Andrew Sullivan survived the AIDS epidemic and then had to learn how to grieve

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  • Опубліковано 21 гру 2024

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  • @WhiteWhiskerPhotography
    @WhiteWhiskerPhotography 23 дні тому +8

    I found out in 1986 that I was HIV positive. I didn't expect and didn't want to live to be 30 but I am 67 years old now. Thank you Anderson for this interview. I am shocked about how much grief that is still locked inside me.

  • @amandab.recondwith8006
    @amandab.recondwith8006 28 днів тому +16

    I was a journalist in the early 80s in my twenties. The world was my oyster. Houston. Wealth. Friends. And one day we saw an article come over the AP wire about this strange cancer that seemed to affect only gay men in New York and San Francisco. This was a gay newspaper, and all us boys read this thing, and I remember us all looking at each other. We knew it was bad news before hardly anyone else. Every single one of those men died within two years and I'm the only survivor. Of course, I lost 90 percent of my other friends - many of them part of my "family." I was lucky because my parents accepted me totally, but I had friends whose parents simply dumped them. Plus when you got sick your job was ended and you lost your income and your insurance. It was horrifying! And the years of sitting in hospital rooms comforting them, and the years of attending funeral after funeral. I'm 70 years old now, and I've never recovered emotionally from that time. My 20s and 30s were scarred by the AIDS pandemic, and only until the 90s did the government finally kick in to help, but by that time, most of us were dead. I'll never forgive Reagan for his rejection, and I'll always hate Republicans for their condemnation of my people and me. And now they're in total control - and out of control. I can't stand it.

    • @DieFlabbergast
      @DieFlabbergast 26 днів тому

      They are not the same Republicans: it is a different society. Back then, I'm betting most Democrats were also anti-gay, in private. The world changes.

    • @user-highbaritone
      @user-highbaritone 25 днів тому +2

      I’m with you. I understand. I thought I would be gone before any of this happened. I was wrong I will be living through the fall of Democracy.
      I’m Australian and have great friends in the American south. After 2016 I was shocked and one said “never forget we got “the Puritans, and you got “the convicts”.
      Have a look at the commercials that Australia did during the AIDS crisis.
      We will hang in there. ❤️

  • @elizabethheyenga9277
    @elizabethheyenga9277 Місяць тому +13

    I lived in San Francisco and was just finishing my masters in Public Health when it hit. I was in maternal/child health and people started paying attention when it wasn't just gay men. Sat at the table with a young Fauci who was a warrior, laser focused. Kaposi's Sarcoma was such a heartbreaker, when that first one showed up and a person's soul was crushed.
    For gay men it was like war, the PTSD is real and permanent. How many 30 somethings lose hundreds of peers in a decade?

  • @Gina-dn6xm
    @Gina-dn6xm 28 днів тому +10

    My cousin died of AIDS in 1987. He was only 27 years old. We were the same age and close friends. I miss his smile and his laughter..

    • @Catmom2004
      @Catmom2004 23 дні тому +1

      I am your exact same age. I am sorry for your loss.

  • @JWCherner
    @JWCherner 26 днів тому +4

    Anderson, you interviewed me at my home 40 years ago. I wish I would have been more aware. I wish I had made a connection with you. We could have helped each other. I guess it's not too late. Our lives have much in common. I never realized it, because you were interviewing me. I never thought, even off camera, to interview you. I knew nothing about you. We are close in age, but my children are now grown. BW did a story about us for 20/20 when the kids were little. I think it was one of her favorite stories. I'd love to have coffee with you sometime. If you're up for it, just let me know.

  • @riverebec1
    @riverebec1 27 днів тому +3

    I was working for a talent agency when the article on a strange "cancer" that was infecting gay men came out in the LA Times. Nobody believed it was true. A few years later I was receiving news of the deaths of friends, colleagues, and clients on an almost daily basis. It was a very sad and dark time.

  • @robkeeleycomposer
    @robkeeleycomposer 25 днів тому +3

    This is the best interview AS has done in years. Very moving. He’s looking well. I notice though that he’s avoided, as far as I can see, the recent political events on which he’d, I’m sure have strong views. I went to the same school and university as Andrew, just a couple of years older, so I am always interested in what he is doing. I’d love to give him a big, big hug. 🐻

  • @krisxxxxw
    @krisxxxxw 27 днів тому +5

    Difficult to listen to but necessary and deeply moving ❤
    Thank you Andrew and Anderson ❤

  • @lorrainebaker1029
    @lorrainebaker1029 29 днів тому +3

    It is so cathagic to talk about one's grief...
    My daughter suffers with the same diagnosis and it can be unbearable because no one can understand the deep pain we must live with..
    Good for you for letting others hear your story..
    God bless you.❤

  • @YoshiNishio
    @YoshiNishio 28 днів тому +2

    Andrew, my friend.Your life reminds me of mine too.

  • @cathydevaney2413
    @cathydevaney2413 12 днів тому

    My family knew several people that lost their lives to AIDS. It was so heartbreaking and as a 20 something at that time it angered me how the world treated people with AIDS. No one deserved this disease.

  • @blanchefan
    @blanchefan 25 днів тому +1

    So moving, beautiful. Men must liberate themselves, as these two have, enough to feel, to grieve and to love; above all to love--starting with yourself--and then--others!

  • @chrisd.8694
    @chrisd.8694 11 днів тому

    Yesterday for some bizarre reason, I started counting people who where close to me who passed. 19, and we all who lived in SF, was so emotional. They were my bud's. WE all ran together and had fun.....Some lovers, many not. Was, now at 73 the hardest thing to live through. Thank you Andrew. Yes, it was important to be there. Yet, so hard to watch them fade to nothing.

  • @joycesloan5427
    @joycesloan5427 11 днів тому

    You are a gift, Anderson, for being willing to talk about a critical topic. American culture doesn't know how to grieve, and we have been told that it's not okay to talk about grief. We are told that we should grieve alone because it makes people uncomfortable, which is ridiculous.

  • @Bespoke2
    @Bespoke2 Місяць тому +5

    Very moving to listen to! Thank you for this! ❤

  • @EDUARDO-bj9wf
    @EDUARDO-bj9wf Місяць тому +6

    Congratulations Andrew from Brazil

  • @gymratcarpediem7761
    @gymratcarpediem7761 25 днів тому +2

    My best friend died from HIV/AIDS on Sept.9, 2024. We had been friends for 28 years. His family was Muslim. I was not permitted to go to his funeral.

    • @rickjuarez57
      @rickjuarez57 23 дні тому

      With today's medications, how was it that this individual met death from AIDS? Care to share? I thought those drugs ended the uncertainty of longevity? I used to work at an STD/HIV clinic and did community outreach. However, that was before the new medications were utilized. Thanks.

  • @DWNMC
    @DWNMC Місяць тому +1

    That was so wonderful .. thank you both.

  • @nathaliejewelcusson4607
    @nathaliejewelcusson4607 Місяць тому +5

    Unbelievably real moments on this podcast. My new addiction. I cry, I learn, I rethink so much in my own life, and about loss. Thank you so much Mr. Anderson for being so true and deep and emotional. Helps me get mine out. You are priceless! Sending love. ❤

  • @jackmorrissey4841
    @jackmorrissey4841 26 днів тому

    It’s heartbreaking to hear that some young gays don’t want to engage with this incredibly difficult yet vital part of our community’s history. Educating ourselves is essential to ensure we don’t repeat the mistakes of the past. A deeply moving listen 💔💔

  • @maureenjones5808
    @maureenjones5808 4 дні тому

    My boyfriend gotten aids the infection was streptococcus meningitis and we had to keep it a secret I couldn’t tell anyone because of the “fear” that they could get it from a cup or spoon testing took 6 months to get results it was an awful time he died 38 years old and to this day I feel “uncomfortable” talking about it because the stigma that came with it

  • @carolinemaybe
    @carolinemaybe Місяць тому +4

    Thank you Andrew. Thank you both.
    I remember. It was almost indescribable. That we had to hide it and pretend they had cancer. It was horrendous.

  • @JacobMoretti-NotABot
    @JacobMoretti-NotABot Місяць тому +4

    imagine losing half your friends. And some of these friends are essentially your family because your family disowned you. Now extend that experience to your entire circle of friends and acquaintances. And the government doesn’t give a crap that everyone around you is dying.

    • @jasonfuchs4304
      @jasonfuchs4304 Місяць тому +3

      Literally stop making stupid choices and asking the gov to cover such mistakes?? Just a normal thing all ppl do daily

    • @carolinemaybe
      @carolinemaybe Місяць тому

      @@jasonfuchs4304stupidest comment on here. How dare you.

  • @tamzidazizpial
    @tamzidazizpial Місяць тому

    39. Three stages of a fetus in maternal womb(surah39,verse6)1.embryogenic(teratogenic phase)2. After notochord formation and establishment phase (40 + few days)3.During near to internal os.

  • @ciaosatia
    @ciaosatia Місяць тому +5

    Wow. I wasn’t aware of this podcast prior to listening to this one. I’m so grateful for this conversation. First, the details about the AIDS victims was so fascinating. I was a teenager when the epidemic hit. Being a straight female, it was foreign and confusing. My aunt had many gay friends who we considered friends. I’ve watched many films and documentaries on this topic, however, none of them gave me this brief but profound insight into the frontlines of this massive cultural experience of grief-individually and collectively.
    About 7 years ago, my aunt’s dear friend died of a meth (plus extra stuff mixed in?) overdose . This absolutely baffled me as he was successful, kind, -not imaginable that he had a history of addiction. Now., After listening to that split second comment, it makes perfect sense. I
    pray for more of these AIDS-related stories.
    I’m subscribing and purchasing the book Thank you.

  • @JimiBegbaaji
    @JimiBegbaaji 28 днів тому

    Please enable clip sharing.

  • @louistully3831
    @louistully3831 Місяць тому +9

    Where did they put Liz Cheney now that they realize she's of absolutely no use to anyone?

    • @BERNARDO712
      @BERNARDO712 Місяць тому

      Next to useless people who can't stay on topic?

  • @EduardoOliveira-e8c
    @EduardoOliveira-e8c Місяць тому +3

    God bless

  • @nathaliejewelcusson4607
    @nathaliejewelcusson4607 Місяць тому +2

    Your pain and tears and emotions are HEALING US! Please never deprive yourself and also US of this blessing. You are amazingly giving.

  • @jeromegagne2829
    @jeromegagne2829 Місяць тому

    Powerful human interview

  • @DavidMiller-kf1ss
    @DavidMiller-kf1ss Місяць тому

    Okie hugs, sir!🎉

  • @12345CONWAY
    @12345CONWAY Місяць тому +2

    Andrew is a real man

    • @r.l.strange1897
      @r.l.strange1897 Місяць тому +1

      😂

    • @12345CONWAY
      @12345CONWAY Місяць тому

      @r.l.strange1897 I'm secure enough in my heterosexuality to call a gay man a real man

  • @Jen10000
    @Jen10000 Місяць тому +23

    You are an amazing gentleman and I want to thank you for such a tribute to your friends and so many who suffered through such a horrendous ordeal. Your perspective is so knowing and insightful. What an absolute tragedy the AIDS epidemic was. What a brave, courageous man you are Mr Sullivan. I salute you for speaking out and ensuring those lost are never forgotten. ❤

    • @jasonfuchs4304
      @jasonfuchs4304 Місяць тому +3

      Ummm, dude literally could have avoided this illness. Not sure why you call him a hero?

    • @Jen10000
      @Jen10000 Місяць тому +3

      ⁠really, how? No-one knew about the disease or how to prevent it. It was a brand new illness.

  • @tamzidazizpial
    @tamzidazizpial Місяць тому

    29.Dance of bee(surah Nahal 16,verse 68-69)By dancing bee communicates with one another. Recently scientists finds it and gives this communication method named as"waggle"dance.By this dance bee finds their smallest way to return home.

  • @tamzidazizpial
    @tamzidazizpial Місяць тому

    30.process of making honey from bee body(surah Nahl or bee16,verse67and 69). After collection of flower juice by bee, from gland of bee some amount of special fluid emission occur which increases density and specificy colour of flower juice and produce nectar.There are different colours of nectar we can find.

  • @randysimmons9838
    @randysimmons9838 Місяць тому +1

    Where did aids come from?

  • @journalistedisoncarter
    @journalistedisoncarter Місяць тому

    Nov 18, NPR:
    In a new ruling on Monday, the Pennsylvania Supreme Court directed all of the state's county election officials not to count certain mail-in ballots for this year's general election that arrived on time but in envelopes without the correct dates handwritten by voters

  • @tamzidazizpial
    @tamzidazizpial Місяць тому

    27.Rosette(red rose)nebula prediction (surah 55,verse37): After massive explosion of star,dystar things of universe(supernova explosion) nebula created. Some nebula become red like ointment. The situation of earth also will be red like ointment after such big explosion on the day of judgement. This nebula is able to produce star and contains a lot of stars.

  • @760HorsePower
    @760HorsePower Місяць тому +9

    That 7pm CNN chick has a major crush on Putin 😳

    • @jasonfuchs4304
      @jasonfuchs4304 Місяць тому

      Dude does have a topless only horse. Respect

    • @drewmu88
      @drewmu88 Місяць тому

      Uh oh Trump might get jealous.

  • @user-ql5yb2hs2p
    @user-ql5yb2hs2p Місяць тому

    ❤❤❤

  • @wawathunder
    @wawathunder Місяць тому +2

    This is a powerful testimony. I have always listened to Andrew and read his words. This honest conversation is one that rarely happens in this format. Grief is a big part of my life, and has been a journey over many years. Loss is deep and complicated. Thank you for your candour and dignity, Andrew and Anderson.

  • @sue1048
    @sue1048 15 днів тому

    To see these horrible comments remind ne that hell is alive and well and the minions are running their mouths.

  • @Thomas-xy4sh
    @Thomas-xy4sh 25 днів тому

    AND many of us did Andrew, who regularly rallies against interests. Hypocrite.

  • @Myopiniononly
    @Myopiniononly Місяць тому

    Anderson is all ears 👂 haha

  • @tamzidazizpial
    @tamzidazizpial Місяць тому

    33.Formation of universe (Big bang):(surah 21,ayat30) Everything of creation were one single unit and then became separated by certain massive explosion.In this verse"ratq" means joined and "fatq" means separated.

  • @KeZhang-y3u
    @KeZhang-y3u Місяць тому +2

    WTF is this ?

    • @Justin7-figu
      @Justin7-figu Місяць тому +1

      Them trying to shift the narrative. They’re throwing everything at the wall to see what sticks.

    • @KeZhang-y3u
      @KeZhang-y3u Місяць тому

      @@Justin7-figu exacly, they can do whatever they want with their but*&* but dont push it to rational citizens!! 75% of americans Vote for TRUMP including normal democrats that doesn't want their WOKE agenda !!

    • @carolinemaybe
      @carolinemaybe Місяць тому

      Did you even listen to it?

    • @SkeeDaddle-mh7yx
      @SkeeDaddle-mh7yx Місяць тому

      @@carolinemaybe listening to tears

  • @lieuphuongmai9592
    @lieuphuongmai9592 Місяць тому +1

    Anderson cooper cnn

  • @Chronoir3
    @Chronoir3 Місяць тому +1

    Is this CNN's Joe Rogan Experience? LMFAO!

    • @nobody4933
      @nobody4933 Місяць тому +1

      It's Rainbow Rogan

    • @jackmorrissey4841
      @jackmorrissey4841 26 днів тому

      Joe Rogan has never had a conversation this heartfelt and insightful

  • @DavidJ2222
    @DavidJ2222 Місяць тому +2

    Cnn😂😂😂

  • @Lekikna
    @Lekikna Місяць тому +5

    Is THIS what we are talking about on the brink of WWIII? Are you gonna delete this comment? Screenshot:)

    • @Justin7-figu
      @Justin7-figu Місяць тому +2

      UA-cam is always deleting the best comments

    • @carolinemaybe
      @carolinemaybe Місяць тому +1

      Why would they delete it? It’s insensitive and stupid but there are heaps of them. Also maybe stupid listening to the InfoIdiot.

    • @Lekikna
      @Lekikna Місяць тому +1

      @ let’s see how long mine lasts 😂

    • @Justin7-figu
      @Justin7-figu Місяць тому +2

      @@Lekikna we always come back 😂👍

    • @Lekikna
      @Lekikna Місяць тому +1

      @@Justin7-figu cuz truth always wins, my friend 🤭

  • @kinyangbinyo1382
    @kinyangbinyo1382 Місяць тому +7

    Please repent from this life.
    Jesus is the only way.

    • @leinsterfan1802
      @leinsterfan1802 Місяць тому

      Who taught you to follow god? Da white man.

    • @boysdontcry5487
      @boysdontcry5487 Місяць тому

      That’s utter bullshit. You’re likely a closet homosexual like so many ‘men of god’.

    • @AaliyahFictional
      @AaliyahFictional Місяць тому +2

      Nope😂

    • @JP-lu9ed
      @JP-lu9ed Місяць тому +1

      Jesus was not a bigot.

    • @kinyangbinyo1382
      @kinyangbinyo1382 Місяць тому +1

      @JP-lu9ed I was giving an advice.I didn't force my opinion on anyone.Thats why I used the word "Please"
      Thank you

  • @NhanThai-f3o
    @NhanThai-f3o 29 днів тому

    I care

  • @JohnDoe-fq7tc
    @JohnDoe-fq7tc Місяць тому +7

    Gay death, is real , so is hell , seek Jesus now❤

    • @edbenti5007
      @edbenti5007 Місяць тому

      You are hell.

    • @c.f.okonta8815
      @c.f.okonta8815 Місяць тому +2

      They need to give their life to Christ

    • @carolinemaybe
      @carolinemaybe Місяць тому

      You’re right up there with dumbest comment. If there’s a hell it won’t be just gay people. It will be the bigots.

    • @kingtchenka628
      @kingtchenka628 Місяць тому

      Your sky wizard isn't real

    • @CaseyKCRichards
      @CaseyKCRichards Місяць тому +1

      Jesus…. Jesus is no place to be found.. after his resurrection didnt go up in the hills and disappear? Has not been since since. Jesus the most worshipped on the planet has absolutely done nothing for humanity. Fff - off with this Jesus

  • @r.l.strange1897
    @r.l.strange1897 Місяць тому

    This is cnn now 😂

  • @Justin7-figu
    @Justin7-figu Місяць тому +2

    They really trying to copy Joe Rogan now, huh? 😂😂😂 bruh

  • @TABUK_SHAKUR
    @TABUK_SHAKUR Місяць тому +5

    Evening Reminder: Kamula / Biden Lost👍🏻

    • @edbenti5007
      @edbenti5007 Місяць тому +4

      …and so did America.

    • @candyhenry7759
      @candyhenry7759 Місяць тому +2

      You lost you just don’t know it yet 😂jokes on you!

    • @TABUK_SHAKUR
      @TABUK_SHAKUR Місяць тому

      @ 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭

    • @Justin7-figu
      @Justin7-figu Місяць тому

      This daily reminder makes me happy. Don’t be discouraged by these bots.

    • @TABUK_SHAKUR
      @TABUK_SHAKUR Місяць тому

      @ these aren’t bots! 🤖🚫 believe me kid

  • @PaigeSeiderman-zi8cj
    @PaigeSeiderman-zi8cj 10 днів тому

    Woo-hoo!!!

  • @turdians
    @turdians Місяць тому

    Is je gay?

  • @comacuma2869
    @comacuma2869 Місяць тому

    Compare ure bunch 2 congressman khana n mbs n stuff

  • @nobody4933
    @nobody4933 Місяць тому

    Rainbow Rogan 😂

  • @cnnothingburgerletsgobrand6381
    @cnnothingburgerletsgobrand6381 Місяць тому +6

    😂🤣 That's right Anderson, ur next

    • @TABUK_SHAKUR
      @TABUK_SHAKUR Місяць тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @Justin7-figu
      @Justin7-figu Місяць тому

      Bruh that’s dirty but I love it 😂😂😂

  • @bgthtr6404
    @bgthtr6404 Місяць тому +2

    What makes him so special? He's not the only survivor. I too was infected and diagnosed in 1993 and I've never had AIDS. Sullivan is one of MILLIONS of survivors.

    • @carolinemaybe
      @carolinemaybe Місяць тому +1

      You are vile. Of course he’s not special but younger people need to know what it was like back then. That’s why these conversations are so needed.

    • @Round_N_Round_Again
      @Round_N_Round_Again Місяць тому +1

      When you were diagnosed in '93, did your Doc put you on meds right away? What was your lowest ever T-Cell/CD4 count since your initial positive test?

    • @bgthtr6404
      @bgthtr6404 Місяць тому +1

      @Round_N_Round_Again Yes, I started anti virals right after my diagnosis. I take my meds religiously so that's why I'm still alive. My lowest CD4 was 510 back in 1992. When protease inhibitors hit in 1994, my CD4 went through the roof and has steadily been high. I'm a 31 survivor and I have 1500 TCells right now, a normal immune system.

    • @Round_N_Round_Again
      @Round_N_Round_Again Місяць тому

      @@bgthtr6404 I too was diagnosed in '93. I was 23 yo, healthy and my doc said I probably just recently seroconverted and didn't start me on anything. Cut to 2002 and a lab result showing 118 T-Cella I was diagnosed with AIDS and began my first regimen (Sustiva/Truvada/Viread). After that was discontinued it was Atripla, now it's Biktarvy and my viral load is undetectable.

    • @nonesuch27
      @nonesuch27 26 днів тому +2

      Why is this what you take away from this? He's not saying he's special. He just happened to live through it as a writer. He's been writing on these themes for decades.

  • @faisonhoward9191
    @faisonhoward9191 Місяць тому +5

    Gays should read Roman's chapter 1-3..for your sakes.❤

    • @edbenti5007
      @edbenti5007 Місяць тому +1

      And Christians should read Mathew 25.

    • @Rojitos
      @Rojitos Місяць тому

      ​@@edbenti5007 you should read 1 Corinthians ch 6 verse 9. Gays to to hell.

    • @carolinemaybe
      @carolinemaybe Місяць тому

      Read the rest of it. The bible says lots of things like about bacon and shrimp.

  • @Joshua_Froschauer
    @Joshua_Froschauer Місяць тому +4

    Me, too! I survived the epidemic!!!

    • @TheWanAndObi
      @TheWanAndObi Місяць тому +1

      I wasn't alive then. What did you have to do to survive?

  • @PSLLP
    @PSLLP Місяць тому

    Whoops 👌🏻😂

  • @SegsuttINArineandEVA
    @SegsuttINArineandEVA Місяць тому

    Now my friend died him because him father don't like why born why don't nkow what to do shame to be American peoples me old naa IM win mercury do you reed

  • @SegsuttINArineandEVA
    @SegsuttINArineandEVA Місяць тому

    Hey your don't know bible my son care for that himself don't take my money when him born i just leave but him not die and i cry Im with my dear son hiv now 555

  • @SegsuttINArineandEVA
    @SegsuttINArineandEVA Місяць тому

    Hey my son takes night of Americans pay me don't I m go eu think about it

  • @VirgilWatson-u8o
    @VirgilWatson-u8o Місяць тому

    See u in nome alaska