After watching this I understand why so many old tractors and small engines used to have glass bowls under the gas tanks. The glass bowl would have a shutoff valve so you could easily remove the glass bowl and drain the water from the fuel tank.
Yup all my old jeeps had the glass separation bowls. Then along came this ethanol CRAP and when the weather turned to freezing my glass bowls would break. I still hate the stuff. It's nothing but a government subsidiary. It actually costs more money to produce than gasoline.
miss those but you can buy them still to add On my older trucks I bought those fuel water separators with the spin on filters that you see used on boats They have a drain cock to check for water too . Marine stores sell them .
Taryl, I wish I would’ve had you as a teacher back in school. Not only would I have paid attention and learned great things but got a good laugh at the same time. Like always, I love new videos from you guys and in between I’m watching the older ones. Have a great week fellas!
I was in the petroleum industry for 20 years. It was very quickly that I realized the fuel industry prices are controlled by banks and brokers. Not oil companies. Ethanol is part of the petroleum, fuel industry. Most ethanol plants, or distillery's are run by a major grane brokerage company. Ethanol in it self is a excellent racing fuel. With a octane rating of 117 on average. Then comes the EPA. And the ATF. When ethanol is distilled from corn it's pure corn whisky. Some of it is sold to pharmaceutical companies for night time cold remedies, mouth wash, hand sanitizer, ect. But the ATF will never allow corn whisky to be moved with out there tax revenue. So ethanol for fuel must be denaturalized so it can not be consumed. 5 percent of the ethanol is injected with denaturalizing fluid. That fluid is 3 percent acetone, 1 percent benzene, 1 percent formaldehyde. That fluid along with the ethanol, and chemicals in the gasoline cause a lot of fuel problems we now have. One of the biggest issues is pump gas has a very short shelf life. All the chemicals will separate and make other chemicals in the liquid. There is a lot of conspiracy talk about that. You decide.
Taryl this video on ethanol is one of the best I have seen you do. If you do more of these teaching videos you will never give out of content for your great channel.
19:24 Correction, gas, diesel and kerosene are all by products of crude oil. That's what refining is all about. Each one has it's own specific gravity. Diesel has a heavier weight that kerosene and kerosene is heavier than gasolene.
Taryl, You are an exceptional plethora of information. One heck of a successful teacher. What a generous service you do , learning & putting forth the effort to educate the masses whom are interested. What ever the money you make off this channel & merch. is absolutely worth it. I hope God has made you prosper more than the old school jobs in your field like high school shop teacher or VoTeck college teacher. Thank you for your generous consideration, Sincerely .................. God Bless.
E10 does not result in 10% poorer MPG but in early 1980s automobiles with early O2 sensors. Later designs only use the O2 sensor as a reference, doesn’t blindly do anything the O2 sensor orders. In a modern engine E10 results in a 2% or less hit on MPG.
I use 91 octane 0 ethanol and by doing so I average about 100km more per fill up vs using 87 or 89 octane with up to 10% ethanol. People didn't believe me so I said next time you fill up, let your tank run low and do it for 2-3 tanks and clock off your mileage. The ones that were willing to try also noticed more mileage and the vehicle ran better as well. The difference in cost is only about $3 more per fill up and actually made it cheaper vs regular if I had bought the extra gas to get the equivalent milage using regular with ethanol. YMMV but I DO NO use any fuel with ethanol anymore.
@N4HHE based on energy content it's supposedly could be 3%. Generally higher octane has no value unless engine knocjs or engine designed for higher octane. However I've been using 91 octane in my colorado because I'm anti ethanol. It ruins small engines. However occasionally I do put 87 octane ethanol in the truck. It's almost like my mileage improves. Maybe because computer expects 87 ethanol. I know some scanners can get an alcohol number and if it's way off actual fuel performance can be bad. Going to ask my mechanic if my colorado might have that.
Your 10% less mileage results in more power and a much cleaner engine - engine management system detects ethanol ratio and adjusts air/fuel ratio accordingly. Considering E-85 is 75 cents less per gallon, you can't go wrong using E-85 in a flex fuel vehicle.
Taryl your the best ! I looked at this issue because I had never heard of it before and this is what I found .The dark, sludge-like substance that often forms in diesel fuel tanks is actually a buildup of microbes, not algae. This is because algae require sunlight to grow, which is unavailable in a closed, dark diesel tank. Algae in Diesel? Algae belong in the sea! The microbes that grow in diesel fuel include bacteria, mold, and fungus. They can create a slimy film that coats fuel tanks and lines and can clog filters and cause engine damage. This is often referred to as "diesel algae", "diesel fuel slime", or "diesel bacteria". The microbes grow in the oxygen-rich environment between the diesel fuel and a layer of water that has separated from the fuel. This is known as "phase separation". The microbes consume the diesel fuel's hydrocarbons and produce waste products that can cause corrosion and engine fouling. Signs of contamination include: Hard starts, Excess exhaust, Failed pumps, Clogged injectors, and Clogged filters
That's why, even in MN, we very seldom have gas line freeze anymore. Until a gas station gets so much water that the alcohol can't absorb any more then you get a rash of dead cars.
When I was a kid and worked in fillin' stations in the seventies. we dipped the tanks every evening. Too much water in the bottom and the tank service would have to vacuum it out. Sweet Saudi Crude in the tank. Thirty five cents a gallon. Ran my VW bug for week on 1 tank Then the OPECs shut it down.. Filled up at opening and if someone saw me, the line started. Sold more gas every day and week than we ever had done. Crappier fuel from Alaska, but still better than Tar sands that we run today in Washington State.
Taryl I have been Watching your Channel for a Long Time and have learned so much but This one is Very Educational ! Thank You for taking the time out of your Busy day runny a Repair shop to Pass on your Knowledge
Diesel engines compress the air, then at the timing point, the fuel is injected. You are correct in that the temperature generated by the compression causes ignition, but it does not occur until the fuel is injected. So, the Diesel does have ignition timing, but it's not from spark timing, it's form the fuel injection timing.
@@joeyl.rowland4153 No, injection on a diesel happens at the point of ignition. It is the point of ignition. Not at all like a gasoline engine. However, it does happen before TDC in order for maximum pressure to build. The compressed air in the cylinder is hot enough to ignite the injected Diesel oil.
@@joeyl.rowland4153 OFFS, just go and read about it. The injector injects the oil at nearly 40,000 PSI, it is atomized at the nozzle. Can we now quit dragging your ignorance out in the open? Here is a quote from Cummins. You know, the people that make Diesel engines? "In the cylinder, air is compressed by the upward movement of the piston. As the piston nears the top of its path, an electrical signal is sent to the solenoid, causing the injector needle to lift, and allowing high pressure fuel (up to 37,000 psi) to flow through the nozzle and into the combustion chamber to mix with air. Because of the elevated temperature created by the compression stroke, the air-fuel mixture auto-ignites, creating power and driving the engine's pistons. The combination of high fuel pressure and exceptionally fine injector nozzle holes ensures optimal mixing of air and fuel to meet even stricter emissions standards. In diesel engines, a fuel injector can fire multiple pulses in a single power stroke which can be used for noise mitigation and emissions control."
You're right on with that observation, back in the 80's we had small 2 stroke engines for model airplanes that were called "Diesels" but weren't. They used a fuel that had a small amount of ether in in. The exact formulation escapes me atm but it used a 2 stroke cycle and had a cylinder head that had a counter piston that you would crank down with a thumbscrew to increase the compression ratio or back it off to start it at a lower compression. The carb would introduce the fuel/air into the cylinder and we'd start the engine my flicking the prop on lower compression ratio, then when it fired we'd tighten the thumbscrew to run . We called them "compression ignition" engines....and they had a glow plug too but once running we'd disconnect the battery and the engine would happily run.
Hi from a viewer from France, parrafin is wax,they used to use it as a kind of heating oil,it's liquidity,it was used for heating.Diesel has both water and oil in it,mainly to lubricate the pump,.Kerosiene is commonly known as Jet-A1,for jet engines.Kerosiene is dehydrated diesel,they have to remove the oil and water 'cause at 30,000 feet it'll freeze.
@@frankakers4333 Water is not created by ethanol. Water accumulates in tanks from moisture in ambiant air condesating on it's inside surfaces, ethanol will absorb part of it, straight gas won't. Keep your tank and fuel containers as full as possible as less air translates to less water in the fuel.
@@drcovellAnd anti-phase separation additives, they break fuel particles, water droplets, etc into sub-micron sized particles, then get flushed out as fuel burnt..keeps bacteria down too..along with antimicrobial
Many farm tractors were kerosene back at the turn of the last century. Some had a dual carb and a small tank of gas. Water injection was used with kero in many cases. I used kero in my B&S push mower back in the day. I just did it, didn't read a manual.
I knew someone had this information other than myself, on here. My 1930 D John Deere tractor as well as others were "duel fuel". My D also has the water valve .
Back in the early 80's, I put about half a tank of diesel in a Dodge van. (10 gallons ) It worked ok, did smoke a little, otherwise it ran ok and got better fuel mileage than just gas alone. However, when the engine was cold, I would give it a shot of starting fluid, and it ran a little rough for about 30 seconds then would smooth out.
To add clarity to your points on diesel algae, its not actually "algae" since algae is a plant and requires sunlight to exist. Diesel slime is actually microbes that form a biomass
@@dennisgood2108 Pretty much so but not pure DEF (Diesel Exhaust Fluid) is a solution consisting of only two ingredients: Urea: The primary active ingredient, comprising approximately 32.5% of the solution. Urea is a nitrogen-rich compound derived from natural sources, such as ammonia and carbon dioxide. Deionized water: The remaining 67.5% of the solution, which is highly purified water. These two ingredients are mixed together to create a clear, colorless liquid that resembles water. The precise formulation of DEF is designed to ensure its effectiveness in reducing nitrogen oxide (NOx) emissions in diesel engines equipped with Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) technology.
Some years ago, i had water in my tractor gas tank. I dumped a whole bottle of Heat in the tank that only had about 3 gallons of has in it. I looked into thee tank and it looked like the Heat grabbed the water and held it in BB sized balls, on the bottom of the tank. The tractor ran for maybe a half hour before it stalled. The water had collected in the carb bowl until it wouldn't hold enough gas to run. I drained the bowl until gas ran through. Started the engine again. It got me back to the house where i drained the tank and filled it with fresh gas.
Hi Taryl, My brother Tom the Z-Man introduced me to your channel, we usually have you on as background while we work on various mechanical projects. We like learning noise. Anyway a few years ago a biker friend of mine said you can make your own Rec Fuel by adding the same amount of water as the alcohol then shake it up then let it settle for a night and the alcohol will absorb the water. So say you have 3 gallons (384 ounces) of premium gasoline with 10% alcohol (38.4 ounces) you would add 38.4 ounces of water then shake vigorously for a minute or so then let it sit overnight 8-12 hours. It will separate into the gasoline (top layer) and alcohol/water (bottom clear layer.) and there is now 77 ounces of water/alcohol, I siphon the clear layer off and I'm left with gasoline with no alcohol. Its now Rec Fuel!
I had a little tractor when i was a kid that had a 2hp Briggs. I ran it on kerosene pretty ofter because we usually had that at the house. I would run a tank of gas through it and while it was still running but low on gas I would fill it up with kerosene. Real safe. I would the open up the carb adjustment screw about a full turn and it would run all day on it.
Thankfully we just have ethanol free fuel still available here. It's about a dollar more than "regular" gas but it's a must for small engines, boats, ATVs, etc. I even recommend it in cars that aren't run often because fuel with ethanol in it goes bad far more quickly than pure gas.
I don't put anything but ethanol free in my yard tools. I get mine at Co-Op. Well worth the extra $$$. In 6 years I've never had an engine fail to start after being set up for the winter. It's also been a while since I've had to replace a rotted fuel line as well. I store my Harleys for the winter with a full tank of ethanol free.
@@im2yys4u81yup. In my chainsaw goes only pure gas. Every man is born with a finite number of pulls in his shoulder, and I’m not wasting any of mine on shitty gas.
Many of these snake oils were concocted before they started adding ethanol to the gasoline, so they did work, to a certain extent. That's why Heet built a good reputation, since it's basically pure wood alcohol. With a gravity feed setup, a piece of equipment with a little water in the gas wouldn't run, because the carb was filling up on pure water. Pour that Heet in there and give it a swish, drain the carb bowl of water, and unless it was LOADED with water, the motor would pop off. AMAZING!!! The military used a lot of Multi-Fuel engines in the old days. When they went to the low sulfur diesel, that's when the prices went way up... All to keep people from seeing smoke from the exhaust
One thing about phase separation, you can take advantage of it. You can use it to strip the ethanol out of gas by figuring out 10% of the amount of fuel you have then putting in that amount of water. The ethanol and water will separate out and you'll be left with a sort of E0 gas afterwards. Now this fuel still isn't that great since modern fuel is garbage, but it will keep the fuel from absorbing as much in the way of moisture and will help it to last a bit longer on the shelf. I've even taken and had push mowers where there was water in the tank but the gas seemed fine so I unhooked the fuel line, let the fuel flow into a bottle, then poured off the gas from the bottle back into the tank and did this a few times until no more water was coming out.
You must be careful when doing this! The Ethanol in E10 gas is used to establish the octane rating. I have no idea how much, but you are definitely lowering the octane rating by removing the ethanol. Ethanol free gas uses different additives to establish the octane rating.
In my fifties now, but when I was just a wee lad, found algae growing in the diesel fuel on the tractor we used. Still have that image because I couldn't believe algae could grow in diesel.
I had algae in a gasoline tank… And that’s actually the black crap that accumulates around your fuel caps… Mold that grows in the moisture that the ethanol attracts.
ive seen mossy looking plant life grow straight through 26ga galvalume roofing without any protrusion other than whatever microscopic ones the plant made. micro, or nearly microscopic, plantlife is hardcore. Now, if yall could find a micro whale, a diesel whale , then you're in b'ness. lol.
@@lsj1 I was really confused the first time I saw it but even with the presence of fuel… Anywhere moisture exists … Algae can grow. Where the water settles on the bottom or where condensation occurs on tank walls or where the ethanol attracts moisture to the area around the filler cap on the outside even.
@handbananaistherapist642 awful. Honestly my personal experience is only the good ones suffer and are taken young. Had he been a freeloader, their, liar and whatever somehow he would've lived a long happy healthy life. From what I knew of him he wouldn't have it any other way though, he remained unbroken taking it all on with his head held high keeping every ounce of honor. R.I.P Paul...perhaps one pf the most unlikely modern heros to countless people he never got the chance to ever know how much he did for them
@handbananaistherapist642 That stinks. Lost an uncle to pancreatic cancer. I have pancreas issues. So tired of the B's in this world. I could go anytime wouldn't bother me a bit.
Diesel and kerosene are the first products out when high gravity crude is cracked. In the past it was cheaper, but the gov't decided the diesel couldn't have any sulphur in it, so the price went up. Takes a lot of refining to get out the sulphur. During WWII kerosene was burned in cars because gas was rationed. Not a lot of demand for kerosene now, so price is higher.
The old John Deere twin cylinder tractors were designed to run on gasoline, kerosene, and "tractor fuel" (low octane gasoline). These were old tractors from a time when fuel might be hard to come by and a farmer might only have a good supply of kerosene, etc. The fuel shut-off, the correct way to shut down the engine was marked G for Gas, F for Fuel, and Off. They used two fuel tanks, a small one for gasoline to start on, and a larger one for whatever fuel you happened to have on hand. They also had shutters on the radiator to maintain the engine temperature high enough for the other fuels. Once the temp rose to about 175 to 180 degrees you would flip the fuel lever to the larger tank and run on that. The owners manual (from the 1940's) stated that shutting down by turning off the fuel meant that no raw fuel was left in the cylinder to potentially dilute the oil around the rings allowing for easier starting and a longer engine life. I think they must have had that right because those tractors are still running today. I use that process for shutting down with my 1941 Ford 9N as well as my two-cycle equipment. I don't really notice much difference with the old Ford but there's a lot to be gained by not leaving 2-cycle fuel in carburetors while they are sitting for long periods of time.
Nice thing about small engines is that most fuel tanks are gravity feed . Just open bottom of fuel bowl and get rid of water until you smell or feel fuel. Then good to go. May need to clean ports in carb if slime or corrosion has blocked jets and rods.
Another factor is that the amount of water ethanol can bind to changes based on temperature. Higher temperatures increase solubility and lower temperatures reduce solubility. So water that has bonded to it (in the summer) may be released when you lower the temperature (aka winter).
Someone may have noted this but a diesel engine does not compress the fuel air mixture like a gas engine does. It compresses only the air on throttled and then the injector squirts in fuel under high pressure close to top dead center. The fuel and ignites from the heat of the compressor. That controls the timing of the fuel injection.otherwise there'd be no way to control at what point does the fuel light off
Taryl, the best thing I saw for water removal while I was small engine mechanic was the little hand operated pump with a 12" long sucker tube that you'd stick down in the fuel tank where the water sits, pump until you get straight gas.
I wonder if the benefit of running on kerosene or gasoline was a selling point because of the recent world war. That engine was made not long after WW2 was over, and as you know, gas was rationed but remote homesteads had kerosene as a means to warm homes, etc. Apparently, kerosene was more available.
I'm with you. When I heard him say gas has a high flash point my ears perked up and I thought this guy has it ass backwards I always knew it to have a low Flashpoint maybe someone will explain it to him
Exactly. Very bad times, same thing here in the USA. The government issued 'gasoline ration stamps' to everyone, only a few gallons a month were allowed to be purchased. WAR SUCKS !!!!!
Many folks in the UK also built wood burners for their vehicles and ran them off of the fumes of the burning wood. They plumbed the burnt wood gases to the carb with a big pipe and from what I read, the engines ran pretty much like normal. With today's computer engines you couldn't do this but old school carbed engines will run fine on burnt wood gases. Not very safe or practical, but it beat walking.
Have multiple dual fuel tractors in my collection. Some run gas/distillate while others are gas/diesel. Back when they were new gasoline was around 60-70 cents a gallon but "tractor distillate" was in the 10-20 cent range. My F-20 still runs on both and yes it is somewhat of a mess to run it, but when you looked at the original cost savings it was a big thing. These days I run it just to demonstrate the system. Start it on gas, run it until it was warmed up, then you adjust the exhaust damper to get the engine running hotter and heat the carb up to atomize the kerosene better. Close the front radiator curtains as well. Then you would slowly open the main tank (distillate) valve. You could hear the engine note change some as well. Then you adjusted the timing on the lever at the operators station. Once it was running good you turned off the gas valve and ran it until the tasks were done. Then you opened the gas valve back up, retarded the timing some and closed the distillate valve then opened the shutters and the exhaust damper, as it switched back to gasoline. You also needed to check the oil more often and there are drain valves on the oil pan for that. Those allowed you to drain off contaminated oil then top up with fresh. My grandfather and father both ran the tractor back then and dad remarked that you could always tell the kerosene tractors at night because the entire exhaust system would be glowing hot from the heat it took to keep them running..
Marine mechanic since 1979 here. Only methyl alcohol can get water to mix into gas and be burned . Best to pump out fuel consumption completely. We use fuel/ water separator filters on most larger engines. Marina fuel usually has no alcohol. I also tested all these products on boat in Florida in glass jars. As Taryl says that it cant remove large amounts of water . I use Berrymans cheap and cleans varnish .
We can only buy E5 and E10 in my country. Never had any problems with it as long as its fresh from the pump, and i use about 2 gallons (8-9liters) each week for as long as the grass keeps growing. When its time to put the tractor to sleep for the winter period which is about 6months from october to april i empty the fuel tank and run the carb dry. then fill the fuel tank with 1 liter of Aspen two stroke alkylate fuel, the same as i use for the weed wacker and then start it up again and let it sit idle for a couple of minutes. After 6months i just fill the tank with fresh gas and it fires right up.
Speaking of snake oil salesmen, years ago my car would run shitty in the winter time. Someone told me to put in some dry gas. I did and it was like having done a tune up. The gas tank causes condensation especially if you are cheap like I was and only had a quarter tank or so. Later, I found out by MSDS sheets that dry gas is isopropyl alcohol. The marketing companies fill up containers with water, yes water, and isopropyl alcohol and charge extra high price for something you can buy at the drug store or on line real cheap.
Yes, I am also Wisconsin, and Frog origin. I met the dental anomaly Man one time, in passing. He is nice, and his little Son too rofl. Strength! GODsp33d!
Very informative, thank you! I have replaced many carburetors whose metal innards are a lump of corrosion because ethanol gas was left in them for years, so I know it does absorb moisture, unlike pure gasoline. I use ethanol gas in our mowers, chippers, etc. with no problem, but always drain them before winter storage. Extra gas I simply pour into the car gas tank. BTW, here (Baltimore MD) it is nearly impossible to find no-ethanol gasoline. The pumps always have the feel-good disclaimer about how the added ethanol saves the planet. LOL.
When you fly small planes part of your pre flight inspection is to check your fuel at the bottom of the tank with a fuel tester and if you see water caused by condensation you keep checking it and dumping it until there is no more water in the tank .
The one thing I didn't know, was the B/S made engines that had kerosene conversion kits. That's interesting. Also the single cylinder diesel small engine. I have never seen one of those before!
The problem with having ethanol in your fuel is the fact that it turns into acid when exposed to air. So that fuel sitting in the bowl of the carburator that's vented to the atmosphere, causes it to turn acidic and will corrode the carburator to the point that it needs to be replaced!!!
I've own 36 engine that only runs 6 months in a years... carbs are always clean when we open them... if your engine sit for longer, you should flush the carb anyway...
@@evanchi9460 If you know anything about making vinegar which is an acid, you would know that to make vinegar you just need to leave the cork out of a bottle of wine, the alcohol will turn to vinegar.
I don't blame ethanol so much, I think it's related to the refining process. Notice too, fuel shelf life is considerably shorter than it used to be. Also in many parts of south america, alcohol content is very high and they don't seem to have issues. That said, a big problem with biofuels is water content is high because it's difficult to remove from these fuels.
@@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259yeah I think a lot of stuff they use to denature the alcohol is what causes most of the issues. Ethanol has been around for awhile now and don’t think it was an issue so much when it first come out then the epa stuck their noses in and messed it all up. There was a pod cast I listen to a couple times of a guy who refined ethanol for racing and it’s quite interesting why they put it in gasoline now. He states it’s cause the gas is so bad it needs it to meet octane requirements.
My old 2N Ford tractor had the option for kerosene operation for units sold during WWII as gasoline was highly rationed. Required a pre-heat system and modified carburetor to allow operation on a 6:1 compression ratio flat head engine. Great explanation, well done.
My grandparents, when they were serving as medical missionaries in India in the early part of of the last century, had a Model T that would run on kerosene (lamp oil) easily available there. It needed gasoline to start, which they bought in glass jars at the "chemists" (pharmacy).
Very useful information as usual. If you don't do anything else when you're done with your power equipment for the season, please drain the fuel. You will save yourself aggravation and frustration. Mechanics at our local marina and small gas engine repair shop tell me that fuel problems are the most common problems they deal with. If you have non-ethanol gas in your area, use it. Avoid ethanol.
We still have 92 octane with no ethanol in south dakota that's all I run in atvs and power equipment and when iam towing with my pickup stays fresh for alot longer sitting in my atvs over the winter or snowblower over the summer
Hi taryl. Back in the 70's I worked for a oil company. There used to be a paste you put on a dipstick to see how much water was in a tank of gasoline. If it got to a certain level, we locked out the tank and the water at the bottom was either pumped out or drained out of the bottom. Your video was spot on.
@El_Peto you are correct. The paste we had turned blue, same concept. We had a tanker we pumped out the tank and disposed of the water at a recycling point back then. I think they either burned it or recycled it somehow.
I had a 1980 Mercedes 300D that had a water/fuel separator from a Semi on it. A 10 Micron filter was in it. Never a problem with injectors or fuel pump even with 475K miles on it. I sold the car after the body started to rust off of the frame to a guy that only wanted the engine.
my deisel equipment does not fail me except for when air gets in the lines before the pump. my gasoline equipment are chronically and frustratingly (i mean hopping mad) getting clots in the jet so i have to access bowl and find tools and drop bowl and augeur the jet on a fleet every two weeks new fuel lines or not.
Just to clarify a little - water sitting under gas isn't phase separation. It's just water being *more* dense than gas. When you see an inch at the bottom of the tank what has happened is that more water than could be held by the ethanol was added and the water and all of the ethanol "phase separate" and you end up with a large layer of diluted alcohol underneath the newly low octane gas on top. That is how that ethanol testing tube works FYI - it pulls all the ethanol out of the gas and into the water.
@ourback,,, I think you accidentally flipped your second sentence, as you typed, "It's just water being less dense than gas",,, ⛽⛽⛽ But as you know, water is MORE dense than gas ⛽...
Yes. Water can exist in three phases. Solid (ice), Liquid or vapor (gaseous). Alcohol absorbs the vapor phase of water, and once it reaches saturation, the water precipitates (condenses) to liquid water, when any more water vapor attracted is to the alcohol the water separates from the alcohol, hence "phase separation".
@@trunkmonkey9417 The alcohol is more strongly attracted to the water than the gasoline, so when the water falls out, the alcohol comes with it, and you have boozy water at the bottom of the tank and low octane non-oxygenated gasoline above it.
Great video as always. I use Briggs & Stratton Fuel Fit in my shop fuel (5% ethanol) and in own machines - and it does what is says on the bottle - it delays phase seperation by up to 12 months - but it will not remove water introduced to the fuel (condensation, leaky gas caps etc.) I think many of the products work fine but are over sold as a cure-all - which does not exist and cannot replace a yearly service with carb bowl and tank cleaning. It will make your fresh ethanol gas last a bit longer - and that's it. Thanks again for tackling this topic 👍👍
For the past 30 years plus, I spend the extra money and purchase non-ethanol and mix it with Marine-grade Sta-Bil to power all of my outdoor power equipment. And I buy canned high octane non-ethanol for all of my two-cycle equipment. No issues period.
Haven't gotten thru the Whole Video yet... He is just talking about Phase Separation now. Was a bit disappointed that he painted "All" the "Snake Oils" with such a Broad Brush right at the Start. In both the "Short" and "Long Term" tests STABIL 360 was one of the last standing Stabilizer Additives. It probably (IMO) should get more Praise for how it Performed. When doing those tests they probably should have tried/compared "360" (Amber) along with its more common/popular "Storage" (Red) product along with all the others. Why? Because 360 isn't really meant for Storage. It's primarily meant for "In Season" use/protection... It also only claims to Stabilize for 12 month. As he said they did their long term testing for 19 months, and it while it still worked well... the fuel was showing evidence of breaking down. Their Short Term (Over Winter Storage) Testing really highlighted which Fuel Stabilizers actually could/couldn't "cut it". Some looked "clean" and while others (some with claims of 24-36 month protection) showed various levels of fuel degradation. They only had "one job" (well they had various ones, but at the very least keeping the Fuel "looking" fresh in the Fuel System... Seems like the biggest and easiest(?) task.). If that 24-36 month Stabilizer could at least keep the fuel looking "clean" for 19 months... Seems like people wouldn't have simple proof that "it" is Snake Oil.
Running on kerosene was used to power generators for long periods of time for running roadside electric signs back in the 60s. Tecumseh had a similar setup. It worked well
i still like seafoam for its ability to remove surging of the engine from varnish in the carb. also use marvels mystery oil in the gas as a lubricant. keeps my machines happy.
Oil is abiotic. Not plants or dinosaurs. Oil is plentiful, and earth has an endless supply. It is not a "fossil" fuel. "Fossil fuels" are a hoax like everything else in the age of lies.
@@mustangecoboosthpp3869 it is a renewable resource. If a well runs low or out, if it sits for a while they come back and can flow or pump the well again usually for many years.
@@notajpmicroscopic plants or basically algae, hey maybe that's why there's so much algae these days it's everywhere in our water on our roofs especially huge problem in the past 30 years idk
Cude is created in the boundary between the earth's crust and the mantle. It results from high pressure, heat and the semi plastic rock in that environment. It is the stuff that allows plate tectonics of the continents to slide and shift locations. it is created continuously and is why we find oil at great depths. This knowledge is exactly why Russia has become one of the leading oil producers it is today. Find the spot the crust is the thinnest and poke a hole there. They also have developed the technology of resurrecting low producing will by removing the tar/resin plugged intake screen at the bottom of the well and replacing it with a new larger diameter screen that has more surface area restoring the well and improving it as well.
Farm tractors used to have two tanks, one for gas, one for kerosene, also inlet and exhaust manifolds used to touch each other in what was known as a 'hot spot' to help kerosene vapourise, TVO tractor vapourising oil as it was then known.
When I was in the Army we had an algae / fungus issue that affected our division. All the fuel filters had a black slime clogging the filters. I had one over engineered generator from Germany that I couldn’t shut off. It wasn’t a run away thank goodness. It just ran at a super slow speed. It was a desert storm era unit that we couldn’t get parts for. From that point on I realized I’d never buy anything from Germany that took fuel.
1:21. Taryl is wrong about flashpoint. It does not mean that... Flashpoint is the temp at which something combusts without a source fire it just ignites due to temperature
Flashpoint is the temperature at which it takes direct contact with an ignition source to start a burn. Autoignition is a burn started without an ignition source.
Great video Taryl. Very informative about the properties of ethanol fuel and I always wondered what that guy on the old service manuals sounds like. Now I know 😂 Thanks Taryl
So who gets subsidized with taxpayer dollars to make all of this happen? Does the guy sowing the seed get paid for Government cash? Does the guy that makes the Liquor get the government cash? Does the oil companies that mix in the liquor get paid some of that government money to “Make the air cleaner?” Or does putting in this subsidized liquor at 10 % stretch the amount of oil they need make a gallon of useable fuel?
@@highrx Farmers have been getting subsidized by the Federal government since WW II. The 'Farm Bill' which congress passes every few years even send checks to people living in New York City because they are related to someone who farms.
@@highrx Figure the industry attorneys steal all the subsidy money for setting up the scam, fi. It is hard to wrap the mind around the fact that the actual objective of the program was to make lots of high-protein cattle feed for our feedlot industry. The ethanol is a byproduct they had to get rid of somehow. Without the cattle feed, the entire program would make ZERO sense because it costs more to make the ethanol than it does to produce gasoline.
Kerosene powered small engines? I'm 79 and that's a new one on me, but I remember in the 50s and 60s our farm tractors used a distillate similar to kerosene, we called "tractor fuel". Same startup procedure as you explained. As I understand it that fuel was similar to kerosene but not as pure. It was tax free and only cost pennies a gallon, which was about all farmers of that time could afford.
In the UK it was known as TVO, Tractor Vaporising Oil. Start on Petrol(gas) and when the engine was hot, turn over to TVO. Smelt wonderful! All down to tax(duty). TVO attracted much less tax so farmers could afford it here. Went out of fashion with the introduction of more efficient diesel tractors.
Best fuel additive is water. Just pour so much water in gasoline, that it separates alcohol from fuel. Do it in a separate container, wich one you can see through. Shake a lot and let it sit to the next day. Then use only the top layer. It is pure gasoline. The bottom layer is water you added + the alcohol from pumpfuel. Hope you understand, my english is not so great.😅
@hardrays yes. The ethanol attracts water (hence the problem with it) so introducing water and agitating it the water mixes with the ethanol then sinks to the bottom. Just separate all that at the bottom of the container and you have gas with no ethanol or water.
@@hardrays yes , I have been a mechanic for years done this many times with old gas, or tanks that have water in gas or ethanol or both .... I use distilled water and it separates 100% of the time !!
@@waylonmccrae3546And you wash the octane right out of the gasoline. Now the fuel is suitable for like about a 4 and a 1/2 to 5 and a 1/2 to 1 compression ratio.
Taryl: you can easily measure the compression ratio: turn your engine to TDC and then pull the plug and fill the cylinder with oil until it's running out.. Then pick up the engine and pour that fluid into a measuring cup... Then rotate the engine to BDC and fill it with oil again, and dump it out and measure it. That will give you a real good idea of your ratio. It's a bit messy, but not too bad... (You'll have to pull the valve cover and remove the rockers so that the valve will stay closed)
I get 25-40 more miles per gallon with Non-Ethanol Fuel. Truck pulls long steep grades easier as well. Vehicles aren’t designed to burn 10% water in Ethanol fuel. And never store any vehicle or equipment with Ethanol fuel in the tank. You will be buying a fuel tank, if the tank is steel.
I've been using it in my special 12.5-1cr 1990 Nissan Pulsar GA16DE for the past 20 years and its absolutely awesome, with no problem at all, I stripped the engine and nothing needed replacement, not even the valve guide seals, I replaced the bearings just because I felt like it 🤗 I can get up to 780 kilometers on one 50 liter tank, maybe more because its still not run out at that in my recent economy test.
Here in Wisconsin we have what they are calling RV Gas, it is Alcohol -Free and 91 octaine. I have been running it in ALL of my small engines and my vehicles over 20 years old like my 68 VW BUG and 89 Mustang 5.0 and my 1978 454 RV . I have been able to keep gas lasting 5 years with only a Freshining of Fresh Gas and a Dose of Seafoam. It works!
Thank you for this video, Taryl. I've been trying to tell people this stuff and about all those snake oils, (lol @"Mechanic in a Bottle") for years and years, but nobody would hardly listen.
I am so old (74) I remember how the whole alcohol culture began. The political Left wanted to use garbage for motor fuel, we had a garbage problem and also a fuel shortage. The Left sold the idea of burning garbage in our cars and the public was duped by the hippy mentality so common back then. We were high on enthusiasm for new ideas, but those ignorant ideas never worked--why? Because most garbage is paper and will not ferment (to make alcohol)--we have been duped for about sixty years. We find there is only two sources of alcohol, corn and sugar cane. Garbage will not burn in your engines.
wait a second, i meant to say that the proper way to convert rubbish and refuse into fuel fractions is not through fermentation as it lacks sugar. you burn that stuff in pyrolysis fashion and be ready with your still called a frac(tioning) tower. in summary my boiler and your still can make liquid fuel, a fraction of which is gasoline.
I was doing a test 3-4 years ago with regular 89 octane gas with 10% alcohol. I was told you can "remove" the ethanol by adding water, mixing and allowing the phase separation. Supposedly you really can't add too much water as it will just separate. So I added 1L of the gas to a 2L soda bottle & then added 1L of distilled water & shook the bottle for 2-3 mins 5-6x. I then allowed it to sit and I never saw ANY separation. In fact, I still have the bottle under my work bench and it has still not separated! From everyone I've talked to (mechanics to chemists), this is supposedly impossible. They all said the only way for this to happen is if there is A LOT of ethanol (or methanol I guess...) to have been present in the gas. It seems that there was MUCH more than 10% ethanol in the regular gas I was getting, which might explain the poor mileage I was getting (about 20% less than I should).
Here's one for you to think about..... K series Kohler engines were able to be operated on kerosene by adding an additional head gasket. Kohler even offered a tank with a small gas tank built in for starting purposes, once started and warmed up you simply swapped it to burn kerosene. I know you and have never doubted you before, but look that up in the old Kohler K manufacturer book. The additional head gasket LOWERED the compression ratio to prevent pre ignition 👍. I didn't know you were going to cover that in the video 😉. Great job again
My goodness how clean the Grassrats Garage is. I'll bet ol' Taryl can't find a thing. I've used heat many times in the winter when I've had gas line freeze. It does work for that. As far as s Heet stabilizing fuel, nah. I you have water in your gasahol and it's separated, why wouldn't adding more alcohol to it absorb the water that's separated? I know of a gas station that was stealing their own gas and when they pumped 5 gallons of gas they would add 5 gallons of water to their underground tank. My mother had 3 inches of water in the bottom of her Toyota Tercel tank. Hah hah hah. No amount of Heet will take care of that. I know. She bought her fuel at the same station all the time. Thanks Taryl for the excellent tutorial. Very interesting stuff.
After watching this I understand why so many old tractors and small engines used to have glass bowls under the gas tanks. The glass bowl would have a shutoff valve so you could easily remove the glass bowl and drain the water from the fuel tank.
Yup all my old jeeps had the glass separation bowls.
Then along came this ethanol CRAP and when the weather turned to freezing my glass bowls would break. I still hate the stuff.
It's nothing but a government subsidiary. It actually costs more money to produce than gasoline.
Don't forget the rust from the fuel tank also would settle down into the glass bowl.
@@jC-kc4si When I was a kid I used to think it was for rust because my dad's AC WD-45 tractor continuously collected rust.
Exactly
miss those but you can buy them still to add On my older trucks I bought those fuel water separators with the spin on filters that you see used on boats They have a drain cock to check for water too . Marine stores sell them .
Taryl, I wish I would’ve had you as a teacher back in school. Not only would I have paid attention and learned great things but got a good laugh at the same time. Like always, I love new videos from you guys and in between I’m watching the older ones. Have a great week fellas!
I was in the petroleum industry for 20 years. It was very quickly that I realized the fuel industry prices are controlled by banks and brokers. Not oil companies. Ethanol is part of the petroleum, fuel industry. Most ethanol plants, or distillery's are run by a major grane brokerage company. Ethanol in it self is a excellent racing fuel. With a octane rating of 117 on average. Then comes the EPA. And the ATF. When ethanol is distilled from corn it's pure corn whisky. Some of it is sold to pharmaceutical companies for night time cold remedies, mouth wash, hand sanitizer, ect. But the ATF will never allow corn whisky to be moved with out there tax revenue. So ethanol for fuel must be denaturalized so it can not be consumed. 5 percent of the ethanol is injected with denaturalizing fluid. That fluid is 3 percent acetone, 1 percent benzene, 1 percent formaldehyde. That fluid along with the ethanol, and chemicals in the gasoline cause a lot of fuel problems we now have. One of the biggest issues is pump gas has a very short shelf life. All the chemicals will separate and make other chemicals in the liquid. There is a lot of conspiracy talk about that. You decide.
I wish it were possible to go back to MTBE.
My friend your spelling is terrible grain their ?
I'm sorry I offended you. I was a math geek. Never did well in English.
You can consume ten year old whiskey but I wouldn't attempt to put ten year old gasoline in any gasoline engine. Thanks for the comment.
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Taryl this video on ethanol is one of the best I have seen you do. If you do more of these
teaching videos you will never give out of content for your great channel.
19:24 Correction, gas, diesel and kerosene are all by products of crude oil.
That's what refining is all about. Each one has it's own specific gravity.
Diesel has a heavier weight that kerosene and kerosene is heavier than gasolene.
Taryl,
You are an exceptional plethora of information. One heck of a successful teacher. What a generous service you do , learning & putting forth the effort to educate the masses whom are interested.
What ever the money you make off this channel & merch. is absolutely worth it. I hope God has made you prosper more than the old school jobs in your field like high school shop teacher or VoTeck college teacher.
Thank you for your generous consideration,
Sincerely ..................
God Bless.
10% less fuel mileage attract moisture and gels up after it sits. The corn industry has a great lobbying industry to get what they want period.
94% the power as well. But, it is an artificial way to increase the octane as well.
E10 does not result in 10% poorer MPG but in early 1980s automobiles with early O2 sensors. Later designs only use the O2 sensor as a reference, doesn’t blindly do anything the O2 sensor orders. In a modern engine E10 results in a 2% or less hit on MPG.
I use 91 octane 0 ethanol and by doing so I average about 100km more per fill up vs using 87 or 89 octane with up to 10% ethanol. People didn't believe me so I said next time you fill up, let your tank run low and do it for 2-3 tanks and clock off your mileage. The ones that were willing to try also noticed more mileage and the vehicle ran better as well. The difference in cost is only about $3 more per fill up and actually made it cheaper vs regular if I had bought the extra gas to get the equivalent milage using regular with ethanol. YMMV but I DO NO use any fuel with ethanol anymore.
@N4HHE based on energy content it's supposedly could be 3%. Generally higher octane has no value unless engine knocjs or engine designed for higher octane. However I've been using 91 octane in my colorado because I'm anti ethanol. It ruins small engines. However occasionally I do put 87 octane ethanol in the truck. It's almost like my mileage improves. Maybe because computer expects 87 ethanol. I know some scanners can get an alcohol number and if it's way off actual fuel performance can be bad. Going to ask my mechanic if my colorado might have that.
Your 10% less mileage results in more power and a much cleaner engine - engine management system detects ethanol ratio and adjusts air/fuel ratio accordingly. Considering E-85 is 75 cents less per gallon, you can't go wrong using E-85 in a flex fuel vehicle.
Taryl your the best ! I looked at this issue because I had never heard of it before and this is what I found .The dark, sludge-like substance that often forms in diesel fuel tanks is actually a buildup of microbes, not algae. This is because algae require sunlight to grow, which is unavailable in a closed, dark diesel tank.
Algae in Diesel? Algae belong in the sea!
The microbes that grow in diesel fuel include bacteria, mold, and fungus. They can create a slimy film that coats fuel tanks and lines and can clog filters and cause engine damage. This is often referred to as "diesel algae", "diesel fuel slime", or "diesel bacteria".
The microbes grow in the oxygen-rich environment between the diesel fuel and a layer of water that has separated from the fuel. This is known as "phase separation". The microbes consume the diesel fuel's hydrocarbons and produce waste products that can cause corrosion and engine fouling.
Signs of contamination include: Hard starts, Excess exhaust, Failed pumps, Clogged injectors, and Clogged filters
That's why, even in MN, we very seldom have gas line freeze anymore. Until a gas station gets so much water that the alcohol can't absorb any more then you get a rash of dead cars.
When I was a kid and worked in fillin' stations in the seventies. we dipped the tanks every evening. Too much water in the bottom and the tank service would have to vacuum it out. Sweet Saudi Crude in the tank. Thirty five cents a gallon. Ran my VW bug for week on 1 tank Then the OPECs shut it down.. Filled up at opening and if someone saw me, the line started. Sold more gas every day and week than we ever had done. Crappier fuel from Alaska, but still better than Tar sands that we run today in Washington State.
sunday morning class with Taryl !!
Taryl I have been Watching your Channel for a Long Time and have learned so much but This one is Very Educational ! Thank You for taking the time out of your Busy day runny a Repair shop to Pass on your Knowledge
Diesel engines compress the air, then at the timing point, the fuel is injected. You are correct in that the temperature generated by the compression causes ignition, but it does not occur until the fuel is injected. So, the Diesel does have ignition timing, but it's not from spark timing, it's form the fuel injection timing.
Injection happens before the compression stroke is complete so that the diesel fuel is hot enough to ignite.
@@joeyl.rowland4153 No, injection on a diesel happens at the point of ignition. It is the point of ignition. Not at all like a gasoline engine. However, it does happen before TDC in order for maximum pressure to build. The compressed air in the cylinder is hot enough to ignite the injected Diesel oil.
@@uni-byte it is more than heat the diesel fuel must be fully vaporized. Droplets won't burn.
@@joeyl.rowland4153 OFFS, just go and read about it. The injector injects the oil at nearly 40,000 PSI, it is atomized at the nozzle. Can we now quit dragging your ignorance out in the open? Here is a quote from Cummins. You know, the people that make Diesel engines? "In the cylinder, air is compressed by the upward movement of the piston. As the piston nears the top of its path, an electrical signal is sent to the solenoid, causing the injector needle to lift, and allowing high pressure fuel (up to 37,000 psi) to flow through the nozzle and into the combustion chamber to mix with air. Because of the elevated temperature created by the compression stroke, the air-fuel mixture auto-ignites, creating power and driving the engine's pistons.
The combination of high fuel pressure and exceptionally fine injector nozzle holes ensures optimal mixing of air and fuel to meet even stricter emissions standards. In diesel engines, a fuel injector can fire multiple pulses in a single power stroke which can be used for noise mitigation and emissions control."
You're right on with that observation, back in the 80's we had small 2 stroke engines for model airplanes that were called "Diesels" but weren't.
They used a fuel that had a small amount of ether in in. The exact formulation escapes me atm but it used a 2 stroke cycle and had a cylinder head that had a counter piston that you would crank down with a thumbscrew to increase the compression ratio or back it off to start it at a lower compression. The carb would introduce the fuel/air into the cylinder and we'd start the engine my flicking the prop on lower compression ratio, then when it fired we'd tighten the thumbscrew to run . We called them "compression ignition" engines....and they had a glow plug too but once running we'd disconnect the battery and the engine would happily run.
Hi from a viewer from France, parrafin is wax,they used to use it as a kind of heating oil,it's liquidity,it was used for heating.Diesel has both water and oil in it,mainly to lubricate the pump,.Kerosiene is commonly known as Jet-A1,for jet engines.Kerosiene is dehydrated diesel,they have to remove the oil and water 'cause at 30,000 feet it'll freeze.
So if I use non ethanol gas don't have to worry about water right.
@@frankakers4333 hello there,i reckon you'd be spot on,no ethanol,no problèmo.
@@frankakers4333 Water is not created by ethanol. Water accumulates in tanks from moisture in ambiant air condesating on it's inside surfaces, ethanol will absorb part of it, straight gas won't. Keep your tank and fuel containers as full as possible as less air translates to less water in the fuel.
Jet fuel STILL has water in it AND it can hell at 30K feet temps. That’s why planes have fuel heaters.
@@drcovellAnd anti-phase separation additives, they break fuel particles, water droplets, etc into sub-micron sized particles, then get flushed out as fuel burnt..keeps bacteria down too..along with antimicrobial
Many farm tractors were kerosene back at the turn of the last century. Some had a dual carb and a small tank of gas. Water injection was used with kero in many cases. I used kero in my B&S push mower back in the day. I just did it, didn't read a manual.
I knew someone had this information other than myself, on here. My 1930 D John Deere tractor as well as others were "duel fuel". My D also has the water valve .
Back in the early 80's, I put about half a tank of diesel in a Dodge van. (10 gallons ) It worked ok, did smoke a little, otherwise it ran ok and got better fuel mileage than just gas alone. However, when the engine was cold, I would give it a shot of starting fluid, and it ran a little rough for about 30 seconds then would smooth out.
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To add clarity to your points on diesel algae, its not actually "algae" since algae is a plant and requires sunlight to exist. Diesel slime is actually microbes that form a biomass
Urea forms thus the need for DEF
@@TheTubejunkyI thought DEF was urea?
@@dennisgood2108 Pretty much so but not pure
DEF (Diesel Exhaust Fluid) is a solution consisting of only two ingredients:
Urea: The primary active ingredient, comprising approximately 32.5% of the solution. Urea is a nitrogen-rich compound derived from natural sources, such as ammonia and carbon dioxide.
Deionized water: The remaining 67.5% of the solution, which is highly purified water.
These two ingredients are mixed together to create a clear, colorless liquid that resembles water. The precise formulation of DEF is designed to ensure its effectiveness in reducing nitrogen oxide (NOx) emissions in diesel engines equipped with Selective Catalytic Reduction (SCR) technology.
This was a great video! Thank you very much for sharing information with us. I am 76 and still learning! Keep up the great job!
Some years ago, i had water in my tractor gas tank. I dumped a whole bottle of Heat in the tank that only had about 3 gallons of has in it. I looked into thee tank and it looked like the Heat grabbed the water and held it in BB sized balls, on the bottom of the tank. The tractor ran for maybe a half hour before it stalled. The water had collected in the carb bowl until it wouldn't hold enough gas to run. I drained the bowl until gas ran through. Started the engine again. It got me back to the house where i drained the tank and filled it with fresh gas.
Hi Taryl,
My brother Tom the Z-Man introduced me to your channel, we usually have you on as background while we work on various mechanical projects. We like learning noise.
Anyway a few years ago a biker friend of mine said you can make your own Rec Fuel by adding the same amount of water as the alcohol then shake it up then let it settle for a night and the alcohol will absorb the water. So say you have 3 gallons (384 ounces) of premium gasoline with 10% alcohol (38.4 ounces) you would add 38.4 ounces of water then shake vigorously for a minute or so then let it sit overnight 8-12 hours. It will separate into the gasoline (top layer) and alcohol/water (bottom clear layer.) and there is now 77 ounces of water/alcohol, I siphon the clear layer off and I'm left with gasoline with no alcohol. Its now Rec Fuel!
I had a little tractor when i was a kid that had a 2hp Briggs. I ran it on kerosene pretty ofter because we usually had that at the house. I would run a tank of gas through it and while it was still running but low on gas I would fill it up with kerosene. Real safe. I would the open up the carb adjustment screw about a full turn and it would run all day on it.
Thankfully we just have ethanol free fuel still available here. It's about a dollar more than "regular" gas but it's a must for small engines, boats, ATVs, etc. I even recommend it in cars that aren't run often because fuel with ethanol in it goes bad far more quickly than pure gas.
I don't put anything but ethanol free in my yard tools. I get mine at Co-Op. Well worth the extra $$$. In 6 years I've never had an engine fail to start after being set up for the winter. It's also been a while since I've had to replace a rotted fuel line as well. I store my Harleys for the winter with a full tank of ethanol free.
@@im2yys4u81yup. In my chainsaw goes only pure gas.
Every man is born with a finite number of pulls in his shoulder, and I’m not wasting any of mine on shitty gas.
Many of these snake oils were concocted before they started adding ethanol to the gasoline, so they did work, to a certain extent. That's why Heet built a good reputation, since it's basically pure wood alcohol. With a gravity feed setup, a piece of equipment with a little water in the gas wouldn't run, because the carb was filling up on pure water. Pour that Heet in there and give it a swish, drain the carb bowl of water, and unless it was LOADED with water, the motor would pop off. AMAZING!!!
The military used a lot of Multi-Fuel engines in the old days. When they went to the low sulfur diesel, that's when the prices went way up... All to keep people from seeing smoke from the exhaust
One thing about phase separation, you can take advantage of it. You can use it to strip the ethanol out of gas by figuring out 10% of the amount of fuel you have then putting in that amount of water. The ethanol and water will separate out and you'll be left with a sort of E0 gas afterwards. Now this fuel still isn't that great since modern fuel is garbage, but it will keep the fuel from absorbing as much in the way of moisture and will help it to last a bit longer on the shelf. I've even taken and had push mowers where there was water in the tank but the gas seemed fine so I unhooked the fuel line, let the fuel flow into a bottle, then poured off the gas from the bottle back into the tank and did this a few times until no more water was coming out.
You must be careful when doing this! The Ethanol in E10 gas is used to establish the octane rating. I have no idea how much, but you are definitely lowering the octane rating by removing the ethanol. Ethanol free gas uses different additives to establish the octane rating.
Why bother, if you're worried just buy e free gas.
@@Nozinbonsai it's $5.00 a gallon ! You must be rich!
In my fifties now, but when I was just a wee lad, found algae growing in the diesel fuel on the tractor we used. Still have that image because I couldn't believe algae could grow in diesel.
I had algae in a gasoline tank… And that’s actually the black crap that accumulates around your fuel caps… Mold that grows in the moisture that the ethanol attracts.
ive seen mossy looking plant life grow straight through 26ga galvalume roofing without any protrusion other than whatever microscopic ones the plant made. micro, or nearly microscopic, plantlife is hardcore. Now, if yall could find a micro whale, a diesel whale , then you're in b'ness. lol.
This is the first I’ve heard of algae growing in fuel.
@@lsj1 I was really confused the first time I saw it but even with the presence of fuel… Anywhere moisture exists … Algae can grow. Where the water settles on the bottom or where condensation occurs on tank walls or where the ethanol attracts moisture to the area around the filler cap on the outside even.
They are using plants in conjunction with other methods to aid in cleaning up polluted areas, industrial, etc.
take good care of yourself, Taryl. We lost Paul Harrell this week, we dont need to lose another good youtuber.
Wtf man are you serious? How the fck did the legendary Paul pass? Obviously I had no idea man was he sick or an accident
@@johnserrano9689 Pancreatic cancer. :(
@handbananaistherapist642 awful. Honestly my personal experience is only the good ones suffer and are taken young.
Had he been a freeloader, their, liar and whatever somehow he would've lived a long happy healthy life. From what I knew of him he wouldn't have it any other way though, he remained unbroken taking it all on with his head held high keeping every ounce of honor.
R.I.P Paul...perhaps one pf the most unlikely modern heros to countless people he never got the chance to ever know how much he did for them
@handbananaistherapist642
That stinks.
Lost an uncle to pancreatic cancer.
I have pancreas issues. So tired of the B's in this world.
I could go anytime wouldn't bother me a bit.
@@bobpaulino4714 Stay strong, brother.
Diesel and kerosene are the first products out when high gravity crude is cracked. In the past it was cheaper, but the gov't decided the diesel couldn't have any sulphur in it, so the price went up. Takes a lot of refining to get out the sulphur. During WWII kerosene was burned in cars because gas was rationed. Not a lot of demand for kerosene now, so price is higher.
Jet fuel is kerosene. Lots of demand.
The old John Deere twin cylinder tractors were designed to run on gasoline, kerosene, and "tractor fuel" (low octane gasoline). These were old tractors from a time when fuel might be hard to come by and a farmer might only have a good supply of kerosene, etc. The fuel shut-off, the correct way to shut down the engine was marked G for Gas, F for Fuel, and Off. They used two fuel tanks, a small one for gasoline to start on, and a larger one for whatever fuel you happened to have on hand. They also had shutters on the radiator to maintain the engine temperature high enough for the other fuels. Once the temp rose to about 175 to 180 degrees you would flip the fuel lever to the larger tank and run on that.
The owners manual (from the 1940's) stated that shutting down by turning off the fuel meant that no raw fuel was left in the cylinder to potentially dilute the oil around the rings allowing for easier starting and a longer engine life. I think they must have had that right because those tractors are still running today.
I use that process for shutting down with my 1941 Ford 9N as well as my two-cycle equipment. I don't really notice much difference with the old Ford but there's a lot to be gained by not leaving 2-cycle fuel in carburetors while they are sitting for long periods of time.
I never worry about nor have issues with mixed fuel in 2 cycles as long as I'm using non ethanol fuel..
Nice thing about small engines is that most fuel tanks are gravity feed . Just open bottom of fuel bowl and get rid of water until you smell or feel fuel. Then good to go. May need to clean ports in carb if slime or corrosion has blocked jets and rods.
Another factor is that the amount of water ethanol can bind to changes based on temperature. Higher temperatures increase solubility and lower temperatures reduce solubility. So water that has bonded to it (in the summer) may be released when you lower the temperature (aka winter).
Someone may have noted this but a diesel engine does not compress the fuel air mixture like a gas engine does. It compresses only the air on throttled and then the injector squirts in fuel under high pressure close to top dead center. The fuel and ignites from the heat of the compressor. That controls the timing of the fuel injection.otherwise there'd be no way to control at what point does the fuel light off
Taryl, the best thing I saw for water removal while I was small engine mechanic was the little hand operated pump with a 12" long sucker tube that you'd stick down in the fuel tank where the water sits, pump until you get straight gas.
I wonder if the benefit of running on kerosene or gasoline was a selling point because of the recent world war.
That engine was made not long after WW2 was over, and as you know, gas was rationed but remote homesteads had kerosene as a means to warm homes, etc.
Apparently, kerosene was more available.
Taryl , You are One Of The Best .... ! 🏆 Thank You ....
Gasoline has a very low flash point.
I immediately said, "Wait a minute..." knowing that he said this by mistake.
I think he's meaning vapor pressure.
He like meant ignition temp.
Confused about flash points!
I'm with you. When I heard him say gas has a high flash point my ears perked up and I thought this guy has it ass backwards I always knew it to have a low Flashpoint maybe someone will explain it to him
Wait 2 years and fire it up, fire it up, fire it up.
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In the UK during the 2nd world war cars were run on kerosene because they could not get petrol due to the war
Exactly. Very bad times, same thing here in the USA. The government issued 'gasoline ration stamps' to everyone, only a few gallons a month were allowed to be purchased. WAR SUCKS !!!!!
Many folks in the UK also built wood burners for their vehicles and ran them off of the fumes of the burning wood. They plumbed the burnt wood gases to the carb with a big pipe and from what I read, the engines ran pretty much like normal. With today's computer engines you couldn't do this but old school carbed engines will run fine on burnt wood gases. Not very safe or practical, but it beat walking.
@@richb.4374 We still had rationing until the 50's
Have multiple dual fuel tractors in my collection. Some run gas/distillate while others are gas/diesel. Back when they were new gasoline was around 60-70 cents a gallon but "tractor distillate" was in the 10-20 cent range. My F-20 still runs on both and yes it is somewhat of a mess to run it, but when you looked at the original cost savings it was a big thing. These days I run it just to demonstrate the system. Start it on gas, run it until it was warmed up, then you adjust the exhaust damper to get the engine running hotter and heat the carb up to atomize the kerosene better. Close the front radiator curtains as well. Then you would slowly open the main tank (distillate) valve. You could hear the engine note change some as well. Then you adjusted the timing on the lever at the operators station. Once it was running good you turned off the gas valve and ran it until the tasks were done. Then you opened the gas valve back up, retarded the timing some and closed the distillate valve then opened the shutters and the exhaust damper, as it switched back to gasoline. You also needed to check the oil more often and there are drain valves on the oil pan for that. Those allowed you to drain off contaminated oil then top up with fresh. My grandfather and father both ran the tractor back then and dad remarked that you could always tell the kerosene tractors at night because the entire exhaust system would be glowing hot from the heat it took to keep them running..
Great video, allways something New to know
Marine mechanic since 1979 here.
Only methyl alcohol can get water to mix into gas and be burned .
Best to pump out fuel consumption completely.
We use fuel/ water separator filters on most larger engines.
Marina fuel usually has no alcohol.
I also tested all these products on boat in Florida in glass jars.
As Taryl says that it cant remove large amounts of water .
I use Berrymans cheap and cleans varnish .
We can only buy E5 and E10 in my country. Never had any problems with it as long as its fresh from the pump, and i use about 2 gallons (8-9liters) each week for as long as the grass keeps growing.
When its time to put the tractor to sleep for the winter period which is about 6months from october to april i empty the fuel tank and run the carb dry. then fill the fuel tank with 1 liter of Aspen two stroke alkylate fuel, the same as i use for the weed wacker and then start it up again and let it sit idle for a couple of minutes. After 6months i just fill the tank with fresh gas and it fires right up.
Alkylate fuel stores better and that is why Stilt canned fuel is alkylate.
Speaking of snake oil salesmen, years ago my car would run shitty in the winter time. Someone told me to put in some dry gas. I did and it was like having done a tune up.
The gas tank causes condensation especially if you are cheap like I was and only had a quarter tank or so.
Later, I found out by MSDS sheets that dry gas is isopropyl alcohol.
The marketing companies fill up containers with water, yes water, and isopropyl alcohol and charge extra high price for something you can buy at the drug store or on line real cheap.
I am french, and even I know, compressh-ION is importante. God bless you and your dental team. Strength! GODsp33d! lol
Being French, are you able to pick up on his thick Wisconsin accent? Makes it all the funnier.
Ribbit Ribbit
Yes, I am also Wisconsin, and Frog origin. I met the dental anomaly Man one time, in passing. He is nice, and his little Son too rofl. Strength! GODsp33d!
Very informative, thank you! I have replaced many carburetors whose metal innards are a lump of corrosion because ethanol gas was left in them for years, so I know it does absorb moisture, unlike pure gasoline. I use ethanol gas in our mowers, chippers, etc. with no problem, but always drain them before winter storage. Extra gas I simply pour into the car gas tank. BTW, here (Baltimore MD) it is nearly impossible to find no-ethanol gasoline. The pumps always have the feel-good disclaimer about how the added ethanol saves the planet. LOL.
When you fly small planes part of your pre flight inspection is to check your fuel at the bottom of the tank with a fuel tester and if you see water caused by condensation you keep checking it and dumping it until there is no more water in the tank .
Awesome video, Taryl, and keep them coming.
The one thing I didn't know, was the B/S made engines that had kerosene conversion kits. That's interesting. Also the single cylinder diesel small engine. I have never seen one of those before!
The best video you have done.Thank you.
The problem with having ethanol in your fuel is the fact that it turns into acid when exposed to air. So that fuel sitting in the bowl of the carburator that's vented to the atmosphere, causes it to turn acidic and will corrode the carburator to the point that it needs to be replaced!!!
Please cite a source for how ethanol can possibly turn acidic.
I've own 36 engine that only runs 6 months in a years... carbs are always clean when we open them...
if your engine sit for longer, you should flush the carb anyway...
@@evanchi9460 If you know anything about making vinegar which is an acid, you would know that to make vinegar you just need to leave the cork out of a bottle of wine, the alcohol will turn to vinegar.
Thanks for sharing a great video
Ethanol fuel still ROTS rubber, it still causes corrosion in fuel systems.
I don't blame ethanol so much, I think it's related to the refining process. Notice too, fuel shelf life is considerably shorter than it used to be.
Also in many parts of south america, alcohol content is very high and they don't seem to have issues.
That said, a big problem with biofuels is water content is high because it's difficult to remove from these fuels.
@@thisisyourcaptainspeaking2259yeah I think a lot of stuff they use to denature the alcohol is what causes most of the issues. Ethanol has been around for awhile now and don’t think it was an issue so much when it first come out then the epa stuck their noses in and messed it all up. There was a pod cast I listen to a couple times of a guy who refined ethanol for racing and it’s quite interesting why they put it in gasoline now. He states it’s cause the gas is so bad it needs it to meet octane requirements.
Yeah tons of fires from people not changing out old rotten fuel lines in old volkswagen vans
Does non ethanol fuel still attract moisture?
That's what stabill does anti corrosion. Been using it for years with no issues.
From working in the whiting Refinery I already knew this stuff great job of explaining it I will see you in the next video 👍🏻🤘🏻
We put mothballs in our tanks back in the 70's.
You could hear them rolling around on turns.
My father did that, he never had any moths in the fuel tank, ever!
My old 2N Ford tractor had the option for kerosene operation for units sold during WWII as gasoline was highly rationed. Required a pre-heat system and modified carburetor to allow operation on a 6:1 compression ratio flat head engine. Great explanation, well done.
My grandparents, when they were serving as medical missionaries in India in the early part of of the last century, had a Model T that would run on kerosene (lamp oil) easily available there. It needed gasoline to start, which they bought in glass jars at the "chemists" (pharmacy).
Perfect Taryl !This is the clearest understanding one could aquire not on his own. Thanks.
Anytime I’ve ever had issues with small engines, it’s been after using ethanol-blend gas.
Very useful information as usual. If you don't do anything else when you're done with your power equipment for the season, please drain the fuel. You will save yourself aggravation and frustration. Mechanics at our local marina and small gas engine repair shop tell me that fuel problems are the most common problems they deal with. If you have non-ethanol gas in your area, use it. Avoid ethanol.
We still have 92 octane with no ethanol in south dakota that's all I run in atvs and power equipment and when iam towing with my pickup stays fresh for alot longer sitting in my atvs over the winter or snowblower over the summer
Good information taryl thanks buddy
Hi taryl. Back in the 70's I worked for a oil company. There used to be a paste you put on a dipstick to see how much water was in a tank of gasoline. If it got to a certain level, we locked out the tank and the water at the bottom was either pumped out or drained out of the bottom. Your video was spot on.
@El_Peto you are correct. The paste we had turned blue, same concept. We had a tanker we pumped out the tank and disposed of the water at a recycling point back then. I think they either burned it or recycled it somehow.
The paste was comet powder cleaner. The gas delivery driver checked our tanks before he filled them at My DADS. SINCLAR station .
Yeah, I use that here in the UK, but I think it might be an American product. It's called Kolor Kut.
Probably went into residential tap water
Kolor Kut is what you are referring to, I use it as a pumper in the oilfield.
Thank You for such great information. Excellent teacher. 😊😊
I had a 1980 Mercedes 300D that had a water/fuel separator from a Semi on it. A 10 Micron filter was in it. Never a problem with injectors or fuel pump even with 475K miles on it. I sold the car after the body started to rust off of the frame to a guy that only wanted the engine.
my deisel equipment does not fail me except for when air gets in the lines before the pump. my gasoline equipment are chronically and frustratingly (i mean hopping mad) getting clots in the jet so i have to access bowl and find tools and drop bowl and augeur the jet on a fleet every two weeks new fuel lines or not.
@@hardrays I'd be a bit upset myself.
Taryl that was spot on information. Thanks for the video. 👍❤️
Just to clarify a little - water sitting under gas isn't phase separation. It's just water being *more* dense than gas. When you see an inch at the bottom of the tank what has happened is that more water than could be held by the ethanol was added and the water and all of the ethanol "phase separate" and you end up with a large layer of diluted alcohol underneath the newly low octane gas on top. That is how that ethanol testing tube works FYI - it pulls all the ethanol out of the gas and into the water.
@ourback,,, I think you accidentally flipped your second sentence, as you typed, "It's just water being less dense than gas",,, ⛽⛽⛽
But as you know, water is MORE dense than gas ⛽...
@@rgarnerf11 Guilty as charged, D'oh.
Yes.
Water can exist in three phases. Solid (ice), Liquid or vapor (gaseous).
Alcohol absorbs the vapor phase of water, and once it reaches saturation, the water precipitates (condenses) to liquid water, when any more water vapor attracted is to the alcohol the water separates from the alcohol, hence "phase separation".
@@trunkmonkey9417 The alcohol is more strongly attracted to the water than the gasoline, so when the water falls out, the alcohol comes with it, and you have boozy water at the bottom of the tank and low octane non-oxygenated gasoline above it.
Great video as always. I use Briggs & Stratton Fuel Fit in my shop fuel (5% ethanol) and in own machines - and it does what is says on the bottle - it delays phase seperation by up to 12 months - but it will not remove water introduced to the fuel (condensation, leaky gas caps etc.) I think many of the products work fine but are over sold as a cure-all - which does not exist and cannot replace a yearly service with carb bowl and tank cleaning. It will make your fresh ethanol gas last a bit longer - and that's it. Thanks again for tackling this topic 👍👍
For the past 30 years plus, I spend the extra money and purchase non-ethanol and mix it with Marine-grade Sta-Bil to power all of my outdoor power equipment. And I buy canned high octane non-ethanol for all of my two-cycle equipment. No issues period.
My home depot was selling that two-stroke fuel for almost 20 bucks a quart!!
@@dalehazelton-np2le Try Tractor Supply. It’s about $25+ /almost a gallon. They have downsized the gallon cans.
Need more videos like this. Extremely informative
I think the instructions on those snake oils say "If a little bit is good, a whole lot is better"
Haven't gotten thru the Whole Video yet...
He is just talking about Phase Separation now. Was a bit disappointed that he painted "All" the "Snake Oils" with such a Broad Brush right at the Start.
In both the "Short" and "Long Term" tests STABIL 360 was one of the last standing Stabilizer Additives. It probably (IMO) should get more Praise for how it Performed. When doing those tests they probably should have tried/compared "360" (Amber) along with its more common/popular "Storage" (Red) product along with all the others.
Why? Because 360 isn't really meant for Storage. It's primarily meant for "In Season" use/protection... It also only claims to Stabilize for 12 month.
As he said they did their long term testing for 19 months, and it while it still worked well... the fuel was showing evidence of breaking down.
Their Short Term (Over Winter Storage) Testing really highlighted which Fuel Stabilizers actually could/couldn't "cut it". Some looked "clean" and while others (some with claims of 24-36 month protection) showed various levels of fuel degradation. They only had "one job" (well they had various ones, but at the very least keeping the Fuel "looking" fresh in the Fuel System... Seems like the biggest and easiest(?) task.). If that 24-36 month Stabilizer could at least keep the fuel looking "clean" for 19 months... Seems like people wouldn't have simple proof that "it" is Snake Oil.
Running on kerosene was used to power generators for long periods of time for running roadside electric signs back in the 60s. Tecumseh had a similar setup. It worked well
i still like seafoam for its ability to remove surging of the engine from varnish in the carb. also use marvels mystery oil in the gas as a lubricant. keeps my machines happy.
That was great Taryl, I have learned so much from this video, you should be a university professor not a lawn mower mechanic !
Oil does not come from dead animals it comes from other sources.
It’s actually made from plant material.
Oil is abiotic. Not plants or dinosaurs. Oil is plentiful, and earth has an endless supply. It is not a "fossil" fuel. "Fossil fuels" are a hoax like everything else in the age of lies.
@@mustangecoboosthpp3869 it is a renewable resource. If a well runs low or out, if it sits for a while they come back and can flow or pump the well again usually for many years.
@@notajpmicroscopic plants or basically algae, hey maybe that's why there's so much algae these days it's everywhere in our water on our roofs especially huge problem in the past 30 years idk
Cude is created in the boundary between the earth's crust and the mantle. It results from high pressure, heat and the semi plastic rock in that environment. It is the stuff that allows plate tectonics of the continents to slide and shift locations. it is created continuously and is why we find oil at great depths. This knowledge is exactly why Russia has become one of the leading oil producers it is today. Find the spot the crust is the thinnest and poke a hole there. They also have developed the technology of resurrecting low producing will by removing the tar/resin plugged intake screen at the bottom of the well and replacing it with a new larger diameter screen that has more surface area restoring the well and improving it as well.
Farm tractors used to have two tanks, one for gas, one for kerosene, also inlet and exhaust manifolds used to touch each other in what was known as a 'hot spot' to help kerosene vapourise, TVO tractor vapourising oil as it was then known.
When I was in the Army we had an algae / fungus issue that affected our division. All the fuel filters had a black slime clogging the filters. I had one over engineered generator from Germany that I couldn’t shut off. It wasn’t a run away thank goodness. It just ran at a super slow speed. It was a desert storm era unit that we couldn’t get parts for. From that point on I realized I’d never buy anything from Germany that took fuel.
Great info.
Diesel and Kerosene are not by products of gasoline. They are all byproducts of crude oil.
Hey Taryl sure appreciate these videos, some good facts to chew on. By the way, is there any more graduating classes from service skool?
1:21. Taryl is wrong about flashpoint. It does not mean that... Flashpoint is the temp at which something combusts without a source fire it just ignites due to temperature
I don't think he nailed compression either. But we
the wird tarrel shud have used is ignition point.
Flashpoint is the temperature at which it takes direct contact with an ignition source to start a burn.
Autoignition is a burn started without an ignition source.
A bunch of Trolls, go away fools
Great video Taryl. Very informative about the properties of ethanol fuel and I always wondered what that guy on the old service manuals sounds like. Now I know 😂 Thanks Taryl
Isn't there a compression spec?
ie: 120psi
120 / 14.7 = 8.5 compression ratio
Thanks for sharing your great knodledge 🙏
Some Old john Deere tractors were set up to run that way.
They were made to run on distillite
A & B models, what I learned on how to operate.
@@stevemac8436 the majority of old tractors ran on distillite, not just John Deere, like usual they probably copied other manufacturers
Excellent Video Taryl
The SHOCKING Truth: The primary product of USA's ethanol program is high-protein cattle feed. Ethanol is the byproduct.
So who gets subsidized with taxpayer dollars to make all of this happen?
Does the guy sowing the seed get paid for Government cash?
Does the guy that makes the Liquor get the government cash?
Does the oil companies that mix in the liquor get paid some of that government money to “Make the air cleaner?” Or does putting in this subsidized liquor at 10 % stretch the amount of oil they need make a gallon of useable fuel?
@@highrx Farmers have been getting subsidized by the Federal government since WW II. The 'Farm Bill' which congress passes every few years even send checks to people living in New York City because they are related to someone who farms.
@@highrx Figure the industry attorneys steal all the subsidy money for setting up the scam, fi. It is hard to wrap the mind around the fact that the actual objective of the program was to make lots of high-protein cattle feed for our feedlot industry. The ethanol is a byproduct they had to get rid of somehow. Without the cattle feed, the entire program would make ZERO sense because it costs more to make the ethanol than it does to produce gasoline.
Kerosene powered small engines? I'm 79 and that's a new one on me, but I remember in the 50s and 60s our farm tractors used a distillate similar to kerosene, we called "tractor fuel". Same startup procedure as you explained. As I understand it that fuel was similar to kerosene but not as pure. It was tax free and only cost pennies a gallon, which was about all farmers of that time could afford.
In the UK it was known as TVO, Tractor Vaporising Oil. Start on Petrol(gas) and when the engine was hot, turn over to TVO. Smelt wonderful! All down to tax(duty). TVO attracted much less tax so farmers could afford it here. Went out of fashion with the introduction of more efficient diesel tractors.
I'm only 75, 😊, but I remember we had a tractor set up like this. It was Farmall F-20 with steel wheels. First tractor my dad let me ride on with him.
Best fuel additive is water. Just pour so much water in gasoline, that it separates alcohol from fuel. Do it in a separate container, wich one you can see through. Shake a lot and let it sit to the next day. Then use only the top layer. It is pure gasoline. The bottom layer is water you added + the alcohol from pumpfuel. Hope you understand, my english is not so great.😅
I understand what you are saying .... it's called 'Washing' !! Done it many times before !! 😊👍🏻
@@waylonmccrae3546 this works?!
@hardrays yes. The ethanol attracts water (hence the problem with it) so introducing water and agitating it the water mixes with the ethanol then sinks to the bottom. Just separate all that at the bottom of the container and you have gas with no ethanol or water.
@@hardrays yes , I have been a mechanic for years done this many times with old gas, or tanks that have water in gas or ethanol or both .... I use distilled water and it separates 100% of the time !!
@@waylonmccrae3546And you wash the octane right out of the gasoline. Now the fuel is suitable for like about a 4 and a 1/2 to 5 and a 1/2 to 1 compression ratio.
Taryl: you can easily measure the compression ratio: turn your engine to TDC and then pull the plug and fill the cylinder with oil until it's running out.. Then pick up the engine and pour that fluid into a measuring cup... Then rotate the engine to BDC and fill it with oil again, and dump it out and measure it. That will give you a real good idea of your ratio. It's a bit messy, but not too bad... (You'll have to pull the valve cover and remove the rockers so that the valve will stay closed)
I get 25-40 more miles per gallon with Non-Ethanol Fuel. Truck pulls long steep grades easier as well. Vehicles aren’t designed to burn 10% water in Ethanol fuel. And never store any vehicle or equipment with Ethanol fuel in the tank. You will be buying a fuel tank, if the tank is steel.
@ToyodaMaster- do you mean 25-40 more miles per tank?
10 percent water in ethanol fuel?
I've been using it in my special 12.5-1cr 1990 Nissan Pulsar GA16DE for the past 20 years and its absolutely awesome, with no problem at all, I stripped the engine and nothing needed replacement, not even the valve guide seals, I replaced the bearings just because I felt like it 🤗 I can get up to 780 kilometers on one 50 liter tank, maybe more because its still not run out at that in my recent economy test.
Here in Wisconsin we have what they are calling RV Gas, it is Alcohol -Free and 91 octaine. I have been running it in ALL of my small engines and my vehicles over 20 years old like my 68 VW BUG and 89 Mustang 5.0 and my 1978 454 RV . I have been able to keep gas lasting 5 years with only a Freshining of Fresh Gas and a Dose of Seafoam. It works!
Flutter Farms has 89 no corn. In the motor sickle too. Good tip.
Dr. Taryl's class on fluid dynamics.
I’m a farmer not a corn farmer and I despise ethanol and usually get 92 octane to get away from it.
Thank you for this video, Taryl. I've been trying to tell people this stuff and about all those snake oils, (lol @"Mechanic in a Bottle") for years and years, but nobody would hardly listen.
I am so old (74) I remember how the whole alcohol culture began. The political Left wanted to use garbage for motor fuel, we had a garbage problem and also a fuel shortage. The Left sold the idea of burning garbage in our cars and the public was duped by the hippy mentality so common back then. We were high on enthusiasm for new ideas, but those ignorant ideas never worked--why? Because most garbage is paper and will not ferment (to make alcohol)--we have been duped for about sixty years. We find there is only two sources of alcohol, corn and sugar cane. Garbage will not burn in your engines.
why you make this a left/right political issue? you a sociopath?
@@SteifWoodyes, he is
@@SteifWoodyou didn’t disagree with him factually, I noticed. Why do you attack someone old enough to provide proper historical context?
i wonder who gets madder when i run boiler on junk. the tree hugger and bird lady or the cattle man?
wait a second, i meant to say that the proper way to convert rubbish and refuse into fuel fractions is not through fermentation as it lacks sugar. you burn that stuff in pyrolysis fashion and be ready with your still called a frac(tioning) tower. in summary my boiler and your still can make liquid fuel, a fraction of which is gasoline.
I was doing a test 3-4 years ago with regular 89 octane gas with 10% alcohol. I was told you can "remove" the ethanol by adding water, mixing and allowing the phase separation. Supposedly you really can't add too much water as it will just separate. So I added 1L of the gas to a 2L soda bottle & then added 1L of distilled water & shook the bottle for 2-3 mins 5-6x. I then allowed it to sit and I never saw ANY separation. In fact, I still have the bottle under my work bench and it has still not separated! From everyone I've talked to (mechanics to chemists), this is supposedly impossible. They all said the only way for this to happen is if there is A LOT of ethanol (or methanol I guess...) to have been present in the gas. It seems that there was MUCH more than 10% ethanol in the regular gas I was getting, which might explain the poor mileage I was getting (about 20% less than I should).
Here's one for you to think about..... K series Kohler engines were able to be operated on kerosene by adding an additional head gasket. Kohler even offered a tank with a small gas tank built in for starting purposes, once started and warmed up you simply swapped it to burn kerosene. I know you and have never doubted you before, but look that up in the old Kohler K manufacturer book. The additional head gasket LOWERED the compression ratio to prevent pre ignition 👍. I didn't know you were going to cover that in the video 😉. Great job again
My goodness how clean the Grassrats Garage is. I'll bet ol' Taryl can't find a thing. I've used heat many times in the winter when I've had gas line freeze. It does work for that. As far as s Heet stabilizing fuel, nah. I you have water in your gasahol and it's separated, why wouldn't adding more alcohol to it absorb the water that's separated? I know of a gas station that was stealing their own gas and when they pumped 5 gallons of gas they would add 5 gallons of water to their underground tank. My mother had 3 inches of water in the bottom of her Toyota Tercel tank. Hah hah hah. No amount of Heet will take care of that. I know. She bought her fuel at the same station all the time. Thanks Taryl for the excellent tutorial. Very interesting stuff.
Can't find a thing? Have you not watched a single video of his? 🧐🙄
Excellent video brother
God 🙌 bless
Fascinating video very edumacational
Thanks Taryl
Incredible as always, Taryl!