6 WORST And 7 BEST Things About The 2023 Honda Accord Hybrid

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    0:00 - Intro
    Bad:
    0:38 - FWD only, no AWD
    This has been a staple of the Accord since the beginning, but rivals like the Camry and others are offering AWD and they’ve managed to do it without making significant fuel economy sacrifices
    In a world where everyone is convinced they need AWD..around me anyway..should Honda offer an AWD Accord?
    1:05 - no PHEV (dinged the CRV for this)
    I’m not sure why, but for whatever reason I have less expectation that an Accord would be offered with a PHEV
    1:31 - no more sporty 2.0T
    In the past you’ve been able to get a properly punchy 2.0T Sport model Accord which which honest to god quick
    That old Sport’s 2.0T put out over 250 hp and almost 275 lbft
    Now the Accord tops out at 204 hp and 247 lbft
    2:13 - no pano roof
    This one is pretty cut and dry - you’ve got hyundai over here offering a Pano roof in their sonata for years now and it’s still not an option on the Accord no matter how much money you spend
    2:31 - no 360 camera
    Another strange omission from a new generation of car in 2023 is no option for a 360 camera
    We saw this on the CRV as well - however the new Pilot gets a 360 camera option and it’s top-down view is really nice
    3:00 - looks boring
    The car just looks kinda bland, especially from it’s more expressive look last year
    The front is comprised of a fairly plain hexagonal grille
    In some trims you will get silver accent pieces for your lower fascia for aero
    Your headlights are LED and your DRLs are simple Bars
    Around the side you cansee how long the hood is
    Each trim gets a specific wheel - we have 17s for EXL but you can get 19s
    There’s one hard body line down the belt but that’s the most going on
    You do have tapered sportback type roofline, but not hatch here
    And then around back you have an ALMOST full width LED tailbar
    There’s a small Honda H in the center
    You can get a molded lip spoiler and there are no exhaust ports
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    Good:
    4:34 - The driving experience
    You have enough power from the 2.0 hybrid system
    204 hp and 247 lbft 0-60 in the low 7 second range
    Your eCVT simulates gears in a familiar way while being smooth
    The steering is light enough to be relaxing while still having a direct and responsive feel
    The suspension isn’t adaptive, but the damper tuning makes for a really soft and supple ride
    And the cabin is quiet and refined to a surprising degree given the price point here
    5:45 - The efficiency (over engine)
    There’s a button in the cabin here where you can switch into EV mode
    Outside that, when the gas engine kicks in and you’re driving normally you’ll get 48 mpg combined from this EXL due to the 17 inch wheels
    Cars with the 19 inch wheels will get 44 mpg combined so keep that in mind
    6:29 - Interior design and screens
    I particularly like the full width honeycomb vents - they make me think of Audis
    I also like that you still get physical controls for your climate
    And then we talk screens and you can get big ones
    In the top Touring trim you can get a massive 12.3 inch infotainment scree
    That screen will come with wireless car play and android auto AND google built in
    You’ve also got hybrid power deployment readouts and a physical volume knob
    And then there’s the gauge cluster
    It’s a 10.2 inch completely digital cluster no matter what trim (wont get that on CRV)
    In the cluster you can even see your navigation..again very Audi
    You also have a HUD option
    And you can get a wireless charger given the right trim
    7:38 - Luxuries and comforts
    The Accord may not be classified as a luxury car, but you still get some really nice stuff in here to make any commute super comfortable
    On top-spec touring trims you’ll get things like heated AND cooled seats
    You can can also get heated seats in the rear
    8:03 - Rear seats are huge
    The car itself is 2.3 inches longer than last year making it longer than Camry and Sonata
    8:38 - Trunk is huge
    9:05 - Price is great
    The Accord starts around 27,300 for the non-hybrid
    And you’re getting a great platform at that price
    And then all the way topped out in the hybrid Touring trim
    You’ll spend just under 38k
    And at that price you’ve got a modern, well equipped, excellent riding car
    9:50 - Outro
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 292

  • @dwnshft
    @dwnshft  Рік тому +6

    Special thanks to our Patrons for their support of the channel! Honda Accord or Toyota Camry?

    • @volvoxc9086
      @volvoxc9086 Рік тому +1

      Camry is the class leader with no problem . Even sonata and k5 is better than the accord .

    • @MexicoTijuana741
      @MexicoTijuana741 Рік тому +3

      It’s so hard to go down to a least powerful car. I have the 2.0T 2021 and the power it has is perfect. How is Honda going to give customers that power and take it away. Now customers are turning to the KiA stinger GT for the same power or Toyota Camry TRD.

    • @volvoxc9086
      @volvoxc9086 Рік тому +1

      @@MexicoTijuana741 You ARE Right

    • @patone2184
      @patone2184 Рік тому +4

      Honda ❤❤❤

    • @donpaulweatherpluspaul2670
      @donpaulweatherpluspaul2670 Рік тому +7

      @@volvoxc9086 check the engine reliability on the Kia and Hyundai. Lots of serious problems being reported.

  • @jimmyjameson8705
    @jimmyjameson8705 Рік тому +56

    I think the new design is understated and elegant. I like it.

    • @TheLifetraveler1
      @TheLifetraveler1 11 місяців тому

      You haven't seen them in White yet. They look absolutely like an under cover cop car from the front. They look like a Ford Fusion from the side. It's a car, where the color of it, makes it more attractive.

  • @christopherdouglas8471
    @christopherdouglas8471 Рік тому +154

    204/247? Plenty. No panoramic roof? Could care less. I wish auto reviewers, in general, would realize the bulk of the buying market is NOT at the loaded end. As well, styling is entirely subjective. Sorry Matt, but I think some of your criticisms are off base. The pros are good. I still think the Accord is a solid, winning pick in its segment. Thanks. Chris.

    • @SpinachLeaf
      @SpinachLeaf Рік тому +16

      Ya man I hate the panoramic roof always being used as a negative by car reviewers. I see it as one less problem. The amount of heat those let in here in Texas during the summer can be pretty harsh not to mention for a while Toyota had a problem with them shattering.

    • @marksimonds13
      @marksimonds13 Рік тому +24

      Agree 100% - panoramic roofs are severely over rated. Also - many reviewers (including this video) are hung up on the loss of the 2.0T and "how Plain Jane the car looks now". If you look at the demographics of who's buying this car, (a recent study by the Hedges Company) you would see almost 50% of Accord buyers are over 55 years old. So for us "older folks" this is a very nice car.

    • @cameron6249
      @cameron6249 Рік тому +4

      @@marksimonds13 ...but just like in music, the older folks are not the bread n butter sales. don't be surprised when sales drop like a rock.

    • @ytsux9259
      @ytsux9259 Рік тому +1

      We just purchased a '23 CR-V Hybrid Sport and it doesn't have panoramic roof neither.

    • @stephenpowstinger733
      @stephenpowstinger733 Рік тому

      Best to review the top end so you can evaluate what’s available. Most people don’t buy the base model but somewhere in between.

  • @darkshift69
    @darkshift69 3 місяці тому +9

    You'd ding this because it isn't REQUIRED to plug in, and is able to RECHARGE ITSELF running only on gas?!?! Your priorities are backwards. Most people don't want to plug their car in for anything longer than three minutes at a gas pump and be done with it. That's the attraction of this car, it's not a detractor.

  • @klproby007
    @klproby007 2 місяці тому +3

    I purchased one last week. I love everything about the car. The engine doesn't run often, i got 500+ miles out of the first tank of fuel.

  • @PeckiePeck
    @PeckiePeck Рік тому +23

    I so appreciate the return to understated styling. I can't stand the flashiness wars taking place between car manufacturers and making everything look like a wanna-be race car or spaceship.

  • @nicoamarando3794
    @nicoamarando3794 Рік тому +44

    I just purchased a 2023 accord hybrid touring and traded in the top end Camry hybrid the xse fully loaded and I must say the accord is a way better driver. While the Camry xse looks more aggressive the accord drives WAY better. To be fair Camry hasn’t refreshed the vehicle yet and Honda did but man that touch screen in the Honda is super responsive I love it and the sound system

    • @verynick
      @verynick Рік тому +1

      Ahh you are the type of comment I need lol. How’s the noise level compare to Camry? Is the MPG so-so? I would assume Camry is better with MPG

    • @nicoamarando3794
      @nicoamarando3794 Рік тому +3

      @@verynick Noise level is much lower in the new accord. MPG im about 1,400 miles in so far and my car says 40mpg. so im sure by 2k miles it will be 42ish so the same as the camry and its bigger. To be fair the camry is to be redesigned later this year but the accord hybrid i like everything better except there is no 360 camera view and no heated steering wheel. The camry xse hybrid with the two tone top looked way sportier but dude the accord touring hybrid is sick i love it

    • @tonyredemann2001
      @tonyredemann2001 11 місяців тому +1

      How's the handling been on the Accord? Unfortunately the used BMW 320i xDrive I bought has been nothing but issues so I'm trading it in for the new Accord hybrid sport. I know it's not going to handle like my BMW did but after a test drive and from what I'm reading it does handle fairly well.
      Getting the sport hybrid so I will have the 19 inch wheels for better handling too

    • @nicoamarando3794
      @nicoamarando3794 11 місяців тому +1

      @@tonyredemann2001 Just go test drive it man. There are plenty of accord hybrid tourings in stock

    • @jaquilina27
      @jaquilina27 10 місяців тому +1

      ​@@tonyredemann2001just traded my 2014 335i in for the Accord Hybrid EXL for the same reliability issues you're having. Was spending over $2000 a year to keep fixing it. Honda isn't going to have the features and looks of a BMW but you won't be burning money into it.

  • @321blindboards
    @321blindboards Рік тому +60

    Personally i picked the 23 over previous years because they got rid of the more aggressive styling. I personally prefer the more sleek look.

    • @charlesjackson1700
      @charlesjackson1700 Рік тому +3

      I hated the 10th generation Accord. It was bulky and cumbersome.. The body panels were put together poorly..😝

    • @theodoremahanjr2301
      @theodoremahanjr2301 11 місяців тому

      My son's is a very attractive car! Gets plenty of compliments!

    • @grizzybear9111
      @grizzybear9111 11 місяців тому +1

      @@charlesjackson1700 lol body panels put together poorly .. yea ok

    • @pointsur67
      @pointsur67 6 місяців тому

      So did I. I did not like the "Boba Fett" front end. I prefer the cleaner look of my 2023

  • @danjoe22
    @danjoe22 Рік тому +6

    you say the styling is vanilla, I say it is understated elegance. To each is own, I think Honda got it right.

  • @Nannog
    @Nannog Рік тому +21

    I love it! Got mine 1 month ago and so far has been a solid car. gets 46 mpg without even trying. Fast enough if you need to and very comfortable drive.

    • @user-um4ki7fs4t
      @user-um4ki7fs4t 9 місяців тому

      you recommend it? what color?

    • @JanardhenJ
      @JanardhenJ 9 місяців тому

      may i know ur out the door price?

    • @Nannog
      @Nannog 9 місяців тому +1

      @@user-um4ki7fs4t def bro beast daily. I take it to work I deliver weed . At 10k miles rn and body kits and mods are finally coming so you can make it look nicer if u want.

    • @Nannog
      @Nannog 9 місяців тому

      @@user-um4ki7fs4t i have the metallic red one

    • @Nannog
      @Nannog 9 місяців тому

      @@JanardhenJ came out like 32-33k

  • @gunsmoke9828
    @gunsmoke9828 Рік тому +8

    This guy keeps saying its "plain".... if you want an exotic, go buy an exotic! Normal people like me will enjoy this car and love the MPGs. Hondas are tuff and last a long time...even if they are plain.

  • @34kundalini
    @34kundalini Рік тому +3

    Three weeks I took the Sport L for a test drive. I loved it.LOVED IT!!!

  • @FloridaClay
    @FloridaClay Рік тому +4

    Another example of "beauty is in the eye of the beholder." To me, your "plain" is my unexpectedly elegant.

  • @therealbologna2
    @therealbologna2 Рік тому +5

    I like the design. very sleek, clean, and modern

  • @ytsux9259
    @ytsux9259 Рік тому +2

    I just purchased a '23 CR-V Hybrid Sport Touring and am waiting delivery. It's similar to the Accord hybrid. Hopefully it'll good. We had a '14 CR-V and it's been pretty awesome in reliability and dependability, but it's time to upgrade to a new model.

  • @shyshy808
    @shyshy808 10 місяців тому

    Excellent review thank you

  • @butkusrules08
    @butkusrules08 Рік тому +1

    I test drive one last Friday..it seems so loud. That motor drones on and on inside that cabin in all but the lightest accelerator use.

  • @koven1497
    @koven1497 Рік тому +8

    If they would add a HUD, 12” screen, full digital, ventilated seats and get rid of the iridescent lights in the rear of the top trim CRV…I’d buy it.

    • @aichan5235
      @aichan5235 Рік тому +1

      agreed

    • @donpaulweatherpluspaul2670
      @donpaulweatherpluspaul2670 4 місяці тому

      I have a 2023 CRV Sport Touring hybrid, following my 2020 Touring Accord. The AC in my CRV, even when I have it in Economy mode, is incredibly efficient, so I don't miss the ventilated seats in the black leather interior like I thought I would. But I DO miss the HUD, because I'm the King of Lost and enjoyed having the compass in constant view. On the other hand, the greatly superior ease of getting in and out with arthritic knees is an enormous plus for the CRV, which is the most refined Honda I've had, after 7 high end Accords on lease. I assume the new Accord Touring is just as refined, with greatly reduced road noise as in the CRV. AWD has come in handy during one very snowy week we had in January...it + the Snow mode worked better than I expected.

  • @Zach-ls1if
    @Zach-ls1if 9 місяців тому +1

    I can sleep in the trunk with the back seats down. This is a huge plus for me as I love going on long road trips.

  • @donpaulweatherpluspaul2670
    @donpaulweatherpluspaul2670 Рік тому +11

    I just finished my 7th consecutive lease of a high end Accord, the most recent being a 2020 Touring edition...5 V6s and 2 2L/10 AT drivetrains, all great...and fast. But when Accord added 2.7" of superfluous length, that ended my Accord run, as it's now too long for my garage. I think the new edition added a small bit of legroom to an already-huge back seat. The trunk, by the way, is identical to the previous edition: 16.7 cu ft, it's not larger as suggested in this review. So, I ended up leasing the slightly pricier CRV Sport Touring edition, and I'm delighted. I would guess the CRV is about .4 or.5 sec slower than the Accord, but it's NOT slow. Excellent torque off the line, shockingly little body roll and good cornering, and it's the quietest Honda I've had (I assume the new Accord hybrid is just as quiet), with less road noise on coarse road surfaces than my previous Accord. Also, the CRV Sport Touring edition is quieter than all the other CRVs due to more sound deadening and acoustically lined windshield and side window glass. I sat in 3 unlocked Accords Sunday at my Honda dealer. It may be unfair, since those Accords had not yet been detailed and prepped, but the interior of my ST CRV looked nicer. Even the honeycombed grill on the dash looked better. The drivetrains are virtually identical, excepting my CRV is AWD, not FWD. Same 204/247 numbers. Ride is generally serene, drivetrain is more responsive than I'd expected, ergonomics are Honda fine, fairly similar to Accord, with the same high end Bose sound system...best ever in a Honda. The biggest plus for an old dude like me is the perfect seat height in the CRV...just right. My stiff knees really hurt getting in and out of the otherwise comfortable Accord. If I didn't know better, I'd say the 2023 Accord front seats felt even lower than my 2020, but I could be imagining that after enjoying 3 weeks of superior comfort in my CRV. Two annoyances: no HUD and no ventilated seats, as I had in my Accord Touring. Inexcusable at this price point. But I DO have a heated steering wheel. In any case, all things considered, I suffered zero buyers/leasers remorse after sitting in those Accords. I'm glad I got the high end CRV, and definitely like it better than I do the Accord. By the way, subjectively, the front end of the S.T. CRV looks WAY better and more aggressive than the muted Accord grill, and my dark very metallic blue CRV has been a head-turner in the Wegmans parking lot, not that I really care about impressing others. By the way, if you have kids and car seats, the CRV is definitely the better choice, since rear doors open to near 90 degrees, and the back seat is very large and accessible (also reclines to 8 different positions). If the Accord hadn't gone longer, I probably would have gladly gotten another Touring edition..but then I wouldn't have known what I was missing! PS: I always thought a heated steering wheel sounded almost trivial. The CRV Sport Touring has one, and now that's we're into colder weather, I have to say it's great!

    • @mclaybry
      @mclaybry Рік тому +2

      My sister wanted the Accord hybrid so in March I went with her to the dealership to test drive one in Raleigh, NC. I sat in the back while she test drove the Accord- neither of us were impressed. When I suggested she test drive the CR-V hybrid, she was hesitant, as her hopes were set on the Accord, but she agreed. The CR-V is now sitting in her garage. She loves everything about it, except one thing- no Sirius/XM integration (but she canceled her subscription anyway and uses the bluetooth). I love the CR-V hybrid, too, but I require a pano roof.

    • @billyrock8305
      @billyrock8305 Рік тому +3

      Excellent and detailed comparison summary. ✅

    • @scottanthony3426
      @scottanthony3426 7 місяців тому

      The only whiff on the CRV seems to be (for me), the lame 1,000 lb towing capacity. I'm in the market to replace my '14 Forester XT, and it tows 1500 (unless the XT tows more, and I didn't get the memo). But it feels like the CRV should be called a SuV (lower case "U" due to lower utility). So, I'm actually toying with getting a sedan for my wife to daily drive, and keep the Forester for occasional lighter towing (short distance), and snow days.(Rather than giving up towing capacity with a CRV). The Accord Touring is on the list, but some things that they left off are starting to deter me. Night lighting (another video - "MikesCars or something did a night drive) is disappointing (no puddle lights, fog lights) and they don't include a compact spare (we don't all live in metro areas). Fortunately, I'm not in a hurry. There isa lot to like about the Accord, but I'll definitely gawk at the CRV Sport Touring. Maybe I'll just make a few extra trips to the yard waste place and load my trailer lighter. Thanks a bunch for all your insights and comparisons. My gripes may seem small to some, but we're at that point in life where we do want something a little nicer with some nice features. Noise reduction is something we'd like now, after a lifetime of noisy cars. Small stuff that seems trivial, is not trivial when you no longer have it. My Forester has puddle lights, which are great for approaching at night (I guess the Accord exterior lights come on(?) when you unlock, so maybe that is fine). I also have HomeLink, so garage door opening is integrated into the rearview mirror. Sounds trivial, but no worries about someone swiping your opener from the parked car and getting into your garage. A friendr has a E-Class Mercedes (2019) and they didn't end up with this. I drive it on occasion, and now find it really clunky to have the clip on opener. My 1998 Accord LX had small courtesy lights on the lower part of all 4 doors. The current gen doesn't. Of course, vast improvement since then in many areas, but it always felt like if you bought an Accord, you could trust them to surprise you with all the nice little touches that you hadn't even thought of. Yeah, the length has gotten wild. Not sure how much leg room is really necessary back there, but I like the more upscale refinement/ flavor (and a bit of extra crashworthyness) of the Accord over the Civic. There was also a time when it was cheaper to insure an Accord than a Civic. (Maybe the driver demographic was a driving force. Stodgy "old people" driving Accords fewer miles with generally better claim rates.)

    • @donpaulweatherpluspaul2670
      @donpaulweatherpluspaul2670 7 місяців тому +1

      @@scottanthony3426 Small point, scott. On my 2018 and 2020 Accords, the fog lights had become superfluous, adding virtually nothing to the LED headlights, especially in my 2020 Accord Touring. I'd switch them on and off in my driveway, and you could barely tell they were on, if at all. My wife has a big Wrangler Willys 4exe (a pig, if you ask me), but it does out it does any towing we need to do.

    • @scottanthony3426
      @scottanthony3426 7 місяців тому

      @@donpaulweatherpluspaul2670 Thanks for that info. Yes, I got the optional fog lights on my Forester XT, and while they help (wider beam, a little more light), they are underwhelming. Ditto on my BRZ. I have always wondered if they just put half baked fog lights on, or if the headlights have just gotten so much better, that there is not the huge gap like there was in the old days. I had an early 80's Accord, and put some Cibe fog lights on (clear). I think they had laser cut glass lenses, and some kind of bright bulbs. They were far superior to the OEM incandescents of the era. But, realizing that being my age means eyes just don't do as well adapting to dark, I'm looking for every advantage, without becoming a blinding hazard for on-coming.

  • @bradtbickford
    @bradtbickford Рік тому +11

    I bought one a few weeks ago and love it, avg about 46 mph every day, even hot 53 mph one day bc traffic was so bad lol. Curious though, why would you want a plug in hybrid? Mine is really easy to get fully charged in a few minutes driving around town.

  • @richardc6932
    @richardc6932 Рік тому +5

    The last time that I was connected to a cord (unbiblical) and that was 75 plus years ago. Plugs ins at this time are a pain when travelling due to the shortage of charging stations and when you find one it won’t be in a rural setting and always ties up up for some time compared to at a gas pump.

  • @JimiMiki
    @JimiMiki Рік тому +2

    How do the regen peddles work? Is it + for more brake (slows down the car) or - for more regen (slows down the car)?

  • @biggetl1319
    @biggetl1319 4 місяці тому +1

    I just bought a 2024 EXL hybrid and so far, it's ok. I agree, the styling is a little generic. The power is adequate for me, it's not a race car. Fuel efficiency and hopefully reliability is the main reason I bought it. Over the first 1000 miles I'm averaging 47 mpg! There are a few things I don't like. The front passenger seat is way too low and you can't adjust higher. It has a little more cabin noise than I'm used to. Hopefully that will improve with better tires. The Hankook OEM tires suck.

  • @HuasoPodrido
    @HuasoPodrido 10 місяців тому

    I just bought a Sport L hybrid, excellent car. Only thing I will get real soon is a spare tire, the kit they include for a flat is meant for bicycle's . Get it together Honda include that spare again

  • @guateguy
    @guateguy Рік тому +14

    Nice review, I’m getting an EX-L in meteorite gray metallic soon. One correction is that none of the trim levels offer heated steering. Also good to know that the sport models don’t have rear vents or charging ports.

    • @harrytej
      @harrytej Рік тому +1

      And adaptive dampers

    • @kevinbonquyquy1047
      @kevinbonquyquy1047 Рік тому

      Such a bummer that the sport doesn’t have rear vents. The wheels on those ones look the best

    • @Steve_in_NJ
      @Steve_in_NJ Рік тому

      As I commented in great detail, we are getting a 2023 Camry for many reasons, but yes, Camry does offer a heated steering wheel option too!

    • @MAMAvsGOD
      @MAMAvsGOD Рік тому +1

      @@Steve_in_NJ if you get 2023 that’s pretty slow knowing 2024 is around corner

    • @Steve_in_NJ
      @Steve_in_NJ Рік тому +1

      @@MAMAvsGOD Our current lease expires, cannot wait another year.

  • @debdixon6272
    @debdixon6272 Рік тому +3

    I like the look of it and the mpg.

  • @34kundalini
    @34kundalini Рік тому +2

    I had an 18 2 liter that i absolutely loves driving. Honda will make some adjustments for the 24. Well I hope they will. This is an awesome e car but this Accord is receiving mixed reviews for its styling.

    • @SIIKAP1
      @SIIKAP1 10 місяців тому

      It receives mixed reviews every time a new body style comes out. Always lots of haters at first.

  • @mtznow22
    @mtznow22 10 місяців тому +1

    I have seen reviews where they say that in winter and the cold car does not respond or loses a lot of strength, What do you think? On the other hand, I liked the review, thank you!

    • @donpaulweatherpluspaul2670
      @donpaulweatherpluspaul2670 4 місяці тому

      I have the high end CRV hybrid. It doesn't lose responsiveness at all in cold weather, but mpg does go down in all hybrids. I slip below EPA numbers in the winter, and generally beat the EPA numbers in warm weather, especially on the urban cycle.

  • @martingriggs6362
    @martingriggs6362 Рік тому +5

    I drove 3 different Honda Accords (2 hybrids, and one EX) when I was looking for a car for my business. I am on the highway a lot. For what I need, all of them did not ride the way I wanted them to. I eventually ended up buying a Kia K5 Gt-line. I am very happy with it.

    • @user-um4ki7fs4t
      @user-um4ki7fs4t 9 місяців тому

      why you didnt choose accord hybrid ?

  • @marklassman1676
    @marklassman1676 Рік тому +8

    Just bought (last week) the EX-L version. Was planning to get the Touring, as I wanted the Bose speakers, but that wasn't a 'must-have' feature. Neither was the head-up display. Nice, but not a dealbreaker if it's not there. I couldn't care less about ventilated seats. I mean, it'd be nice on those hot days here in SoCal, but I've never had a car that had them. My mom has it in her Lincoln, but says she's never needed to use it. Heated seats? Heated steering wheel? We're in Southern California. No need for heated anything here. This isn't Chicago or Buffalo.
    Since the EX-L is, if you take away the four of five features unique to the Touring model, the exact same car as is the Touring. Only other difference is the 17" wheels, which reward you with slightly improved MPG.
    Again, I was going for the Touring, initially, but couldn't get the payments down low enough to make it work for me. Decided to go with the EX-L. Have had it for just one week, and am VERY happy with it. Thought I wanted a CR-V, but am glad I didn't go that direction.

    • @NurNordschleife
      @NurNordschleife Рік тому

      You have the same thoughts on mentioned options. But I wouldn’t mind having the HUD and ventilated seats. I am in the market for the Accord and thought about getting the Touring and downgrading the wheels/ties to some 17 or 18’s aftermarket.

    • @captmaverickable
      @captmaverickable Рік тому

      Heads up display windshield is over $1000 to replace. INSANE, you’re going to get a rock chip eventually.

    • @Call.Me.Mello.
      @Call.Me.Mello. 11 місяців тому

      I believe the EX-L also has more combined driving range. An impressive 653.31 city miles and 563.64 highway miles on the EX-L to 589.26 city miles and 525.21 highway miles on the Touring. That's the same amount of range on the other hybrid trims as well. So from a practically standpoint, I'd say you made a great choice with the EX-L.

    • @donpaulweatherpluspaul2670
      @donpaulweatherpluspaul2670 4 місяці тому

      @@Call.Me.Mello. Although I absolutely love my 2023 Sport Touring CRV hybrid, the Accord Touring definitely gets considerably better mpg. My CRV weighs 500 lb more than the Accord, and the CD is .33 instead of .27. I would estimate, despite excellent off the line torque, the CRV with the same drivetrain (although I have AWD) is about .5 sec slower 0-60 than the Accord.

  • @beverlytynes4602
    @beverlytynes4602 11 місяців тому +1

    I love this car! Comfortable and nice. I have a problem with no Spare tire as standard. The tire pumps are a joke. The Apple Car play is horrible and very frustrating how is works then turns off. messaging working fine and now not. I do not understand why there is internet but using my hot spot and blue tooth. No directions except to come here and figure it out.

    • @DevineLoved
      @DevineLoved 6 місяців тому

      So do you love it or hate it ? Quiet contradicting lol

  • @michaelsalerno393
    @michaelsalerno393 9 місяців тому

    I got the EX-l. Had to wait for the blue but it is a great car.

  • @BrianLumsden
    @BrianLumsden Рік тому +3

    Honda and others need to find a better place for wireless charging that doesn’t occupy an entire storage compartment (see Hyundai Santa Fe’s drop-in charging slot).

    • @Steve_in_NJ
      @Steve_in_NJ Рік тому

      Our 2023 Camry has wireless charging on a tray that slides in and out of the storage compartment, which is a great feature (now if only my Samsung A71 had wireless charging...).

  • @iphonecim1199
    @iphonecim1199 Рік тому +3

    I have the sport L and it’s a way better look. The black rims really make it stand out.

  • @jamesm1845
    @jamesm1845 11 місяців тому

    I wonder if you can get Recaro replacement seats for the 2023 Honda accord touring hybrid? The one thing I really don’t like is how low the passenger seat is

    • @danielkaufman5610
      @danielkaufman5610 10 місяців тому

      The fact that the passenger seat in the Touring trim lacks a height adjustment is a big ding for me and my passengers, most of whom are 60+. It sits way too low. And no 360 camera or forward mount camera on a $38k mainstream sedan is a disappointment. But I love driving it and the fuel economy, especially coming from my prior 2017 Mazda6 before. And one other thing, no Sirius XM radio is available; you have to stream via Android Auto or Apple CarPlay

  • @tonyredemann2001
    @tonyredemann2001 2 місяці тому

    The no sporty 2.0T is whatever to me. I bought it for reliability and gas. From my understanding the Accord was originally created as a family sedan focus, not a sporty car.
    I like the style too, at first I wasn't sure, but I think it's really nice. Very sophisticated and smooth looking. Nothing seems odd or too much either imo. My stepdad loved it more and more seeing it set outside of work 😂

  • @Corpsealot
    @Corpsealot Рік тому +6

    I have this trim and am able to get between 45 - 50 mpg hwy.

    • @jayo8484
      @jayo8484 Рік тому

      Are you constantly driving in eco mode because I’m averaging 38?

    • @Corpsealot
      @Corpsealot Рік тому

      @@jayo8484 Yeah I’m in Eco mode when driving to work. My commute is mostly level and can be a little busy so I leave it in Eco.

  • @johnhodgeman3980
    @johnhodgeman3980 10 місяців тому +2

    Compared to last generation's car, I think Honda missed the mark with styling. It is plain. I like an understated look as much as the next person but this isnt a sleeper car. It's just plain sleeping. There's no pizzazz. Even understated looking cars have something to make them stand out. This ain't understated. It's undercooked. Invisible. They Cena'd it but not in a good way.
    The interior is classed up. An improvement over the last gen. Better ergonomics. Cleaner.
    If you just want a point and shoot camera, Accord is always on the short list. They're good like that. But if you want your point and shoot to look good while doing it, this ain't it. They took a step back. On the Civic, it works. Stretched out on the Accord: it's missing something. They took away what was eye catching with the last gen and didnt even bother replacing it with something just as good.

  • @garyolafson8303
    @garyolafson8303 Рік тому +4

    You couldn't zoom into the Window Sticker with your camera ? Technical guys like myself like to read the window sticker - lot's of good info there - less yack'n. Who mounted that LF tire to the wheel ? Not Honda factory mounted - red tire dot not matched (aligned) properly to valve stem location

    • @stevehoppenjan
      @stevehoppenjan Рік тому

      Gary. I thought exactly the same thing when I took delivery of my new Touring model. I thought they were always supposed to have the valve stem and the red dot aligned. No other model has these wheels, so I am assuming it was done at the factory. Is it possible that there is something else going on here that has changed this?

  • @nickphillips2125
    @nickphillips2125 10 місяців тому +1

    You're right, more often than not, if a person wants the extra "bells & whistles"... Honda forces customers to buy Acura

  • @scottanthony3426
    @scottanthony3426 7 місяців тому

    Other things missing: Fog lights. A compact spare. I agree on the 6 whiffs. Time for the bird's eye camera/360 view. Especially by the time you get the touring. Just watched a video on driving at night, and they cut corners there (rear seat, doors, puddle lights) that are disappointing to not have in the higher trim levels. I had a '98 LX, and it had little lights in the lower door panels on all 4 doors. This generation does not. I guess they are counting on daytime test drives. It always felt like you could count on the old Accords to have those thoughtful touches. Now too many Accountants involved.

    • @donpaulweatherpluspaul2670
      @donpaulweatherpluspaul2670 4 місяці тому

      On lighting...my 2023 CRV hybrid headlights are, by far, the best I've ever had, following 7 leased Accords. Even on low beam, both sides of the road are lit...much better in deer/raccoon country...yet I never get flashed by other drivers, so I know I'm not blinding them. The Accord had a cutoff on the left night lighting which was a hazard on some curves in night driving.

    • @scottanthony3426
      @scottanthony3426 4 місяці тому

      @@donpaulweatherpluspaul2670 I had a '98 Accord LX back in the day and it had among the worst headlights of any car I have owned (at least in the halogen era and beyond. I had a Outback 2 years newer, and it was far superior.)

  • @Zach-ls1if
    @Zach-ls1if 9 місяців тому

    I really like the plain look of the body. It kind of reminds me of a Dodge Charger in the front, a Chrysler 300 on the sides, and a Tesla Model 3 towards the back

  • @84jdubb
    @84jdubb 10 місяців тому

    Honda has some catching up to do even in their suvs their vehicles are SOLID but just get by as far as looks and style their thing has always been lasting durability and quality over quantity

  • @Barolo818
    @Barolo818 Рік тому +3

    I want one, wish it was a bit quicker

  • @TYPICALTRYHARD_
    @TYPICALTRYHARD_ Рік тому +1

    Its kind of weird that they don't have certain options like the pano roof here because in other markets like china they had the pano roof the previous gen of the accord probably had to do with regulations and such im not the biggest fan of pano roofs but for people who like them it would've been nice

  • @GlennLaycock
    @GlennLaycock 11 місяців тому

    I always liked the Accord; my Elantra now - it was "well it is the size of the old Accord I remember before it got full sized". Apparently this one gets the same gas mileage on full patrols offered by others in "real life" (they say the ratings are not real world at all - re: "motormouth canada - new accord")

  • @ItsChrisWorld
    @ItsChrisWorld Рік тому +4

    Looks better in dark colors. The lighter colors make the Accord hideous

  • @pointsur67
    @pointsur67 6 місяців тому

    I had a choice last may of either the Camry or the Accord. I looked at both and went with the Accord EX (Platinum White). Why? For one, I have been a Honda lover for decades, so there is some bias. On the Camry, I did not like the interior styling. The cockpit felt cramped. I could not get past that "S" divider weaving down the middle of the console. I'm a big guy, so I need that space. Also, I don't like the front end of the Camry. It seems too busy. I did not care for the nose on the Accord, but its simpler, look was more appealing, and I got used to it over time. Because the 11th Gen is still fairly new, I still get people asking me what it is. During Car Week at Monterey back in August, I only saw ONE other 11th Gen (Gray). If they didn't see the badges, they were trying to figure it out.
    People may not understand the CVT. I didn't understand it either, until I drove from Northern California to Las Vegas. NOW I get what they were aiming for. For touring, It's the Accord all day!

  • @richardsmith579
    @richardsmith579 Рік тому +3

    I really hate panoramic roofs, so that’s a bonus.

    • @dwnshft
      @dwnshft  Рік тому

      interesting - why do you hate them?

    • @richardsmith579
      @richardsmith579 Рік тому +3

      @@dwnshft . Because they let in overhead light, which I really really dislike, and they are made of glass and so add unnecessary weight. I like my cars to give me a sense of protection, which is one of many reasons I shy away from convertibles. It’s a me thing I know but I can’t help myself. I also love deep, plush, velour seating, in a colour too. I’m sure colour car will return to car interiors, but probably after I’m dead…. Never mind. I remember being in a gorgeous Fiat 130 with deep blue velour seats in the late seventies, it was a magnificent car. Thanks for getting back.

    • @georgex7442
      @georgex7442 Рік тому

      Fr

  • @dleonf2832
    @dleonf2832 11 місяців тому

    I have never heard anyone comment on how difficult it is to clean the rear window on the 10th generation and the 2023 Accords. I had a 2020 Accord Sport which has the same angle slanted rear back window as the new 2023 model. When simply cleaning the back window, it’s impossible t clean the entire window due to the angle of the window. Has anyone else had this issue or found a solution?

    • @skimanfree1073
      @skimanfree1073 10 місяців тому

      That would be a deal breaker for me

  • @Kakashi-iw3xh
    @Kakashi-iw3xh 9 місяців тому

    Accord 2024 touring hybrid does not have heated steering wheel and its not available as an option as well. Minor correction. 7:39

  • @Zach-ls1if
    @Zach-ls1if 9 місяців тому

    I guess since I don’t even know what a 360 camera is then I won’t be missing it lol

  • @BamaNewYorker
    @BamaNewYorker Рік тому +3

    I love this car. I have the 2020 Touring.
    The biggest thing I hate is that Honda still insists on using the engine to heat the cabin.
    This means in cold weather, you can't get out of your driveway in EV mode. You can't do anything in EV mode until the engine gets up to temperature.

    • @verynick
      @verynick Рік тому

      I also have 2020 Touring haha wasn’t aware in the heat engine. I thought they moved to heat pump by now. How you liking the 2020?

    • @Zach-ls1if
      @Zach-ls1if 9 місяців тому

      Can’t you turn your heater off?

    • @Zach-ls1if
      @Zach-ls1if 9 місяців тому

      Can’t you turn your heater off?

  • @Lokahi-fo-life
    @Lokahi-fo-life 7 місяців тому

    Your complaints and praises are exactly what Honda is aiming for. So, I think Honda did a fine job. Everyone wants different things and you can’t get everything you want. I’d like a 500 hp, 50mpg, luxurious, sporty, suv, that handles like it’s on rails for under 20k.

  • @Solidstate89
    @Solidstate89 Рік тому +2

    You only get the heated steering wheel if you're in Canada.

    • @marklassman1676
      @marklassman1676 Рік тому +2

      And Canada is probably the only place where you might actually WANT that. My parents were born and raised in Chicago. Myself, I went to school out there for a few years. As cold as it can get out there, never have we ever thought, "Gee, we wish that we had a heated steering wheel!"

  • @trealb.j.8462
    @trealb.j.8462 11 місяців тому +2

    I got mines about a month ago and I love it. I get a lot of compliments on my accord.

  • @c.d.willis4278
    @c.d.willis4278 Рік тому +2

    It looks like a Ford Taurus; what happened to the Fog lamps?

  • @stso0000
    @stso0000 Рік тому +3

    Given the recent production history of both the Civic and the Acura Integra, I am curious to see if Honda offers a future performance version of the Accord. Honda initially released regular trims for the Civic and the Integra then followed up with performance trims the next year. I was considering buying a 2.0T Accord in this generation but Honda's decision to drop that engine has me considering alternatives. We shall see.

    • @richardc6932
      @richardc6932 Рік тому +1

      Buyers would love to have some of the upgrades shown on the higher lever models but these overpriced vehicles are already too high to consider. They are milking the buyer and justifying the price due to scarcity of new vehicles.

    • @ytsux9259
      @ytsux9259 Рік тому +1

      There is little demand for a performance Accord and that's why Honda won't make it.

  • @johnnnewmex
    @johnnnewmex 6 місяців тому

    People get paid to complain about the Accord not being a plug in? What has the world come to.

  • @cjd3879
    @cjd3879 11 місяців тому +1

    No 360 camera and no Pano sunroof are deal breakers for me.

  • @a32tl
    @a32tl 5 місяців тому

    I just wish Honda had dropped the 1.5T engine, offered the hybrid as their core powertrain and continued to offer the 2.0T engine for those of us who prefer more power. I have nothing against the Accord Hybrid for what it is. But as an owner of a '21 Accord Touring 2.0T, I would not be satisfied with the lesser performance, despite the vastly improved fuel economy.

  • @unlogical2188
    @unlogical2188 Рік тому

    South east asian models of the accord have pano roof and power reclining rear seats

  • @foxtrotwolf6081
    @foxtrotwolf6081 2 місяці тому

    To put it in perspective, how does this "boring" design compare to your assessment of the Audi A7 design?

  • @stephenpowstinger733
    @stephenpowstinger733 Рік тому

    He bemoans the lack of a plug-in hybrid. Well, I would not need the extra EV mileage of the PHEV and the large battery runs up the price thousands.
    …I’ve heard it now lacks SiriusXM, which for me is a deficiency.
    …I’m driving a 2023 Subaru for which the federal gas mileage published is way overstated (by 7 mpg). I hope the listed mpg here is accurate.
    …vs the Camry this is up-to-date but the Camry offers some snazzy style options and red seats.

  • @orionobolon4380
    @orionobolon4380 9 місяців тому

    yup probably buying this car

  • @ccieniawa
    @ccieniawa Рік тому +7

    I looked at the new Accord. Uninspiring exterior design. And if you think all that gloss black interior trim is expensive looking, then you have a different taste than me. Smudge collector and cheap looking in any car.

  • @nicksiks1407
    @nicksiks1407 Рік тому +3

    No satellite radio, no heated steering wheel…

  • @billhickman7903
    @billhickman7903 Рік тому +3

    Its the new version of Ford Taurus

  • @FiiGGy3
    @FiiGGy3 9 місяців тому

    I don’t think they come with steering wheel heated option. I got a fully loaded touring and cannot find the button. Please let me know where it would bee

    • @donpaulweatherpluspaul2670
      @donpaulweatherpluspaul2670 4 місяці тому

      In the CRV Sport Touring hybrid, it's a button on the bottom spoke of the steering wheel, and it's standard on that model. I don't get why Honda eliminated Sirius/XM in the Accord. I still love it in my CRV. Got the subscription cost down in some phone negotiating.

    • @FiiGGy3
      @FiiGGy3 4 місяці тому

      Yeah the accords don’t have it I thinking of swapping out the steering wheel with the pilot elite steering wheel it’s the exact same thing except the pilot does have it

  • @yoshiakik.5332
    @yoshiakik.5332 Рік тому +2

    Who cares if there is no pano sunroof in a mainstream car. This isn't a luxury car.

  • @Lemonhead8890
    @Lemonhead8890 11 місяців тому

    You didn't comment on the full 'Reflector' LED headlights and why I wont buy this vehicle.
    Not to mention several cut down like that one that don't correlate with a 40k+ vehicle.
    I am looking but for 40k+ you may as well buy a Lexus or Acura. Their base models have all this has but more for not much more.

  • @markbans
    @markbans 9 місяців тому

    i hate that there is no back set air-condition air vent..

  • @jasonsmith1143
    @jasonsmith1143 Рік тому

    add #7 for worst
    3 packages
    each $1,995.00
    @ the dealership where I live

  • @charlesjackson1700
    @charlesjackson1700 Рік тому +1

    Honda really cheaped out when they stop putting the Homelink on all Accords even the Touring and the EXL.. YOU CAN ONLY GET IT AS AN ADD-ON..😮

  • @monkeyboykc3190
    @monkeyboykc3190 Рік тому +4

    For close to $40k this definitely is missing quite a few accommodations. You think it have more to offer

  • @marklassman1676
    @marklassman1676 Рік тому +2

    No Panorama Sunroof? Who cares? Most of the time I'm the only one in my car. I don't care that the back seat doesn't get extra light.

    • @rinamarie75
      @rinamarie75 Рік тому

      I totally agree!!! I could care less

  • @Steve_in_NJ
    @Steve_in_NJ Рік тому +1

    My husband currently has a 2020 Accord Touring 2.0T -- lease is up and we are taking delivery this week of a ...... 2023 Camry XLE AWD!! Why not another Accord? Two reasons: most important reason is that at 6'3" he cannot fit into the shrunken driver's space of the redesigned Accord. Yes, as they made the Touring a hybrid now, the power seat tracks have been reduced by 2 inches to make room for the hybrid's batteries under the car's floorboard. Therefore, his legroom is too short for his tall frame. Second reason, the price. Over $42K for the car (Honda dealers won't stop at MSRP, as they will add "dealer fees" on top of the cost). Oh, and since our local Toyota dealership also has an out of state Honda dealership, they will take our current Accord and we won't have to pay any out of pocket costs to replaced scratched wheels and damaged tires. Saves us $2000 AND they will give us more $$$ for trade in value than the local Honda dealerships. Even with all this, the Camry (AWD, not available on Accord) XLE will cost us about $6K LESS than Accord. Now, we're Toyota drivers (I drive a Hyundai Kona, but won't lease another).

    • @jasonototheo
      @jasonototheo Рік тому +2

      I just bought an accord touring at under MSRP and without dealer accessories You can find cars at MSRP or below you just have to be willing to put a lot of effort in lol. Also, yes the Camry isn't as expensive, but the interior is incredibly outdated and not as refined as the new accords are. Lane assist on the Camrys, I found, on the test drive to be not as effective or subtle as in the new Prius of accord, as it's an older Lane assist technology. Although the absence of AWD is less the ideal on the accord I think the price difference between the XLE and an updated accord is justified and makes sense. I think we'll see a price increase in the redesigned 2024 Camry that makes it comparable with the price of the accord..... Your husband not fitting in the car makes total sense to get the Camry though. Enjoy the car! It wasn't for me but it is a great car!

    • @Steve_in_NJ
      @Steve_in_NJ Рік тому

      @@jasonototheo For hubby, he isn't a fan of "shopping around" and for him, "it's just a car" so even if Camry outdated, he doesn't care about the new tech anyway, he fits into the driver's seat comfortably, and the ride is smoother than Accord (less sporty so softer ride).

    • @jasonototheo
      @jasonototheo Рік тому +2

      @@Steve_in_NJ that's all that matters! Congrats to you guys!

    • @vdoggydogg3922
      @vdoggydogg3922 11 місяців тому

      i am also 6'3, this was the questions i was looking to be answered. Have a 2013 Accord Sport and has plenty of room for my legs and head. It is a not starter if the physics don't work. Thanks.

  • @claypyrotech7473
    @claypyrotech7473 10 місяців тому

    I have a 2023 Honda Aacord Hybrid. I Don't need AWD I don't need panoramic sun roof or 360 cameras it's a sadan easy to park. I think the Accord looks better then Any GM sadan at the same price. For me owning it for 4 months I been getting about 50 MPG with my 19in wheels. The main thing I didn't like on my Accord is no Spare tire.

  • @user-dd7kx2ze6w
    @user-dd7kx2ze6w 10 місяців тому

    How you witch into gas

  • @usr604
    @usr604 5 місяців тому

    If you read the Japanese pamphlet for the new Honda Accord it says that the audience they aim for are men in 50 years old and above.

  • @wurly164
    @wurly164 10 місяців тому +1

    It sounds like a lot of interior noise

  • @smithvr4669
    @smithvr4669 Рік тому

    if they put white interior it will look good

  • @whatwhome6914
    @whatwhome6914 Рік тому +6

    My issues with the new Accord are that the riding position is too low and the car is too long.

  • @Mysteryp7
    @Mysteryp7 4 місяці тому

    agree except. looking booring. lol that is just way too much your personal lol . looks very nice to me.

  • @jasonligo895
    @jasonligo895 4 місяці тому

    It is indeed a nice driving car. More imagination could have been used in the styling of the car, however.

  • @ultrahd3388
    @ultrahd3388 10 місяців тому

    lack of power is worst thing about it.

  • @JerryCurl-wt8gb
    @JerryCurl-wt8gb Рік тому +5

    Damn that is a nice car! Looks amazing to my eyes.
    Would not and will not EVER own a Hyundai piece of poop, nor a Killed In Action (KIA). Disposable garbage.
    This Accord is pure class, thank you for the redesign Honda.

  • @justincredible1990
    @justincredible1990 Рік тому +1

    Anyone ever told you you look almost exactly like Jack Wilshere?

  • @michaelvella8511
    @michaelvella8511 Рік тому +3

    Great review. Personally I think the positives out way the negatives here.

  • @Aceofswe
    @Aceofswe 11 місяців тому

    Does the better sound isolation compared to the Civic warrant buying the Accord, if one mostly drives on highways?

    • @sarahbarker4753
      @sarahbarker4753 10 місяців тому

      No it sucks and the passenger seat doesn't even lower and raise. My husband just bought one. Traded a 2917 that was built 10 times better. They've taken off every thing they can and it's a piece of crap..

    • @sarahbarker4753
      @sarahbarker4753 10 місяців тому

      No it's noisy. So uncomfortable.

  • @russ1808
    @russ1808 Рік тому +1

    No SiriusXM 😢

  • @nonchalantjo
    @nonchalantjo Рік тому

    No heated steering wheel*

  • @BaoLe-ee6ed
    @BaoLe-ee6ed Рік тому

    Cant get heated steering wheel in the USA

  • @williamwilkins3084
    @williamwilkins3084 10 місяців тому

    It's styling is still trying to catch up with my 2014 Impala.

  • @lewiskemp5893
    @lewiskemp5893 Рік тому

    Where's the Turbo

  • @drblitz3092
    @drblitz3092 Рік тому

    gotta be honest. it looks like a kitchen appliance

  • @9546aw
    @9546aw 9 місяців тому

    The problems I find with the 2023 Honda Accord: 1. No All Wheel Drive is available 2. No heated steering Wheel is available 3. No spare tire is available 4. No XM Radio. Hopefully, by the time 2025 comes around these deficiencies will be resolved. The single worst thing is no spare. When you add sales tax you are well over $40,000.

    • @MrMuchachos75
      @MrMuchachos75 4 місяці тому

      Here he is. Mr cut and paste same response all channels. He’s a troll

    • @9546aw
      @9546aw 4 місяці тому

      What is more important: Is what I say in my comment true or is it a lie? My goal is for Honda to make the spare tire kit standard. It is interesting that three months after i began making my comments Honda made a Spare Tire Package available at Honda parts counters. I will compliment myself and think I am the cause of that. Do you think it interesting that the reviewer opened the trunk, lifted the floor mat to show the air pump but never commented that the car lacks an actual spare tire. When you consider the title of the video is: 6 WORST And 7 BEST Things About The 2023 Honda Accord Hybrid why is he totally silent about the spare tire?

  • @lewiskemp5893
    @lewiskemp5893 Рік тому

    I'll just keep my 6MT V6 6 Speed Accord coupe. Only reason I'm watching is I'm a body man so I have to fix them

  • @mmahtnart8986
    @mmahtnart8986 Рік тому

    Stock is boring. Please! Somebody with one of these, RIM-IT-UP!