Michael Shellenberger: Elon Musk’s Twitter Protects Us From Totalitarianism

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  • @DadSavesAmerica
    @DadSavesAmerica  5 днів тому +12

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  • @bikepacker9850
    @bikepacker9850 5 днів тому +45

    MS is one of the brave men standing up to try and save the West...

  • @Judge247
    @Judge247 4 дні тому +55

    Democrat: First comes government, then come Rights.
    Republican: First come Rights, THEN comes government.

    • @DavidMcCalister
      @DavidMcCalister 4 дні тому

      Progressives just want control and to be insulated from the difficulties of life and the call of character to be good to those they disagree with..... they don't care about rights... its a word they use for their team to control everyone else

    • @karlmckinnell2635
      @karlmckinnell2635 3 дні тому

      Bureaucrats are the enemy within 😮.

    • @jeremysmith8035
      @jeremysmith8035 12 годин тому

      Erm the only reason Elon supports fascism is because their regressive policies such as dismantling the department of education protects his vested interests fascists don't believe in rights

  • @sygrovesteve5819
    @sygrovesteve5819 2 дні тому +5

    Thank you Michael. Your intelligence is well focused. Please know that there are benevolent players and energy supporting this amazing change

  • @oscarmike4596
    @oscarmike4596 9 годин тому +3

    Elon did not get the “46 billion dollar bonus payment”
    1st- Delaware activist judge has disregarding the will of the shareholders who voted 2x in favor of the pay-package.
    2nd it was NOT a ‘bonus’
    It was a pre negotiated payment package where virtually impossible metrics were required and Elon beat them all..
    This more than doubled the price of the shareholders which we really appreciate and put more EV’s on the road displacing ICE vehicles..
    I love Shellenberger but how the heck could he say something grossly false..?

  • @denize1654
    @denize1654 4 дні тому +22

    I prefer the govt being “controlled “ by the smartest people instead of the criminals.

    • @livingatpresent
      @livingatpresent 2 дні тому +2

      Then your money will go into the pocket of those smartest people. This happened in China.

    • @beaniegamer9163
      @beaniegamer9163 2 дні тому

      Ye... always lurking no matter who is in the driver seat

  • @kdjourney51
    @kdjourney51 День тому +5

    Shellenberger is a great mind.

  • @scottmallender9738
    @scottmallender9738 День тому +3

    Absolutely the Twitter Files saved our free speech by being able to question our government! That’s essential for democracy, both sides of every story…

  • @stephendimino332
    @stephendimino332 3 дні тому +15

    I bought starlink to support Elon.

    • @RexRabidest
      @RexRabidest День тому

      That's not really support. They only have limited bandwidth atm and need to expand their market.

  • @sygrovesteve5819
    @sygrovesteve5819 2 дні тому +2

    This situation IS a situation where one person can more reliably keep focus and respond much more quickly in keeping on track.
    We all have to trust that these remarkable people will stay alive for the duration of the task. This is bigger than them, and us. We really ARE living in the most remarkable time in history

  • @ChuckHolland-i4b
    @ChuckHolland-i4b 5 днів тому +16

    Disband the federal government.

    • @peachmango5347
      @peachmango5347 4 дні тому +3

      Restaff the federal government. Staff is policy.

  • @jonathanasbell
    @jonathanasbell 5 днів тому +7

    What about the young gentleman from Vermont who went to jail for tweeting against Hillary Clinton? I don't know why that case didn't come up

  • @grinch45
    @grinch45 5 днів тому +7

    Fight censorship at the person level by finding the people in conversation who say "why did you say that?" as they are the people who think they control speech. They should just be responding to what you said.

  • @oscarmike4596
    @oscarmike4596 9 годин тому +1

    Elon did not get the “46 billion dollar bonus payment”
    1st- Delaware activist judge has disregarding the will of the shareholders who voted 2x in favor of the pay-package.
    2nd it was NOT a ‘bonus’
    It was a pre negotiated payment package where virtually impossible metrics were required and Elon beat them all..
    This more than doubled the price of the stock for shareholders which we really appreciate and put more EV’s on the road displacing ICE vehicles..
    I love Shellenberger but how the heck could he say something grossly false..?

  • @tylershannon6593
    @tylershannon6593 5 днів тому +25

    Delete the bureaucracy!

    • @DetachedK
      @DetachedK 5 днів тому

      Please stfu, think what you just said. If we take away the bureaucracy than whats left, than we have a military heavy state left. Think before saying random buzzwords, we dont want to delete like kirk said we just need it to be smaller than this.

    • @KenLeonard
      @KenLeonard 5 днів тому +3

      Ah, no. Bureaucracy is a synonym for government. Deleting government is as unwise as defunding police. Right-sizing would be a better idea.

    • @SmartAss4123
      @SmartAss4123 5 днів тому +1

      @@KenLeonard Correct. The government has a place, but it has clearly gone way too far and needs to be massively downsized and restricted from what it is doing to freedoms and overreach

  • @robertstout7756
    @robertstout7756 День тому +2

    Great point, exercise before reacting.

  • @beaniegamer9163
    @beaniegamer9163 2 дні тому +3

    Good discussion... just stop monopoly

  • @sherbear8286
    @sherbear8286 5 днів тому +8

    Stay true to yourself. If you compromise, you will lose in the end anyhow.

    • @sdrc92126
      @sdrc92126 5 днів тому +1

      If you don't believe in something, you believe in nothing.

    • @NotClosedMinded
      @NotClosedMinded 4 дні тому +1

      @@sdrc92126 the saying goes like this, ''Those who don't stand for anything, will fall for everything.''

  • @DetachedK
    @DetachedK 5 днів тому +6

    The worst part is people will see this and think it can never happen and till...
    We need to refocus I think, we've spiraled into such a hedonistic society its just shameful. We almost lost to a socialist and half the country still calls President Trump a bad person, I think if the next 4 we don't refocus than after....

  • @maramclaine830
    @maramclaine830 5 днів тому +6

    Bots on board 😢😢😢

  • @nutsackbear8053
    @nutsackbear8053 5 днів тому +9

    Bill Deblasio? No! Warren Wilhelm Jr. Is his name!

    • @sdrc92126
      @sdrc92126 5 днів тому

      Bill de Blasio (/dɪˈblɑːzioʊ/; born Warren Wilhelm Jr
      🤣

  • @coolwill5241
    @coolwill5241 4 дні тому +1

    The cinematography has gotten really next level. It was already great

  • @skribe
    @skribe 5 днів тому +9

    Thankfully Trump has stated he will be making a digital bill of rights. Games and social media that are clearly for adults shouldnt monitor speech, we are all adults.

  • @4uRicki
    @4uRicki 5 днів тому +3

    Shellenberger needs to understand that these rights come from God and rejecting God is what got us into the grips of evil.

  • @arubaga
    @arubaga День тому +1

    Musk should operate a Texas based bank to support X.

  • @cindyb8504
    @cindyb8504 День тому +1

    Others will copy X’s openness cause that’s where the $ is

  • @ianskinner1619
    @ianskinner1619 4 дні тому +2

    I just wonder , 10 or less years from now, if Elon will be a Rousseau or a Robespierre in the eyes of the western world.

  • @jeremyashford2145
    @jeremyashford2145 2 дні тому +1

    A glut of useless graduates dumped from an uncensored social media would bring their incomes into keeping with their societal contribution.
    Strict observation of Section 230 could do that.
    Removing government subsidies from a useless education system would allow schools to employ the best teachers rather than the suck-ups.

  • @pretorious700
    @pretorious700 День тому +1

    Hey Michael, when NATO provokes Putin into ICBM strikes, will you still consider them a "peacekeeping entity"?

  • @andreabartolomei8217
    @andreabartolomei8217 5 днів тому +1

    «Restriction of free thought & free speech is the most dangerous of all subversions. It is the one un-American act that could most easily defeat us!» [William Orville Douglas (Jurist & SC associate justice 1939-75) - Excerpt from speech "The One Un-American Act” (on receiving “1951 Lauterbach Award” in NYC - USA-1952)]

  • @ghostramp8578
    @ghostramp8578 5 днів тому +13

    Too few views for the level of guests this channel brings in. How?

    • @Mrbfgray
      @Mrbfgray 5 днів тому +2

      Shadow banning.

    • @geesixnine
      @geesixnine 5 днів тому +2

      UA-cam bias algorithm

    • @Jeremy-Ai
      @Jeremy-Ai 5 днів тому

      It is not the number of views that matters.
      It is the responsibility of those that seek it.
      We view everything.
      Absolutely everything to ensure truthful nature is preserved by way of responsibility.
      “Now you know… do not assume from this point you were not told ok?”
      Thank you for understanding this world must change for the better and we are all responsible.
      Take care,
      Jeremy

  • @alcondragon
    @alcondragon День тому +1

    No one understands that Elon Musk is actually a Vulcan, hes had his ears shaved.
    Live long and prosper....

  • @YadraVoat
    @YadraVoat 4 дні тому +1

    7:50 - the problem with these network effects is that Twitter X remains a siloed platform and not a member of any federated protocol.

  • @JJ-bz4bq
    @JJ-bz4bq 5 днів тому +10

    Elon Musk’s Twitter banned me permanently. 😂. If the wrong person gets mad at you they just delete you from existence.

    • @hankworden3850
      @hankworden3850 5 днів тому +5

      Why?

    • @JJ-bz4bq
      @JJ-bz4bq 5 днів тому

      @ Because we aren’t allowed to question queer feminist racial Marxism.

    • @ceciliacrocker390
      @ceciliacrocker390 5 днів тому

      ​@@hankworden3850, because all platforms do it...🫠🙃

    • @bethany7363
      @bethany7363 5 днів тому

      And they shadowband. X is not a free speech platform.

    • @seasonedbeefs
      @seasonedbeefs 4 дні тому +3

      ​@@hankworden3850crickets. Banned for a reason 😂

  • @immigrant6902
    @immigrant6902 4 дні тому +2

    I wish Elon Musk would become next Rupert Murdock.

  • @sygrovesteve5819
    @sygrovesteve5819 2 дні тому +1

    fear

  • @peachmango5347
    @peachmango5347 4 дні тому +1

    Don't ever go back to Disney. Its just a name. It can be replaced if Aunt Jemima can.

    • @rwentowski
      @rwentowski 6 годин тому

      Loved Aunt Jemima and Uncle Ben’s. Made you feel comfortable and warm like hot soup on a cold day. Thought packaging on Land O’ Lakes butter was beautiful celebrating Native Americans not deprecating them. Everyone has just gone crazy trying to eliminate nurturing symbols

  • @Justice-ian
    @Justice-ian 5 днів тому +2

    Physical utilities are quasi-governmental because they inherently involve government coercion. Because we can't have five competing entrepreneurs stringing phone lines, damming rivers, or tearing up streets, the government chooses one or two, empowers them to disrupt lives in those ways for the public benefit, and awards them a tightly regulated monopoly. That bears zero resemblance whatsoever to someone who creates something that never existed before from his own ideas (especially when it's something completely subjective and dispensible like e-narcissism), then happens to out-compete [some of] his rivals.

    • @DangRenBo
      @DangRenBo 4 дні тому

      "No provider or user of an interactive computer service shall be treated as the publisher or speaker of any information provided by another information content provider." (47 U.S.C. § 230(c)(1)).
      230 should really only be in force for platforms that don't censor views they oppose. Common Carrier rights and responsibilities are very similar and should stand as the model for when to apply 230. You don't get unlimited rights with no responsibilities.

    • @Justice-ian
      @Justice-ian 4 дні тому

      @@DangRenBo I'm not denying what the law says, just the analogy between companies who created something from scratch vs. utilities whose whole business model / existence relies on government monopolies. I also think it's an overstatement that 230 created "unlimited rights with no responsibilities". Magazines and papers have always had "letters" sections where inputs are customers' and do not reflect the opinion (or liability) of the publishers; this does not (and could not - it would bankrupt a physical-media business) create a categorical responsibility to publish everything they got. I also see a very sharp distinction between ISPs (which are utilities) and social media (which provides fluff).

  • @MyrLin8
    @MyrLin8 4 дні тому +1

    Homelessness is not a 'real' issue. Government can only complicate matters.

    • @rachelvoiles9699
      @rachelvoiles9699 3 дні тому

      You’re not looking at it from all perspectives. Thr government can give incentives to cities to build more housing. The number of homes is in decline and has been for years. Homelessness isn’t just bums on the street, it’s not having enough housing for the population.

    • @bettymanning9807
      @bettymanning9807 10 годин тому

      Homelessness and masse immigration are intertwined.

  • @regolith1350
    @regolith1350 5 днів тому +17

    It cannot be overstated how much Elon Musk contributed to saving Western civilization, for now at least. It remains to be seen whether we're strong enough to extend this temporary reprieve into a more lasting freedom.

    • @brianmaguire6814
      @brianmaguire6814 5 днів тому +3

      So why am I banned on Twitter?

    • @kjshy
      @kjshy 5 днів тому

      ​@@brianmaguire6814look inward for answer first then you can blame others. If you are sincere, even dogs respond to your please. Try that first.

    • @fiyozablefaithmusic
      @fiyozablefaithmusic 5 днів тому

      True censorship is in North Korea, China,...where they don't know do much....I don't believe we ate even close to totalitarianism

    • @thomasjgour4678
      @thomasjgour4678 4 дні тому

      ​@@kjshyI'm banned from x for saying masks don't work during the pandemic so please spare me

    • @Flash3-22
      @Flash3-22 День тому

      How is he saving Western civilization??
      Just because he owns X?

  • @MyrLin8
    @MyrLin8 4 дні тому +1

    If it complicates the argument it is not the best idea or method. Occam's Razor.

  • @Corteum
    @Corteum 2 дні тому

    This guy is a bit of a hypnotist lol

  • @sandramcarthur1866
    @sandramcarthur1866 2 дні тому +3

    I believe in Musks goodness

    • @Flash3-22
      @Flash3-22 День тому

      Hope you don't have any family that works in government.

    • @austinhoffa99
      @austinhoffa99 22 години тому

      @@Flash3-22cry me a river dude .

  • @EliyasKhan-q9y
    @EliyasKhan-q9y 5 годин тому

    ❤El

  • @Jeremy-Ai
    @Jeremy-Ai 5 днів тому +1

    “Elon Musk and his family are already protected… it would be up to each of them to abuse and abandon this protection “

  • @carbon1479
    @carbon1479 3 дні тому +2

    Someone needs to make a meme with Trump, Musk, Ramaswamy, Vance, and maybe Milei singing the 'Age of Aquarius'.

  • @charlieking9214
    @charlieking9214 5 днів тому

    It's so creepy when people are interviewing guests and the guests are not looking at them.

    • @willmercury
      @willmercury 5 днів тому

      Thanks for your contribution! It really enhanced my engagement with the content of this conversation!

    • @charlieking9214
      @charlieking9214 5 днів тому

      @willmercury Not sure if the camera angle is off, or he is reading off a note board. Whatever it is, it doesn't appear fully organic.
      Thank you for the content.

    • @travisjazzbo3490
      @travisjazzbo3490 4 дні тому

      🙄

  • @pamelahall7614
    @pamelahall7614 3 дні тому

    Or it is a step toward it

  • @highseasailing8624
    @highseasailing8624 5 днів тому

  • @JackSparrowTheCAPTAIN
    @JackSparrowTheCAPTAIN 3 дні тому

    It's funny because it's true.

  • @outtolunch2834
    @outtolunch2834 4 дні тому +1

    Libertarian and oh boy have my comments been deleted over and over again. They're right to hate me i have to admit since i believe many of them shouldn't exist and i ask too many questions.

  • @terezagrbin4357
    @terezagrbin4357 4 дні тому +2

    totally agree if EM didn't get twitter we totally lost democracy,

    • @Flash3-22
      @Flash3-22 День тому

      Thought we are a Constitutional Republic???

  • @orionhauk2968
    @orionhauk2968 2 дні тому

    Elon's relationship w/ China & Trump's with Russia could end up forcing millions to be dependent on Starlink at a huge cost should the 2 adversaries cut fiber-optic internet cables and transmission towers

  • @Ringo-v7c
    @Ringo-v7c День тому

    2+2=🙂

  • @llardfortran2526
    @llardfortran2526 4 дні тому

    why is everyone ignoring Gab?

  • @Balqis-ti1uf
    @Balqis-ti1uf 3 дні тому

    What makes him king.. answer chat bots 🤖

  • @JenniferKayser-t3y
    @JenniferKayser-t3y 5 днів тому

    Thanks for the forecast! A bit off-topic, but I wanted to ask: My OKX wallet holds some USDT, and I have the seed phrase. (alarm fetch churn bridge exercise tape speak race clerk couch crater letter). What's the best way to send them to Binance?

  • @riffmondo9733
    @riffmondo9733 5 днів тому +3

    He still censors lots of dissenting voices.
    He is part and parcel of the corporate establishment.
    Stop!

  • @Schnubbelchen007
    @Schnubbelchen007 4 дні тому +3

    I‘d say, Twitter was yesterday. Switch to bluesky

    • @phil00075
      @phil00075 День тому

      Bluesky is not any different than the biased liberal media establishment

  • @CaraRamelow-c6i
    @CaraRamelow-c6i 4 дні тому +2

    Dear Elon. Please save us from Bill Gates now.

  • @NQISSteve
    @NQISSteve 5 днів тому +1

    Audience capture only matters to Grifters not truth tellers you just lost me mate .

  • @luhsprwhk
    @luhsprwhk 4 дні тому +1

    Waste of time as always from Schellenberger. No thanks 👎

  • @dantescave1
    @dantescave1 4 дні тому +1

    The FELON era begins

    • @travisjazzbo3490
      @travisjazzbo3490 4 дні тому

      Actually that is ending in mid January - THANK GOD

  • @jonathanasbell
    @jonathanasbell 5 днів тому +2

    of all the things in the world why does trans get such attention and weight? I mean we have many more problems

    • @willmercury
      @willmercury 5 днів тому

      Agreed. So why don't the alphabeticals just STFU and stop compelling others to participate in their role-playing games? But, of course, chemically castrating and surgically mutilating a generation of children does seem to be a rather exigent concern, doesn't it?

    • @wiggly103
      @wiggly103 3 дні тому

      Money from elite donors especially Democrat party donors. The Pritzker family, a billionaire family has invested millions upon millions to push trans ideology because one of the Pritzker heirs is trans. The other son is the governor of Illinois and the third heir is a Biden appointee. The entire family is deep in Democrat party politics and wield a lot of power. They want to normalize trans stuff because of the trans heir. There is another Democrat donor who makes a lot of money from trans surgery etc. Actually the whole lgbtq ideology was a top down ideology which came about due to rich elite donors who were lgbtq who wanted their lifestyle normalized and gay marriage legalized so invested a lot of money to buy Democrat party politicians to get them to change laws and educational curriculum to normalize the lifestyle and teach children the lifestyle. They were wildly successful and because of that thought they would be able to also normalize trans ideology for kids. That’s why the Jazz Jennings show was greenlit. Traditionally Democrats have been able to use media (Hollywood, tv, newspapers) to influence Americans into accepting their social agenda. But that influence is waning and people are seeing through the propaganda and manipulation

  • @PFlow007
    @PFlow007 2 години тому

    Not true... Trump Social is excellent... you just dont use it...

  • @anp901
    @anp901 День тому

    I wish UA-cam could hear my F you every time I skip these annoying ads after every 5 minutes.

  • @jdf_132
    @jdf_132 4 дні тому +1

    How much have you received from Musk to say this?

    • @DaxVJacobson
      @DaxVJacobson День тому

      You're a special kind of stupid!

  • @adoudenhuysen
    @adoudenhuysen 2 дні тому

    Bull shit. Why did he not start a new platform. Bleusky is the example.

  • @justanotherhuman2961
    @justanotherhuman2961 День тому

    John you gotta stop using so many big words. Its isolating for the rest of us who didn't spend 10 years in college.

  • @bethany7363
    @bethany7363 5 днів тому +1

    The worshipping of Elon is off the chain. I used to have respect for schellenberg, but now, i just see him as another one trying to protect the DS.

  • @MyrLin8
    @MyrLin8 4 дні тому

    ? looses his mind ... hahahahaha ... sorry Elon, not true obviously, but it's just a funny pov.

  • @RFG0neWON1969
    @RFG0neWON1969 5 днів тому

    #FREESPEECH #QUITBEINGASNOWfLake #90sMENTALITY #REALMENVIBE

  • @BobSmith-lb9nc
    @BobSmith-lb9nc 4 дні тому

    Nope, Mike. Our free speech rights are based on our social contract, the U.S. Constitution, not on any grant of that right from God or nature. Your personal feelings are irrelevant.

    • @MisakaMikotoDesu
      @MisakaMikotoDesu 4 дні тому

      That's wrong. Rights such as speech are "inalienable" because they cannot be taken away from you. The state can punish you for speech, but it can never prevent you from expressing yourself so long as you're alive.

    • @BobSmith-lb9nc
      @BobSmith-lb9nc 4 дні тому

      @@MisakaMikotoDesu The Supreme Court has made it clear that the Declaration of Independence has no legal standing in American law. You might want to study history and law before injecting your own personal or religious beliefs onto the American scene. As for your personal views on the state, in America you and I are the state. We have nobody to blame but ourselves if we lose our rights.

    • @MisakaMikotoDesu
      @MisakaMikotoDesu 4 дні тому

      @@BobSmith-lb9nc This isn't law, it's philosophy. How are you going to stop someone from saying something if they do not care about the consequences? How would you stop someone from thinking something? You can't, you can only react to people expressing themselves, not prevent it.

    • @BobSmith-lb9nc
      @BobSmith-lb9nc 4 дні тому

      @@MisakaMikotoDesu Your comment here is a non sequitur. You need a class in ConLaw. The U.S. Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and the Supreme Court interprets it. Yokels live outside that system.

    • @MisakaMikotoDesu
      @MisakaMikotoDesu 3 дні тому +1

      How is that a non-sequitur?
      You logically can't prevent people from expressing themselves, you can only punish them for it. This isn't an argument about laws. That's why they're referred to as inalienable rights by the Founding Fathers.
      My goodness, you need to be able to understand simple logic if you want to act like an intellectual.

  • @throckmortensnivel2850
    @throckmortensnivel2850 5 днів тому +4

    Elon Musk is suing advertisers who don't want to advertise on his media platform. That's Musk's defintion of "free speech". Free speech for me, but not for thee.

    • @janick01ify
      @janick01ify 5 днів тому

      If all the top companies get together and decide to do something to the same person as a group, that's monopolistic behavior.
      I believe it's called a Cartel.
      Im pretty sure that it's illegal.
      it might be grey area now bc no one has been powerful enough to expose the cartels god-like power

    • @anthonybrett
      @anthonybrett 5 днів тому

      You left out the part about the obvious conspiracy of Global Alliance for Responsible Media, a far left group who funnily enough use the same slogan you did..."Free speech for me, but not for thee."

    • @Foolofatook889
      @Foolofatook889 5 днів тому

      If an individual company decides not to advertise that’s fine, but if they create a cartel to coordinate their efforts to kill a platform (Google GARM) that’s the problem. The Daily Wire is also suing for their collusion.

    • @neildees1761
      @neildees1761 5 днів тому +2

      You have the simplest understanding of the advertising boycott I've ever seen.

    • @tensor_verkampen
      @tensor_verkampen 5 днів тому +3

      A "group boycott" is an antitrust violation. The advertisers settled before the trial even began, and their group ("GARM"), disbanded as a result of the lawsuit.

  • @sygrovesteve5819
    @sygrovesteve5819 2 дні тому

    This situation IS a situation where one person can more reliably keep focus and respond much more quickly in keeping on track.
    We all have to trust that these remarkable people will stay alive for the duration of the task. This is bigger than them, and us. We really ARE living in the most remarkable time in history