@@jasoncorreia1608 She snacks? Does she really eat other champions? 🧟 Maybe you meant that she smacks... (Where can I get a Will Smith vs. Chris Rock emoji?) 🤬😵🤕
I can confirm Geomancer still reflects damage with block damage teams. I also tested Lord Shazar a LOT, and while he does a ton of damage, my frozen banshee does more damage by about 4 mil for me. Also I have champs in a toxic set so her sensitivity helps a lot too
Use my +4 Turvold in a non unkillable team. I turn off his A2 to prevent him from burning up his buffs. Run him with Krisk, Lydia, Cardiel, and Brogni. Team does 150mil on UNM and Turvold smacks for just over 1.3 mil on his A3. Great info on this video scratch.
@@sidneydamsma I run mine in Lethal and cruel sets. If reflex price enough to use the A3 more than that might be better. I would personally go with savage. However I got sick of trying to speed tune, so I just run it with beastly champs and last about 50-55 turns on UNM. NM is way easier as I do about 250 mil.
What about Fenax? Doesnt he hit just as good as Lord Shazar does? I think Shazar is only better when your pass 8 debuffs. I have both and was thibking of replacing farakin the fat with one and dont know who to choose.
I've been using Zavia since forever! Don't know if i should swap her for a Frozen banshee.. my zavia has Brimstone and my FB has 3 star phantom touch... but Zavia is also in 90% of my dungeon teams so do i swap to FB and allow my Zavia other builds?
Where does varl the destroyer sit damage wise? (DT hard champ). I got him, Jintoro, and Turvold within a few weeks of each other and built Turvold for my mythfu comp so I could avoid multiple affinity issues.
Killable king over here. Just got to 2key NM today. Jintoro is on the bench! The optimizer reports that I can do 15-20mil on UNM per key with FB, Venomage, Skullcrusher, Hotatsu, and Doompriest. Oh god the silver I have spent
Gravechill does the within 500k damage as my fb in cb (both doing around 14.5-15 mil) Also from what I've seen, Brakus damage is insane in Unkillable (not block damage) teams.
such a needed video... Im doing 68M everyday (helicath, valkyrie, ninja, doompriest and dark kael) doompriest on toxic hitting 10M dark kael hitting like 12-13M that dude is a lazy bum even with 240cdamage. Same team with geo even worse so Ill build Anax to see whats good with him
I'm curious about combos and synergies. I run a 2-DPS block damage team (interestingly enough, Helicath often comes up as the top damage dealer), so I was thinking of experimenting with Occult Brawler and Venomage or Urticata and Fayne. I wonder what OP duos or trios there are for CB.
I run a block damage team with Heli, doompriest and skullcrusher and narma and fayne or narma and frozen banshee (on magic) FB and narma get 21+ million a run.
@@ryanchampney2637 Dude, I've been wondering about Narma. Some people swear by her, others say she's unreliable and needs a buff. I have Narma sitting in the vault just because of books. How do you have her set up?
@@Murchlives I turn her a2 off and leave the rest on as normal. If you can pair her with someone like FB shes actually really good. Poison sens is always on and FB just keeps the bar full of poisons. Narma hit for a decent amount if you can get crit damage gloves on her with 100% crit rate. Her only downside are the books. She takes alot of them but kinda needs to be booked to really shine. Her a1 extend really relies on being booked.
@@Murchlives Also. Have her ahead of fb in the turn order and shell lay on the poison sens. As long as it's up FB will only do her a1. Getting the most out of her
Geo's a2 hits quite hard, a1 not so much, I didn't build him in crazy damage gear, just decent atk and full crit rate, he can hit , but nothing can compare with his passive using him with Roschard and 3 PK against iron twins, so his passive works, but deals less damage, still, 2 min on stage 15 is not a bad result I use Dark Kael with Vizier and Martyr, they can 1 key unm with slow double Maneaters
@@afrimlargimi16382 I would have in the early days but having watched how the pros have so many different builds of the same champions I thought better of it
I'm considering building Anax, And replace Fahrakin, but I'm unsure. sometimes I 1key sometimes very close, with the fatman. but dunno if its worth switching to Anax
I thought I was the only one who thought that about geo reflect damage on a block damage team. There is no real information on it at all. It's like you see a bunch of zeros and one line of dps when boss hits while hp burn is up instead of the lines of dps numbers that pop up on non block damage. Not saying he don't still put up good numbers but they are better in non block damage teams
I run Jintoro, vizier, fatman, helicath, Brogni. It 1 keys all affinities on ultra. Jintoro doesn't do as much as I expected but his aura bumps all there damage and makes up for it.
@Ralph Bitar sorry but I stopped playing weeks ago now and can't remember them off the top of my head. It is very finicky though. The only champ in speed sets was helicath, to avoid any random speed problems. I had attempted to try other champs and couldn't make them work either. It's definitely doable though.
Yo I run hellicath with dark kael and farihkan with skull crusher and doom preist in a toxic set and my debuff bar stays full 90% of the time too where he doesn't get too land his decrease atk sometimes lol which isn't good for my boy hellicath
Geo, works quite well in a block damage comp (only the reflected damage doesn't proc, which is not that much, however passive GS skill can and do proc quite often especially against affinity cb). I use Geo in a fast Helicath block damage comp for magic UNM boss and he out-damages Jintoro in the same comp by cool 4-5 million (23-26M vs 19-22M). His a2 hits hard if built for damage.
Plarium should have a tournament where the top 5 on the global leader board would get a copy of Ninja. That would make them some crazy money with the whales krakens going after the copy of Ninja.
Recently pulled jintoro.. thinking of swapping out fu shan. Would be duchess, skullcrusher, aox, frozen banshee, jintoro.. I feel like I'm missing something I need haha
I've used Aox with really decent gear, fully maxed-out and I'd say - just use anyone else, unless you're not running an unkillable team. Unless you can get a 2-turn block damage or unkillable champ, you're doing well. But I'd replace Aox first once you get something better.
@@jasonkane7231 my team is not unkillable. Aox is one ofhe only options I have for decrease attack.. his heals and poisons are great and he extends debuffs like a mf. I feel kind of stuck right now though. Like I said my team is duchess, aox, fu shan, skullcrusher, and I've been using jintoro instead of frozen banshee. Doing a little better than with fb, but I'm a little underwhelmed. My magic great hall needs work bad apparently. I just recently pulled and finished masteries on tyrant ixlimor... I need to fit him in there somehow too hahah I'd appreciate any damn advice at all
I've built a full damage Geomancer. It's really not much different that a high hp Geo for big reflects tbh....6 of 1, half a dozen of the other. I went with high hp for durability.
@@wraithofkah5487 dude I was happy when I got dark kael and he was an upgrade on my geo but I have him 100 cchance 240cdamage plenty accuracy and he does 12-13 against doompriest toxic 10M
When you did the bateater comparison, Anax and Ninja teams were pretty much tied with Dracomorph a bit ahead and Jintoro teams at the top. Most of our clan goes with Jintoro over Ninja in clan boss. I think CCs really need to calm down a bit on hyping up Ninja through the moon. His teams are up there with the other top champs but not ahead of them. Unless someone is being dumb and looking at individual damage when the only thing that matters is the team score. Because there are a ton of other options about as good as him, it makes far more sense to use him elsewhere. Your options for a lot of doom tower bosses are either Drexthar teams or Ninja teams. Very similar concept but Ninja teams need to win fast so I find Drexthar teams are easier to build. Depends on the account though. He's also great in hydra. No need to stress people out in an area (clan boss) where he's at a similar level as a lot of other champs.
@@SkratchPlays hes talking the WHOLE TEAM, while ninja did more damage individually in that video, the jintoro team did more which is key, jintoro brings the weaken that benefits the rest of the team.
@@safiskusai Ah gotcha, that will go in the best clan boss team dmg, not/ champion. A team with Belanor will do more than any of them in the bateater but his own damage is rubbish compared to others.
@@SkratchPlays Team damage is literally the only thing that matters in clan boss. I mentioned it on your fantastic video where you showed that Ninja didn't have top team damage but then you put up that misleading graphic with him at the top that it was misrepresenting your results. There are so many people who try to force ninja teams and screw it up because content creators do not accurately describe what matters: the team damage. You actually had Belanor in that comparison and his team didn't do more but that is partially because you didn't build around his aura.
PS: Damn I forgot to mention my chick Acrizia. She is 100% a contender for top 5!
Have an amazing Weekend beautiful people
You too Skratch
What about the rest of us???!!??? ;-)
@shuyge Haha don't be modest!
I was going to bring her up, I just summoned her and she absolutely snacks
@@jasoncorreia1608 She snacks? Does she really eat other champions? 🧟
Maybe you meant that she smacks... (Where can I get a Will Smith vs. Chris Rock emoji?) 🤬😵🤕
I can confirm Geomancer still reflects damage with block damage teams.
I also tested Lord Shazar a LOT, and while he does a ton of damage, my frozen banshee does more damage by about 4 mil for me.
Also I have champs in a toxic set so her sensitivity helps a lot too
Use my +4 Turvold in a non unkillable team. I turn off his A2 to prevent him from burning up his buffs. Run him with Krisk, Lydia, Cardiel, and Brogni. Team does 150mil on UNM and Turvold smacks for just over 1.3 mil on his A3.
Great info on this video scratch.
U think turvold is better in high end savage or reflex gear?
@@sidneydamsma I run mine in Lethal and cruel sets. If reflex price enough to use the A3 more than that might be better. I would personally go with savage.
However I got sick of trying to speed tune, so I just run it with beastly champs and last about 50-55 turns on UNM.
NM is way easier as I do about 250 mil.
Tell me you're a whale, without actually saying you're a whale
What about Fenax? Doesnt he hit just as good as Lord Shazar does? I think Shazar is only better when your pass 8 debuffs. I have both and was thibking of replacing farakin the fat with one and dont know who to choose.
Fenax will do around 150k/ hit, Shazar does like 200 k and he has 3x hits but you need the debuffs
I've been using Zavia since forever! Don't know if i should swap her for a Frozen banshee.. my zavia has Brimstone and my FB has 3 star phantom touch... but Zavia is also in 90% of my dungeon teams so do i swap to FB and allow my Zavia other builds?
what about saito. I pulled him last week and i am thinking of put him in my clan boss team
Where does varl the destroyer sit damage wise? (DT hard champ). I got him, Jintoro, and Turvold within a few weeks of each other and built Turvold for my mythfu comp so I could avoid multiple affinity issues.
Killable king over here. Just got to 2key NM today. Jintoro is on the bench! The optimizer reports that I can do 15-20mil on UNM per key with FB, Venomage, Skullcrusher, Hotatsu, and Doompriest. Oh god the silver I have spent
Gravechill does the within 500k damage as my fb in cb (both doing around 14.5-15 mil)
Also from what I've seen, Brakus damage is insane in Unkillable (not block damage) teams.
such a needed video... Im doing 68M everyday (helicath, valkyrie, ninja, doompriest and dark kael) doompriest on toxic hitting 10M dark kael hitting like 12-13M that dude is a lazy bum even with 240cdamage. Same team with geo even worse so Ill build Anax to see whats good with him
I'm curious about combos and synergies. I run a 2-DPS block damage team (interestingly enough, Helicath often comes up as the top damage dealer), so I was thinking of experimenting with Occult Brawler and Venomage or Urticata and Fayne. I wonder what OP duos or trios there are for CB.
I run a block damage team with Heli, doompriest and skullcrusher and narma and fayne or narma and frozen banshee (on magic) FB and narma get 21+ million a run.
@@ryanchampney2637 Dude, I've been wondering about Narma. Some people swear by her, others say she's unreliable and needs a buff. I have Narma sitting in the vault just because of books. How do you have her set up?
@@Murchlives I turn her a2 off and leave the rest on as normal. If you can pair her with someone like FB shes actually really good. Poison sens is always on and FB just keeps the bar full of poisons. Narma hit for a decent amount if you can get crit damage gloves on her with 100% crit rate. Her only downside are the books. She takes alot of them but kinda needs to be booked to really shine. Her a1 extend really relies on being booked.
@@Murchlives Also. Have her ahead of fb in the turn order and shell lay on the poison sens. As long as it's up FB will only do her a1. Getting the most out of her
@@ryanchampney2637 Thanks. I'll try her out.
Geo's a2 hits quite hard, a1 not so much, I didn't build him in crazy damage gear, just decent atk and full crit rate, he can hit , but nothing can compare with his passive
using him with Roschard and 3 PK against iron twins, so his passive works, but deals less damage, still, 2 min on stage 15 is not a bad result
I use Dark Kael with Vizier and Martyr, they can 1 key unm with slow double Maneaters
Forgot Acrizia, the best enemy max hp dps
Waste using her on CB, she's better on Hydra.
Would you swap Fayne for Anax? or try to have both in the team? (Running a DEF team currently in LS gear)
Anax has much higher multiplier than Fayne. If you can speed tune him, he is way better than her
@@afrimlargimi16382 Thanks Musa...what are the chances I actually got him again lol!
@@Space-O-2001 did you sacrifice him?
Prob only Turvold can overcome him with raw damage on clan boss, and lord shazar, noone else. His multipliers are just huge.
@@afrimlargimi16382 I would have in the early days but having watched how the pros have so many different builds of the same champions I thought better of it
I'm considering building Anax, And replace Fahrakin, but I'm unsure. sometimes I 1key sometimes very close, with the fatman. but dunno if its worth switching to Anax
Anax could easily replace the fat. He’s my go to if I’m having trouble and in cb he’s my automatic go to for his skill set and multiplayers
Pulled a Draco on my alt account right after you started talking about Dracomorph on your vid!! LOL! OMG Start talking about Krisk now please!!! haha
I think you forgot about Whisper. Really powerful in the right team. Does insane amounts of raw dmg.
Almost impossible to set up. She does a lot of damage though if you manage to make her work
She is ok but she is not top 10 epics. Many other hit harder than her.
@@olavbakke2889 she’s really easy to step up brings her own weaken and inc atk lol
You've got reason; Whisper built in Relentless gear to maximise her extra turns is tremendous.
I would suggest Skraank as a cb DPS I'm choosing him over goldgleem for the HP burn
I thought I was the only one who thought that about geo reflect damage on a block damage team. There is no real information on it at all. It's like you see a bunch of zeros and one line of dps when boss hits while hp burn is up instead of the lines of dps numbers that pop up on non block damage. Not saying he don't still put up good numbers but they are better in non block damage teams
Hello guys ! Im using a Helicath , Fahrakin , Skullcrusher , grizzled and last spot should i put in Anax or Draco ?
I would say Draco for the 100% def down/weaken
Anax can easily outdamage Draco provided you have the right gear for him and the right gear/stats depends on where your acc is tbh
My boy, Corpulent, uses him since getting. Trouble is, you need Brogni for him to shine in CB.
Damage based on max hp is king when it comes to CB dmg! You didn’t even mention Royal Guard or Acrizia 🤯
I run Jintoro, vizier, fatman, helicath, Brogni. It 1 keys all affinities on ultra. Jintoro doesn't do as much as I expected but his aura bumps all there damage and makes up for it.
I have all these champs, but I can never get the speeds right! Can you please state the speeds for your champs?
@Ralph Bitar sorry but I stopped playing weeks ago now and can't remember them off the top of my head. It is very finicky though. The only champ in speed sets was helicath, to avoid any random speed problems. I had attempted to try other champs and couldn't make them work either. It's definitely doable though.
Yo I run hellicath with dark kael and farihkan with skull crusher and doom preist in a toxic set and my debuff bar stays full 90% of the time too where he doesn't get too land his decrease atk sometimes lol which isn't good for my boy hellicath
I have Geo in a dmg build, he can do up to 35m dmg on affinity clan boss, I switch off his A2
What about Jintoro??
Geo, works quite well in a block damage comp (only the reflected damage doesn't proc, which is not that much, however passive GS skill can and do proc quite often especially against affinity cb). I use Geo in a fast Helicath block damage comp for magic UNM boss and he out-damages Jintoro in the same comp by cool 4-5 million (23-26M vs 19-22M). His a2 hits hard if built for damage.
What about Richtoff the Bold ? Performs pretty good on super budget gear form me, don't see people shout him out for the CB =//
He's not the best, but certainly can keep your team alive.
@@jasonkane7231 =) He's a poison machine not healer hmmm not sure how he'd keep team alive =)
With your account and gear, do you think your infinity team has a chance at the record ? Can't wait bro, pump it out !!
Royal guard and relic keeper are amazing for clan boss
Great video, but not everyone has unkillable teams yet
Plarium should have a tournament where the top 5 on the global leader board would get a copy of Ninja. That would make them some crazy money with the whales krakens going after the copy of Ninja.
What about Trunda
She is not great for clan boss
It’s so toxic that I have no chance to get ninja and I’m lvl 56
You could get Cronham, if you've got the time.
Needing a krisk, brogni and lanakis is enough for plarium to not nerf corpulent cadaver.
The team is so p2w that they don't need to
Interesting video. I have several of those guys.
i would had included Acrizia from dwarf faction she smakes really really hard
Yep missed her. I had a feeling I missed someone when I said it😂
@Johan Schlaff: smacks* 🙄
You forgot about Acrazia...
Geo in fact doesnt work on block damage comps
he does, just deals less damage
False, Ninja Cateater comp user here
Did you just do a top 5 and not add Acrizia? 🤔
Yea missed her
28:26 do you have Ba Satha?
I do.
@@SkratchPlays never seen him showcased by anyone, is he not good?
@@funitoo He is okish, not that amazing. Might do a video on him at some point.
Gravechill is probably better than Kael when her sister is around!
And Teodor as any good for cb
Still use frozen banshee.
Recently pulled jintoro.. thinking of swapping out fu shan. Would be duchess, skullcrusher, aox, frozen banshee, jintoro.. I feel like I'm missing something I need haha
I've used Aox with really decent gear, fully maxed-out and I'd say - just use anyone else, unless you're not running an unkillable team.
Unless you can get a 2-turn block damage or unkillable champ, you're doing well. But I'd replace Aox first once you get something better.
@@jasonkane7231 my team is not unkillable. Aox is one ofhe only options I have for decrease attack.. his heals and poisons are great and he extends debuffs like a mf. I feel kind of stuck right now though. Like I said my team is duchess, aox, fu shan, skullcrusher, and I've been using jintoro instead of frozen banshee. Doing a little better than with fb, but I'm a little underwhelmed. My magic great hall needs work bad apparently. I just recently pulled and finished masteries on tyrant ixlimor... I need to fit him in there somehow too hahah I'd appreciate any damn advice at all
I am 3 key unm and SOMETIMES 1 key nm... if I could comfortably 1 key nm I'd be pumped
Kalvalax?
I've built a full damage Geomancer. It's really not much different that a high hp Geo for big reflects tbh....6 of 1, half a dozen of the other.
I went with high hp for durability.
I can't wait to get Dark Kael and pair him with a debuff extender! I think it would give an amazing outcome!
He is a debuff extender
@@gypsymike2355 I didn't know that! Thanks!!!
@@wraithofkah5487 dude I was happy when I got dark kael and he was an upgrade on my geo but I have him 100 cchance 240cdamage plenty accuracy and he does 12-13 against doompriest toxic 10M
So we’re ignoring Acrizia?!? 😮 nah you can keep Jintoro on the bench. Acrizia took me from 3 keying Brutal to 2 keying NM
When you did the bateater comparison, Anax and Ninja teams were pretty much tied with Dracomorph a bit ahead and Jintoro teams at the top. Most of our clan goes with Jintoro over Ninja in clan boss. I think CCs really need to calm down a bit on hyping up Ninja through the moon. His teams are up there with the other top champs but not ahead of them. Unless someone is being dumb and looking at individual damage when the only thing that matters is the team score. Because there are a ton of other options about as good as him, it makes far more sense to use him elsewhere. Your options for a lot of doom tower bosses are either Drexthar teams or Ninja teams. Very similar concept but Ninja teams need to win fast so I find Drexthar teams are easier to build. Depends on the account though. He's also great in hydra. No need to stress people out in an area (clan boss) where he's at a similar level as a lot of other champs.
No he didnt bro Ninja had almost 10 million lead in that, check out the video again.
@@SkratchPlays hes talking the WHOLE TEAM, while ninja did more damage individually in that video, the jintoro team did more which is key, jintoro brings the weaken that benefits the rest of the team.
@@safiskusai Ah gotcha, that will go in the best clan boss team dmg, not/ champion. A team with Belanor will do more than any of them in the bateater but his own damage is rubbish compared to others.
@@SkratchPlays Team damage is literally the only thing that matters in clan boss. I mentioned it on your fantastic video where you showed that Ninja didn't have top team damage but then you put up that misleading graphic with him at the top that it was misrepresenting your results. There are so many people who try to force ninja teams and screw it up because content creators do not accurately describe what matters: the team damage. You actually had Belanor in that comparison and his team didn't do more but that is partially because you didn't build around his aura.
Hate seeing ninja in lists. He should be an honorable mention since he is not obtainable.
I have ninja😂