateful to these two women for their courage, and their care for the country as they try to save us from "The most dangerous person in the world".
This is such an important interview. It deserves many, many, many more views. As a survivor of narcissistic abuse, I have for a long time been incredibly disheartened by the silence, at best, of mental health professionals on issues surrounding the fallout from Cluster B behavioural patterns. It's hurtful, honestly. It compounds the sense of hopelessness people like me are already so inclined to feel. Of course professionals have a responsibility to the people with these outwardly destructive pathologies, and a lot of the time, there shouldn't be any reason to overrule that responsibility. But sometimes the risk of collateral damage is too great, and I wish the APA would take that seriously. If all goes well, I'll be joining the mental health profession in the near future and I fully intend to lend my voice to this gaping area of neglect in the field.
This is without doubt the best incite into the mental disorder that is donald trump I have ever seen. Dr Lee is brilliant and Mary really expanded on the various disorders trump is suffering from, not just the Delusional Sociopath diagnosis
Talk about holier than thou. Here is one woman that nobody is going to. ‘Shut up’. Donald Trump is the most vile human on this earth today. His gross stupidity and malignant narcissism could destroy us all and with nuclear weapons in the hands of powerful men the earth too. It doesn’t matter if sentence construction and spelling and so on aren’t perfect. Nuclear radiation doesn’t distinguish. 😅
Great interview, though I wish it were longer in probing all the issues raised. Hope there will be follow-up interviews/conversations between these two experts to shed more light on this serious challenge we face. Kudos for your courage to speak out.
Thank you for this conversation. Very helpful. I hope both of you keep talking to us and recording videos like this. We need your continued input. Thank you.
Thank you we need to hear more voices of reasoning we as patient/therapist need to speak up loudly against the stigma attached to mental health. Some of us are sicker than others.
Thank you, Dr. Lee. Your courage in the face of professional, public, and personal adversity is remarkable. You are truly a light in the darkest of times.🫶
When I worked in a few prisons, people were there for life for one murder. Trump has killed 200,000 by his inept COVID 19 response, and is still jetting about to hate fests and golf holidays.
Hope you read my opinion of your opinion The many dead COVID victims is a serious example of Trump's competence as a president How dare he have the shit for brains to forgive himself and continue his evil disease destroying of America and the world.
Mary , I have the upmost respect for you. I thank you for all of your knowledge that you have helped all of us with especially with the COVID deaths such a terrible thing and then receiving false information on top of it from former president trump. Once again you are fighting for what is morally right and I commend you for your professional help. Thank You
Such an important conversation. I wish it had been a couple of hours and they had talked in more detail. Please do another one and put it on MSNBC etc.
Mary I didnt realize you had interviewed her. You both make a wonderful team. Besides her getting it and helping support your feeling crazy did this also break you down and allow yourself to heal? Great interview. We all need to understand this trump contagion. It helps us to understand. While this focus's on the MAGA contagion I would love to hear more about us....critical thinkers with discernemnt. Oh wow she interviewed you...lol. I didnt realize thank you both!!
In Trumps book "Sucess 101", Donald Trump said that people like me deserve a corner office. I knew he was fibbing, but it it still put good ideas in my head.
I don't even know what to say. The 'mental capacity' concept--or lack thereof is---I can only think of how. naming the thing--mental capacity, and Trump's deficit there, cements all those little floating hints and suspicions that he's a loose cannon and dangerous. How was this interview NOT circulated widely two years ago.
Dr Lee , How does it feel , to know you are yet again watching the American public walking into the chopper blades , in the name of political and media based profit ?? I love you and your never give up attitude since 2016 . It's a shame that I feel so very alone in this respect . A lot of my family and friends are not as lucky ....
Listen to ALL the previous people that have been tormented by him and his personality disorders. The people of n.y. state, not just the city, have to say about why they did not vote for him. What is wrong with his supporters? Daddy issues? Blind deaf and dumb? God help us.
My mother grew up in Nazi Germany. The similarities between the rise of the Trump cult and his enablers and what happened in Germany is very sad and dangerous.
Having been born in Amsterdam in 1943, and suffered many direct and indirect consequences of the German occupation, I can relate very well, and have studied WW2, and pre WW2 phenomenon as a whole for many years. I wholeheartedly agree with the similarities, and the clear dangers.
Yes Mr. Walter. I share your your thoughts. Even I'm born ten years later, I see repitation... The start of banning books and and and ~ Let's hope, he doesn't come again!
I don’t think it’s lack of access to expertise as much as it is a refusal to accept expert advice and expertise that doesn’t agree with what the person wants to hear.
What a great video, I’ve seen interviews from both good Drs individually so this is an important meeting of the minds. And look… it’s April 2024 and the Donald continues to be a plague, frightening. He could use a good “gone to the farm” conviction. He’s up past his prison time.
so funny I suggested these two join hands not knowing this show existed. Two brave bold great ladies Your personalities exude goodness and honesty. I am so impressed.
I very much respect your expertise and appreciate your knowledge. I would say that the Movie "Don't Look UP" says a lot about our present society, and you are right the feeling people have kind of Narcissism and Dunning/Kruger affect, combination. Along side the 24 hour news cycle, that treats expert opinion as just another report, not given the weight it deserves, and onto a fantasy or meaningless life adventure. So my observation is people see and hear things and accept it as all the same, form an opinion and move on.
Well done ladies, great conversation about a very important topic. Do you think anyone wishing to take on the commander and chief role could pass a psychiatric evaluation? I'd think not, but i wonder whether you think a 'normal' person could perform the role adequately, and whether a 'normal' person would ever want to do the role or be voted in in the first place.
Now, the two of you should invite Maggie Haberman, compare notes and write a book together! ;-) And/or do the talk show rounds and a Social Media blitz... The American public needs to be educated! For-profit mass media obviously failed miserably at their vetting job.
I just watched Dr bandy Lee's interview on Meidas Touch just now and want to find more of her interviews since leaving the profession. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know, I'd appreciate it. I think she does a fantastic job interviewing and I'm very fascinated with the story since she's left psychiatry.
These two are mandatory reporters on the dangers to our mental health and the risk to the citizens of the United States fomr the risk of violent harm. Somehow I feel this interview would have made bigger waves 3 years ago had these words been uttered by two tall white men with deep voices. But we are listening...
I have come to this from reading about Dr Bandy Lee losing her position at Yale. I then watched another interview where she was bullied and yet maintained her professionalism. It takes great courage for a shy person like this to stick to her standards ; she has never been in it for any personal gain or to support any political position. Kudos to you lady .
I saw that just recently that she lost her position at Yale. She's suing them and I hope she wins. I also have learned not to trust the APA because of their stance on their new laws basically gagging anybody in their association from speaking out like Dr. Lee has. I have to wonder how many in that body are narcissists and sociopaths.
@@brianwalsh1401 She lost her case and rightfully so.
@@kerryz966 Everything she predicted about that murderous sociopath, Chump, has come true. He is a cancer who has infected all our lives and is killing democracy in America and around the world.
Dr’s have mental illness as well. Birds of a feather find each other way too easily on the internet. 😅
The comment section is crazy too, filled with people who identify with these two.
-from the perspective of a life long trump hater.
Do you know why she lost her position? Was it because she spoke out against Trump? @@brianwalsh1401
I get the feeling that Dr Lee is the real deal and that she does care about this society. She is a rare find because she does not treat this as her own personal ego trip.
I was quite impressed when I had learned Dr Lee has a master's in divinity. ❤
Dr. Lee posses dignity and humility when imparting information for us.
Given all the efforts made to silence them (including threats of violence) these women should be praised to the stars for their courage, their professionalism, and their patriotism.
BS. SHE IS A WHACK JOB. HER MORALS? ETHICS? ALL OF THIS PRECLUDES ALL SHE HAS SAID. AS FOR TRUMP? SHE HAS BEEN DEBUNKED OVER AND OVER. GET A CLUE!
frankly, it's horrifying that we even need people like you two to tell us what we clearly can see for ourselves... and so many still seem blind... that's the worst part of all this.
….. exactly ….. unlike physical ailments mental problems are subjective in this case depending on which end of the political spectrum you’re on …. nearly half of the electorate voted for former president trump for reasons political in scope … so are they too mentally ill for voting for him as Dr Lee appears to suggest because of exposure to trump’s demagoguery ? …..
Two, very intelligent, interesting and professional women, who have so much to contribute to society. They need to be listened to, especially in the USA now.
Two brave women who are intelligent, educated and doing their best to warn America against so many odds! Thank you both!!! I have Dr. Lee's book about having a Duty to warn us.
I do, too. I also found Dr. Trump's book to be exceptional!
I’m only 4 minutes in, but what a great interview!!!!!!!! Dr. Bandy Lee as an expert in her field (and she obviously has a heart!) and Dr. Mary Trump who can look at her upbringing objectively with logic (not many people can do that!).
Glad there are a few of us left who value competence, leadership and normalcy.
Such as President Biden?
@@kerryz966 Absolutely.
You are two of my most admired women - Dr. Mary Trump and Dr. Brandy Lee!
Thank you both so much for speaking out!
I don't trust them just because they are super educated Dosent necessarily mean they are telling the truth
@@Astrid-jt8cd The truth is in all the observable data that is in plain view. Their education allows them to compare it to other people displaying the same behaviours/ thought processes which allows them to arrive at a diagnosis. Dr. Lee is an expert. Believe her & believe what the rest of us (all around the world) see & are telling you. He's unfit & dangerous!
@@Astrid-jt8cd The truth is in all the observable data that is in plain view. Their education allows them to compare it to other people displaying the same behaviours/ thought processes which allows them to arrive at a diagnosis. Dr. Lee is an expert. Believe her & believe what the rest of us (all around the world) are seeing & saying.
He's unfit & dangerous!
@@Astrid-jt8cd The truth is in all the observable data that is in plain view. Their education allows them to compare it to other people displaying the same behaviours/ thought processes which allows them to arrive at a diagnosis. Dr. Lee is an expert. He's unfit & dangerous!
One of the best (of many) interviews I've seen with Mary Trump, rather than a journalist layperson posing questions, this is two well trained professionals discussing a subject in clinical terms. Congratulations!
LOL.
This is an extraordinary interview of two strong and courageous women I admire most. Thank you so much. It would be amazing if Dr. Lee and Dr. Trump could also invite Dr. Ramani Durvasula (a licensed clinical psychologist, professor of psychology, media expert, and author) to share her view in a joint interview. This is what America needs most of all: Enlightenment.
Considering that at least 10-15% of the population is a narcissists or a sociopath more people need to wake up to this and how much trouble they cause society.
I agree 100% with you!
I listened to them both separately and thought, Mary Trump should get together with Brandy Lee! Not knowing they had until now. Thank God there are good people. These are two brave ones.
The most important takeaway from this discussion is that Fred Trump Sr. is running America from the grave, a truly horrifying reality.
@Richard Jones Always ready to learn .Please make your case.
Fred simply repeated + passed on the universal patterns of stealing +misusing power for oneself.(Alexander,Hitler,Putin,JungUn, etc)
Agree! As an only child who lived in a highly dysfunctional family with a father who set his will up in such a way that I would only get the inheritance that the will promised when I was 50 years old. He placed 2 family members as trustees at the gate, so to speak.
If that isn't control from the grave, I don't know what is.
In addition, my father was an alcoholic as was my mother. I was the scapegoat they blamed. This leaves one scarred and highly confused, full of self-blame that I carried for years. My mother died in 1981 and my father in 1988. I am 71 now and only just now fully emerging from the dysfunction I carried on my back like a saddle. I only began to heal and move forward once they were deceased.
@@marieberberich4445may you know many blessings ❤
DR. TRUMP: "Very much like my grandfather co-opted Donald and my father to be extensions of his own ambitions, Donald co-opts the government to bolster his sense who he is and to advance his own agenda."
This is a brilliant assessment and consistent with malignant narcissists and how they treat everyone and everything in their lives.
Dr. Lee, thank you for bringing this interview to the public. You may think yourself a shy speaker, but your vital work brings the fire!
Dr. Trump, thank you for writing your book and for being so generous with your interviews across many platforms.
greekgoddessmom And also: ”His unique character flaws make him extremely vulnerable to manipulation by smarter and more powerful men and to get him do whatever they want”. This pattern has been SOOOOOOOOOO obvious from the outside that it has hardly escaped anyone in their right mind.
The question is, what is the psychological condition of the USA that allows this to happen - since none of this would be without enablers.
@@jfrmfrjm The nation is in an abusive relationship with Trump---simultaneously dependent on and victimised by him. Those who would stay in the relationship are bound by ignorance; those who would leave, the rule of law. This election will be the most consequential of our lives.
greekgoddessmom Very well put! The forthcoming election is definitely the moment for the electorate to make up their mind about the kind of USA they want - is it a country in escalating decline to authoritarianism, racism, cleptocracy and deteriorating institutions, or is it a nation truely for all its sitizens.
2 BooBs, Angry Idiots that are bitter because they are not getting the outcome they feel they deserve in life !!!
They are 2 LOSERS !! Dr.Lee would be Arrested if we actually followed are own Laws, it is ILLEGAL to Diagnose some1 from the TV !! Mary is bitter because she got Booted from (The Will) ! So Mary got u Suckers to Buy her Assanine Book !!
@@lancemannion1147
Go to bed tRump
They are doing the right thing! These two are really the most qualified on donny boy!
It's nice to see Dr. Lee taking the lead here. Excellent conversation! I always enjoy Dr. Lees' professional and matter-of-fact demeanor. Thanks to both for your commitment and honesty. Much respect for you both!
You are both brilliant and brave professionals whose warnings go unheeded to this day....thank you for your persistence. ...
So much for USA exceptionalism! SMH
At first I reacted negatively to what you came out with, because normally, psychiatric assessments are strictly confidential as well as being disputed by patients who have felt victimized. .
BUT I realized there was danger, by what I was witnessing in the news.. Then your knowledge became invaluable. I see the professional ethics of warning against behavior you are so trained to detect and protect society from.
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He seems to fit the profile of different types of narcissists, sociopaths and psychopaths in a number of different dangerous cases, especially now in September, 2023 and beyond.
The expertise and mastery of psychiatry in mental health and capacity of professional qualifications in politics and especially in presidential leadership is an important factor for any decision-making process, including disqualification of a candidate, voting, hiring, firing, impeachment, etc.
Watching from the UK. Keep doing your thing. For those whose memory of Authoritarianism is a little bit more fresh or clear, seeing the rise of Trump is truly terrifying.
I've read alot on WW2 and prior to it. There are so many parallels between the rise of facism and what is happening today. They would call us alarmists I guess but, I argue, someone has to sound the alarm right? Yes.
@@oscopin74 if you ever wondered what you would be doing if you lived in 1930s Germany, you are doing it.
Watching from Australia. What is especially terrifying is that the Republican party go to great efforts to keep Trump in power. If no-one with power calls him out, then he is more like a king than an elected leader.
@@oscopin74 You have No Clue what is going in over here if u think Trump is the problem !! The Left are the Ones who are creating an Authoritarian Society over here !! The Left will not discuss anything, u either agree with The Left or U get shouted down, ostracized, physically beaten up or they will destroy buildings or set them on 🔥 🔥 !
Lina Guadagnuolo, Domina Dors We appreciate your concern about the people of our country despite the challenges you face and have faced in your own countries. I have seen more and more people from all over the world expressing solidarity and sympathy - and oftentimes straight out pity, which I don’t feel is at all misplaced - and have been touched and moved by these expressions of caring. I think we are in large part a selfish country, I mean, it’s the ethos here. We forget there’s another world of people suffering from their own upheavals and crises and corruption and oppression and genocide. Whenever I experience, on a personal level, one-on-one, the “kindness of strangers,” I lose it, I’m moved to tears, and the comfort and gratitude I feel from your remarks is very similar, on a different level, but not a less meaningful one. We are scared. We know this man has made enemies of our former allies by his words and actions. The only reason for the insane number of supporters of this thug-con that makes sense to me, and many others who have studied and written on the subject, is a cult phenomenon of historic proportion. It’s like we need a deprogramming system of historic proportion to deal with it, and that seems to be something out of reach. So I do believe in the enormous value and validity of history’s lessons, but there are simply too many who don’t, who don’t even know history, who can’t understand bc they were not taught it. What can you do when the majority of the citizens of your country are intentionally under-educated by your government?
In any other developed nation, this work would lead to either a resignation or removal from office. But here, now, it has had little effect so far. I can only imagine what it must have been like to be an ordinary citizen in Hitler's Germany and have the murder of its citizens normalized, as has happened in the U.S.
David Bookbinder Mitch McConnell wants his judges and tax cuts,he doesn’t care about the rest of the nation
In any other country it would Lead to jail, No country outside of the U.S. has Freedom of Speech ! U r Clueless !! Oh yeah, my bad random & or bitter family members write a book & it must be True, she wouldn't Lie, even though it's 20+ yrs. since she got Screwed out of MILLIONS & is still talking about it to a NutJob Shrink, who Breaks the Law every time she makes a diagnosis of President Trump on TV !! TRUMP 2020 !!
These "experts" who have their own agendas - to sell books. None of which can be proven.
any of the specialized fields or disciplines, as psychology, sociology, anthropology, or political science, that interpret human behavior, institutions, society, etc., on the basis of scientific investigations for which it may be difficult to establish strictly measurable criteria.
@@lancemannion1147 LOL you asswipe, we FIRED him!
I think the content of your comment here was missed, and I just wanted to say that your point is wonderfully stated...
I couldn't find this interview until someone gave me a link. I wonder why it wasn't coming up in searches.
I'm very glad I got to see it!
NEED UPDATE NEED UPDATE!! GET THEM BACK TOGETHER AGAIN!!
Thank you ladies for speaking out and breaking it down about this sick individual that continues to destroy our Country.
Thank you for this thoughtful discussion.
A very interesting and wonderful conversation between two highly educated women. Mary is so human in comparison to the Sanford wives persona the other immediate Trump women exhibit. It is disturbing.
Stepford wives, but a clever comparison as they are rather submissive, excepting Pence's wife who he refers to as Mother, and others have a nickname for her....I think it's bulldog.
Donald is A very sick man!
I thank all my Twitter followers for sending a flood of requests to Dr. Lee which with the assistance of Twitter and UA-cam put this interview together. We all need to go one step further to secure an Amendment 25 on Donald Trump based on this interview.
Many in Congress see his dictatorship as a route to extreme power and won't give that up.
GREAT DANGER TO THE NATION
GREAT DANGER TO THE CONSTITUTION
GREAT DANGER TO THE WORLD
This is a time of extraordinary danger to the nation because the man who wields the powers of the presidency of the United States is a mass killer.
It is a time of unprecedented danger to the constitutional order of our country because a man with severe mental problems cannot accept the basic norms and laws of civic life.
We are in a time of tremendous danger to the world because a man who is demonstrably incapable of serving in office controls the most powerful weapons of mass destruction in human history.
We brought together the nation’s foremost mental health experts at a Yale Conference in April 2017 who warned psychological dangerousness in the presidency would devolve into cultural, geopolitical, and civic dangerousness. The proceedings went into a bestselling book, The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump, which accurately anticipated the presidency’s course.
We followed up at the National Press Club in Washington in March 2019 with experts of law, history, political science, economics, social psychology, journalism, propaganda studies, nuclear science, and climate science, who described how the president was unfit from each of their perspectives.
We now conclude it is our even more urgent responsibility to speak to the nation with a collective voice at this time of unprecedented and accelerating dangers because of the president’s apparent unraveling with increasingly reckless statements and actions.
We believe the Washington authorities, the State and Municipal officials, and our military leaders should refuse illegal orders, such as the attempted militarization of our capital city and the threatened military invasion of states and local communities by the White House.
We believe the citizens of our country, “We the People,” should refuse to allow the president to advance authoritarian and neo-fascist methods, attitudes, and policies reminiscent of tragedies that have befallen countries in recent and past history.
We further believe Donald Trump must be urgently sidelined from the pandemic crisis, which he has disastrously mismanaged, causing incalculable deaths and economic devastation.
We urge our fellow citizens to support us in our “Prescription for Survival” -PrescriptionForSurvival.org - to demand that a man clearly mentally disturbed and demonstrably unfit to lead our country be removed from power or otherwise be restrained.
The World Mental Health Coalition
June 7, 2020
That was from the 37 licensed psychiatrists that Bandy X. Lee, M. D. was the editor for the book they are referring to in their statement below: The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump.
The statement above (I didn’t realize it Appeared above my clarification about who the people who made the statement were the same people that Bandy X. Lee MD. was talking about. She edited two books, both bestsellers, one in 2017 with 27 psychiatrists and then a second book in 2019 with 37 psychiatrists who made the statement above.
2 Bitter Old Crones, each 1, more Bitter than the other ! 1. Still Pissed 20yrs after getting The Axe from the WILL ! 2. Bandy diagnosing some1 she Never met, which is ILLEGAL & she should Lose her NutBag Shrink License !
I showed my 87 year old mother this interview. She feels heartened by this conversation but very concerned for the future. She is right, ofcourse. A psychopath"s ability to overwhelm emotionally often trumps empathic reasoning. Pun intended.
Yup same here then I showed my elder mother the ailicone fake baby doll Darren uaes as prince Harry and meghans baby. I showes her the 10 month baby bump. She couldnt believe Amazon sells silicone babies that look real.
YOU PROJECTING. SEEM YOU AND HER ARE BOTH PSYCHOPATHS. GET REAL HELP.
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With half the adult population now afflicted followers, we need a psychiatric assessment of them. They are steering the immediate politics of the US, and seem ready to drink the cool-aid. Even if the 2024 election goes blue and he is jailed, half the population will remain a national security issue.
Two of my favorite mental health doctors. Thanks for speaking up. When our democracy was on the line, you both were willing to fight to save it. I only wish there were more like you. 🤗
**Coming from someone born into a family creepy crawling with Cluster B Personality Disorder. I went no contact with my family, got an amazing therapist who specialized in trauma to treat my PTSD and then my country was being run by a Narcissist!! Now it wasn't just my immediate family and their flying monkeys 🐒 but my whole country (or at least about half). More traumatizing than I like to admit, but so grateful for Biden. I am for Elizabeth Warren, but am grateful for Biden. Hoping the country snaps out of this fascist brainwashing.
Enlightening discussio, ladies. Thanks!,
Well done & comprehensive interview. Dr. Lee selected good questions and steered the interview in an informative & gracious manner.
Key word, steered the intv. No Objectivity from A Shrink & a Fake Shrink ! The latter still Angry that she got The Axe from Grandpas WILL !!
This is a really good discussion. What I'd like to know is what can our country do about this?
The election seems our only recourse as many in Congress are enamored with the power he offers.
Many jobs require personality tests. For narcissism there are tests too. Here's some more truth. Not a shred of ethics in Trump. Trump has no empathy. People are objects to him, not real people. Look for malignant overt narcissist on YT. Read the comments. Look for Narcissism in general on YT. Read the comments. It's Trump's biography. Trump's mentally ill. He has NPD. His narrative is confabulating to distort your view of reality. It's what narcs do to make you question yourself or in order not to aswer your question. Inform yourself on this topic. They can be anybody. People are married to a narc and thinking it's themselves who are the crazy one. Kids are suffering abuse every way every day. It can be a co-worker upsetting you everytime you meet. Learn the red flags. Trump's one of many who are harmfull to others on a daily basis. They are devils disguised as people like you and me. No love, only hate. Till the day they die. All from childhood trauma. Their closest are abused the most. So it's our problem.
Thank you both for speaking up
2 voices of reason in dire need today.
"(Trump) appeals to others' narcissism". This is not oft mentioned, or not as much as it should be, when we try to understand what's behind the illogical support he receives from those in government as well as his base.
Very grateful to these two women for their courage, and their care for the country as they try to save us from "The most dangerous person in the world".
Exactly what I've been saying. Trump has had the effect of "normalizing" the deep pathology in many people.
8:40 appealing to others' narcissism
I think this point is remarkably important and revealing.
@@JeffDinkin can you mention one of the people’s deep pathology that Trump normalized please?
@@ajahnchahrules - well PJ, it's not actually "normal" - but being a total piece of shit idiot is pretty much what I mean.
This is such an important interview. It deserves many, many, many more views.
As a survivor of narcissistic abuse, I have for a long time been incredibly disheartened by the silence, at best, of mental health professionals on issues surrounding the fallout from Cluster B behavioural patterns. It's hurtful, honestly. It compounds the sense of hopelessness people like me are already so inclined to feel.
Of course professionals have a responsibility to the people with these outwardly destructive pathologies, and a lot of the time, there shouldn't be any reason to overrule that responsibility. But sometimes the risk of collateral damage is too great, and I wish the APA would take that seriously. If all goes well, I'll be joining the mental health profession in the near future and I fully intend to lend my voice to this gaping area of neglect in the field.
LOL. NO. JUST NO
2 years later and we all know bandy is cray cray
Yes from a crazy woke gangs
This is without doubt the best incite into the mental disorder that is donald trump I have ever seen. Dr Lee is brilliant and Mary really expanded on the various disorders trump is suffering from, not just the Delusional Sociopath diagnosis
Judging from your spelling and sentence structure, I don’t think you are capable of recognizing brilliance.
Talk about holier than thou. Here is one woman that nobody is going to. ‘Shut up’. Donald Trump is the most vile human on this earth today. His gross stupidity and malignant narcissism could destroy us all and with nuclear weapons in the hands of powerful men the earth too. It doesn’t matter if sentence construction and spelling and so on aren’t perfect. Nuclear radiation doesn’t distinguish. 😅
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@@daydream_believer Wow, that really hurts, particularly when expressed by someone who follows a great intellect like Miss Bandy!!
@@kerryz966 I've made an appt for you to see Dr Lee. Don't worry I doubt it will take too long--not a whole lot there to evaluate! lol
Two smart and wise woman who risked everything to speak truth to power.
"When people show you who there are, believe them!"
I have utmost respect for these two. Thank you ladies for stepping up to save the USA. 🎉
Great interview, though I wish it were longer in probing all the issues raised. Hope there will be follow-up interviews/conversations between these two experts to shed more light on this serious challenge we face. Kudos for your courage to speak out.
Thank you for this conversation. Very helpful. I hope both of you keep talking to us and recording videos like this. We need your continued input. Thank you.
Thank you for this program doc! It was wonderful and enlightening coming from a professional!
Her book was well written.
No it wasn't, her book is just a a Bitter Old Croan, who is still pissed 30yrs later because she got Booted from her GrandPa's Will !!
You know what’s more dangerous it’s Nov 2022 he May run again ! I’m moving to Spain can’t take it
I love these women sooo much!
Bravo ladies !
Excellent-very accurate & terrifying. Thank-you, Drs Lee & Trump. Much respect.🤗
Great interview! Thanks!!!
This is fantastic.
Two Great Women. Would people listen to them
Thank you we need to hear more voices of reasoning we as patient/therapist need to speak up loudly against the stigma attached to mental health. Some of us are sicker than others.
Invaluable UA-cam site. Yes, keep on this mission. More people need to be warned!
Thank you, Dr. Lee. Your courage in the face of professional, public, and personal adversity is remarkable. You are truly a light in the darkest of times.🫶
Thanks for your contributions ❤️
Wow I don’t know how in the world I missed this interview . Absolutely Love these two brilliant Doctors
When I worked in a few prisons, people were there for life for one murder. Trump has killed 200,000 by his inept COVID 19 response, and is still jetting about to hate fests and golf holidays.
Hope you read my opinion of your opinion The many dead COVID victims is a serious example of Trump's competence as a president How dare he have the shit for brains to forgive himself and continue his evil disease destroying of America and the world.
Thank you.
Mary , I have the upmost respect for you. I thank you for all of your knowledge that you have helped all of us with especially with the COVID deaths such a terrible thing and then receiving false information on top of it from former president trump. Once again you are fighting for what is morally right and I commend you for your professional help. Thank You
Such an important conversation. I wish it had been a couple of hours and they had talked in more detail. Please do another one and put it on MSNBC etc.
Mary I didnt realize you had interviewed her. You both make a wonderful team. Besides her getting it and helping support your feeling crazy did this also break you down and allow yourself to heal? Great interview. We all need to understand this trump contagion. It helps us to understand. While this focus's on the MAGA contagion I would love to hear more about us....critical thinkers with discernemnt. Oh wow she interviewed you...lol. I didnt realize thank you both!!
Great interview. Everyone needs to see this.
Are Americans blind ? Don’t they see his insanity? Telling people to drink bleach ? Really
World need more people like Dr. Lee, she is beautiful from inside out! BIG RESPECT
In Trumps book "Sucess 101", Donald Trump said that people like me deserve a corner office. I knew he was fibbing, but it it still put good ideas in my head.
Glad to find this. I was wondering if she talked to other shrinks about her uncle.
I don't even know what to say. The 'mental capacity' concept--or lack thereof is---I can only think of how. naming the thing--mental capacity, and Trump's deficit there, cements all those little floating hints and suspicions that he's a loose cannon and dangerous. How was this interview NOT circulated widely two years ago.
……and to THINK he is running again and has NOT been stopped!
Two very educated women with the perspectve to describe the madness of Donald Trump and his disturbed supporters.
I am so grateful for your work, both of you!
Great podcast really helpful to really see what's going on. Thank you
The sad thing is that many people cannot or will not attempt to be better.
I do not understand why he is not in jail yet!! He should be!!
Turn him over to the 'The Hague.' Let the international courts decide.
Wonderful interview😊🎉
Dr Lee , How does it feel , to know you are yet again watching the American public walking into the chopper blades , in the name of political and media based profit ?? I love you and your never give up attitude since 2016 . It's a shame that I feel so very alone in this respect . A lot of my family and friends are not as lucky ....
Listen to ALL the previous people that have been tormented by him and his personality disorders. The people of n.y. state, not just the city, have to say about why they did not vote for him. What is wrong with his supporters? Daddy issues? Blind deaf and dumb? God help us.
Wow! Calling you "the issue" of your father is the most de-humanizing way possible to refer to you.
Mary is my hero! As far as I know she is the only Trump with integrity I too have a narcissistic psycho in my family!
My mother grew up in Nazi Germany. The similarities between the rise of the Trump cult and his enablers and what happened in Germany is very sad and dangerous.
Gerald, I'm so terribly sorry for your mother. Is she still alive?
Having been born in Amsterdam in 1943, and suffered many direct and indirect consequences of the German occupation, I can relate very well, and have studied WW2, and pre WW2 phenomenon as a whole for many years.
I wholeheartedly agree with the similarities, and the clear dangers.
Yes Mr. Walter. I share your your thoughts. Even I'm born ten years later, I see repitation... The start of banning books and and and ~ Let's hope, he doesn't come again!
I don’t think it’s lack of access to expertise as much as it is a refusal to accept expert advice and expertise that doesn’t agree with what the person wants to hear.
EXCELLENT!! 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍❤❤
What a great video, I’ve seen interviews from both good Drs individually so this is an important meeting of the minds. And look… it’s April 2024 and the Donald continues to be a plague, frightening. He could use a good “gone to the farm” conviction. He’s up past his prison time.
so funny I suggested these two join hands not knowing this show existed. Two brave bold great ladies Your personalities exude goodness and honesty. I am so impressed.
Knowledge is power.
Lightboxes and smoking volcanoes are easy to tell apart. It should not take experts to point this out.
I very much respect your expertise and appreciate your knowledge. I would say that the Movie "Don't Look UP" says a lot about our present society, and you are right the feeling people have kind of Narcissism and Dunning/Kruger affect, combination. Along side the 24 hour news cycle, that treats expert opinion as just another report, not given the weight it deserves, and onto a fantasy or meaningless life adventure. So my observation is people see and hear things and accept it as all the same, form an opinion and move on.
Well done ladies, great conversation about a very important topic.
Do you think anyone wishing to take on the commander and chief role could pass a psychiatric evaluation? I'd think not, but i wonder whether you think a 'normal' person could perform the role adequately, and whether a 'normal' person would ever want to do the role or be voted in in the first place.
ONE THING. PSYCHOPATHY IS NOT A MENTAL HEALTH ISSUE. IT IS TERMED AN ANTISOCIAL PERSONALITY DISORDER. BUT TRUST ME. IT GOES MUCH DEEPER THAN THAT.
Im in love with dr Lee...
Don;t tell anyone...
Now, the two of you should invite Maggie Haberman, compare notes and write a book together! ;-) And/or do the talk show rounds and a Social Media blitz... The American public needs to be educated! For-profit mass media obviously failed miserably at their vetting job.
I just watched Dr bandy Lee's interview on Meidas Touch just now and want to find more of her interviews since leaving the profession. If anyone has any suggestions please let me know, I'd appreciate it. I think she does a fantastic job interviewing and I'm very fascinated with the story since she's left psychiatry.
Fascinating.
Hey where are you now? Let’s call for Brandon’s mental health exam!!
Your welcome to the person who thanked me.
just wow
These two are mandatory reporters on the dangers to our mental health and the risk to the citizens of the United States fomr the risk of violent harm. Somehow I feel this interview would have made bigger waves 3 years ago had these words been uttered by two tall white men with deep voices. But we are listening...
i had a very bad case of pneumonia and i am suffering from neurological side effects since
My interdisciplinary choice of doctors to assess a potential diagnosis pending orders forthcoming.
Read both authors' books 📚❤
BRILLIANT!