I love how over it Generosity looks on Prosperity. Generosity is literally smiling even in the artwork where others are sad around it...except in Prosperity where it has the "How did this happen to me?" face.
@@MrTopTenList I have a idea for yugioh video. how does the video on weirdest archetypes in yugioh sound like? One I can think of is Gunkan archetype. Now, we had non-monster trains and cars in yugioh but those things can actually be dangerous when they run you over. But THESE?! Majority of them are just sushi! granted, they are giant portions of of shushi but still! If these things were ever animated for anime, how the Sam Hill would they even work, let alone attack?!
Kami: Mr. Popo what are you watering??? Mr. Popo: Pot Kami: pot of what??? Mr. Popo: Pot, I'm not getting rid of them Kami: Are you kidding, that $#!+ is good for my glaucoma
I could never understand why pot of greed was banned as a kid... now as an adult who has played magic the gathering, I understand the value of digging for answers in a sixty card deck. Digging for two in a 40 card deck? It is quite big
Plus, unlike Magic which tempers deployment with Mana, Yuhioh doesn't have resources of the same kind. That is what makes Pot of Greed go from pretty good to broken
4:00- I think is just for you don't shuffle copies of itself by it's own effect, then start a infinite loop. Konami was afraid to create a second fiber jar😨
I guess the purpose of desire is let's say u use pot of greed but u still only draw garnetts in your hand. Desire can probably wipe any chance to draw garnetts but it could also hurt u too
To reiterate on why Pot of Greed is banned, it also has to do with how it limits deckbuilding. If it were Limited (as in, one copy is allowed per deck), then _everyone_ would just slap one copy of it into their deck due to how free it is. Then _everyone_ would by default have 39 card decks instead of 40 card decks. Because turning one draw into two draws is never a bad thing. Or in semi-frequent cases, turning one draw into an instant forced negate pop from your opponent is never a bad thing. And I guess I can see a _few_ fringe scenarios where PoG isn't entirely beneficial, such as excavating your deck and looking for monster cards. Imagine a Pot of Greed stopping Yami's Berserker Soul moment deadshort. But those moments are so few and far between that they don't necessarily outweigh its sheer effect on deckbuilding. For comparison, Upstart Goblin, a card that draws only one card and _gives your opponent 1,000 Life Points,_ is just barely Limited (at least in the TCG) and has stayed as such for the longest time. Removing it's only drawback and doubling its gains? Too much for the game.
@@user-jo2rp5qn5s I'm not trying to be rude my friend but the bible also says that God put plants that seed upon themselves for his children (us) to use, and weed plants are in that category of plants.
Ur yugioh videos are the freaking best. I have 2 interesting requests. 1. of course have "Judgement Meter" she's amazing. 2. Make a video involves top ten best female yugioh monsters ( even if cards like dark magician girl is getting #1 lol)❤
I really enjoyed this list - it gave commentary and also discussed the cards functions and history in the TCG! I know that doesn't fit some of your other videos, but I still enjoyed it
Its not just that pot of greed is a +1, that is definitely part of it. The other part is that it is so universally useful in every deck that every deck would have to use however many copies were legal which limits deck building.
Not only that but exodia players tend to ruin any cards that let you draw for any cost. Or rather people that just want to do FTK shenanigans in general. If a card like Chicken game or Upstart Goblin can't even be trusted, there's absolutely no way anyone will be allowed to play with pot of greed again.
One, I feel like this video should have been done on the 20th... second, Pot of Acquisitiveness was really good to side in against ABC decks when they were meta, since it stopped the tag out dead and drew you a card, and could always be done in response.
Hello there, MrTopTenList. I know that this comment will likely not be seen by you, but if it is, I wanted to thank you so much for all of the content you have provided over the years. Whether it be on fighting games, Yu-Gi-Oh, or other forms of pop culture, your videos have always been successful in making me enjoy watching until the very end. If at all possible, could you please possibly consider making a video for "Top 10 Strangest Characters to Fight in Fighting Games"? By that, I mean characters who behave differently than the rest of the cast regarding how their moves, specials, attacks, and etc. work in the game they are in. For instance, Phoenix Wright from MvC3, Junpei from Persona 4 Arena Ultimax, Hakumen from Blazblue, Hanato Yamada from Bleach Shattered Blade, and Angel from King of Fighters, just to give a few ideas. Please consider covering these sorts of characters in a future video if at all possible, and even if you choose not to, I will still love and enjoy all of your future content. Thank you once again for all of your hard work, and please consider my suggestion if you ever have the chance. :)
Thank you for the suggestion! Weird Fighting Game Characters has been on my idea list for awhile now, so it's just a matter of time when I get to writing it. I really want to talk about the Karakuri puppet in Samurai Shodown and that's the perfect topic for it.
@@MrTopTenList Thank you so much for the response to the comment, this really means a lot. I appreciate you considering my suggestion, so please take care, thank you again, and keep up the amazing work! :)
I put Acquisitiveness in my Ghoti deck, it hasn't performed well. It really needed to be a draw 2 to be good. As is it's a lose less card, rather than the meta win more cards that other Pots can be.
I love judgment meters inclusion in these videos, she always makes me laugh, ha ha. I do agree that pot of extravagance is a fantastic card for those under dog trap decks such as "Eldlich The Golden Lord" ha ha. I would love to see a lore video covering the goblin of greed. Maybe in the next half decade we could see pot of greed released from the ban list at a single copy. The rush duel pot card would he fantastic in trap decks in original Yu-Gi-Oh, especially with a single copy of pot of greed.
Goblin of Greed was in my first backstory video, but his story has progressed so much since 2018, there's way more cards with him to give him a part 2 for the next backstory list, similar to how Condemned Witch got more story after I covered her.
YAy, my Rush Duel Pot got mentioned, also I'm surprised there wasn't an April Fools joke (At the time of the video's release) or was it being Pot of Greed being at 5th Pos
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I thought about doing some April Fools topic, but I just decided on a real list. Though, I knew starting it with Pot of Generosity would definitely make people sus if it was a legit list.
Pot of Generosity is a parody of Pot Greed just like Foolish Burial is a parody of Premature Burial... I'm sure one day people will find a use these parody cards.
I realized that part-way through working on it and I didn't want to hold the list, so it's just the non-joke April Fool's list. Rewatch it on 4/20 for maximum value!
Well, since it's April Fool's Day, what do you think of this Yugioh related joke? Who could pull a rabbit out of their own shadow? Dark Magician and Dark Magician Girl! And speaking of pots, jars and other containers of various kinds, how about making a list of games that feature breakable containers as cliches?
I feel like if konami just added "you can only use pot of greed once per duel" to pot of greeds card text it could get unbanned xD A hard once per duel would make it unspamable and more balanced :P
IDEA [Draw 2 cards. You can only activate "Pot of Greed" thrice per match.] REASON: This would fix the problem of "Pot of Greed" being used too many times in a single duel, by making players think "Hm...🤔 Is it REALLY worth me drawing 2 cards, if I can only it 3 times in a single match?🤔" NOTE: I'll be back to edit if you (or I) find another problem with this new effect.
I think it's still his same smile except under a Kabuki mask effect. The angle he is being held in simply makes it looks sad. 3D perspective manipulation.
plus it banishes itself so that it can't be and anti deckout option that recures spells during the turn you use it so yes they dit it so that prophecy stays the best to do that and forces you to let your opponent plays
also pot of greed is also needed to be banned cause just it whould be a requierement to everydeck, too generic no reson to not play, hurting deck diversivity wich is needed to have a good metagame :)
I'd have laughed a bit if your mom was cohost for this, so you could talk about pot with her. But also, to echo another comment, you should've waited to release this until 4/20, and done an April Fools "bottom ten" today. You were so close!
We also discussed doing "Top Ten Hottest Yugioh Monsters" and we go over the best Pyro monster for April Fools. We just decided for a standard list this year, but at least the video can be rewatched on 4/20 for maximum appeal!
@@MrTopTenList ah, gotcha! I'd have loved either of the other videos too, though. But I think both have been done humorously by other channels before. EDIT: Oh, looks like I misunderstood what you meant. Yeah, TheDuelLogs did an April Fools "hottest waifu" video 3 years ago, and videos on the 10 best and 10 worst pyro monsters shortly before that, but I don't think anyone has literally covered Pyros as being the "hottest" cards.
I love how over it Generosity looks on Prosperity.
Generosity is literally smiling even in the artwork where others are sad around it...except in Prosperity where it has the "How did this happen to me?" face.
I think you are 19 days too early with this one Mr List Man lol
🤣🤣4/20 Yoh this comment needs a deep level of understanding
He did that to not be associated with 420
Lol weeds deep?@@Thedmknation
With this video you've finally ascended to your final form MrpoTTenList.
I don't think we can get any better than this comment
@@MrTopTenList I have a idea for yugioh video. how does the video on weirdest archetypes in yugioh sound like? One I can think of is Gunkan archetype. Now, we had non-monster trains and cars in yugioh but those things can actually be dangerous when they run you over. But THESE?! Majority of them are just sushi! granted, they are giant portions of of shushi but still! If these things were ever animated for anime, how the Sam Hill would they even work, let alone attack?!
I will never not love Judgement Meters commentary with all my heart
She the spice to these vids
Ditto
One of these days pot of generosity is going to be broken by a weird deck that return cards from you hand to the deck to do broken things
Congrats on breaking out of that pot, Judgement Meter.
I've never seen Pot of Arrogance, and it's now my favorite. What a cool design.
Kami: Mr. Popo what are you watering???
Mr. Popo: Pot
Kami: pot of what???
Mr. Popo: Pot, I'm not getting rid of them
Kami: Are you kidding, that $#!+ is good for my glaucoma
10:35. We just not gonna mention how he has the same stache as a certain 20th century dictator?
I could never understand why pot of greed was banned as a kid... now as an adult who has played magic the gathering, I understand the value of digging for answers in a sixty card deck. Digging for two in a 40 card deck? It is quite big
Plus, unlike Magic which tempers deployment with Mana, Yuhioh doesn't have resources of the same kind. That is what makes Pot of Greed go from pretty good to broken
Pot of Benevolence probably banishes itself so you cant pull it back into the deck with another Pot of Benevolence, creating a cycle
2:40 all of my subjects are lovable and huggable as long as your in the water with them lol
Pot of Riches kinda looks like a lion on Pot of Prosperity. Anyone else seeing this?
Looks more like a monk to me, I see a fork and spoon , so the riches might be food?
4:00- I think is just for you don't shuffle copies of itself by it's own effect, then start a infinite loop. Konami was afraid to create a second fiber jar😨
Pot Of Greed may be banned but its legacy lives to the other pots to which is the draw power.
I guess the purpose of desire is let's say u use pot of greed but u still only draw garnetts in your hand. Desire can probably wipe any chance to draw garnetts but it could also hurt u too
The opposite card to Pot of Greed should be Pot of Need
To reiterate on why Pot of Greed is banned, it also has to do with how it limits deckbuilding. If it were Limited (as in, one copy is allowed per deck), then _everyone_ would just slap one copy of it into their deck due to how free it is. Then _everyone_ would by default have 39 card decks instead of 40 card decks. Because turning one draw into two draws is never a bad thing. Or in semi-frequent cases, turning one draw into an instant forced negate pop from your opponent is never a bad thing.
And I guess I can see a _few_ fringe scenarios where PoG isn't entirely beneficial, such as excavating your deck and looking for monster cards. Imagine a Pot of Greed stopping Yami's Berserker Soul moment deadshort. But those moments are so few and far between that they don't necessarily outweigh its sheer effect on deckbuilding. For comparison, Upstart Goblin, a card that draws only one card and _gives your opponent 1,000 Life Points,_ is just barely Limited (at least in the TCG) and has stayed as such for the longest time. Removing it's only drawback and doubling its gains? Too much for the game.
I'm surprised when pot of greed wasn't band there weren't more uses of a card that negates pot of greed
tbh, pot of greed would be even more powerful now than it was back in the day
It would have been hilarious if this would have came out 10 days later lmao
@@user-jo2rp5qn5s I'm not trying to be rude my friend but the bible also says that God put plants that seed upon themselves for his children (us) to use, and weed plants are in that category of plants.
Great job, love it when JM is your cohost.
Thank you!
Ur yugioh videos are the freaking best. I have 2 interesting requests. 1. of course have "Judgement Meter" she's amazing.
2. Make a video involves top ten best female yugioh monsters ( even if cards like dark magician girl is getting #1 lol)❤
Ι honestly love your content thanks for making them
Thank you!
@@MrTopTenList your welcome
I really enjoyed this list - it gave commentary and also discussed the cards functions and history in the TCG!
I know that doesn't fit some of your other videos, but I still enjoyed it
Gotta love you and JM's banter and loving learning about Yugioh cards aside from TGSAnime
Its not just that pot of greed is a +1, that is definitely part of it. The other part is that it is so universally useful in every deck that every deck would have to use however many copies were legal which limits deck building.
Not only that but exodia players tend to ruin any cards that let you draw for any cost. Or rather people that just want to do FTK shenanigans in general. If a card like Chicken game or Upstart Goblin can't even be trusted, there's absolutely no way anyone will be allowed to play with pot of greed again.
@@ericwollam5532
I don't even think an Errata to make it like Reckless Greed would get it anywhere past Limited Status.
One, I feel like this video should have been done on the 20th... second, Pot of Acquisitiveness was really good to side in against ABC decks when they were meta, since it stopped the tag out dead and drew you a card, and could always be done in response.
Hello there, MrTopTenList. I know that this comment will likely not be seen by you, but if it is, I wanted to thank you so much for all of the content you have provided over the years. Whether it be on fighting games, Yu-Gi-Oh, or other forms of pop culture, your videos have always been successful in making me enjoy watching until the very end.
If at all possible, could you please possibly consider making a video for "Top 10 Strangest Characters to Fight in Fighting Games"? By that, I mean characters who behave differently than the rest of the cast regarding how their moves, specials, attacks, and etc. work in the game they are in. For instance, Phoenix Wright from MvC3, Junpei from Persona 4 Arena Ultimax, Hakumen from Blazblue, Hanato Yamada from Bleach Shattered Blade, and Angel from King of Fighters, just to give a few ideas.
Please consider covering these sorts of characters in a future video if at all possible, and even if you choose not to, I will still love and enjoy all of your future content. Thank you once again for all of your hard work, and please consider my suggestion if you ever have the chance. :)
Thank you for the suggestion! Weird Fighting Game Characters has been on my idea list for awhile now, so it's just a matter of time when I get to writing it. I really want to talk about the Karakuri puppet in Samurai Shodown and that's the perfect topic for it.
@@MrTopTenList Thank you so much for the response to the comment, this really means a lot. I appreciate you considering my suggestion, so please take care, thank you again, and keep up the amazing work! :)
I put Acquisitiveness in my Ghoti deck, it hasn't performed well. It really needed to be a draw 2 to be good. As is it's a lose less card, rather than the meta win more cards that other Pots can be.
I use Riches in my Abyss Actor deck. I think he's helped me twice. Every other time, I get him too early to use him.
I think the pot of avarice I got has a mistranslation, since It doesn't say monster!?
They are very funky
I have a request for a a future video. Could you please do a Top 10 Cutest Yu-Gi-Oh Monsters?
Upvote for Judgement Meter
Judgement Cutie❤
I love judgment meters inclusion in these videos, she always makes me laugh, ha ha. I do agree that pot of extravagance is a fantastic card for those under dog trap decks such as "Eldlich The Golden Lord" ha ha.
I would love to see a lore video covering the goblin of greed. Maybe in the next half decade we could see pot of greed released from the ban list at a single copy. The rush duel pot card would he fantastic in trap decks in original Yu-Gi-Oh, especially with a single copy of pot of greed.
Goblin of Greed was in my first backstory video, but his story has progressed so much since 2018, there's way more cards with him to give him a part 2 for the next backstory list, similar to how Condemned Witch got more story after I covered her.
Generally use pot of avarice in my stardust deck as tech after dumping a bunch of synchros and junks
would be cool to see a video on other more iconic draw cards like sekka's light or card of demise.
YAy, my Rush Duel Pot got mentioned, also I'm surprised there wasn't an April Fools joke (At the time of the video's release) or was it being Pot of Greed being at 5th Pos
23:56 Not anymore, Malicious is back to 3, we're so f-king back baby 👀
wtf haven't gotten a notification for your channel in months
You should do a top ten on forbidden memories
11:37 Hahahahaha
Thanks for asking the meme question Judgement Meter
As a fellow Danger Dark world player. Love the background gameplay!!!!
In proper yugioh fashion he says what every pot card does… thus referencing the pot of greed joke. Bravo. Genius.
Whats next top ten jars in yugioh
Top 10 Yu-Gi-Oh references -
Super Quant (Power Rangers), Vendread (Resident Evil), Masked Hero (Kamen Rider), etc.
Vendread is also Spawn
Fun fact when pot of greed got banned it stop being seen in the anime
My favorite part of the video is how this isn’t a joke video.
They should blend Acquisitiveness with Greed or Avarice for banish decks
I like how riches is on all the extra deck pots.
Wait, what does Pot of Greed do again?
I'm not saying posting it April 1 isn't a bad idea but posting this on 420 would've been way better
Mr. TopTenList... Mr. Top ten elite....I said what I said
Pot of generosity is good for swift Gaia the fierce knight,blade knight,and that one light fiend monster
Who's playing these cards tho?
Infernities, use it in Infernities
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Judgment metter the BEST waifu❤
I was expecting a joke video but got a nice resume of Pots
Neat
I thought about doing some April Fools topic, but I just decided on a real list. Though, I knew starting it with Pot of Generosity would definitely make people sus if it was a legit list.
Pot of Generosity is a parody of Pot Greed just like Foolish Burial is a parody of Premature Burial... I'm sure one day people will find a use these parody cards.
I used benevolence in a DaD deck to help control the number of dark monsters in the gy.
The banish o pot of benevolence is so you cant infinite loop it with other copya of it
Yay for Judgement Meter
Hm, how very interesting, i wonder if we get any more Pots?
Pot of Greed will always be my favorite !
Cuz I wanna DRAW TWO CARDS
The only pots with a true mouth...pot-ty mouths..that one is for you JM!😂
That plot is Goblin of Greed. He's the one who broke the pots and then glued them together and tried to sell them as a scam.
"I Activate Pot of Greed."
"This card allows me to draw 2 new cards from my deck."
Do you always have to introduce yourself?
GREAT MR.TOPTENLIST POT OF GREED 😇😇😇💭
To say desires is better than prosperity is wild
Would've been a good topic to cover on April 20th also.
The fact that you didn't wait until 4/20 disappoint me 😂 but love these cards none the less
I realized that part-way through working on it and I didn't want to hold the list, so it's just the non-joke April Fool's list. Rewatch it on 4/20 for maximum value!
@@MrTopTenList thats pretty fair lol
Is this both a Predictive and hype building video for the next banlist ?
Was it intentional or a coincidence that this was your April Fool's day vid? XD
Pot of Generosity is great for Infernity deck to make no cards on hand as soon as possible
There better cards for that
You should do a top ten ugliest yugioh cards. Vampire dragon and stardust dragon come to mind
I love Jugementmeter.🥰
Dude in Rush duel episode POT OF GREED SHOW UP IN THE EPISODE
FREEZE YU-GI-OH! FBI!!!
Good job!
Never give up the ganja
Pot of avarice has a Hitler mushdash
Well, since it's April Fool's Day, what do you think of this Yugioh related joke? Who could pull a rabbit out of their own shadow? Dark Magician and Dark Magician Girl! And speaking of pots, jars and other containers of various kinds, how about making a list of games that feature breakable containers as cliches?
I run Pot of Aquisitiveness in my Fossil Fusion deck.
I feel like if konami just added "you can only use pot of greed once per duel" to pot of greeds card text it could get unbanned xD A hard once per duel would make it unspamable and more balanced :P
IDEA [Draw 2 cards. You can only activate "Pot of Greed" thrice per match.]
REASON: This would fix the problem of "Pot of Greed" being used too many times in a single duel, by making players think "Hm...🤔 Is it REALLY worth me drawing 2 cards, if I can only it 3 times in a single match?🤔"
NOTE: I'll be back to edit if you (or I) find another problem with this new effect.
nah, that. wouldn't really help.
Pot of Extravagance is cool
I’m done the tutorial of master duel so what deck should I pick
Power of the dragon
Synchro of unity
Link generation
It cant be he did it he figured out what pot of greed does
I love pot
I've seen pot of generosity in Infernity decks
"Smug ass Pot"
-Emperor of Mankind while referring to Pot of Greed
Pot of Avarice has the Hitler mustache and I can't unsee it.
I just noticed, Pot of Avarice has a Hitler Stache. How, how I've never noticed that in the last 15 years of my life is beyond me
Most people have never seen the uncensored version with the stache. People mostly play the censored version, without the stache.
How about top 10 monsters that look the least like their types
whats the name of the anime girll ?
The horse
Please make a new Yu-Gi-Oh card backstory! I want to see Dês Kangaroo backstory
I think it's still his same smile except under a Kabuki mask effect. The angle he is being held in simply makes it looks sad. 3D perspective manipulation.
sometimes judgement meter scares me
i just want to see avatar of the pot on the list...
I use acquisitiveness in my Adamagnets deck
magic mallet is the good version of pot of generosity
plus it banishes itself so that it can't be and anti deckout option that recures spells during the turn you use it so yes they dit it so that prophecy stays the best to do that and forces you to let your opponent plays
also pot of greed is also needed to be banned cause just it whould be a requierement to everydeck, too generic no reson to not play, hurting deck diversivity wich is needed to have a good metagame :)
I'd have laughed a bit if your mom was cohost for this, so you could talk about pot with her.
But also, to echo another comment, you should've waited to release this until 4/20, and done an April Fools "bottom ten" today. You were so close!
We also discussed doing "Top Ten Hottest Yugioh Monsters" and we go over the best Pyro monster for April Fools. We just decided for a standard list this year, but at least the video can be rewatched on 4/20 for maximum appeal!
@@MrTopTenList ah, gotcha! I'd have loved either of the other videos too, though. But I think both have been done humorously by other channels before.
EDIT: Oh, looks like I misunderstood what you meant. Yeah, TheDuelLogs did an April Fools "hottest waifu" video 3 years ago, and videos on the 10 best and 10 worst pyro monsters shortly before that, but I don't think anyone has literally covered Pyros as being the "hottest" cards.
No no no they put the 5 cards in the pot of avarice and then he draws the 2 cards XD
This is off topic, but have you ever heard of Tic Tac KO?