_Correction: In Tekken Tag, Heihachi also had a Special Mid EWGF that gave push back on stand block_ Playlist for similar videos: ua-cam.com/play/PLmF026UEJVXOQOQf_o0L-0CFGz-wfOt7M.html
Great video mate 👍 PS: Do you think you can make a video, where you show a complete tutorial on how to make the EWGH of Kazuya, Jin, Heihachi, Devil and Angel please. I have been wanting to learn this movement for a long time but there is no video on UA-cam. By the way, I use a PS3 controller when I play fighting games.
@@MaverickHunterVile TTT Heihachi cant EWGF out of a forward dash or wave dash, he can EWGF out of a SS, though. So a common tactic was wavedash into a quick SS, then EWGF. Additional info, Heihachi cant tag buffer his EWGF. If you tag buffer, it turns into a normal WGF.
Heihachi's TTT EWGF was slightly harder to notice because the additional spark only appeared on hit (or block), instead of appearing before the hit, like it did for Jin. If you whiffed, you wouldn't know if it was an EWGF or not.
The only issue I have with EWHF for Jin is that he goes "deh" in Tekken 8. 4-7 was the peak. Him going *DAH!* was in it's own way a reward... or fear for the opponent.
Fun story: So I was mashing online and I accidentally did my first ever EWGF with Heihachi against a Steve player. I was literally so shook by the sound and Heihachi's call out of "OH YEA" that I didn't notice Steve's incoming low and I died for it. Worth it.
It has to do with his crouch dash stance, which he and Paul shared up until T6. That's why doing moves like qcf 2 is absurdly hard because you can't buffer it like as it is right now (any stance moves cannot be buffered). I thank God that stance is gone from Heihachi now in Tag 2 and T7.
It wasn’t „harder“ ewgf was and is a just frame for the last input f,n,d,df:2 The movement was stiffer so it was harder to wavedash.. but the input for ewgf hasn’t been changed.. Lol I had this discussion on tekken zaibatsu almost 20 years ago and we tested all the ewgf inputs with a p stick because that was such a heated debate 🤣🤣
Heihachi in Tekken Tag 1 had an electric wind god fist. His electric was the best one since it was a special mid. Jin's one was only a special mid if he pressed the tag button after.
In Tekken 2, the WGF puts everything else to shame, and I think that being able to do it immediately from the mist step is what puts Kazuya above Heihachi (who is a monster in T2) when it comes to tiers. T1 is not so simple to decide, as it has the infamous block stun attacks that guarantee follow-up damage.
The first Armor King had the EWGF... I wonder the connection... Yes, I know old TEKKEN, they had to use some same movesets for the bosses, but hey. It's something to think if he cannonically do that, it's funny he didn't teach his brother or new King that.
Armor King 1 and Wang Jinrei are Jinpachi Mishima's close friends. They're basically Heihachi's uncles. At least according to Tekken 1 and Tekken 5 backstory lore.
Should have pointed out the silly effect that an EWGF would give on counter hit in Tekken 3. Only move I can think of that's worse on counter than normal hit.
@@TK_TheFURY Yeah, you couldn't do ANYTHING with it. They were a million miles away. Jin's EWHF would do that in Tekken 4 and 5 but at least there you accepted you didn't get anything off it in the first place. With that EWGF effect you wondered why you even bothered since a normal launch would have been much more useful.
Great video mate 👍 PS: Do you think you can make a video, where you show a complete tutorial on how to make the EWGH of Kazuya, Jin, Heihachi, Devil and Angel please. I have been wanting to learn this movement for a long time but there is no video on UA-cam. By the way, I use a PS3 controller when I play fighting games.
Really late respond but Dorya is the line Kazuya say if you succesfuly input a EWGF (Electric Wind God Fist) for the meaning or translation of Dorya itself well i didnt know
In tekken 8, is there any point in using the mid electric? I suppose it gives chip damage on block. Are the hell sweep and omen interruptable or something? If they're both a frame trap then I don't see the point in the ewgf
it's a mixup, hellsweep and omen both can be beaten by a hopkick but ewgf connects in this case and ewgf can blocked but you have to guess between the mixup in this case.
you get 1 less frame for input for example you can do kazuya, devil jin and jin ewgf d,df input in 3 frames but for heihachi you get 2 frames which is exactly as the number of inputs so even down input was a just frame. for other mishimas you could delay df input by holding down input for more than 1 frame
Once sounds "DAH" changed into "deh" its just kinda powerless the way jin do it his EWHF. it sounds like he just been lazy or he just been tired to do it over n' over with "DAH" 😂.
Kazuya T1 and tekken tag 1 Eyad. T4 to T8 dorya Jin T3_tag 1 eeya. T4 to T7 dahh. 8 deh deehhya Heihachi T1 ooa T2 ooha T3 anf TT1 oriya T4,5 and 6 ? TT and T7 torya Just to waiste time
Kind of sad that it took until Tekken 8 which, as of this comment's time, is still an UNRELEASED game... for EWGF to actually have some nice special effects worthy of the move. Even T7's EWGF was 'meh' in the special FX department. Why it took THIS LONG to make it look good I have no idea... They could definitely have made it look good as far back as Tekken 5, easily... I mean look at all the flashy effects Jinpachi had, don't tell me they can't add an aura trail or something to the move... Yet, took THIS LONG, Tekken 8... for it to finally look good. So sad.
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_Correction: In Tekken Tag, Heihachi also had a Special Mid EWGF that gave push back on stand block_
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Great video mate 👍
PS: Do you think you can make a video, where you show a complete tutorial on how to make the EWGH of Kazuya, Jin, Heihachi, Devil and Angel please. I have been wanting to learn this movement for a long time but there is no video on UA-cam.
By the way, I use a PS3 controller when I play fighting games.
If memory serves, Heihachi's EWGF was only possible from a standstill position, worth mentioning.
@@MaverickHunterVile
TTT Heihachi cant EWGF out of a forward dash or wave dash, he can EWGF out of a SS, though. So a common tactic was wavedash into a quick SS, then EWGF.
Additional info, Heihachi cant tag buffer his EWGF. If you tag buffer, it turns into a normal WGF.
@@Zakillah Thanks for the info
Heihachi's TTT EWGF was slightly harder to notice because the additional spark only appeared on hit (or block), instead of appearing before the hit, like it did for Jin. If you whiffed, you wouldn't know if it was an EWGF or not.
I love the fact that Jin had the EWGF before either his father or grandfather.
True but from a lore aspect they probably had it since birth😂 look at kid kazuya. Paul definitely had demo man before T4 too.
Armor King 1 secretly a Mishima
Love how T5 electrics sounded like an explosion
From YIAARK TO DORIAH!
Kinda miss the YIAARK sound lol
The only issue I have with EWHF for Jin is that he goes "deh" in Tekken 8. 4-7 was the peak. Him going *DAH!* was in it's own way a reward... or fear for the opponent.
tekken fans when 2 decades old voiceclips got replaced (end of the world)
deh better
@@Left4Coochie Shh you'll stain their rose-tinted glasses with all that truth you're spitting
Hard to believe that one of Tekken's most iconic moves took so long to develop! Great video, love this kind of trivia.
Fun story: So I was mashing online and I accidentally did my first ever EWGF with Heihachi against a Steve player. I was literally so shook by the sound and Heihachi's call out of "OH YEA" that I didn't notice Steve's incoming low and I died for it. Worth it.
i remember mashing buttons and accidentally do a hellsweep
Didn't know that Heihachi's EWGF was harder in previous games. Ironically, I feel more consistent on Heihachi EWGFs than Devil Jin or Kazuya.
It has to do with his crouch dash stance, which he and Paul shared up until T6. That's why doing moves like qcf 2 is absurdly hard because you can't buffer it like as it is right now (any stance moves cannot be buffered).
I thank God that stance is gone from Heihachi now in Tag 2 and T7.
@@FahmiZFX Oh the qcf sway right?
@@kape2978 Yes.
It wasn’t „harder“ ewgf was and is a just frame for the last input f,n,d,df:2
The movement was stiffer so it was harder to wavedash.. but the input for ewgf hasn’t been changed..
Lol I had this discussion on tekken zaibatsu almost 20 years ago and we tested all the ewgf inputs with a p stick because that was such a heated debate 🤣🤣
Mine is the other way around. Kaz's EWGF is the more consistent due to the option of a PEWGF (a quick EWGF from Mist Step; f, d/f:2).
I really like those tekken history videos.
As someone who is new to Tekken, and just started with Tekken 8. I really enjoy these kinds of videos about the history of the game. More of this!😁
Awesome video! Learned something from this today, Fury!
Heihachi in Tekken Tag 1 had an electric wind god fist. His electric was the best one since it was a special mid. Jin's one was only a special mid if he pressed the tag button after.
Agreed man, I was wondering why the heihachi is passed about his EWGF
actually prefer the old kazuya voice but it makes sense that he sounds different post volcano
“Post-volcano” has got me crying; only in Tekken xD
Yes, the Tekken 8 DUN DUN DUN DUN DUN is all I needed
2:50 wait what?! I had no idea Jin in omen stance had that attack. Is that d/f+1+2?
it universal tag assault move 1+2+tag
Sick video, reminds me old school days or arcades ❤
Classic
In Tekken 2, the WGF puts everything else to shame, and I think that being able to do it immediately from the mist step is what puts Kazuya above Heihachi (who is a monster in T2) when it comes to tiers. T1 is not so simple to decide, as it has the infamous block stun attacks that guarantee follow-up damage.
King had stackable frames on a fast move and you died. He put everything to shame
We gotta bring back Kazuya's YAYE when he hits an electric
You forgot pikachu’s ewgf in pokken tournament lmao
He never sugarcoated it
The first Armor King had the EWGF... I wonder the connection...
Yes, I know old TEKKEN, they had to use some same movesets for the bosses, but hey. It's something to think if he cannonically do that, it's funny he didn't teach his brother or new King that.
Armor King 1 and Wang Jinrei are Jinpachi Mishima's close friends. They're basically Heihachi's uncles. At least according to Tekken 1 and Tekken 5 backstory lore.
@@Shiro5735 Armor King 1 was that old?....damn
Excellent. You earned a subscriber.
Should have pointed out the silly effect that an EWGF would give on counter hit in Tekken 3. Only move I can think of that's worse on counter than normal hit.
I think it threw them far away, correct?
@@TK_TheFURY Yeah, you couldn't do ANYTHING with it. They were a million miles away.
Jin's EWHF would do that in Tekken 4 and 5 but at least there you accepted you didn't get anything off it in the first place. With that EWGF effect you wondered why you even bothered since a normal launch would have been much more useful.
@@SolidSonicTH Interesting fact, I'll include it in Devil Jin's videos, thanks
That's weird in my version of tag 1 Jin's electric launches even when crouch guarding if i remember correctly
So the dorya was really started in tekken 5 😂
Tekken 4
I hope some modder brings back Jin's Dah!
What about Armor King's WGF? He still has it during Tekken 5 DR, Tekken 6 and Tekken 7
He has a similar move called dark upper
DORYA ✊🏼⚡⚡
Great video mate 👍
PS: Do you think you can make a video, where you show a complete tutorial on how to make the EWGH of Kazuya, Jin, Heihachi, Devil and Angel please. I have been wanting to learn this movement for a long time but there is no video on UA-cam.
By the way, I use a PS3 controller when I play fighting games.
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the electric sound is underwhelming in t8.They need to enhance the electric sound since its electric wind fist god
electricity sound made it much more impactful
30 years of DORYA!
What about Jin’s f * d df 1? The one introduce in t5 that isn’t the hook but the one that kinda functions like the input on 2 before did?
it's called ETU not ewgf or ewhf and I have already done a video on it
TTT Heihachi has a sm EWGF and Kazuyas WGF flipped on CH as well like Devils.
I really want that Dorya to be in future mainline installments for Tekken franchise.
From Kazuya.
Also EWGF had nerfed recovery in every installment, up and until Tekken 7 3.30 in 2020, where they made it harder to punish on whiff
I'm not gonna sugarcoat it! ➡▫⬇↘✊
Dorya!
What does Dorya mean in the context of the Tekken world?
Really late respond but Dorya is the line Kazuya say if you succesfuly input a EWGF (Electric Wind God Fist) for the meaning or translation of Dorya itself well i didnt know
It’s just a grunt.
In tekken 8, is there any point in using the mid electric? I suppose it gives chip damage on block. Are the hell sweep and omen interruptable or something? If they're both a frame trap then I don't see the point in the ewgf
it's a mixup, hellsweep and omen both can be beaten by a hopkick but ewgf connects in this case and ewgf can blocked but you have to guess between the mixup in this case.
Didnt Paul have the same thing??
Damn I miss tekken 6. Anyone up for some matches via parsec?
use rpcn
I didn't understand how Hei's one was harder, what and how could you buffer with other characters?
you get 1 less frame for input
for example you can do kazuya, devil jin and jin ewgf d,df input in 3 frames but for heihachi you get 2 frames which is exactly as the number of inputs so even down input was a just frame. for other mishimas you could delay df input by holding down input for more than 1 frame
I miss the "YURK", and "TWAGH"
Tekken 8 Really Fucked Heihachi Oh Yeah And Jin Dah Voice which was iconic Glad we can bring them back with Mods In PC
No Reina and Kuma?
Does the thumbnail say its from 1994-2023?
@@TK_TheFURY on my phone only saw 1994 and the Dorya then clicked. Will be waiting for Reina and Kuma.
Is it true that
Kazuya's d/f 2(counter)+PEWGF combo
is easier in Tekken 8?
yes, because of buffer window. there is 3-4 frame buffer window for f input
Reina and Kuma?
Oh man I wonder why AK1 had the WGF....
....but then again, it IS just an uppercut, in theory anyone can learn how to use that.
Once sounds "DAH" changed into "deh" its just kinda powerless the way jin do it his EWHF. it sounds like he just been lazy or he just been tired to do it over n' over with "DAH" 😂.
Reina?
Hey can you Teach us or make a video for ewgf Plz
it should be easy for you if you understand the basics of doing a move, how and when to press buttons
What does EWHF means?
electric wind hook fist
@@TK_TheFURY Greatest Gratitude
DORYA
Is Armor King Secretly Heihachi's Mexican Son?
Bring back HYAYYK for normal WGF!
heihachi was the easiest Character to learn EWGF
Kazuya T1 and tekken tag 1 Eyad. T4 to T8 dorya
Jin T3_tag 1 eeya. T4 to T7 dahh. 8 deh deehhya
Heihachi T1 ooa T2 ooha T3 anf TT1 oriya T4,5 and 6 ? TT and T7 torya
Just to waiste time
Ewgf in T4 was the worst.
DEH!
Armor king
Bring back yarrk!!
Kind of sad that it took until Tekken 8 which, as of this comment's time, is still an UNRELEASED game... for EWGF to actually have some nice special effects worthy of the move. Even T7's EWGF was 'meh' in the special FX department. Why it took THIS LONG to make it look good I have no idea... They could definitely have made it look good as far back as Tekken 5, easily... I mean look at all the flashy effects Jinpachi had, don't tell me they can't add an aura trail or something to the move... Yet, took THIS LONG, Tekken 8... for it to finally look good. So sad.
Not gonna lie but im starting to like "Dyehh" a lot more than "Dah"
So yeah personally for me :
Dyeh >> dah
Peace "dah" lovers 🙏🏻✌
Dorya > dah > dyeh
@@polishsausage648 doryu > dorya > dyeh > dah
@@thegreat0824 I respect your opinion Man. I'm glad you're happy, that's all I care about. Cheers!
@@polishsausage648 thanks mate 💪🏻 big respect to yours too , man i love it when people respects each other's opinion like this , cheers 🔥
I loved the new voice changes of Jin but I just can't get over the change of electric voice. Well at least you're happy and I'm glad for it.
Is it just me or does Tekken 8 look like it requires almost no skill to play?
I can't with these garbage ass takes jesus fuck.