FRONT AXLE with Disk Brakes- LEGO Technic (MOC)

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  • Опубліковано 31 бер 2018
  • Hi guys, this is my idea for pretty advanced front axle. Except authentic steering geometry and others bits and bobs, the most interesting function is brake system.
    Rear axle can be easy built, using the same system with small changes to make it even more robust.
    I also invented custem hubs for Porsche's wheels. The biggest advantage of them is that, they are smaller than official ones.
    This enabled me to design this axle with steering pivot, relatively close to authentic one.
    I hope you like it and find this concept helpful in your MOCs.
    Music:
    • tobgan - Space walk
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  • @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845
    @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845  3 роки тому +5

    New version is Out! ua-cam.com/video/TyOA9fpBFQs/v-deo.html

  • @seanwhatstone8880
    @seanwhatstone8880 6 років тому +670

    this moc is more advanced than my actual cars suspension

    • @AngelGonzalez-xe8cr
      @AngelGonzalez-xe8cr 5 років тому +2

      Sean Whatstone then be a mechanic

    • @ChronoGXay
      @ChronoGXay 4 роки тому +1

      Spiderman - What about a multilink suspension? (Source: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Multi-link_suspension)

    • @calvinnickel9995
      @calvinnickel9995 4 роки тому +5

      @ ChronoGXay
      He said simple and practical. A multi link is actually more complex than a double wishbone.
      It was interesting that back in the 80s and 90s.. magazines like Car and Driver and Consumer Reports hounded the US domestic auto manufacturers for having “medieval” MacPherson struts while most Japanese imports used double wishbone suspension.
      The truth was the Japanese car makers like Honda wanted to use MacPherson struts but it would make the engine bays on their cars like the Civic and Prelude too small. So they used double wishbone suspension and sold their cars on superior handling.
      Then quietly in the early 2000s they installed MacPherson struts on their now larger cars and everyone except die hard fan boys didn’t care.

    • @oliverkinson791
      @oliverkinson791 4 роки тому +3

      Looking at the parts used here and how it relates to real car suspension it's basically the same thing but just looks advanced because its smaller and has more components for strengthening the plastic rather than just using metal that's already stronger with less support

    • @owo2528
      @owo2528 4 роки тому

      Oof

  • @8bitarmory846
    @8bitarmory846 5 років тому +127

    Because you have the brake system, I’d recommend using a security gear to connect the motor to the driveshaft

  • @dannydorito9815
    @dannydorito9815 4 роки тому +205

    How long until someone combines all the moc’s for the functioning engine, suspension, and makes a full custom car? That functions and drives?

    • @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845
      @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845  4 роки тому +36

      2nd year of mechanical engineering here 🖐️😃

    • @MushyMonkey20
      @MushyMonkey20 4 роки тому +3

      They have actually made a Bugatti Chiron out of technic that drives. I’m not sure what it was powered by though.

    • @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845
      @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845  4 роки тому +13

      It was driven by a lot of pf L-motors, but it had steel frame, so definitely not 100% lego

    • @MushyMonkey20
      @MushyMonkey20 4 роки тому +2

      Exttero's Lego Technic Creations yeah I didn’t think it was totally made of Lego. It was still quite a cool build though.

    • @Ayayayyayayay
      @Ayayayyayayay 4 роки тому +1

      MushyMonkey 20 with a top speed of 12 mph lol, still very impressive and intriguing

  • @randomrandom5
    @randomrandom5 6 років тому +81

    I will never be unimpressed. This work is so amazing, it is a masterpiece. It's the Mona Lisa of LEGO Technic, and you are the Leonardo Da Vinci who made it. I can't tell you enough how amazing this is.

  • @jorjicat6318
    @jorjicat6318 4 роки тому +25

    I am amazed you were able to add caster angle with Lego. I have never seen that in a lego moc before.

    • @MikkoRantalainen
      @MikkoRantalainen 3 роки тому

      I've seen caster angle in MOC before but not this nicely done. The previous version I saw had whole front suspension angled as a big module.

    • @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845
      @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845  3 роки тому

      Maybe you will find newer version even more interesting 😊
      ua-cam.com/video/TyOA9fpBFQs/v-deo.html

  • @blaze3766
    @blaze3766 6 років тому +4

    Wow! So many working mechanisms! Magnificent!

  • @randomrandom5
    @randomrandom5 6 років тому +74

    This is an axle that can be modified to not use the brakes, which is extremely beneficial for me, as I have looked for an AWD, suspension, and steering axle. The only result I got was not what I wanted, this is much, much simpler.

  • @allaboutlego1540
    @allaboutlego1540 6 років тому +37

    Nice design!

  • @larsalbert2380
    @larsalbert2380 5 років тому +8

    This Thing literally got everything a Front-Axle could have. Nice Design.

  • @TheRguru1
    @TheRguru1 5 років тому +4

    Great design! Love the use of pneumatics for the brakes. And probably the best Lego implementation of disc brakes I have seen yet.

    • @MikkoRantalainen
      @MikkoRantalainen 3 роки тому

      I think it would be fine to apply the brakes to diff input similar to RC racers. It's very rare that scale models actually need wheel independant brakes. That would also allow using direct servo input for the brake which will result in less latency for remote control.

    • @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845
      @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845  3 роки тому

      The problem with this solution is that, the U-joints will be extremely stressed and can easily brake

  • @omen2332
    @omen2332 5 років тому +10

    Imagine using Lego's RC controller and receiver to power two identical motors for the two axles, making the car all-wheel drive. Also (just a thought), we could add an electric motor to turn the steering column at the point demonstrated in this video, and control it using a controller specifically made for not continuous turning, but only for short bursts, to turn the axles. Great video.

    • @MikkoRantalainen
      @MikkoRantalainen 3 роки тому

      Latest gen Lego motors ("Control+") with bluetooth control module can run all motors as electric motors or servos as needed. Of course, it's not compatible with older power functions parts so you need to get all new motors in addition to the controller.
      Use Controlz Android app to configure servo angles and motor speeds. Cheapest set to get two motors and the controller is Lego 42109. If you also want suspension parts, get Lego 42099. The Controlz app can control multiple control modules and each module can control up to 4 motor units (each configured as servo or motor).
      Lego 42124 (Off-Road Buggy) is supposed to be introduced soon and if it's priced low it might be the cheapest way to get Control+ parts.
      If you have compatible controller (e.g. PS4 controller), BrickController 2 is also a good way to control new Lego parts. You still need an Android phone as a proxy, though. I think BrickController 2 can also work with iPhone.

    • @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845
      @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845  3 роки тому

      I'm not a huge fan of C+ system, you can't stack connections, those motors are huge in comparison to already not so small PF motors and they are quite pricey. The only C+ advantage is already mentioned by you encoder and ability to use them as servos, but this function still barely works with Lego apps as far as I know. So I'll stick with old good PF

  • @aneomgr7798
    @aneomgr7798 4 роки тому +2

    I'm glad youtube recommended me this, awsome work, subbed

  • @Bricks.Master.Builders
    @Bricks.Master.Builders 5 років тому +4

    How come you only have 800 subs, you deserve much more, subscribed to support your great channel

  • @calvinnickel9995
    @calvinnickel9995 4 роки тому +1

    This is pretty amazing.

  • @babascustomlegocreations8837
    @babascustomlegocreations8837 6 років тому +6

    Wow this is a very good idea! Maybe this will end up in some of my mocs ;)

  • @benjamingallay7335
    @benjamingallay7335 6 років тому +1

    Nice and very compact !

  • @randomrandom5
    @randomrandom5 6 років тому

    Amazing work!

  • @sebastienkauffmann7139
    @sebastienkauffmann7139 5 років тому +1

    really cool !

  • @johnsheppard2456
    @johnsheppard2456 5 років тому +4

    Build a Lego Technic Dodge Demon around this design...too perfect I'd say!

  • @Chris.M
    @Chris.M 5 років тому +1

    +1 subscription
    Looking forward to seeing more! Many thanks for sharing

  • @legaragedanto6567
    @legaragedanto6567 6 років тому

    Awesome job

  • @jltworks3167
    @jltworks3167 5 років тому

    Excellent! I don’t see many videos that have working disc brakes in axles, I’ve mainly seen sheepo cover it

  • @hawelryt4929
    @hawelryt4929 6 років тому +2

    Nice one

  • @The_RC_Dude
    @The_RC_Dude 4 роки тому +2

    This is basically everything you could possibly want your front axle to do

  • @Mechanic-Maniac
    @Mechanic-Maniac 5 років тому +1

    Wow. Good work. Very well done ;)

  • @domiku5614
    @domiku5614 6 років тому +4

    Ur a genious!

  • @IrishWannabe
    @IrishWannabe 5 років тому

    You Are a genius!

  • @remembermilou
    @remembermilou 4 роки тому

    total bonkers my dude

  • @scottowens398
    @scottowens398 3 роки тому

    This is definitely on the 'If I Win a Million Dollars' list. This right here.

  • @budgetcuber2910
    @budgetcuber2910 3 роки тому +1

    That’s crazy that this has break pads that’s kinda insane am I the only one that thinks that

  • @TedSCSI
    @TedSCSI 6 років тому

    Nice, correct disk for a disc btw

  • @michanowacki9152
    @michanowacki9152 6 років тому

    Cool 4 functions

  • @Vdub_
    @Vdub_ 6 років тому +1

    This is a great design man, crazy the detail that's in it. There is only one thing I would change personally that being what your using for a brake pad. A softer material for the brake pads would make them work MUCH better. Alternatively you could change the design so more of the brake pads surface area touch the rotor. But anyways amazing design.

    • @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845
      @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845  6 років тому

      It's working surprisingly efficiently because the pad isn't pressed exactly parallely to disc surface (bigger force is applied to higher connecting point, so it twists a little bit up). Thanks to that, the pad catches stud-gaps on disk and stops it.

    • @Grumpher
      @Grumpher 5 років тому

      Do you know if you are using a leading brake system? ie does the disc rotate into side of the pad with the bigger force (leading) or away from that side (trailing)

  • @dogoplayzcruz897
    @dogoplayzcruz897 6 років тому +7

    This is just like the steering and suspension of my LEGO Porsche

  • @Dw-dg6bm
    @Dw-dg6bm 4 роки тому

    You should do a car and sent it to lego. I will definetly buy it. Good job bro

  • @TheCinemaphobic
    @TheCinemaphobic 4 роки тому +1

    That’s awesome!!! I’d prefer RWD :P absolutely amazing work

  • @marcel.8177
    @marcel.8177 4 роки тому

    Genius

  • @tiquus_e3094
    @tiquus_e3094 5 років тому

    If you only on the back axle build this by a very fast car, you can drift very nice!

  • @bi0skull811
    @bi0skull811 6 років тому +1

    you can now refresh this beautiful idea with de discs brakes for the new bugatti chiron set and it's gonna be perfect. ;)

  • @marcusm5127
    @marcusm5127 4 роки тому

    What an amazing model. I think you could improve the performance of the brakes but maybe the estectics are more important since it's a model. There are lego vinking shields and rubber axel holders. I think you could get the brakes to work better with that configuration. Hope you can utilize this in a lego car.

    • @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845
      @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845  3 роки тому

      tried my best, but sadly those small pneumatics cylinders don't have enough strength
      ua-cam.com/video/TyOA9fpBFQs/v-deo.html

  • @Downstriker559
    @Downstriker559 4 роки тому

    Hey great video! You should try making a transmission with a working clutch based off of pneumatics!

  • @johnlennon_38special
    @johnlennon_38special 6 років тому +14

    This just showed me how brakes work!!! I always thought the discs pressed on the wheel hub but never knew what the calipers were

  • @breenotcheese746
    @breenotcheese746 3 роки тому

    Seeing you use those ball joints gives me anxiety lol

  • @nexus_duck8612
    @nexus_duck8612 5 років тому

    great, now how do you build it

  • @hannonuhm8670
    @hannonuhm8670 6 років тому +2

    Genius!!!

  • @glaedrag7038
    @glaedrag7038 5 років тому +1

    This is really great, do you come up with all of the ideas yourself?

    • @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845
      @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845  5 років тому +1

      I've learned a lot by watching nicjasno's videos, but designed this one all by myself

    • @glaedrag7038
      @glaedrag7038 5 років тому +1

      I'm really impressed. I'll try to come up with something just as cool as this. Keep up the good work!

  • @dakotaschwab5341
    @dakotaschwab5341 3 роки тому

    @Exttero's Lego Technic Creations I had this idea where you use the pneumatic cylinders in place of shocks for the suspension and then you can use them to adjust the ride height while still having the pop back of the shocks. If you see this and can create a moc of this that would be awesome.

    • @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845
      @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845  3 роки тому

      Had very similar idea. I've put one custom shock absorber and one small pneumatic cylinder per wheel to make pneumatic system for adjustable ride height, and it works quite nicely. Video is coming someday hopefully 😁

  • @adrian_zombturtle148
    @adrian_zombturtle148 4 роки тому

    That's really cool but I feel like you should of built a forward wheel drive car using this to test out the brakes

  • @user-or1uo4ct9r
    @user-or1uo4ct9r 4 роки тому +1

    Make a solid axle with a working panhard

  • @ericfoiering3893
    @ericfoiering3893 4 роки тому

    I would like to build this myself. Do you have some instructions on how to build it? thanks

  • @sweepoodgaming5400
    @sweepoodgaming5400 6 років тому

    buy the finest sandpapaer you can get and cut out 2 circles with a hole in the middle and glue/teip it to the rotor and do the same to the pad, makes better friktion and easier barking

  • @terencetsang9518
    @terencetsang9518 6 років тому

    Nice work! Is the wear on the brake elements bad though?

    • @WatShmat
      @WatShmat 6 років тому

      Terence Tsang if there is that just makes it even cooler. But probably not unless it is used a crap ton.

  • @userjb1yb5yq3t
    @userjb1yb5yq3t 4 роки тому

    He could’ve made a r6 drone lol regardless of that it’s sick as hell

  • @0wly
    @0wly 4 роки тому

    Just gonna wait till someone builds a all lego awd rc rally car with brake discs.

  • @Ben-gc4qp
    @Ben-gc4qp 4 роки тому

    That remembers me of the 42110

  • @stefanstockinger7165
    @stefanstockinger7165 6 років тому

    how does this work, when the steering links and the connections of the wheels to the axle are not aligned? i can't manage to do that, without the wheels being offset when suspended.

    • @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845
      @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845  6 років тому

      This axleset works best when it's about half-way compressed. These are adventages of positive caster angle and king pin. Thanks to them, car stais driving straight without turning itself and has better grip while cornering.

  • @ryanxu9983
    @ryanxu9983 4 роки тому

    Hm did you slightly base the steering component off of the rally car set?

  • @jaiveyo9004
    @jaiveyo9004 4 роки тому

    Wow, verry smart.
    Do you have the instructions to?

  • @nicolasfredette8564
    @nicolasfredette8564 6 років тому

    You need to balance that driver side wheel ! Lol

  • @asslowshop396
    @asslowshop396 4 роки тому

    I used to make things like this out of legos a few years back. The reason I stopped is because of frustration. Sadly.

  • @florianpeifer6515
    @florianpeifer6515 5 років тому +1

    Nearby perfect ! But i would use dampers for the breaks, it's better!

  • @TeamMaxxlife
    @TeamMaxxlife 6 років тому

    You are the best Lego-engineer! Are you interested in RC cars too?

  • @DenGuleBalje
    @DenGuleBalje 4 роки тому

    Amazing. Now do hydropneumatic suspension

    • @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845
      @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845  4 роки тому

      Great idea! If you want to see it please support me by buying my instructions so I can afford pneumatic cylinders, they are quite pricey 😟😅

  • @JoranPrins
    @JoranPrins 6 років тому

    Nicem but why don't you use a lego rubber piece to prevent wear?

    • @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845
      @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845  6 років тому

      they were too soft and
      in addition to the functionality, I wanted to keep the autnetic look of brakes. I can ensure you, that rubber pices would be consumed much quicker than regular pieces

  • @kevincolwell3066
    @kevincolwell3066 4 роки тому

    How meany miles before you have to change the brake pads?

  • @garl2000
    @garl2000 4 роки тому

    Two yies later: I Built A Fully funkcional CAR

    • @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845
      @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845  3 роки тому

      almost ;) progress going slowly, but you can check out new version of this axle ua-cam.com/video/TyOA9fpBFQs/v-deo.html

  • @jonskhag
    @jonskhag 3 роки тому

    I'd like to see this on a lego car

  • @ultravince_xxi
    @ultravince_xxi 4 роки тому

    *and i'm over here struggling to make a basic skyscraper*

  • @kamilgdansk
    @kamilgdansk 4 роки тому

    Imprssive

  • @alicewen4383
    @alicewen4383 5 років тому

    You know you can add three modified pegs with studs
    and use a flat 1x3 plate so the brake calliper looks better

    • @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845
      @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845  5 років тому

      I'm not really into modifying bricks, and in my opinion my solution is optimal, because real brake callipers ain't so flat

  • @brickolo_
    @brickolo_ 5 років тому +1

    But you haven’t done an axle with:
    Positive caster, udjustable ride hight, brakes,independent suspension,Ackerman steering with virtual pivot point,drive,automatically locking differential, toe angle and camber angle.
    Lol wonder if that’s possible.

    • @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845
      @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845  5 років тому

      A lot of that is coming in my next MOC. ;)
      Virtual pivot point is achievable only by using multilink setup suspension, which is very weak in lego.
      Further, there is no such thing as automatically locking differential, maybe you mean limited slip differential?
      All in all, I think I was really colse to your wish, with not containing only 3 out of 10 functions ;)

  • @SamuelYsc
    @SamuelYsc 5 років тому

    After watching this video the 4096 times i still can't figure out how to do a one one Bugatti Disc-brake.
    Does this have any update?

  • @lettuce5234
    @lettuce5234 3 роки тому

    Can u pls tell me wut piece number the tire rim and wheel was? Great video

  • @ryanwang727
    @ryanwang727 4 роки тому

    I tried to build the same thing but had to make it twice the size.

  • @adamosuilleabhain324
    @adamosuilleabhain324 6 років тому

    Dual calipers please?

  • @Schwallex
    @Schwallex 6 років тому +1

    In the year 31589, when the scientists are finally done watching the entirety of UA-cam, they will come to no indisputable conclusions safe for one.
    Every single human who was any good with Technic had an utterly obnoxious taste in music.

    • @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845
      @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845  6 років тому +1

      It' not so easy to find free-to use music and it's impossible to please everyone, but if you have any suggestions i'd like to hear them

  • @LeftLaneHog.308
    @LeftLaneHog.308 Рік тому

    Youll need to change the angle of your steering linkage to prevent bump steer

  • @CY5588
    @CY5588 3 роки тому

    The breaking will stress the motor.But overall,good work

    • @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845
      @extteroslegotechniccreatio4845  3 роки тому

      thank you I use brakes while motor was running only to show that breaks actually work and have some breaking power
      you can also check out my 2nd verion of complex front axle here: ua-cam.com/video/TyOA9fpBFQs/v-deo.html

  • @OllieDM910
    @OllieDM910 4 роки тому

    Try to make a full rc Lego car with working suspension and turning

  • @maksteam9577
    @maksteam9577 Рік тому

    а вам не кажется что из-за трения детали будут быстро портится, и точка изгиба карданов не соответствует точке изгиба рычага, из-за этого можно сломать карданы, безусловно это отличная идея, но что из-за этого портятся детали это большой минус

  • @alessandrocorucci799
    @alessandrocorucci799 3 роки тому

    #1

  • @aronsomogyi8252
    @aronsomogyi8252 6 років тому +1

    How you controled the breaks?

  • @Xdriver201
    @Xdriver201 4 роки тому

    so no ones gonna mention how these look like r6 drones

  • @Wreckedftfoxy
    @Wreckedftfoxy 3 роки тому

    what you talking about hubs? i made a front without hubs just axel and spacer then the thing to hold it in then end of axel

  • @oliverssimanis8345
    @oliverssimanis8345 4 роки тому

    YES THIS IS WHAT I WAN.. wait I'm missing parts to build this. Please don't think of me as a hater but can make a front axle with the suspension spring being a one with like a little knob at the end. I will find the piece's code and put it in replies

  • @amjadalia1785
    @amjadalia1785 6 років тому

    How can i get this

  • @sim0n2k38
    @sim0n2k38 4 роки тому

    Damn bro

  • @mikeperry3284
    @mikeperry3284 4 роки тому +1

    Damn it's got air brakes you need a class c to drive it

  • @theblower069
    @theblower069 5 років тому

    Would this for onto the lego technic Porsche gt3 rd?

  • @theofficialtastynacho0898
    @theofficialtastynacho0898 4 роки тому

    All you have to do is add a camera in the middle and you have the drones from Rainbow 6 Seige

  • @darkomods9378
    @darkomods9378 5 років тому

    did you guys noticed that the video came on the 1st April?

  • @highthard5378
    @highthard5378 4 роки тому

    This for you formula one

  • @mudy7471
    @mudy7471 4 роки тому

    So this is basicaly a rainbow 6 drone?

  • @stretch5361
    @stretch5361 4 роки тому

    idk, kinda looks like a six siege drone

  • @arutezza
    @arutezza 5 років тому

    How?

  • @honkhonk8009
    @honkhonk8009 5 років тому +1

    next up.
    Fortnite borgar - LEGO Technic (MOC)

  • @tbblobnoerna3500
    @tbblobnoerna3500 4 роки тому

    I saw the thumbnail and thought it was a seeker mine from black ops 4

  • @jamesthesergal6352
    @jamesthesergal6352 4 роки тому

    Me: NO! You can't design breaks like that! That's now how that works!!!
    Lego creator: Hah hah, lego brakes go brrrrt
    Lol, on a more serious note. Brake pads go on against the disk. Not brake pad on the outside. It kind of just looks odd to me.
    Like it a lot tho.

  • @dexstex
    @dexstex 6 років тому

    Better not to use metal drum or pads it will scratch the plastic