Finnex Planted+ 24/7 HLC!

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  • Опубліковано 5 жов 2024
  • 👇Please read for more information about this setup!👍
    Finnex 24/7 Planted+ HLC
    If you would like to purchase this LED please use the link below as it will help support the channel!
    amzn.to/2Jt6MfO
    The aquarium is a Clear 10 by WaterBox Aquariums learn more in the link below!
    www.waterboxaq...
    The filter on this tank is a SunSun 602b and it has been Flawless since I bought it! I love the design on this thing! To purchase please use the link below!
    amzn.to/2XE0geV
    The substrate is USN Controsoil normal type!
    amzn.to/2LidYgO
    All plants are from buceplant.com/
    Pacific driftwood from my LFS
    Heater is a Fluval M-Series 50 watt
    amzn.to/2JtA4ef
    The Black Lava stones are also from buceplant.com/
    The gravel is from my local PetSmart called Premium Aquarium Gravel ( May Be Discontinued!? )
    MUSIC BY - MockTen Beats - • Video
    #KeepItPlanted
    #ThePlantedTank
    #Aquscaping

КОМЕНТАРІ • 138

  • @ThePlantedTankTV
    @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому +10

    All information is in the description!👍
    What up guys? Hope you are all doing good!✌

    • @randomchargingplug1616
      @randomchargingplug1616 5 років тому +2

      Lol... Oh. Didn't see description prior to commenting; hope all is well with you too!

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому

      @@randomchargingplug1616 It's cool we all do it haha.

    • @aishanicole3447
      @aishanicole3447 5 років тому

      I can’t decide between this one or the KLC😩😕
      Please help!!! Which one is better?
      I have a 36 gallon planted aquarium
      Most of my plants require medium to low light

    • @JR-kr9cb
      @JR-kr9cb 4 роки тому

      What kind of settings do you have it at

  • @shesellsfish
    @shesellsfish 5 років тому +4

    That light is so thin, it really blends in with the tank. The shimmer looks great. The only thing I don't like is no manual operation. I lose the remote to the TV regularly, but I can walk up to the TV and push buttons, lose the remote to this light and I'd be in a world of hurt, 😂
    👍💕👍

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому +2

      Haha yeah I would like to see and app for it instead but I still think it's an epic light. Thank you so much for watching! ✌🙂🙏🙏🙏

  • @violahopsalot162
    @violahopsalot162 5 років тому +2

    Good tip on cutting the outside leaves. Putting it on my minds list.

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому

      Haha glad I could help! Thank you so much for watching! ✌🙂

  • @isoaqua5825
    @isoaqua5825 5 років тому +7

    Channel will be your full time job this time next year if u continue this pace ... congrats!

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому +5

      That is my overall goal because I hate my job. hate hate hate it. lol

    • @lydkid68
      @lydkid68 5 років тому +1

      Yeeeessssss! 💓

    • @shaun4245
      @shaun4245 5 років тому +1

      @@ThePlantedTankTV you're a natural keep it up

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому

      @@shaun4245 Thank you! 🙂🙂🙂🙏🙏

    • @jayrowe6473
      @jayrowe6473 4 роки тому

      @@ThePlantedTankTV What is your job, what sort of work?

  • @Evil_Genius_888
    @Evil_Genius_888 5 років тому +2

    That tank is looking fantastic. The light has a really nice shimmer too. I put the Oase canister on my tank a couple of weeks ago and the glass pipes will be in today for my 10 gallon.

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому

      Evil Genius nice! I love my past filter! Thank you for watching ✌️🙂🌱✅

  • @monaangela4667
    @monaangela4667 5 років тому +2

    The new Led really looks awesome, an elegant piece of the tank. 😍

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому +1

      I'm really liking it! The spectrum you can make are epic! Thank you so much man! ✌🙂🙏🙏🙏

  • @fishwhisperer262
    @fishwhisperer262 5 років тому +2

    cracking scape and the shimmer from that fixture is sweeeeeet!!! great update as always bro

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому +1

      Thanks brother! I love the shimmer it gives off. Not to much not to little! Thanks for the support man! ✌🙂

  • @cichlidscape
    @cichlidscape 5 років тому +2

    Tank & light looks great mate👍🏻🌱🐟

  • @mountainhobbit1971
    @mountainhobbit1971 5 років тому +1

    I am loving everything about his whole set-up! Sweet light...love the aqua-scape...love the size of the tank too. Keep the videos coming!

  • @twunderaquatics1770
    @twunderaquatics1770 5 років тому +2

    Love this light. And the tank plus scape is awesome. Keep it going!

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому

      This scape will run for a good while! Thank you so much I appreciate it! ✌🙂

  • @madfishdiva
    @madfishdiva 5 років тому +2

    Light looks good. Love the shimmer. If you are getting the Anubias to grow like that its pretty good.

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому

      Yeah the anubias is going nuts I might have to trim some back if it keeps growing at this rate. Thank you so much! The shimmer is really nice I noticed that right away! ✌🙂🙏🙏🙏

    • @madfishdiva
      @madfishdiva 5 років тому +1

      The Planted Tank What ferts did you say you are using?

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому +1

      @@madfishdiva I use NilocG Thrive All In One. Been using it for about a year now and I love it!

  • @MarliQQLuv
    @MarliQQLuv 3 роки тому +1

    Can you please do a review of the Finnex ALC? It's like nobody does light reviews anymore.

  • @marciesocal7553
    @marciesocal7553 5 років тому +2

    Beautiful tank

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому

      Marcie SoCal thank you so much! ✌️🙂🙏🌱✅

  • @kdr1048
    @kdr1048 5 років тому +3

    Nice! Been wondering about this light. Looks awesome 👍

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому +1

      Kevin Rosenberg I’ve been very curious my self and I definitely like it a lot! Good to see you bro! ✌️🙂🙏🙏🙏

  • @richardboudreau5461
    @richardboudreau5461 5 років тому +2

    Thanks........... great video. Love your tanks.

  • @Brantov
    @Brantov 5 років тому +2

    Very interesting video and fish.

  • @tonybatten24
    @tonybatten24 5 років тому +2

    Good to see the channel is going well , I think I subscribed when you had about 20 subs haha keep it up mate

  • @OtterCreekAquatics
    @OtterCreekAquatics 5 років тому +2

    Good looking light dude!

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому

      Otter Creek Aquatics I’m really diggin it! Thanks for watching brother! ✌️🙂

  • @wendyjo6233
    @wendyjo6233 4 роки тому

    The Sunsun filter was one of my considerations. Also looking at zoomed nano 10

  • @zoejehuty
    @zoejehuty 5 років тому +2

    Hi, like the light. And the design. Could you do an update video regarding the light?

    • @zoejehuty
      @zoejehuty 5 років тому +2

      An update maybe after weeks of using.

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому

      zoejehuty yeah I don’t really have any complaints with it to be honest. Really liking it so far. I will do an update to see how my plants like it. I don’t see any issues with it growing plants though. ✌️🙂

  • @learningtofishkeep665
    @learningtofishkeep665 5 років тому +1

    Very nice bro! It’s so sleek!👌

  • @mariodouglas2897
    @mariodouglas2897 5 років тому +1

    hey, nice work! I really like your vids. Could you list your plants again? The ones on this setup? And do you think you could make another vid with suggestions of easy plants for beginners? Let's keep it planted!

  • @BorkPlays
    @BorkPlays 4 роки тому +1

    Just bought the 48" through your affiliate link, thanks for your imput!

    • @jayrowe6473
      @jayrowe6473 4 роки тому +1

      I hope you get yours. I ordered a HLC-20A and I liked it so much I bought a 48" and it never made it past Swedesboro, NJ. They offered me a refund or a replacement and I chose the replacement and the new one seems to have dropped off the face of the Earth after reaching Swedesboro. I love the light but I am beyond pissed at Amazon at this point.

    • @BorkPlays
      @BorkPlays 4 роки тому +1

      @@jayrowe6473 That sux Jay, sorry to hear about the hassle!

    • @jayrowe6473
      @jayrowe6473 4 роки тому

      @@BorkPlays It actually came the other day and I love it! I wanted to come back and update this but I couldn't find it until you responded to my comment, so thank you for that!

  • @rolicaaquatics7867
    @rolicaaquatics7867 5 років тому +2

    Tank is looking great. Jealous of your light. Hehe. The Repens looks really strong, really dense. It's obviously loving it in there. Are you tempted to put that new light on a tank with more demanding plants now though? Keep up the videos. Thanks for sharing. :)

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому

      I might be adding some low light stem plants soon when I do a trim soon! Thank you so much for watching✌🙂

  • @Kat-hs2ij
    @Kat-hs2ij 5 років тому +3

    I'm so excited when u post videos lol

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому +3

      Haha that's awesome thank you! I love you guys! ✌🙂🙏🙏🙏

  • @obca1070
    @obca1070 2 роки тому

    Beautiful gravel. Is that 'amber' river gravel?

  • @bayouboys7654
    @bayouboys7654 4 роки тому

    I totally laughed when he said if you dislike this video hit the dislike so I went down and liked it and only saw 3 dislikes like what!!! That was hilarious should be no dislikes

  • @aquablaster86
    @aquablaster86 5 років тому +1

    I think Fluval still has them beat. They are waterproof, no remote, and just as customizable. I like the stingrays but for most tanks i run the nano or 3.0

    • @aquablaster86
      @aquablaster86 5 років тому +1

      Beautiful tank!

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому +3

      Yeah but they don’t make near as many sizes. They don’t make a 20” or a 30”. A big company like fluval should be making every size there is. Thank you 🙏

  • @shivaraju-fl3bp
    @shivaraju-fl3bp 5 років тому +2

    Looks nice 👍 but it produce lot of background water waves
    Concentration only gose that 🌊 waves can be reduced that others beautiful thanks

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому +2

      shivaraju 200011 the only reason you can see the shimmer so good is because I have my tank pushed all the way up against the wall. If I pulled it away you wouldn’t see nearly as much shimmer. I love it though I think it looks great! Thank you so much for watching! ✌️🙂

  • @micropilot
    @micropilot 3 роки тому +1

    Its the shimmering efffect from the light? Nice set up. Love your tanks. Keep it up.

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  3 роки тому +1

      Yes this light does give off a little bit of shimmer. Thanks for the love! ✌🙂🙏

    • @micropilot
      @micropilot 3 роки тому

      @@ThePlantedTankTV Thanks

    • @micropilot
      @micropilot 3 роки тому

      @@ThePlantedTankTV I have a clear mini 10 should I go with the finnex or the curremt + pro.

  • @grandvitaraoverlandgt2171
    @grandvitaraoverlandgt2171 5 років тому +2

    Cool! I’m just about to buy a new light for my 29 gallon... have you ever try the Mingdak lights? I saw the 30 inch model and is about 22W but idk how good or bad they are... greetings from Guatemala

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому +1

      I can't really say since I've never had one my self or heard anyone talk about them. I'm sure it would be fine for a nice budget option though! ✌🙂

  • @handigreg
    @handigreg 4 роки тому +1

    How do you set up the light to run at 50%

  • @jeffreytrespeces4708
    @jeffreytrespeces4708 5 років тому +2

    Awesome light man. Are you dosing 1ml daily?

  • @thatboifrmtx7316
    @thatboifrmtx7316 4 роки тому +1

    I just bought one for my 10g. It would be nice if you could make an update video on the light. How well it worked for you.

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  4 роки тому +1

      I just made a video showcasing it the other day. It's a great light man!

    • @thatboifrmtx7316
      @thatboifrmtx7316 4 роки тому

      The Planted Tank thanks man . Keep up the good work!

  • @apolloblue21
    @apolloblue21 5 років тому +2

    Are the legs adjustable? Would it work on a 18 inch tank(like the lifeguard aquatic crystal 9.6gallon)? I couldn't find any adjustment info on Finnex website.

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому

      apolloblue21 yeah the legs move all the way in and out just like all of their previous models! ✌️🙂🙏🙏

  • @messerfamilychannel
    @messerfamilychannel 4 роки тому +1

    What settings/schedule are you using? I’d like to run mine at 50% as well but I still like the 24/7 schedule.

  • @dennis-qu7bs
    @dennis-qu7bs 5 років тому +2

    Hey Jay, can you tell me if this light is 110-240v, please. Thanks.

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому +1

      dennis it says on the box it’s AC110V~240V ✌️🙂

  • @spian
    @spian 2 роки тому

    Great video! Would you know if the braces/legs holding the lights are reversible?

  • @randomchargingplug1616
    @randomchargingplug1616 5 років тому +2

    What tank brand is that bro? I currently have a fluval flex 15g w/ modified lid -- Currently want a rimless that is at good price point.

  • @micropilot
    @micropilot 3 роки тому +1

    Hi when you said you are running it at 50%. Is it all the colors or just the white ones? Just got that light and same tank so I'm trying to figure out the settings you are using. Thanks.

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  3 роки тому +1

      Yep 50% on all colors! ✌🙂

    • @Khans0120
      @Khans0120 3 роки тому

      I own two HLC's and it is insane how bright these lights are and this whole time I thought Nicrew sold bright lights. I also previously read an article on the 20 inch HLC which someone used a Seneye meter on and the meter measured at least 126 par at a depth of 9.5 inches over substrate at full brightness

  • @JR-kr9cb
    @JR-kr9cb 4 роки тому

    What type of customization are you using

  • @JR-kr9cb
    @JR-kr9cb 4 роки тому

    How do you customize the light

  • @Kashew15
    @Kashew15 4 роки тому +1

    Which light would you recommend based on your experience with these two to Finnex lights so far? HLC or CC? I see that the CC is $30 more is it worth the extra money? Love your videos and the information you give! I've been watching your videos since about when you started, it's been fun seeing your channel grow!

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  4 роки тому +1

      Yeah it is crazy to see it grow. The cc is a stronger light. Has a lot more leds for the same length. I think the HTC is more for low tech tanks. They are still very bright but on deeper tanks they just wont do the job. Thank you so much!

    • @Kashew15
      @Kashew15 4 роки тому

      @@ThePlantedTankTV thanks a lot man! I really appreciate you getting back to me. Keep on making great videos and Merry Christmas!

  • @SpearingWithSlurpey
    @SpearingWithSlurpey 5 років тому +1

    which finnex size is the led light the 20" , 24"?

  • @crankedshaft43
    @crankedshaft43 5 років тому +2

    Jay, I hate to bother you but I just had a question. Could you tell me the equipment needed to set up a C02 system. I have a 15-gallon tank with a 7500k light and am attempting to grow a carpet of dwarf hairgrass. Thank you.

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому +2

      For a tank that size I highly recommend a AQUATEK CO2 Regulator Mini with Integrated Solenoid for Paintball Tank. Mine is still going strong on the first co2 tank been almost 3 months.
      so for the list you'll need some co2 proof tubing which buceplant.com/ sells and is awesome. You'll also need a check valve for co2 not air. I like the Aquario Neo diffusers they sel those on amazon. and a aqutek co2 bubble counter and finally a timer! That should be all you need. Not too expensive but not cheap either! ✌🙂🙏🙏

    • @crankedshaft43
      @crankedshaft43 5 років тому +1

      The Planted Tank how much would the entire system cost?

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому +2

      @@crankedshaft43 Let me do some math real quick! lol

    • @crankedshaft43
      @crankedshaft43 5 років тому

      The Planted Tank hahahaha appreciate it brother🤝🤜🤛❤️

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому +1

      @@crankedshaft43 so for everything it will be around 240 not including tax for all that. So like I said not expensive but not cheap either!

  • @cafesinleche1234
    @cafesinleche1234 5 років тому +3

    Is this one better than the Asta 20? Im trying to decide which one to use on my 10 gallon

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому

      CafeSinLeche I personally like this light a lot more than the asta 20 for sure.

    • @cafesinleche1234
      @cafesinleche1234 5 років тому

      @@ThePlantedTankTV Oh ok and what about led durability? I saw that both the current usa and finex lights have durability problems... Rn I just have a cheap hood light that sucks so Im looking for the best light for my money. And this one looks amazing

    • @JohnT2088
      @JohnT2088 5 років тому

      Yes this one is brighter and overall better than the asta 20 and cost more. If you just growing anything under medium demand plants getting this is meaningless unless you got money to blow through and don’t care. Or you like all those setting and features. Any cheap lights brand , like nicrew , aquaneat or beamswork can grow all low light - medium especially a 10 gallon tank cause its kinda of shallow so light penetrate down more.
      Overall if money is not a problem and you want higher demand plants with co2 i would go with :
      Fluval 3.0, finnex 24/7 any of their versions, current satellite etccc

  • @alexp7824
    @alexp7824 2 роки тому

    what size light did you get for your 10 gal ? i have a 24 inch 24/7 i got gifted and looking at getting a rimless waterbox

  • @RJ.Ev.G
    @RJ.Ev.G 4 роки тому +1

    This video was made 6 months ago. Can you tell us how well it’s doing? How’s the plant growth? Algae? Quality?

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  4 роки тому +1

      Dang it really has been 6 months already holy crap haha. Yeah it's a fantastic light man great quality didn't have any issue what so ever growing plants. No issues at all. Plus it just looks amazing.

    • @RJ.Ev.G
      @RJ.Ev.G 4 роки тому

      Right thanks for the reply. Just bought a 36”, hope it does good for me as well. Is there any recommendations that you would suggest as far as turning up or down certain levels?

    • @RJ.Ev.G
      @RJ.Ev.G 4 роки тому

      I planted some HC and S. Repens. It’s going to be mostly medium to high light plants. I also have CO2

  • @psychedtraveler6611
    @psychedtraveler6611 2 роки тому +1

    This or the hygger auto timer?

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  2 роки тому +1

      I really like this one but I’m sure they both work equally good

  • @psychedtraveler6611
    @psychedtraveler6611 2 роки тому

    I cant figure out the best rgb ratios for this for my 10 gallon. Can you recommend some rgb ratio?

  • @stormjosef
    @stormjosef 4 роки тому

    Would you recommend this light for a low tech tank over the Planted+ CRV version (seeing as how you have both)? I scooped up one of those 30 gallon rimless Aqueons before things got crazy and am thinking the HLC would look slick on it. Am going to fill it up with Java Vern, Anubias Nana, Cryptocoryne wendtii, Valisneria Spiralis, moss (Java or Xmas) and perhaps some Bolbitis. Am thinking that since all are low light plants, I should be good to go with the HLC, no? Just curious if there’s a reason I should spring for the CRV instead. Really appreciate any insight you can provide. Oh, and I’ll be running an Eheim Classic 350 canister filter, if that helps. Keep up the great work!

    • @stormjosef
      @stormjosef 4 роки тому

      Found a great resource for my question here: spec-tanks.com/finnex-planted-24-7-hlc-aquarium-light-review/

  • @Khans0120
    @Khans0120 3 роки тому

    I doubt there's a big difference but have you done a test with the Finnex planted+ 24/7 fixtures side by side, one with the 660nm deep red LED's and one model without to see a difference in plant growth rate?

  • @gatoraddison
    @gatoraddison 4 роки тому +1

    Looking to do a 90gal planted community tank. I’m looking at Coralife,Current USA or Finnex. Thoughts? Thanks

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  4 роки тому

      Your best option budget wise would be finnex. ✌🙂

  • @P3tonka
    @P3tonka 5 років тому

    i like the features of the light, and the price. i dont know if i like how much it shimmers though haha. does it shimmer more than other led lighting or is it just the room lighting accentuating the shimmer?

    • @rifraf6135
      @rifraf6135 4 роки тому

      This one shows so much of the shimmering because it is right up against the wall.

  • @themichaelmartinify
    @themichaelmartinify 3 роки тому

    So if you were going to use the 24/7 mode, when one turn their co2 on and off??

  • @Knight636
    @Knight636 5 років тому

    How does it compare to the current usa lights you normally use?

  • @theadventuresofprince3875
    @theadventuresofprince3875 4 роки тому

    Can you tell me which aquarium tank this is?

  • @zheartsbanton4130
    @zheartsbanton4130 4 роки тому

    Will this grow pearlweed in a 20 gallon tall?

  • @SpearingWithSlurpey
    @SpearingWithSlurpey 5 років тому

    Does your sun sun canister filter vibrate with the intensity of a california earthquake?

  • @christianflores3945
    @christianflores3945 4 роки тому

    How did you set it to 50 percent? Ijust got the light but at max mode it’s way too strong on my 20 long.

  • @-8_8-
    @-8_8- 5 років тому +1

    Tank I'm doing will be similar look except for size and driftwood, and maybe some red plants. Looking at this fixture for 24" deep tank though. Anyone using it at this depth for high light plants?

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому +1

      I would get two man. ✌🙂

    • @-8_8-
      @-8_8- 5 років тому

      @@ThePlantedTankTV they make them in the right length. I'm just not sure about penetration. All my vivarium stuff has lenses to push the light to the bottom. It doesn't look like aquarium lighting comes that way.

    • @-8_8-
      @-8_8- 5 років тому

      @@ThePlantedTankTV it is an interesting thought. Likely it won't be my entire tank that needs high light. I could possibly buy a 24-inch in the future for just that one side of the tank since it's a glass hood.

  • @bettabegoodjr2104
    @bettabegoodjr2104 5 років тому

    What does hlc mean??

  • @apenguingames4305
    @apenguingames4305 4 роки тому

    Would anyone recommend this for a 29 gallon there around 18 inches deep if I recall correctly

  • @edwardlewandowski1213
    @edwardlewandowski1213 4 роки тому

    Bloods in the front crips in the back i cn dig it 😂

  • @Bluegillandbass
    @Bluegillandbass 5 років тому +3

    You are a very good aquascaper I just subscribed and I’m excited for your upcoming videos I also have a UA-cam channel come check it out if you’re interested

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  5 років тому +1

      Thanks! I appreciate it man! ✌🙂🙏🙏🙏

  • @medusasworldofstone
    @medusasworldofstone 4 роки тому

    Measuring the light by wattage is so last year

    • @ThePlantedTankTV
      @ThePlantedTankTV  4 роки тому

      It is still one of the best methods to use if you are a beginner. Obviously it isn't the most accurate way. Anyone with common since know that. It's just a good place to start and work around from there.

    • @medusasworldofstone
      @medusasworldofstone 4 роки тому

      @@ThePlantedTankTV wattage is used to specify the rate at which electrical energy is dissipated. Basically how much energy is being used to power the light. Youre statement may apply when using florescent bulbs or the tube lighting.. wattage per gl is an old way of offering a beginner the information they need and isn't very accurate. When using l.e.d. a better advice would be to focus on par. Wouldnt you agree with all your "common sense" that par is a more accurate form of measurement when dealing with led? Ijs