@Multorum Unum 2 spirals colliding so close to each other that they left a tiny path for the next color to pass to the centee, for any reason once the blue generated there was no red in contact, so as it was sorrounded by green it just expanded
That was definitely the highlight of the movie for me too; the character arc of the blue bands unexpectedly producing a void in the maelstrom of red and green was a surprising twist.
This is kind of an old way (since I am not up to date on how to do it currently) but you can download software to upload movies and flash animations / games as a screensaver. so since you can do flash you can make a game with it technically. Then the desktop part I know the easiest and most up to date way of doing it. You can download (I think it is like 5 to 15 dollars) a software off of Steam powered to be easily be able to upload almost anything as a desktop backgrounds. Such as videos that can play sound to legit games you can code yourself.
Neat! I remember back in the 70's when my fellow computer geeks and I got into Life, one of the guys did a variant called Angels and Devils. This appears to be an Angels/Devils/Hamsters (whatever). Neat to watch at that frame-rate! P.S. About twenty years later I had a chance to attend a lecture by Conway in Montreal. At the end I went to the front and shook his hand, thanking him for the Game of Life. I'm guessing he gets a lot of that!
Actually no. Aliances usually for 2 sides. Wierd situations like Sekigahara emerge sometimes. But you usually find something like the Central Powers vs the Triple Antante :)! PBS Infinte series has made a video on that. Would you like me to search it for you?
the rock paper scissors theory states that when 3 things have exactly one "predator" and exactly one "prey" per entity... the 3 entities will do 3 things...1. cause an infinite loop in the finite space it has...2. look really cool...and 3. Give everyone epileptic shock -DillanCampbell~2015
Reminds me of "Powder Game" when you put a handleful of things like magma, stone and virus together. The virus always did this until something took over
Wait what how do you make a text that has a link in it? If i paste the link here, it stays the same ua-cam.com/video/PnOy1fSxBdI/v-deo.html And even if i use basic html it doesn't change hello Edit: i found another comment like this (ua-cam.com/video/XKt25ubObdU/v-deo.html first comment) Can anyone ask on reddit how to do that? Or was it just a thing from the past
The FPS is calculated from the amount of time it took to compute the frame, but that's rounded to the nearest millisecond, so the result isn't 100% accurate
Are all rotators going to extinct in finite time? Will the picture degenerate to spherical wave? Is it how quantum chaos turns to classical determinism?
if you don't waste time being a smartass you can actually see what happens.Rock-paper-scissor : Blue pixels will turn nearby green pixels to blue ; green pixels will turn nearby red pixels to green ; red pixels will turn nearby blue pixels to red.I hope that helps
> Are all rotators going to extinct in finite time? No. Instead, they will find equilibrium points around which they will rotate for system to be stable.
The link in the description has a brief explanation: For each cell, one neighboring cell is selected at random (uniform 1 in 8 chance of picking any given neighbor). The behavior that will be executed depends on the current cell being considered. In this demo, there's just 4 cell types: white space and the 3 colors. Each color has 10 different gradient levels. When I click with the mouse, I insert a cell of level 0. If a whitespace picks a colored cell, and that cell's level is < 9, the whitespace gets replaced with the current color + 1, as if the cell was producing a slightly weaker-colored offspring. That means cells grow randomly outwards until the outer "shell" of a given colored blob cannot divide anymore. The "feeding" rule follows a rock-paper-scissors principle -- red eats blue, green eats red, and blue eats green. A cell is "upgraded" towards level 0 when it eats another cell, and is "downgraded" or killed if it gets eaten. What that means is that mobility is observed when a blob of cells eats another.
Hi, I tried to recreate this, from what you've written in the blog, but with my implementation the spirals seem way less stable. You said you couldn't post the complete program, but is there a way I could take a look at the function that encodes the state transition for the cells?
Oh cool! I built something very similar when I was simulating Pokemon Type Battles. I started out with a "Fire, Water, Grass" simulation, which I also analogously called "Rock, Scissor, Paper". I then added more and more balanced types, similar to the "Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock" joke below. :), up to 26 different types. I also included convergence rates. At the very end I added the Pokemon generation 1 type simulations. github.com/kennycason/cellular-automata-pokemon-types
Kenneth Cason I know this comment is old, but that page is very interesting and I like it! I think you made a typo when explaining 'N-Type Simulations' " 'B' beats 'A', 'C' beats 'B', ... *'Z' beats 'A'* " I think the last two should be reversed right?
I believe I've seen this very concept in a pretty recent mini game collection, though I don't remember which one. It actually resolves itself into rock, paper or scissors too. 😅
Neat! It looks like there are fixed-point attractors that make the spirals; can you predict where they are and how many there will be from initial conditions?
The attractors have as center a point that is in contact with all three colours; the order determines the direction of rotation. First scenario: during the initialisation, all colours grow a bit into the white, which can create these points if they spawn close together. Second scenario: shortly after initialisation, a color is eating another and gets eaten by a third. The third eats faster relative to the eating surface of the first two (for example if it progresses at an angle) and catches up, creating a three-way point Third scenario: a spawning spiral will expand its area of influence cycle after cycle (if it doesn't peter out because of irregular rotation between the three colours). When two spirals meet at odd colours (which is likelier than not), it results in a new three-way point which then dominates its surroundings. Fourth scenario: local instability results in the breaking of a colour frontier which allows a three-way point to appear unexpectedly. The simulation is not regular, which I assume to be either because of small amounts of randomness in propagation speed or floating-point approximations. This makes the scenarii a pain to envision, and so I can't prove off the top of my head that the fourth scenarii proposed are the only ones. Deletion scenarii are easier; I'll let you make your own opinion on them!
blue takes over green, green takes over red, red takes over blue. and I imagine that they all take over white to a certain extent and then reach a limit. due to the fact the first rings don't expand indefinitely.
"Scissors cuts Paper, Paper covers Rock, Rock crushes Lizard, Lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes Scissors, Scissors decapitates Lizard, Lizard eats Paper, Paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes Rock, and as it always has, Rock crushes Scissors!" Do you accept this challenge?
1. *Individuality* beats Authoritarianism (people eventually rebel). 2. *Psycho killers* beat individuality (by claiming to be just "different" and "misunderstood"). 3. *Authoritarianism* beats psycho killers (because law and order). The cycle continues...
I built my own version of this on a much larger scale. Eventually the population fizzles out to a wide-spread bunch of 1HP automatons, killing each other in one hit and just jostling around in tiny little circles. Not sure if I implemented the rules correctly, but it's still interesting either way.
Blue wins. It's a chaotic system and as soon as a non-chaotic object appears that object will over infinite time take over the whole system. So blue will win, because it was the first such object.
@The coo - king In case anyone else is reading this thread and is as stupid as all the other commenters other than The coo - king, The coo - king is correct. This is why blue advances into green's territory, green advances into red's territory, and red advances into blue's territory as time passes.
Wow, this is really interesting, because of the similarity between this and a chemical magic trick called a BZ reaction. My only youtube video on here just happens to be a video of one of those I took about a year ago, so if you want to see what I mean, go to /watch?v=yiFJ1Dc296A and go to around the 9:00 mark. This is just my opinion here, but the similarity between the patterns in this video and the BZ reaction is just weird enough for it to not be a coincidence.
Well chemical reactions would be a form of complex adaptability. More complex than this obviously.... the more complex the reactions the more complex the outcome.... and nobody is in the driving seat its all simple rules creating it.
And now, if one of these evolved to be just a fraction of a second faster then the system would collapse and that one type of cells would be the only ones to survive :P
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you can see the spawning of the giant blue lump at 1:00. It barely escapes into the green without red tailing it for once.
pretty much how cancer works
@Multorum Unum 2 spirals colliding so close to each other that they left a tiny path for the next color to pass to the centee, for any reason once the blue generated there was no red in contact, so as it was sorrounded by green it just expanded
wild
That was definitely the highlight of the movie for me too; the character arc of the blue bands unexpectedly producing a void in the maelstrom of red and green was a surprising twist.
Thanks, this is what I was looking for
+Suwera _
Is it actually possible to code an interactive version as screen-saver ? That would be enthralling.
It is totally possible to do that. You can even code your own games and put them as a desktop background now'a'days.
LordFratz : Huh. How does that work ?
This is kind of an old way (since I am not up to date on how to do it currently) but you can download software to upload movies and flash animations / games as a screensaver. so since you can do flash you can make a game with it technically. Then the desktop part I know the easiest and most up to date way of doing it. You can download (I think it is like 5 to 15 dollars) a software off of Steam powered to be easily be able to upload almost anything as a desktop backgrounds. Such as videos that can play sound to legit games you can code yourself.
LordFratz : Interesting. Thank you !
SHAGGY THIS ISN'T WEED
This is the quadratic formula
What happened to those scooby snacks
Wow really?
💀
Much like Langton's Ant and Conway's Game of Life, it will result in some wacky shit.
Lmao true
That crazy shit it's actually studied a lot in mathematics and computer science...
It's called Cellular Automaton.
Not as much wacky shit as the others.
Neat!
I remember back in the 70's when my fellow computer geeks and I got into Life, one of the guys did a variant called Angels and Devils. This appears to be an Angels/Devils/Hamsters (whatever). Neat to watch at that frame-rate!
P.S. About twenty years later I had a chance to attend a lecture by Conway in Montreal. At the end I went to the front and shook his hand, thanking him for the Game of Life. I'm guessing he gets a lot of that!
Rock punches through paper ... nothing beats rock.
1,2,3 ROCK! (rock)
Dammit
+Len Arends Paper wraps rock.
"whoosh"
Szymon Bartosiewicz
It's a "Seinfeld" reference
Rock beats rock now lol.
OK, nerd, now what happens if you add "lizard" and "Spock" into the mix..?
Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock!
Sounds logical
This isn't gonna work if we all keep choosing "Spock".
lol
you get 5 colors of cells rather than 3
It's no use, Mr. James - it's turtles all the way down.
Fun fact, most wars are fought like this.
I was looking for this comment...
[citation needed]
Actually no. Aliances usually for 2 sides. Wierd situations like Sekigahara emerge sometimes. But you usually find something like the Central Powers vs the Triple Antante :)! PBS Infinte series has made a video on that. Would you like me to search it for you?
I too consume my enemies and make copies of myself
@@godlyvex5543 TRUTH!
Me: see the fps
- N I C E
the rock paper scissors theory states that when 3 things have exactly one "predator" and exactly one "prey" per entity... the 3 entities will do 3 things...1. cause an infinite loop in the finite space it has...2. look really cool...and 3. Give everyone epileptic shock -DillanCampbell~2015
Thank you, D-Dog
XDDD
no problem
do u know dillan dog? i thought i would never find one who knows him :P
Imagine this being the mold on your bread
Rock Paper Scissors: Infinity War
Insert power stone...
Reminds me of "Powder Game" when you put a handleful of things like magma, stone and virus together. The virus always did this until something took over
OH MY GOD YES. POWDER GAME WAS THE SHIT! I currently play Powder Toy now, and I recommend both games.
ah yes, a man of culture
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This is exactly like the BZ reaction: Target and Spiral waves in Belousov-Zhabotinsky reaction.
Wait what how do you make a text that has a link in it?
If i paste the link here, it stays the same
ua-cam.com/video/PnOy1fSxBdI/v-deo.html
And even if i use basic html it doesn't change
hello
Edit: i found another comment like this (ua-cam.com/video/XKt25ubObdU/v-deo.html first comment)
Can anyone ask on reddit how to do that? Or was it just a thing from the past
Woah, how did you do that link?
I also would like to know the secret to this sorcery
Eactly my thoughts when i saw it, I have actaully thought about replicating it in p5.
People. You have to travel back in time and make your comment ahead of time even if the links are currently invalid. I didn't check how far long.
Who else didn’t understand the title at first then realized what it meant while watching the interactions between the colors?
Legend says it's still running after 8 years
remember lsd?
I never forgot.
This video is not similar to lsd trip
This reminds me of Acid from Powder Game.
_that wasn't weed scoob_
Ah the lovely Belousov-Zhabotinsky.
Very therapeutic!
when i rub my eyes too hard
This organic, chaotic, unpredictable system seems like a good analogy for the UA-cam algorithm that brought me here in the first place.
Why are the fps always 250, 200, 150, 100, 333.33... or 166.66... ?
The FPS is calculated from the amount of time it took to compute the frame, but that's rounded to the nearest millisecond, so the result isn't 100% accurate
҉ oh yeah yeah
This is fascinating! All steady-state configurations are made out of spirals that are all in phase
0:12 - Oh look~ It's the ABS-CBN logo~
such elegance, from such simple rules
Are all rotators going to extinct in finite time?
Will the picture degenerate to spherical wave?
Is it how quantum chaos turns to classical determinism?
if you don't waste time being a smartass you can actually see what happens.Rock-paper-scissor : Blue pixels will turn nearby green pixels to blue ; green pixels will turn nearby red pixels to green ; red pixels will turn nearby blue pixels to red.I hope that helps
I know these rules. I just spoke my thoughts about automaton evolution.
> Are all rotators going to extinct in finite time?
No. Instead, they will find equilibrium points around which they will rotate for system to be stable.
There should be a 42 somewhere in there...
@Multorum Unum thanks.
**hypnotized chanting**
"Rock. Paper. Scissors. Shoot! Rock. Paper. Scissors. Shoot! Rock. Paper. Scissors. Shoot!"
Fascinating ! What is the criterion for a coloured cell to take over a blank one ?
The link in the description has a brief explanation:
For each cell, one neighboring cell is selected at random (uniform 1 in 8 chance of picking any given neighbor).
The behavior that will be executed depends on the current cell being considered. In this demo, there's just 4 cell types: white space and the 3 colors.
Each color has 10 different gradient levels. When I click with the mouse, I insert a cell of level 0. If a whitespace picks a colored cell, and that cell's level is < 9, the whitespace gets replaced with the current color + 1, as if the cell was producing a slightly weaker-colored offspring. That means cells grow randomly outwards until the outer "shell" of a given colored blob cannot divide anymore.
The "feeding" rule follows a rock-paper-scissors principle -- red eats blue, green eats red, and blue eats green. A cell is "upgraded" towards level 0 when it eats another cell, and is "downgraded" or killed if it gets eaten. What that means is that mobility is observed when a blob of cells eats another.
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It’s so cool because the same color always collided with the same color
Hi, I tried to recreate this, from what you've written in the blog, but with my implementation the spirals seem way less stable. You said you couldn't post the complete program, but is there a way I could take a look at the function that encodes the state transition for the cells?
I'd like to see a Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock version of this (i.e. with 5 colours) :D
Oh cool! I built something very similar when I was simulating Pokemon Type Battles. I started out with a "Fire, Water, Grass" simulation, which I also analogously called "Rock, Scissor, Paper". I then added more and more balanced types, similar to the "Rock, Paper, Scissors, Lizard, Spock" joke below. :), up to 26 different types. I also included convergence rates. At the very end I added the Pokemon generation 1 type simulations.
github.com/kennycason/cellular-automata-pokemon-types
Kenneth Cason I know this comment is old, but that page is very interesting and I like it! I think you made a typo when explaining 'N-Type Simulations'
" 'B' beats 'A', 'C' beats 'B', ... *'Z' beats 'A'* "
I think the last two should be reversed right?
Thanks a lot! You are correct. It should be circular. :)
*Flashback to when i chewed 5 gum
Matches the Belusov-Zhaboutinsky oscillating chemical reaction morphology.
why i keep suddenly watching old videos
This reminds me of the "Hodge Podge Machine" (cellular automata).
At first I didn't understand what was happening but towards the part wher he did the red dot and blue line I understood
If they were friends, winner is yellow
Good old rock. Nothing beats rock.
friend: dude has that tab kicked in yet
me with my eyes closed:
I believe I've seen this very concept in a pretty recent mini game collection, though I don't remember which one. It actually resolves itself into rock, paper or scissors too. 😅
Reminds me of The Pagemaster for some reason, when the kid is running from the paint in the library.
For those wondering
Thats called Belousov-Zhabotinsky Reaction Cellular Automata
why? it only looks a bit similiar
I like how a blue hole forms out of nowhere
This is /kind of/ what psychedelic visuals are like... Especially around about 1:53 ... Not the color, really, but the movement pattern
Three forces, forever locked in battle
this honestly looks a lot like how thing move around on acid. but the colours are going crazy at the same time
I used to do this in various falling sand games
Learning about cellular automata in class. No idea what it is but it looks cool lol
It seems to reach homeostasis quite quickly
This is your daily dose of Recommendation
Rock paper scissor
Cell automata
RPS War
I was going to do this but thanks for showing that it's just spiral waves.
Neat! It looks like there are fixed-point attractors that make the spirals; can you predict where they are and how many there will be from initial conditions?
The attractors have as center a point that is in contact with all three colours; the order determines the direction of rotation.
First scenario: during the initialisation, all colours grow a bit into the white, which can create these points if they spawn close together.
Second scenario: shortly after initialisation, a color is eating another and gets eaten by a third. The third eats faster relative to the eating surface of the first two (for example if it progresses at an angle) and catches up, creating a three-way point
Third scenario: a spawning spiral will expand its area of influence cycle after cycle (if it doesn't peter out because of irregular rotation between the three colours). When two spirals meet at odd colours (which is likelier than not), it results in a new three-way point which then dominates its surroundings.
Fourth scenario: local instability results in the breaking of a colour frontier which allows a three-way point to appear unexpectedly.
The simulation is not regular, which I assume to be either because of small amounts of randomness in propagation speed or floating-point approximations. This makes the scenarii a pain to envision, and so I can't prove off the top of my head that the fourth scenarii proposed are the only ones.
Deletion scenarii are easier; I'll let you make your own opinion on them!
This is inspiring. I think I'm gonna do something like this
I you squint you will see more colors.
red next to green=yellow
red+blue=purple
blue+green=Cyan
this is so pretty
My mind, it is blown o.o
wouldn't have expected a rock,paper,scissor algorythm to turn out this.
The twirly centers seem to be the source of interestingness in the animation.
blue takes over green, green takes over red, red takes over blue. and I imagine that they all take over white to a certain extent and then reach a limit. due to the fact the first rings don't expand indefinitely.
ok me trying to figure this out is giving me a headache
Red eats blue, green eats red, blue eats green. Rock, paper, scissors.
I know this was 8 years ago but i need to see more
Rock Paper Seizure
Red eats blue, blue eats green, green eats red. Put them together, and you get a never-ending loop of eating.
Invert the pattern, ma dude. Fire consumes nature which consumes water which extinguishes fire :D
Did it stabilize at the end? Does this happen to all systems like this?
you gotta appreciate the circle they drew in the beginning
Blue > Green
Green > Red
Red > Blue
So red feeds on blue, blue feeds on green and green feeds on red
"Scissors cuts Paper, Paper covers Rock, Rock crushes Lizard, Lizard poisons Spock, Spock smashes Scissors, Scissors decapitates Lizard, Lizard eats Paper, Paper disproves Spock, Spock vaporizes Rock, and as it always has, Rock crushes Scissors!"
Do you accept this challenge?
Why is my mouth watering...
Why is my mouth watering...
Why is my mouth watering...
1. *Individuality* beats Authoritarianism (people eventually rebel).
2. *Psycho killers* beat individuality (by claiming to be just "different" and "misunderstood").
3. *Authoritarianism* beats psycho killers (because law and order).
The cycle continues...
Looks like Belousov-Zhabotinsky reaction :)
it really is a dog-eat-dog world out there
ah so this is how they make the art on algebra textbooks
That was quite a good idea.
I built my own version of this on a much larger scale. Eventually the population fizzles out to a wide-spread bunch of 1HP automatons, killing each other in one hit and just jostling around in tiny little circles. Not sure if I implemented the rules correctly, but it's still interesting either way.
beautiful application of algorithm
8 years later
Red is Rock, Green is Paper, Blue is Scissors.
Of course UA-cam then recommends Sanctury Guardian from Earthbound while I'm watching this.
This reminds me of the Belousov Zhabotinsky reaction.
this is your brain on rock paper scissors
But the question is... Which beats Which?
It should be obvious
rock beats scissors. scissor beats paper. paper beats rock.
Blue wins. It's a chaotic system and as soon as a non-chaotic object appears that object will over infinite time take over the whole system. So blue will win, because it was the first such object.
@The coo - king In case anyone else is reading this thread and is as stupid as all the other commenters other than The coo - king, The coo - king is correct. This is why blue advances into green's territory, green advances into red's territory, and red advances into blue's territory as time passes.
i have no clue what is happening but i like it
Holy.Shit. This is how Belusov reactions look like. Fuck.I love you.
Oh, Blue is rock, red is paper and green is scissors.
Wow, this is really interesting, because of the similarity between this and a chemical magic trick called a BZ reaction. My only youtube video on here just happens to be a video of one of those I took about a year ago, so if you want to see what I mean, go to /watch?v=yiFJ1Dc296A and go to around the 9:00 mark. This is just my opinion here, but the similarity between the patterns in this video and the BZ reaction is just weird enough for it to not be a coincidence.
What it's like to be on drugs
For those who don't understand. Rock is blue, red is sissors, green is paper. Blue takes over red, red takes over green, green takes over blue
Uuggghhh I shouldn’t have eaten that mushroom
Well chemical reactions would be a form of complex adaptability. More complex than this obviously.... the more complex the reactions the more complex the outcome.... and nobody is in the driving seat its all simple rules creating it.
Interesting. Thanks for uploading this
Well, it only took seven years for youtube to recommend this to me.... cool video tho
Oh! I see how it's rock paper scissors! red eats blue, blue eats green, and green eats red!
so this is what acid feels like
It looks like an oscillating chemical reaction
oh god I can't feel my eyes
And now, if one of these evolved to be just a fraction of a second faster then the system would collapse and that one type of cells would be the only ones to survive :P