Pilots that lose their shirts
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- Опубліковано 4 лис 2023
- Caroline Roper, Ella Hubber and Tom Lum from the podcast 'Let's Learn Everything!' face a question about cut-up clothing.
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HOST: Tom Scott.
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RECORDED AT: The Podcast Studios, Dublin.
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As a former student pilot I immediately knew the answer. Didn't happen to me though, someone threw a bucket of ice water at me instead.
I knew it too, because I had my shirt cut off after my solo flight. It's still pinned up on my wall at home!
Shirts with tails are rarer these days.
I knew it from watching a UA-cam person (Sam Chui)
Only I did not knew the why until this explanation.
same for me (knew the answer right away, PPL)
as a random teenager who, despite being vaguely interested in everything whatsoever, has not touched the subject of early aviation, i did not know the answer immediately.
I feel like it's also a mark of honor to say something so off that you get Tom to say "crikey".
I thought it was going to be along the lines of:
'How much does it cost to learn to fly?'
'Everything you have and the shirt off your back.'
Student pilot here- that's pretty accurate
At some point I though it would be cool to have a heli pilot licence. Let me tell you that dream died after a single google search.
2:48 whoever wrote "both toms" in the subs is a comedy genius.
Tom Scott has always had amazingly well done subtitles, loved them before I was hearing impaired and love them even more now!
@@JMaxwellEI think he uses caption+, they sell themselves on the human touch
@@AltonV do you like promise to give them a hug and they make subtitles for you
@@the_frog_army I have an uncle that paid for hugs… Never understood why he did it or how a hug took 30 minutes but he always seemed to be happy after… I think the lady squeezed too tight sometimes because he’d be passed out on grandma’s couch within a few minutes, must’ve been some hug!
both toms and a cymbal
badmm tss
Lateral suddenly becomes a comedy show with these panelists! Love your comedic banter, Ella, Caroline, and BOTH TOMS. 😂
it was always a comedy show from the start; go back to the second episode to have Matt Parker in it if you don’t believe me
My flight school has a wall display of these.
I’d imagine it looks pretty terrifying with no context, but I’m about three months away from having my own favorite shirt join the wall, and I’m looking forward to it.
Haha I was watching this kind of half asleep and read Caroline as Carolina and Roper as Reaper, and my mind took waaaay longer than I want to admit to recognise that there wasn’t a person named Carolina Reaper on the show…😂
Well that's a spicy slip up
@@Jono997 Haha nice…😎
My favourite lineup of the show! Love where their brains are going in this one 😂
Ella bringing new meaning to a "Dead stick landing"
Ayyy that's my question! It made my day hearing it on the show! ❤
Don't recall this happening to my son after he soloed.
There are various traditions. This is one of them and seems to happen mainly in the USA.
Hey, this is something I actually knew about!
What a swerve at the end! I thought I'd figured this out right away - I knew the phrase "getting one's wings" as a metaphor for flying your first solo, so figured the shirt-cutting was symbolically making room for their new wings, taking the metaphor literally. When Tom confirmed it was indeed commemorating their first solo, I was sure I'd nailed it!
Same
Same! I still like that, it's more poetic.
And 70 years later, the pilot on my Bern-Lugano flight left the plane with a ripped shirt because of a VERY stressful flight. I don't know what happened to his jacket and tie, but the stylish gentleman who had welcomed us on board had transformed in a sweaty, disheveled, well, gentleman (he had an umbrella and accompanied every single one of us to the terminal under a torrential rain, with a big smile). Luckily, it wasn't his first solo flight - my bones would be still scattered somewhere on the Swiss Alps o_O
I'm a huge nerd for early aviation, to me it's the most fascinating thing ever, and I didn't know that at all. Now I need to find out more^^ Thanks :)
It amused me so much that ratatouille was mentioned later in the episode when this is basically Pilots being Remyd
Love these highlights ❤
for a moment, I thought it was something along "hey, we got your back"
Aha! That happened when my Dad soloed maaany years ago and they hung the shirt back on the wall in the flight school, and I remember being mad because it was my favorite shirt of his. lol I knew it was a tradition, but I never knew where it came from. Thank you!!
Always love this pair!
I heard this question and all I could think of was Flying the Flag by Scooch. “Would you like something to suck on for landing, Sir?” ✈️🍬😂
Wow, it's been a while since I heard that song title, I may have to re-listen to that one
My favourite guests! Yay! They’re hilarious😂😂
Like some of these, I have no idea where I heard it, but knew it straight away
Cool! Knew the tradition, didn't know the reason!
In my country, the baptism of your first solo flight (at least for gliders and light planes) was done by gathering a big pile of weeds with thorns from the field and be thrown on it. The military does it with a bathtub of cold water.
I just learned this last week. :)
The way I heard this, it was the small loop on the back of the shirt just below the collar which was cut off.
Genuine - wow!
This happened to me, very amazing experience
So make sure it's a cheap shirt then
I think compared to the cost of getting a flight license in most places, even a Versace shirt would be a drop in the ocean.
i knew when i heard the question
Aaaw I was kind of disappointed with the reason.. I was sure it was because they were getting their wings. Both the patch and pin, and metaphorically.
So is it just the shirt tails? Or the whole back?
I assumed that after their first solo flight they take it as a way of saying "we have your back".
One of the first questions I immediately knew the answer to! Thanks TikTok
I hoped it was a symbol like "your wings are free now, you can spread them wide"
To a degree you're not wrong, you just found a poetic way to put it
I thought it will be something about their wings fully ripping through their shirts, now when they've learned to fly
As a private pilot myslef, I was also denied that experience. I solo'd and it was lessons as usual after that..
Small airport and flight school, bu I've always felt like that was a missing piece ofmy experience..
Oh well....
I thought it could symbolise openings for wings of something like that
Like they say "you learn something new every day". 🙂
2:19 does that reference to "born in tshirt" phraseologism?
Is this linked to the saying "flying by your shirt tails"?
i learned this last week after i saw something on instagram about it, didn't think that knowledge would come in handy so soon, lmao
That is really cool, I knew it was for the first solo flight but didn't know the origin
Ella cracked it!
Adopt the Ella strategy, which is say something extremely logical and end that with an absurd statement.. yes, I love that!
Anyone hear the Good Eats theme in the Lateral theme? Not identical, just a similar sound.
I hadd in mind Heart Attack Victim and the copilot landed when an EMT tore off the shit to access the heart.
I'm a retired pilot and on my solo day (over 50 years ago) the tradition HAD been to cut the solo pilot's necktie and pin it to a trophy wall - only in my case (in the very early 1970s) neckties had gone the way of fedoras; solidly out of fashion.
Tom Lum: "I'm sorry Ms. Jackson, I am four eels. 'Didn't mean to make your daughter cry, I'm just some fish and not a guy..."
Ella deserves a special prize for those punchlines
That's not the only tradition! The most widely spread is hosing the pilot down with water as they leave the plane after the first solo. That one is universal!
The hosing-down is repeated after the LAST flight--but then of the whole plane...
At ~4:15 I started chanting "you get wings! You get wings!". Like that it was symbolic that after their first flight they cut holes for the wings.
I was wrong, but I think that'd be cool symbolism 🤷
A•This one I happened to know; it’s an old tradition.
my first thougt is some kind of medical incident, but that would make more sense if it was the front of the shirt
Oh I know this one.
Just goes to show, the "bad ideas" often have bits of the correct answer!
I watch too much YT, got this from the beginning.
Is there a way to access the podcasts in video format as opposed to pure audio?
I somehow knew this, wonder where I heard it =S
I figured it was "so they could spread their newly earned wings"
I was thinking along the lines of "to make room for the wings they just got".
I would think it’s when you get your first flight when your in control.
Is this where the term Backup comes from?
I thought the pilot was having a severe allergic reaction
They got their own back
I know the first one. Their shirt is cut off as a tradition. The date of the pilot's first solo is written on the fabric.
4:18 you have to wonder what was happening here.
You're telling me that before radio flight instructors Ratatouilled the trainees by pulling on their shirt.
Half a minute in, is this about that guy who got sucked out? And held by his shirt, belt?
Nope! I wonder if this is related to "flying by the seat of their pants"?
my first thought was it was a stunt pilot and the shirt was on fire
Can we get the full podcast in video?? ❤
We are working on it. Not imminent, but hopefully soon-ish.
As a student pilot I knew this one immediately. Although, there is a variation of this tradition, that in more familiar with. Here in North America, it’s more common for the instructor to throw a bucket of water over the student upon returning.
You're a bit off on your timing, Tom. By the 30s & 40s, enclosed cockpits and radios were both fairly common.
Flying by the seat of their pants?
Initial thoughts: the question said "safe landing" not "safe flight", and "his shirt" not "the one he's wearing", so a lot here is fair game. From lesser to higher answer confidence:
Perhaps the pilot needed to go down into "mechanical" to repair/verify something, and his shirt's back got messed up, making it preferable to get rid of it while still looking dressed and professional (and I doubt it unless it was so long ago).
It could refer to that incident where a pilot got almost sucked out the flight deck through the window, damaging his shirt in the process. And/or to treat his injuries while also keeping the uniform (mostly) intact (like in the previous idea), the back of the shirt was cut off.
Could have been a medical emergency on board where clean cloth/bandage was needed, and a pilot had a freshly pressed backup shirt in his luggage. The shirt being white is also a big plus as its easy to see colours seeping in (e.g. blood absorbed by the bandage). Could have been to wrap someone while laying on his back/stomach, like to aid in moving the person (homemade stretcher with sleeve handles), cover nudity for some privacy yet allow full access by easy removal, used to detect leaks of "our precious bodily fluids", provide some warmth, ... even making a field sling/brace...
Results: I was so far out. Still, my very first idea was about a retirement tradition, but I deleted it because I know, nowadays, it's rather having the pilot do his last taxi going under the water cannons salute. My instincts were far closer than my logic.
this episode was unhinged and I loved every second of it
i know this one
Now we just need to know where the phrase flying by the seat of your pants comes from
Early pilots found that if you flew with a cramp in your backside you were FAR more likely to suffer from airsickness - this was proven by Dr Hubert Strughold much later in the 60's when he filled his arse with anaesthetic to try and disprove the saying, but ended up being hopelessly airsick. This is only part of the explanation for "Flying by the seat of your pants", but it's an important one!😅
I tought it was a tie instead of a shirt.
In our helicopter training we had a tie cutting ceremony after solo-ing (tho we were never truly 'solo', just 2 students in the cockpit without an instructor). In the 2 previous fixed wing planes where we solo'd i dont recall cutting anything but we got certificates. I'm glad we didnt get ice-bucketed as other ppl are writing, ha
Just started watching this and I think I know the answer due to a Sam Chui video. I'm not added the answer here!
2:20
Is a space pilot what is also known as an astronaut?
It's a strict subset of astronauts, surely? (Using it in the most generic sense to include cosmonauts, etc)
I assumed it was this. True story. Fighter pilot wearing a "pressurised flight suit" for high G-Force maneuvers (as in, sqeezes the blood in your legs so it stays in your chest). Pilot has diarrhea. Soils himself. Pressurised suit "sqeezes" his legs, poopie goes everywhere inside his suit. Pilot then lands on an aircraft carrier, runs to the end of the flight deck, rips off his flight suit and throws it into the sea.
Or they get a bucket of water thrown on them or they get thrown in a lake
A student pilot takes their first solo flight after only 30 hours. Is that when this happened?
I don't think this applies to glider pilots, or maybe I missed out?
I'm curious why the question has "a pilot" and not "the pilot".
and also he was a man made of eels
So you're saying in the old days, instructors were technically Ratatouilling students to teach them how to fly? Sick.
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mid video guess: wait, isn't that what they do when a student pilot goes on their first solo? cut the back of it off?
after it became clear it was for the first solo flight I thought it was "so that someone always has your back"
The girl in the dungarees is so adorable! I'd love to see more of her, anyone know if she has a channel?
My guess: the pilot with the shirt being cut off wasn't the pilot flying the plane. The plane was a medical rescue plane (of some sort), and after it landed the passenger in need of medical assistance (a pilot, in this specific case) has their shirt cut off, as is typical for medical emergencies.