Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: Gun, Automatic, 40mm M1 (Bofors)
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- [Update: Sold for $23,000] Trying some towed artillery, with a famous history. This is another item on the auction block at Rock Island Auction Company, Sept 2018.
CONVERGENCE IS UPON US!
THE RIFT BETWEEN GUN JESUS AND TANK JESUS IS SHRINKING!
PRAISE THE BOFORS FOR THIS HOLY EVENT!
Hail Bofors AB for facilitating this great event.
I'd like to note that Tank Jesus himself prophesied this over on Gun Jesus's video.
The_Chieftain:
"I think we have discovered where Ian and my areas of responsibility overlap...."
-The 25th of August, a day that will forever live in infamy.
I think plane Jesus is Bismark from Military Aviation History
Now all we need is RIA to start auctioning aircraft...
Love the "1941" Dan Aykroyd homage
A Gun Jesus reference made by Tank Jesus himself, my life is complete.
Edward John Abaring well, they literally are talking about the same gun around the same time. They must have met at the auction house this time
Is there a plane Jesus?
Yes look up Military Aviation History.
@@joeylarose2452 what has Hickok to do with tanks, lol.
Hahaha!
Oh noes, next thing I know he's gonna shoot me down...
If Bo doesn't shoot your tail fin off first.
I thought he just needs to scare you off?
+Baron Von Grijffenbourg - We REALLY need a video by that name.
You got approximately 69cm*π of your aircraft's starboard side lift generating surface removed!!!
"You got a hole in your left wing!"
GUN JESUS AND TANK JESUS* CROSSOVER / COLLABORATION NOW!
2:40 - Tank Jesus* references Gun Jesus.
Is this proof that the prophecy will be fulfilled?
No joke though, I would LOVE Nick and Ian to get together and make a video. Or video series? ;)
*Military Vehicles & Weapons Jesus
Would be great if they could make something like that happen, yeah :)
Give it time maybe? I know they weren't around at the same time when they made these videos.
Hopefully sooner rather than later
I was literally thinking about that too, i watched the Gun Jesus Bofors video some 3 days ago :)
Yes it would be awesome, they could talk about US military equipment doctrine for example. Ian talks about small arms and Chieftain about Armoured and Mechanized equipment.
You made a slight mistake when talking about the ejection mechanism. The shells don't just get redirected, they go "Zweeeee!"
Is this a subtle Gun Jesus reference I see before me?
*CORRECT*
What? No, "Oh bugger, the gun's on fire"?
if that thing ends up on fire I'd be looking at it very silly
If that thing is on fire you're probably what's on fire.
Would have been funny. Him just sitting there "ohh no the gun is on fire" *steps off* " that was easy
Even funnier is if he spent the next minute or two trying to find the hatch to get out.
He said "w00t", what more do you want? :P
That safety "don't do this exact thing to fire this gun" brief made me think of those wine-o kits from Prohibition that gave explicit instruction on everything that you "should never do" with the ingredients within them to make wine. I love it.
He's quoting a scene from the film 1941 :P
@@Pershingtank correct
I used to work on the USS Pampanito docked in San Francisco. We would play with the 40mm, training it on the tourist helicopters that took of and landed on the adjacent pier. it's very easy to elevate and traverse and the look on folks faces as they flew past was priceless.
No home is complete without a lawn armament
can never not be too safe in times like these... everyone should have an AA emplacement in their yard xD
Having your own 40mm...Means never having to ask the neighbor to keep the noise down.
Because you'll be deaf anyways :P
Actually both the Forgotten Weapons and this video out back to back makes for some very interesting takes on the same subject and how each person approaches something an object. I honestly learned something from each on this Bofors.
Lemmy out of Motorhead had one of these in his back garden when he was living in London. He had a load of unsold records acting as sandbags around it and would sit there in his German helmet reading the paper of a morning.
As you do when you are a rockstar
As you do when you are a legend with an interest in WW2 stuff =)
Forgotten Ian
That warning plate is indeed Norwegian. It reads "Don't touch the lock when the wheels are clear of the ground"
In Norwegian service it was known as "KANON, LV 40mm L60 US M1". The L70 was also used.
Who would win in a fight Lindybeige or the Chieftain?... na it would be a crossover episode were it would be a 3h podcast.
Bofors- Company of heroes 2
Well presumably Lindybeige would go old school and turn up full of dreams of chivalry and knights of yore with a sword and his suit of armour, whereas The Chieftain would presumably just stick to the tried and tested army mantra of "keep it simple, stupid" by rolling up in his Abrams tank. :D
They did a crossover on the Churchill tank
Ummm .... I guess that depends. I want to see a video where Nick is driving a tank, while Ian is the gunner with Karl as his loader, and Loyd is the commander in the cupola with a longsword yelling drive me closer!!!
@@MrTheDridge 10/10 would watch this video.
I just saw the Forgotten Weapons episode on this same gun. (Oh and Gun Jesus, that's the funniest thing I've heard all week)
Yeah me too
It is not new. People have called Ian Gun Jesus for years.
@@PieterBreda first I've heard of it though
ua-cam.com/video/sI3x30iamHc/v-deo.html it all started here
Nope, it all started offline, on a range he was attending, long ago. He said that in one of InRange's Q'n'A's.
Lawn armaments is not wrong
My gnomes are also lawn armaments.
My dad operated the trigger and elevation of a 40mm Bofors from the bow of LSM 46 while beached on Red Beach at Iwo Jima. They were being heavily shelled at the time that they were ordered to put some rounds into a few of the Japanese positions on Mount Suribachi. Quite effective at that short range. Thanks for the great video!
My grandpa was on one of these with 103rd AAA (AW), part of 1st ID. I'm doing research on his service and the unit in general. Thank you for the knowledge.
The same "do not" operating instructions was read in the movie '1941', and the gun was in the backyard.
One of Dan Aykroyds finest roles.
Love your Dan Aykroyd impression!!
Great “1941” reference!
“Did I get him?”
“Close, Herb, close.”
You and Ian mesh nicely on these. Different interests and expertise lead to a more complete picture, even with minor differences in "take."
These were mounted on the Royal Navy 's 'ton' class mine hunters and River class fishery protection vessels as main armament. I had a lot of fun in the 1980s shooting at barrels with one.
I have head that operation speech before! Dan Aykroyd gave the exact same speech in the movie 1941! The gun in Ned Beaty's front yard even has the same sights.
"Significant emotional event." Yeah, that's one way of putting it.
Gun Jesus and Tank Apostle. Now all we need is a holy book with the writings of Browning, Kalashnikov, and Mauser.
Browning, Kalashnikov, Mauser and Lee.
@The_Chieftain nice 1941 reference :D
HOLLYWOOD!!!!!
Wonderful gun. There's film of them being manufactured by Chrysler during the war. I heard somewhere that when the Air Force decided to mount Bofors guns on AC-130 gunships they had a hard time finding guns and spare parts. Odd, considering how many were produced. They wound up salvaging guns from M42 Dusters which were being used as live fire targets on an aircraft gunnery range.
reminds me of the development of the first modern Gatling gun around the time of the Korean War. The developers borrowed and old Gatling gun from the Smithsonian, acquired correct ammo and rigged an electric motor and feed system and fired about 2000 rounds a minute.
I wonder just what they told the Smithsonian before and after said event? Oh we just wanted to try an upgrade with an electric motor. Pretty sure Mr Gatling would approve of the upgrade.
Odd, they could have just bought the L/70 version from Sweden, they are fairly cheap and spares are still produced.
Translation of plate seen at 2 min 38 sec: "Do not touch lock when wheels are clear of ground."
And - that's undoubtedly Norwegian. We had a Lot of those in LLA batteries. (Lett Luftvern Artilleri)
My father was in a U.S. WW2 antiaircraft battalion and always pronounced it BOW-fors. Their Bofors shot down 11 German planes at the Bulge, so the guns didn't just look pretty. Thanks for showing how elegantly they could move.
I'm loving the variety of equipment you've been reviewing.
Next week: Inside the Chieftain's Hatch: 1943 Army Issue Mess Kit.
Enjoyed your Dan Akroyd explanation of what not to do.
It's really amazing how much information you pack into your videos. Ian's video on this gun was already great, but somehow you managed to provide so much more.
The reference to the movie 1941 was great, all I could picture was Ned Beatty skewing the gun around.
2 of my favorite military history youtubers do separate videos on the same gun. You two need to collaborate on something!
The plate shown are Norweigian. Being a Swede, and fairly fluent in Norwegian, I can say that with upmost confidence.
What does it say on the plate?
Børk languages are still børk.
Am Norwegian, can confirm. "Do not touch lock when wheels are clear of ground."
@@Kargush yup, thats what I see.
Oh yes, "upmost". Sort of like "utmost" - but meaning something else...
Did my service in Sweden 1985, we still used the 40/36 as it’s called in Sweden, mainly for sea targets, we had the 40/48 system for the anti-aircraft.
You can change barrel with 3 men.
The powered ones are called 40/48, not the same gun.
I was so waiting for the 1941 reference... going home happy
Thanks for the 1941 movie reference. The funniest part imo.
Thanks, Chieftan... Laughed my arse off with the 1941 movie reference.
Inside the Chieftain's AA emplacement
This was one of the machines my late father operated during his service in the Army in the 50's. He was stationed domestically at Fort Bliss in Texas, and deployed internationally to England for a time. In his belongings I found one of the TM's for a gun system, including a mimeographed update/errata bulletin.
06:15 "1941" paraphrase was priceless thank you MR. Moran!
We found one of these at the Fisheries still boxed up, it went to our artillery museum. To assemble it, you have massive screws using special flat bladed screwdriver.
Go to the BB Massachusetts museum and they have racks of spare 40mm barrels stored around the outside of the 16 inch turret base- the below decks portion.
1 thing I always wondered is. This thing was up for sale in 1931. Almost everyone had it during ww2 but they only decided to add it to tank over a generation after the war. This with ap rounds that could be scary vs 80% of the tanks used in ww2 head-on. According to what I heard they had ap rounds and it could punch in around 50mm of armor which is basically everything the Germans had when invading France. Not to mention how effective distance fuse rounds would be vs infantry behind cover.
In 1999 i was trained to maintain this gun in the Aussie Navy... Sure it had hydraulic gun laying but the mechanism of the gun was exactly the same. Brilliant pice of kit and good fun to work on as a baby weapons tech. (went out of service in the RAN in the mid 2000's from memory)
Did you find an "Ian was here" on the gun, Nick?
Most likely not, but I'm sure there's a "Kilroy was here." somewhere on the gun.
Just what I was thinking.
Instead of a figure with a big nose hanging over a wall there was a figure with long locks of hair hanging over.
*Triggered*
Who's the dude at the desk in the background?
40mm Bofors are still in US inventory with the Air Force on the AC-130 gunships.
A few lines of Dan Akroyds dialogue from '1941' had me rolling.
isn't this the same gun Forgotten Weapons did a video on? (also; cheers on making these videos :) ) edit: should have watched the entire video first. my bad >
It is.
You should have done a collaboration with Ian, he talked about that a couple of days ago. You should have met and made a video together!
Ian's vid was made public a couple of days ago, it was probably made well before then. As I bet this vid was.
Nick mentioned on Twitter I think that he missed Gun Jesus by a few days
Talking to Navy veterans, that's since passed away, about their experience with the guns and literature on the Naval version of the Bofors 40mm anti-aircraft guns, after refits started replacing the old "Chicago Pianos" with the Bofors tied into the ships fire control systems they simply shot down aircraft, they were accurate and dependable.
For when you get sick of the neighbors drone flying..
Or the whole neighbourhood in general^^
Ode to 1941 (movie) ... nice
Wonder how many caught that?
@@wilsonj4705 I did, hilarious!
@@wilsonj4705 Not many.. They ask think its a reference to the "Forgotten Weapons" guy who also looked at this gun.
Trying to find the scene on youtube but so far all I can find is a video that starts immediately after the loading scene.
ua-cam.com/video/ZpGHqCqkfjE/v-deo.htmlm48s , here you go. ;)
My fathers first posting was a turret commander on a Yugoslav corvette during 1991. He still swears by this gun.
Leveling the gun is important as because the gun will dip quite quickly towards the lower end if nobody is serving the gun. Can be quite the safety hazard as the barrel will swing quite quickly under its own weight. You can also use this to your advantage for leveling as you can swing the barrel to see where it dips to ensure it is leveled correctly.
Chieftain mentioned the term gun jesus, praise the lord
The "1941" Dan Akroyd reference is dope!
Excellent quality overview of this device
My father was in the Royal artillery during 1944 in an anti aircraft battery using bofors guns they also used them in anti tank roles as they could put multi pull clips in the same spot on the tank
Picture of an Irish Army L70 used to show case ejection
I love the 1941 reference at the 6:40 mark!
God I love that 1941 movie reference!!😂😂
Bufords are still in use. AC 130 gunships have one on board. I hear them from my house at night, Elgin Air Force base Florida.
Yup. Sergeant Andersson (aka yours truly) worked on an updated version of this one, with electric servo pointing system. And yes, fine for aircraft, and an APC is just another aircraft at zero elevation. Ka-BOOM. Four shells per second. BOOM BOOM BOOM bOOM.
Liked for the comment on how to work it. That was instructional gold.
I really enjoy watching your channel and as with your description of "what not to do" with a Bofors gun a little fun is what I think makes you a very good presenter. Many thumbs up and am looking forward to many more of your videos.
The Chieftain did Dan Aykroyd's dialog in "1941".
This would be the quickest "Oh bugger, the thing's on fire!" ever.
*drops to one side, then rolls away*
7:11 In the background you can see a B-17 Flying Fortress disguised as a truck. A very rare model that was used slightly during operation Barbarossa where it failed to take off.
Man, gopher season with one of these would be craaaaazy! lol
There's one of these, in US Army design, on Fort Warren, George's Island, Boston Harbor.
I have been shooting these cannons in the early 80ts (danish airforce) They were in reserve, but we were trained to use them just before we ended our conscription. normaly we used L70.
This really is an iconic gun from WW2. The US even built motorized mounts, usually on tank chassis. One such, the M19, was built on the chassis of the M24 light tank and was not developed in time for WW2 but was used for ground fire in Korea. The M42 used on the chassis of the M41 light tank and was used for ground fire in Viet Nam. In that conflict iit was usually nicknamed "Duster". After Viet Nam the Army was in the process of discarding the Dusters when somebody realized that 1) the attack helicopter had become a real danger on the battlefield and 2) we no longer had mid-range AA weapons that would destroy or deter an attack helicopter. The remaining M42s in the National Guard received a short lease on life, but finally retired. Bottom line is that the original Bofors design stayed in US service until the early 1980s!
Its really awesome your doing these videos look forward to every video. Gj man I hope you enjoy making them as much as we enjoy watching them.
That text at 02:39 is Norwegian in deed.
And nice to hear you say Bofors, not Bofurs/Bofers as Gun Jesus Ian did..
But it’s wrong! Google it
I used to clean and be sure for their good condition and operation, of 4 separate same weapon systems ,when i served in the Greek army to an antiaircraft artillery unit ( we used them mainly against landing crafts, helicopters and ground targets ,we knew very well that this gun is not very capable against F-16 or F-4) , we had some 6- pounders too ( against landing crafts and ground targets mainly)!
I knew this gun ,like the palm of my hand ,when i was in service , but since 2004 Greek army ,send all those BOFORS and 6-POUNDERS for scrap and i believe that it was a very wise decision ,because all these guns needs a lot of crew and there are a lot of better and far more modern guns ,that need much less soldiers to operate and can easily bring far better results, that all those outdated weapons!
ANYWAY ,IT WAS A GOOD AND RELIABLE WEAPON SYSTEM ,BUT AFTER 1980s THEY BECAME TOTALLY OBSOLETE .....THEY WERE ONLY CAPABLE AGAINST LANDING CRAFTS ,SLOW MOVING PLANES AND GROUND TARGETS (ALMOST ANY TYPE OF GROUND TARGET WAS A POTENTIAL TARGET ,EXCEPT MBT TANKS).....THE MAIN PROBLEM IS THAT THEY NEED A LOT OF CREW MEMBERS AND THEY ARE NOT SELF PROPELLED ,WHICH ARE GREAT DISADVANTAGES TO A MODERN BATTLEFIELD !!
I once knew a woman who worked for Curtice in Buffalo during WW2. She told me that Curtice worked closely with the British to make sure they were all using the same measurements whether it was metric, Wentworth or the American SAE standards. The British had already reduced the number of parts in the Bofos 40mm as well as eliminating some precision metal turnings with cast pieces. American manufacturers reduced the number even further and developed some of the mass production techniques. The result: an American made part would fit a British plane or vehicle.
You and Forgotten Weapons are in the same building, you should do a video together! Great video by the way, always love your stuff, irreverent and incredibly informative.
Very interesting. My Farther used this gun during the WW2. I have many pictures of him sitting in the left hand seat.
I wonder how many different items in the US military are called "M1"
Surely at some point somebody must have mentioned that it is silly to give so many things the same name?
and in sweden m90
Shame this was not a colab with Ian, haha. Could not think of something more perfect for a colab.
Next you'll be extolling the virtues of Wild Bill Kelso.
Love the "1941" film reference! =)
I like how he says "emotional event" aka SHIT YOUR PANTS when shooting sideways.
Speaking of significant emotional events, specifically of the tanker type, you GOT to do one of these for an 8.8 cm Flak 18/36/37/41 the next time you are around one.
The reason the safe selector is in Swedish is because it's an early production Swedish gun, on an american mount.
I've got a squirrel problem in my backyard...seems like it's the perfect tool for the job
IAN ALREADY DID IT. I need to get over to Rock Island this weekend to hang out with these two.
I wouldn't recommend it. I filmed my lot about a month ago
Well then I'll head over to Rock Island to visit the museum and the tank park, ALL BY MYSELF. Not sad at all.
I came expecting a 1941 reference. I was not disappointed.
Interesting that The Chieftain manages to cover a lot of details Ian did not in the Forgotten Weapons video. Good job on Nick Moran's part.
Fun fact: The Kingston class patrol vessels still mount a 40 mm Bofors.
I think a garden feature with Knomes at each action station of the gun would be a unique back garden feature!
awesome lawn ornament review!!!! :D
Love the sneaky reference to the movie 1941.
I don't know if I'd call it 'sneaky' as much as 'blatant'...
Seeing as that movie came out in 1979, it's likely going to sneak by quite a few people.
The photograph at 12.24 showing the gun firing and spent cases ejecting forward looks like an Irish Defence Forces Bofors L70.
OMG! I 've seen this twice before, and just realized you were quoting the movie "1941"! 🤣
OMG. You just did a 1941 reference with the late great John Belushi! Am I the only viewer who got that entire plug from the movie?
The sign, funnily enough, is in Norweigan and says: "ror ikke lasen nar hjulene er klar av marken" (dont touch the locks while the wheels are of the ground)