Hell Joseon: The Price Of Happiness In South Korea | Deciphering South Korea - Ep 3 | Documentary
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2021
- Thanks to the K-wave, its future-forward infrastructure and internationally recognised brands, South Korea has a zero-to-hero national success story that has become the envy of the world. This small former agricultural nation has transformed into one of the most developed countries in Asia and yet, it has the highest suicide rate in the developed world.
US-based journalist Joi Lee visits her motherland of South Korea to understand why so many young Koreans think that life in their country is hell on earth.
She meets overworked university students and the educators trying to provide them with a different path, politicians trying to change the system and rebellious musicians who refuse to conform.
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About the show: Journalist Joi Lee returns to South Korea, a country that has found global adoration in recent years. She explores what is driving this success and the price South Koreans are paying for it.
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Men are considered enemy of state in Korea.
@K smi agreed
@K smi pp1p
Josun was not a dynasty, mate. It is the name of the kingdom. Name of dynasty was Yi
@Ko Iwata North Korea, Mao's era China, Cuba and the Soviet Union all have equality far better than Japan and Korea. Give a thought or two about moving to a one of those 'equal societies'. North Korea is the closest to your country. Move there. I do not see the point of high taxation. I do not believe the gov has the right to steal from me and give whats mine to others and build twisted and demented imaginary utopia.
"as i grew up, dreams got smaller and goals got bigger" wow she couldn't have put it any better...
Jesus loves you all, He can remove all your pain and hurt if you let Him, please, give Him a chance. :)
@@jesussavedme6260 ❤❤❤
Gotta put your energy to things you can achieve.
As I grew up, my dreams became non-existent and goals got smaller.
@@demonslayer9772 I can feel you my guy, it's not living it's existing.
"Why do we have to live up to their standards and give up on our happiness?" I felt that in my soul.
This generation is prioritising mental health and that's priceless.
Jesus loves you all, He can remove all your pain and hurt if you let Him, please, give Him a chance. :)
@@jesussavedme6260 no
@@jesussavedme6260 dude indians gave that chance during colonial era now we are f-ed 😑😑
@@mayankjha7444 stop blaming things that are in the past ,south korea and Japan were in Worst state during World war but look at them now two of the most developed country in Asia. Indian just gave that same excuse over and over again without really pointing a fingers at their own corrupt politician.
Btw I'm an indian too and religion can go f### itself.
@@artemisthegunslinger3956 I mean you can't compare the three nations, South Korea and Japan were heavily aided by the west to improve their development. India not so much. Yes a lot of the work to develop both Korea and Japan were done by then natives but the conditions internationally were much more favourable to them due their unique position as valuable points for the them leading global powers.
India might have taken much longer but it is getting there and now is estimated to soon become a global super ppowrr in the coming years something that's can't be said for Korea and Japan.
"Dreams get smaller" the most haunting statement from the whole series.
Sometimes dreams getting smaller is a good thing. Because you start to be grateful for the little things in life and have less wants and are less caught up with things that are vapid and have no meaning.
@@Nick-sl2wp "vapid & have no meaning to who?" Maybe it seems vapid & meaningless to you to dream, but for other people it motivates them to be better,to innovate & to grow. Didn't it occur to you that some will give up on life because they feel trapped.
Reminds me of this song that perfect,y describes Korean education system “sky” referring to Seoul Korea and Yonsei university ua-cam.com/video/3e1tV1bmEpE/v-deo.html
Sometimes that is a good thing. You reslisecas you get older what things really are meaningful to you and the superficial or extrinsic things seem less important. It is okay for dreams to change and sometimes we are put on a new path through life lessons or mistakes. These kids have so much pressure it is absurd.
@@youarestronger unfortunately in this instance, it's finally realizing that you are trapped in a system of conformity. That's when dreams get smaller, ultimately its about getting lost or a feeling of never keeping up. You constantly have to live up to some ideal, that's why the situation is hopeless.
As a Korean, I think this documentary interviewed and filmed the aspect of the current societal issues really well. It encompassed diverse angles of the widespread negative view from different sectors like students, organizations, and politics so that the core of the complex-looking issues could be more easily untangled for viewers from other countries. I give it a real thumbs-up to those producers and the female interviewer because they did an excellent job to "Decipher" how the society of Korea is, and where it is heading to.
I lived in korea for a year. I lived in Seoul. I was a US Army officer and I can honestly say it was the best year in my Army career. I never saw this side of it. Really great documentary. Having lived there for a year it really puts so many experiences into perspective.
@@jathebest2835 thank you for the kind comment. I do have a very positive opinion of your country. I’m a retired American who now lives in the Philippines. Korean people were very kind to me during the year I lived there. I still have friends there who I make a point to visit the 2-3 times I go there every year (pre Covid). My KATUSA friends I served with will be my friends for life.
@@yescoolguy12 it’s a small world. We can all learn from each other. Enjoy America my friend
@@yescoolguy12 so this a generalization so please take it with a grain of salt... my leadership style was slightly different with American soldiers and KATUSA. I found that many times American soldiers had to be taught work ethic and how to slow down and analyze a problem before rushing in to try to fix it. They would act first before understanding the problem sometimes confusing activity for achievement. The opposite was often true of Koreans. They would sometimes work too hard to analyze a problem and would sometimes encounter analysis paralysis. I had to teach them that at some point it’s ok to be good enough and increase efficacy at the expense of perfection. They could learn this from each other so I always encouraged those under me to learn from each other and I adopted a slightly different leadership style depending on the needs of my soldiers..
There's an easy solution to every problem before you "Move to the North."
My ex wife is Korean and came from an elite family. So I spent a good bit of time there, observing. It seems to me that Korea suffers a lot from a sort-of "nouveau riche" syndrome, where materialism is over-emphasized and name brands matter too much, whether it's the shirt you're wearing or the college you attended. It's pretty shallow and cringeworthy, to be honest. A life obsessively focused on that stuff is bound to lead to unhappiness. Hopefully Koreans will grow out of that mentality.
Not that surprising. The whole country's "structure" itself is sort of nouveau riche. Samsung, Hyundai and LG, three globally recognized Korean company and the fundamental bedrock of their economy, were all "no-name entities" until the early 2000s for example.
This "nouveau riche" can also be seen in other parts of Asia like Taiwan, China, countries which took off in recent years and some South East Asian country. I think this mentality is a little less prevalent in Japan, which I guess is more old money relatively speaking in the Asianic region
@@miraphycs7377 No, it's not surprising. I agree that you see less of this in Japan, and probably for the reason that you mention. It's likely that younger Koreans will eventually outgrow that kind of thinking as they get more sophisticated about what really matters in life.
@@I0love0you0. Bubble? Just like in Korea now then. Also look up plaza accord.
As a Korean, I can assure you we can never outgrow this mentality. This mentality is what got us to this level of productivity/success from literal ashes in the last few decades. It is embedded in our culture at this point. If we had more resources and lives were easier, then gradually we could focus on morals, values and such but sadly that does not seem like it'll happen any time soon..
Koreans will never grow out of that it will only get worse. I was born in Korea and immigrated to the US with my family and lived there for 17 years. I've been in Korea for 11 years now. Money and status has been the most important thing for people here for so long and people are shameless about it. People think. you are weird if you don't care about those things. It's honestly disgusting. That's why I'm saving up to get out of here.
So I went to university in Korea for a year, taking classes in Korean and meeting some classmates. Talked to people my age and most of them were really stressed about everything is what I felt like. Stressed about one thing or another. I’m still in contact with some friends and it seems to be very hard to get a job even now them being graduated with a university degree from good universities. Still they said high school was the worst pressure. Everyone I talked to (about 5 friends) knew someone in their high school that had taken their life, that just shocked me. I really loved Korea and the people but the pressure of the society made me realise I’d never want to raise a child there and probably not work there either.
bruh you still ain't realised 4 years for a piece of paper don't mean anything?....it's a waste of 4 years of your life....the reason 99.99% of uni students post-graduation moan they can't get jobs, is cos they're in hella debt, and they thought that bit of paper would lead to an instant 7 figure a year job...cos that's what all your teachers promised you.....whilst: electricians, plumbers, builders were learning their craft for those same 4 years and being paid to, by the time you're outta uni and in debt, they're making high 5 figures....whilst you can barely find a burger flipping job.....
My friend also had a dream of living in Korea, but changed her mind after living there. Aside the competition she also complained about racism and felt there was too much pressure on looks. She found a Korean husband though and both moved back to Europe for easier working life.
@@danielseaburg9763 in korea its competition to be the best. thats it.
@@danielseaburg9763 As a college drop out, I don't think the years you spent in college is useless. Depending on how you spent it as a student, you could build more connection with your peers and professors, join organization, or maybe find a new thing you want to do in your life instead. But if you spent it just for the sake graduating, then yes it's useless.
I decided to drop out because I found something I wanted to do that didn't line up with my college path, but that doesn't mean the days I spent in college was useless.
Also, please don't come up with random number in your argument. It makes you look stupid, honestly
what if you domt take the test. can you justwork after highschool and not care about the test cause collage isnt what you want to do
I'm so relieved that my family moved to the states when I was 7. I was born with a dirt spoon over there but have a good life here. I didn't have to do private tutoring 10hrs a day but still graduated from college, got good jobs, went intobusiness for myself, got married, and had 3 kids. If i grew up in korea, i doubt i would have been able to do all these things as well as it turned out
And that’s what people call the American Dream, my parents were the same but never graduated college or even HS because they came at 24 years and didn’t know the language or couldn’t afford the school fees in their country. Nonetheless my parents have owned three houses one was sold and paid the remaining two, my moms has owned several business and dad has a job he likes. My mom thinks she can’t graduate with a GED but I don’t know anyone who can read contracts and play the banks with as much intelligence as her.
If they never left their home country I wouldn’t of been born with the same opportunity as I have been blessed with.
SK reminds me a lot of what we're dealing with in America right now. But with even fewer opportunities. I feel bad for them. I'm fighting to find a way to make money so I can be free from the rat race.
Do you think because of your age Korea has changed a lot since your family moved away? It’s interesting to see how the spoon concept has been around for so many generations, it seems very ingrained into South Korean society.
Well the United States is on a downward spiral. Back in the 80s you could come into the country with no higher education , work hard and live a comfortable life but now you can't legally stay in the country if you don't have a masters or a phd and only then maybe you could have a decent paying job. With sky-high healthcare costs and ever increasing housing prices the "American Dream" is sliding into obscurity.
@@joannejones363 the american dream is still there, as long as you're coming from an actual hardship worse than the US. If you're well off already, then absolutely do not come to the US. I do think this is partially why many Republicans are highly against immigration in general. The help that immigrants get are sometimes deemed as more than their citizens get. Immigrants of course tend to have more gratefulness than its own citizens.
I can see how hard the guy holds his tears when he was asked about his dream. This is not a healthy lifestyle to be a part , I hope they manage to find what truly means in their life for them.
Living in Denmark, I believe that the Scandinavian education systems could have something useful to offer Korea. Here, critical thinking is encouraged, useless mass-facts knowledge is no-go and hierarchy graduals are minimal. The system is not perfect, but most students get through those tough years of higher education without detrimental stress and high rates of suicide. Not being an expert on this issue, but Finlands education system stands out as being one of the best on our planet. Just check in to it.... and as a bonus, you will love your visit to Suomi!!
@@ericbeselin9231 Totally agree☺️ but Finland suicide rate is also high
@iloveyou 3000 Yeah, it's pretty disappointing to see Korea youths like this because, unlike hyper competitive city states like HK and SG, South Korea is a larger country and can afford to be a more "socialist" country. To me, the best countries in the world are those who never stop the smart/capable/hardworking to succeed but, at the same time, make sure the bottom 20% get more financial support than the rest.
@@cultivatingwellness4028 actually its the same as in Japan
@@ericbeselin9231 well scandianvians have oil and other resources so they can live relaxed lifestyle without worrying about anything
but koreans cant they do not have any resources
and they population is very high like 50 million
I think more young koreans need to be open to the option of moving/working abroad. Seoul is so overpopulated and competitive that if many of these people moved to another country, their sheer work ethic could make them very successful
The problem is, if East asians like Koreans moved into another country, they would outcompete the natives initially.
And then the native government are face with a problem, do they stop them?
If they dont, eventually the native population are forced to compete with them, the end result would be similar to seoul, and the corporates are happy, since they get cheap labor due to surge in supplies.
A LOT of Koreans do move abroad, but typically only the rich can afford to do it in the first place. Despite only having 57 million people Koreans make up the third-largest population of international students in the US after China and India.
that's quite tough...initial costs and cultural differences...etc
Skorea is very dense and overpopulated for its small size.
around 30 years ago, during/after the military dictatorship, thousands of Korean emigrated. there are literally millions of koreans in the US alone, and they estimate 7.4 million koreans to live abroad mostly in: China, US, Japan, Canada, Uzbekistan. i live in a popular area for Korean people in california, and trust me, there are always new families moving here from Korea.
but honestly, a lot of them have really intense culture shock. korea is now one of the most developed countries in the world, and they expect the US to be the same or better, but come to find the cities smelling like piss with homeless everywhere. so a lot of young people don’t want to live here. korea is actually way more convenient in terms of city living and quality of life (besides stress). i knew plenty of students who moved here and then moved back to korea before finishing high school. i also know plenty of college exchange students who came to the US, and had fun, but had no intention of living and working here.
they also see the state that koreatown is in and how poor so many of the people who live there are - bc it’s not just the wealthy who move - and are disillusioned.
it’s not so easy as just think about moving abroad when likely the place they will move to will not have the same high quality of life that they are used to.
I appreciate the effort to expose the shadow behind the bright light of recent Korean success. Human society is a continuation of struggles in the midst of many achievement. My hope is we do not lose the faith that believes we are one family that lives out "your joy is my joy and your pain is my pain." Your documentary opens my eyes to real humanity. Thank you.
wow it's nice to see someone who is older who doesn't judge the youth and keeps an open mind to their plight. they may not be going through the same pressure of the older generations who had less wealth and lived in a time of poverty, but the same stress is felt; it's just produced by different situation. thank you for being wise and open 🙏
That's funny cause I never looked up to Korea. The US and Japan built up thier economy. Most Koreans are in debt and many leave the country for the west. Oh and kpop is just a factory of music. Korea is all facade. Japan is real.
@@erikjj235 that's the biggest lie I've ever heard lmao. The US had a huge hand in rebuilding both economies post-WW2 & post-Korean War, just like their Marshall Plan in Europe.
Korea and Japan are both among the countries in the top 10 of household debt to GDP
@@erikjj235 bruh you really are saying koreans are in crippling debt but not the USA? Seriously lol?
@@erikjj235 Japan wouldn't be where it is today without the US rebuilding their war torn industries after WW2 or investing billions into their economy post WW2.
Unfortunately, the culture of comparison and self-loathing is rampant in Asia. The only difference is the degree to which it affects the culture. "Dreams get smaller" ... that's really sad, but its starting to hit home in Malaysia and Singapore also. There is just an air of disappointment and bleak future for the newer generation. Everyone is striving to 'make-do' for the time being, not 'make history' for all time.
I really despise it that when I was a kid in the Philippines, the teachers and the whole vibe was to force young kids into these pockets of vocations like Nursing, Doctor, Lawyer, or Engineer. Little did the dumb masses know was that this leads to oversaturation of the job market, making it viable for companies to pay them less for the same job, meaning they're trying to mass manufacture high skilled labor when it shouldn't be. Now all of the professionals leave the country and now the politicians are asking why not stay in the country. Well, listen if you weren't paying my sister as a nurse a minimum wage then it's better for her to just not have to go to work.
I really hate and despise this model of infinite growth for global capitalism, why not just stabilise? Is there no value in stability? Does the invisible hand of the market always have control over value? Does value only exist in comparison with another? or is it inherent? Is competition the only solution? At this point, this overzealous pursuit of growth of capital is only gonna lead to another form of aristocracy, where only a few play the game and the rest are just grains of wheat. Here in the US, the only way to get out of this system seems to be to participate in it and be the player, however minor of a role that seems to be.
Yep. As a Malaysian, I immediately gave up my dream of pursuing a career in physical sciences when I saw my college results.
Properties and education are getting more expensive every year, but the minimum wage is still at RM 5.50 an hour, barely moved from RM 4 at 2015. Don't talk about dreams, most can't even survive. Imagine, we have engineering graduates who only get paid RM 1200 a month. What the fck. These are BIG private/glc corporations and they can't even afford to pay their employees properly. And students here graduate with student loans.
Not to mention old ass politicians, mfs who have no idea what they are doing. We have a lot of young people in politics, but all in opposition cuz of maneuvers.
I know quite a few Malaysians who are freelancing/in e-commerce AND are working in a company. So, perhaps we are getting the neccessary work-life balance from our companies? And the venture seems to be an outlet of pursuing our dreams. I see that happening for myself.
Its happening everywhere even in America!!!
Meanwhile Indonesian boomers
"If you don't become a goverment official, or army, or police, or working on national company, don't you even call us your parents"
it's just as self-loathing over here, every kid is a pill popping depressed schizo cos ''dis teenage millionaire tiktok, dis teenage millionaire IG-er''....Social media has literally corrupted the youth, add to that cardi b et al tellin girls to be wh**es all their lives, add to that the rampant ''men aint sh*t'' attitude........the west has been in decline socially for over a decade, but now its so rampant, there's a reason the populace are pushing back against the degredation of society, and the destruction of western morals and standards, that were once held in high esteem, are now laughed at all around the world.
"I don't think hell stands a chance against them" It is so inspiring seeing young people change this country for the better. And honestly, I think there is light at the end of the tunnel. Keep going!
girls visit because they want leadership and the men are soy boys
Unfortunately these young people haven't seen what a real "hell" Korea looks like.
This happens in China, Japan, Korea, their overcompetitive society only causes negative impacts, and it gets worse every year, there are many who work more than 100 hours per week. a study actually shows that if people in a country work too hard they will only get poorer. work is still necessary but must be at a reasonable level, not too low and not too hard.
Confucian society , slavery is allowed.
Vietnam too
100 hours per week??? WHAT
@THE ZOLDICS youre joking right? india needs to stop having more children. 1 child per family is enough.
@@harukrentz435 They're already starting to have less children.
i failed my advance mathematics paper for the national exam, somehow got into a university in top 70, landed a decent job with a decent salary, and now taking care of my mother, a stroke survivor, and i am a single 26 years old woman. to me, YOU are the one that has got to be satisfied with where you are now, in order to find that happiness. but then, pressure all around you somehow kept that from happening.
Your story is inspiring, thanks!
You are a great human being. I send you love from Belgium
You are a strong person. Korea will crush the soul of the strongest koreans with its stress and pressure. Wish you find a happy full life even in the korean pressure cooker! Cheers from usa
The same exam system exists in China and probably other East Asian nations. Exams are a poor measure of talent and competence, yet it's the end-all-be-all of the admissions systems.
你的认知好low。exam哪里不好了？？ 看问题都看不到本质。东亚没有赚钱的企业，赚钱的企业也都是美国大股东，再加上美元与欧元霸权，找高薪工作当然难，学业竞争当然激烈。另外，现在中国大陆创业创新的环境是什么样，韩国比得了么。
It seemed to work for their economies though. And how else do you evaluate students without exams? Even some jobs in the west involved some sort of exam or test. I work in IT and a technical test is becoming part of the recruitment process.
In Indonesia too, the thing is that exams/tests is the closest thing we have to properly evaluate students objectively
@@TWisDOG1 你甚至不仅低下，人也很糟糕，呸！无知自大，快去创业吧
" *We are living with the goal of happiness* " really hit me 🤩 Of course, the pressure is not to the same extent but young people across the world face unnecessary pressure to live out a life that no longer really aligns with the times or what we all want for ourselves (e.g. "the American dream"). Older generation ideals still being forced onto a younger generation that don't even have the means to make a lot of it happen anymore! *Living for happiness really is a whole mood* .
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girls visit because they want leadership and the men are soy boys
Now imagine being a North Korean, who suddenly found themselves in a highly competitive society. Stress levels will be off the charts.
Fr a lot of people who were raised in North Korea and went to the south want to return
@Steve Wolcott lol they usually hire smugglers but this might work
@Steve Wolcott your joking right? You would get shot instantly. It's not about getting across It's about getting across alive
@Steve Wolcott yeah, like south korea will let you do that
@Steve Wolcott "Take a tour of the dmz, hop across the mdl, and scream Kim jong un mansae!!"
What a dumb idea (you're probably joking, right?)
NK would take the defector back...and shoot them for daring to defect in the first place. After torturing them first, of course. Life in the free world might be hard, but you'll be killed if you return to NKorea.
The reason is quite simple: within 2 generations it's gone from peasant farmland, to a modern day economic megacity success....within TWO generations only....from feudal peasantry, to an incredibly modern city, if you will: the change has happened so quickly, that society itself, hasn't caught up, so it's still mega nutty. Some of teenagers/early adults right now in SK, have parents who were there during the feudal days...that's how recent it's been.
Koreans were never peasants. World was peasents, Koreans were Emperor nation.
@@billparr lol
Yes, modernity un construcción, no in their minds.
@@billparr LoL 😂
@@billparr 😵
Having a very narrow definition of success is a recipe for misery. This is what diversity (in every sense of the word) is so important.
In east asian culture diversity is/was considered the root of misery, to adapt to the new needs will take a few hundred years
I've lived here for more than 20 years, and I love and admire the shift in view and priorities among this younger generations. It's refreshing to see them pushing back against the endless grind and drive for material success.
girls visit because they want leadership and the men are soy boys
Yet, endless grind and drive is what keeps Korea afloat. If Samsung, LG and other chebols fail, Korean economy will flounder and Korean people will truly suffer. Korea though richer than before, is now ever more dependent on imports (food, energy, raw materials) of all kinds.
@@coldspring22 Such a toough position to be in. SK isn't naturally rich in resources like other countries. Wonder what the end game will be?
Not only South Korea, all East Asia countries have the exact same situation.
Exactly. Like I have no idea why only South Korea gets called the names. In my country it is way worse. But we are good at hiding it and pretending everything is fine, because we are too proud of our country to say anything bad about it, so no one has guts.
This documentary is priceless. By far one of the most insightful things I watched on this platform. Honestly, I feel like this is happening in many parts of the world and not only in Korea. It depicts really the current situation of the society in general and it's very awakening for me. Thank you for this documentary.
girls visit because they want leadership and the men are soy boys
It really is such a well done documentary. Although I will say, definitely it is not an issue specific to Korea, but it seems to be worse there than other countries at least for now. It can be seen through the unfortunate statistics that they "top" including suicide rates, low birth rates and household debt. It was very jarring to me to realise that at some point Korea had even 'overtaken' Japan in some of these areas when all along I knew Japan - which I'm more familiar with - to be the Asian country really struggling with issues of school, work and societal pressure.
It is really interesting how there are so many parallels between the younger generations across the world it seems. A lot of these points they've made are similar in other places, we all are just people trying to do our best in our lives.
Cause only a few can "beat" the system to "success" paying a high price that is ruled by the boomer generation and holding all positions in government and businesses aswell all wealth, real estate and others profiting big from globalisation and automation. We only get the bare minimum salary to keep it running while pressuring ourselves. Only in software and a few very high educated fields people get enough money cause the demand is too high, so they have to pay.
There are only two ways to life a good life in my opinion today. Live a minimal lifestyle of your choice and get free from social pressures. Like moving back out of the cities where housing is affordable and try to live self sustainable. The other option is having a good hourly paying job like in software development but on purpose working much less time to have less stress and also less taxes but much more time. I dont play this "rat" game you cannot win. The later is what i am doing working only as much as i need for myself and future family. Cutting costs on not owning a car and buying used things helps.
In germany we have the good right to work part time in any job but people are so trapped in social media and marketing influences they are "happy" spending most money on buying things for their happiness, so they are trapped to keep working.
@@djmj1000 Well said. Third option is becoming a freelancer etc.
"Joseon Hell" has been around for a long time. For example I went into a Starbucks near Seoul Train station and every employee spoke fluent English, was in their 20's and had graduated college. This was 5 years ago and the future for these fine young people was bleak. They were interested in how ilife in America was like and how they could emigrate there.
Why don’t they just move to the states?
@@conductingintomfoolery9163 It is not easy to legally move to the USA. Of course if you cross on foot from Mexico to Texas then no problem.
@@mikeparker6322 dang, they should make it easy for country like japan and Korea to move because they are allied states and economic partners. But I think all of Western Europe, Australia and Canada should be live the EU and movable
@@conductingintomfoolery9163 Completely agree with you on this. But doubt the current State Department is going in that direction. Everything is now about the southern (lack of border) and Afghan Refugees.
@@conductingintomfoolery9163 it beats me why in this era would anyone still want to move to the US. Better off migrating to Europe where the healthcare system is essentially free, education is free, better lifestyle etc.
Life is about living to the fullest. I just realized tht after 2 years working in other land. At 1st I honestly think tht money is everything. But here after working hard for 2 years, yes its not worthed to throw yr life for the sake of meeting expectations. Now I'm working as a farmer in my own home town / my family's own land. This is where I appreciate what mother nature gave us. It's True I don't have lots of money but I'm really, really , really happy here. Being surrounded by nature and natural life. I couldn't ask for more
Same situation here in Greece too. My brother had to have almost 15 hours of private tutoring just to pass the exams at the end of the last school year. He's 17 years old and he's already stressed like a 40 year old.
I heard from my Korean friend that there is this very unhealthy competition in Korea. People just want to have what others have in order to fit in, to dress and to look a certain way in order to fit in with Korea's beauty standard.
I hope the younger Korean generations can change the way society thinks and prove that it is totally fine to be unique, to have your own style, to live one's own way and not worry about other's opinion.
Isn't this called "life" ... if you can handle competition then you should go to North Korea.
girls visit because they want leadership and the men are soy boys
This explains Koreans. I know a lot of Koreans through an organization I belong to. The Koreans there are so competitive and cold, the younger ones are worse. I always felt like I could not befriend them because of their characteristics but now I understand why they are the way they are. It is ingrained in them to be the best. So sad. humans can only do so much no matter how hard one tries to do more, there is always a limit to how much one can do before one burns out and quits. Thank You.
I feel for young Koreans, especially the ones that come from middle class or poor family background.
Not just koreans it’s same goes to other east asian countries and whole young people from our time. Boomers era is over and yet still controlling everything
This was so informative, but also hard to watch. Korean people I've met have such beautiful souls. It's sobering understanding how they're possibly feeling in the inside about their country.
I love how enthusiastic she is about the dudes humble meal offering.
It's the same everywhere in Asia. Asian has life on hard mode.
There's a term in Japanese, which I forgot, but there's a term in Chinese that translates to "laying flat" or something like that. Meaning taking life as it is one day at a time, spend less and be less materialistic so one can be stress free. There is so many younger generations that just can't take it anymore from societal and family pressure.
Mostly Japan, south korea and china are the ones that the government has slave to the point of no return
It’s mostly East Asian countries like japan China and south korea in south Asian and other countries life is normal even though our studies r very hard we still have freedom and our parents or government doesn’t push us into something we don’t wanna do and have a balance between education and normal life and finish school at 2PM so we can have rest of the day doing our own things
@James Henry Smith South America is nowhere near this (at least not Colombia and Venezuela) since there what they "know" as social pressure is entirely superficial and not academic (specially on women) since there they are programmed to look beautiful rather than getting a degree and have control of their own economies. In fact in Venezuela being beautiful is still far more important than have a degree even now with the crisis. Now when it comes to men, they are programmed to study so they can become employees, get an average salary so they can buy the car they need to attract ladies. They don't need much more because the majority lives in their parent's house until they die. I think that their terrible economies are a result of this superficial/lack of higher goals mentality. And of course, a country cannot move forward when half of the population is distracted with getting their boobs done and the gym. Does Korea have an ideal society? Maybe not. Is Korea as a society better than most south american countries? Most definitely!
@James Henry Smith xD
Probably one of the most informative grass roots docu series I have seen. Great appreciation to look behind the scenes and how various communities are dealing with the “Chaebol” existential rule and utilizing Confucianism as its strong arm. Living back and forth in Korea for 7 years, I hope the younger generation can shape, influence, and create an environment for the better.
Very informative. Seems like a very stressful life. My wish for them is that they have opportunities in life to stop and smell the roses, to feel loved. To have a chance to use their imaginations. But most of all to know that their self-worth is more than some marks on tests or their CVs. 💔
Yep.looks like kpop and kdrama culture has gave us a misleading and incomplete impression of korea.
@@peterlee6148 The drama is the drama. The dramas make the idealistic world. However some of those dramas also show the dark sides. There are the two types of dramas handle Happy and dark emotions. The people only watched the contents make them happy, will mislead naturally. The people should see the both of them.
@@user-sd8ni4sd1n K-Dramas like Sky Castle is what people need to watch
As a SKorean born & raised, half of my life there and the rest in overseas, I would say this video portrayed the current issues in SK realistically. I’m currently living in China and it is interesting (and sad) to witness the same problems in here as well. As someone pointed out, maybe this is a common problem that a lot of South East Asian countries have due to their geological, historical or social-economic factors.
And I am the president of Mongolia. You can say anything and who will prove you wrong. I don't think you are Korean~~
@@TheWorld4all 나 한국 사람 맞는데ㅋ
Not Vietnam. We're dirt poor but happier I think. The reason we're poor is because we're a bit laid back and not very competitive. That's our nature. But that also makes us happier. What a nutshell.
@@godgreat3811 베트남도 교육열이 동북아 여느 국가 못지 않다고 들었는데 아닌가 보네요.
I see the major difference from Stanford in Silicon Valley and these graduates from Korea. In Stanford here in Silicon Valley, most people studying high tech have an end goal of starting their own company. In short, creating the next Google, Amazon, Apple ... Their goal isn't necessarily join a company. They only join a company only after realizing that starting and creating the next Google isn't going to pan out. In Korea, it appears their end goal is to get into a company.
Difference in culture. The idea of individuality is more ingrained in Americans than it usually vs Korea or Japan
@@euko7469 But Samsung, LG, Hyundai, and other Korean companies didn't appear out of thin air. Somebody must have been the impetus to create those companies. Without individuality and desire to create and innovate, a country cannot progress. Here in Silicon Valley, new companies are formed almost every day. But most of them fail. That's ok. We consider "failing" as a badge of honor and something to be proud of. Although most of us will end up working for a company - there's a belief that we all must try our hand at a start up few times. Our belief is that not trying is worst than failing.
@@youarestronger Ah - ok, thank you - that makes sense. So it isn't as if somebody "created" Samsung in their garage living off Costco Pizza and working for free for 5 years. It was government sponsored. Didn't know that. Appreciate the info.
@@julm7744 These money are not "lent". They are given. That's what VC investment is - free money in return for "ownership" of the company that may or may not yield dividend. Most of the VC investors are in Menlo Park CA (silicon valley) and is funded through private investors. Yes, banks are involved, but the seed money comes from personal well off investors. It's no different than you and I buying a stock hoping it'll return a healthy dividend. We don't invest money we can't afford to lose - and it's no different for investors giving money to a private company. Think of it this way - let's say BTS decides they like a tech company in Busan and wants to give them $1 million dollars. If company fails - BTS loses $1 million. No big deal. They can afford to lose that amount. That's the way VC funding is. It's completely different than a bank *lending* money or extending a credit to a dying company. In short, there's nothing stopping Korea, Japan, or any country from creating this environment. There are always people willing to gamble and take a risk on an investment as long as they have the money. What's difficult is changing the attitude of people. People need to stop thinking they have to work *for* somebody like Samsung and focus on creating a company like Samsung. That's an attitude change which is lot more difficult than finding funding.
@@facebooksmith1269 well they do start somewhere on their own but they are seen at some point valuable to the economy, starting really in the 60s they got government support for export oriented growth. They are called chaebols and have the original family members on the corporate board. They are really heavily influencing government. There is a lot of corruption from these close ties. The eldest Samsung heir has been in jail for bribing the former President.
As a Korean-American, I can somewhat understand/relate to the mentality of S. Korean society. However as a born and raised U.S. citizen, I can’t say that I know what the societal pressure is like either. I hope for the sake of the younger generation that expectations/standards will change in Korean society.
The conditios of Koreans will never get better if they keep being allied with US. American shareholders get most of the profits of Korean companys and Americans wil never allow the development of lucritive high-tech company build by Korean themselves.
@@TWisDOG1 seems like you've never saw the evolution of kakao...first time i went to korea,ten years ago...kakao was only a small message app...now they are everywhere,kakao taxi,kakao bank,etc...
And kakao's boss is a self made man,not even related to any chaebol ...
@@leeaznmode who are the shareholders of kakao?? And the sort of companys like kakao are not high-tech company but rather are called IT company.
@@TWisDOG1 you’re right. Stop allying with the U.S. and let the Kim family run an united Korea. Then everyone will be equal, equally poor.
"Be happy" is told by Korean parents who don't know how to be happy.
Can we be happy? God created the man with limited power and infinite desire. There’s the rub
@@zacardi1622 ?
The moment I heard “SKY” I immediately thought of “WE ALL LIE!” Lmfao
🗣️SOMETIMES... WE LAUGH AND-EASILY LIE~
Its Ditto in India 🇮🇳 competition is crazy ,parents are stressed and stress the kids too ,except nothing comes to a stand still on the exams day or during the preparation for them
Prep starts from grade 7 ridiculous!!
I would say it is way worse in India. But we are way to excessively proud of our image to publicly say this out loud that's way even if our condition is way worse, we have no news articles, statistics, or documentaries.
People love to fake and pretend in India.
These guys atleast only have an year of repetition. We have NEET students who have given the exam 7 and 8 times and gotten into college at 25. Oh, the horror stories. The suicides. The worst part: RESERVATION. We aren't progressing because of reservation at all.
@@_ashmason007 Overpopulation.
One dimensional goal/thinking of putting the same goal as others..😂
Overpopulation is the evil root.
I wonder why rice eating countries have this same problems… 😅
can we just talk about how the girl from sky university is so well spoken???
**yonsei university sorry hahah
The girl clearly has better English skill than the guys. She can probably Ace our sat easily lol
She’s from yonsei University. SKY is just an acronym for Seoul, (I think) Koryeo, and Yonsei universities.
i dont know how she has better skills. but for me and my entire family. it was spongebob haha. we watched it a lot cause my baby sister loved the show. We were fluent in English by the time we got here in the US. Filipinos also have English as a subject since we're young. But speaking it everyday becomes a very different challenge. So im assuming she's the same. She must have had some sort of interest to something in English.
nowadays tho, im more of a jack of both languages and master of neither.
@@aj-sz8mu get your karaoke mic, we're singing ABBA. That's how I learned.
@@marka1000 lol we had a karaoke/videoke business! haha. i dont think i learned how to speak english through it tho. singing is quite different after all.
"I believe what students are equipped with is the ability to keep going through life." 😢
Very informative and really like the wide views that has been expressed by the different people. Awesome documentary. Keep it up. These issues i myself have always already known that it is happening but not many wanst to address the issue. This documentary is reveals even more of the situation.
Watching this was extremely painful because it immediately brought me back to the conversations I had with Korea University students while studying abroad.
They all called it "Hell Joseon." The most painful thing to see & hear was how many of the students were already hopeless.
Listening to women talk about how they're treated & the men talk about how they don't have time or money to date for fun was an eye opener for me.
You see how prosperous, Korea looks but underneath young adults who are just starting out who should be living their best life in their youth are weighed down with extreme anxiety, debt & hopelessness when talking about their futures.
It was a culture shock for me to hear how sad & hopeless everyone was at such a young age.
Korea is a country that is sending out an image of new found prosperity to the world but people are truly suffering.
After following all the rules set out for them & breaking all the obstacles in their path to get into one of the big schools they are still full of worry & anxiety.
Right away you could see & feel the burdens placed on them by society.
One of the things that I thought was crazy was that Korean students had to take college classes in English in order to graduate it didn't matter what your major was it was mandatory.
Most may have taken English classes but many were not fluent in the language to the point of comprehension of college level classes.
Imagine going to college & you're told in order to graduate you have to take so many classes in another language, not language classes but an actual class taught in English.
It was one of the things that I thought was crazy. After all their hard work, student debt, studying, blood sweat & tears you are required to take classes which are already challenging in your own language in a completely different one, not native to you, it's wrong. It's added pressure.
The hopelessness in the young people was what stayed with me the most. That & watching the elderly do all the menial hard labor jobs around the city.
Yeah, it's pretty disappointing to see Korea youths like this because, unlike hyper competitive city states like HK and SG, South Korea is a larger country and can afford to be a more "socialist" country. To me, the best countries in the world are those who never stop the smart/capable/hardworking to succeed but, at the same time, make sure the bottom 20% get more financial support than the rest.
A thoughtful series of documentary that explore a wide range of challenges faced by the current Korean society. Thanks for posting.
Involution has become a common phenomenon in East Asia. Pursuing happiness in China is also hard. Jobs are hard to find. Houses are expensive to buy. Competition is extremely fierce.
Don't compare South Korea with Communist China ruled Xitler lmao
@@saint_matthias lol commenting stupid things doesn't make you look cool
@@saint_matthiaswhoa whoa, look we have a hitler here, 中二病
that's a suffocating life
@Hasuran Doribi lol no one prefers china to south korea lmao
As humans, we have been highly conditioned to be dissatisfied with our our lives no matter what it is. Unfortunately, the grass will always look greener somewhere else when we're not satisfied with our lives.
yeah, but highly competetive stress, constant pressure to study 10+ hours a day to maybe maybe succeed does sound pretty awful. I've never experienced that kinda culture, so I'd say this south korean grass is less green. And I'm in college myself, I fully intend to finish my biology degree and then get a master's degree so it's not like I'm really deviating from the "norm" myself (not that there's anything wrong with that). Like, I agree there's always gonna be ungrateful people and things that look idyllic from a distance, but there are things that just plain suck, nothing wrong with wanting to improve your situation
It's called greed, it's called advertising, it's called being a sheep. Everyone MUST HAVE the LATEST IPHONE OR YOU'RE NOT COOL!, here i am, still rocking a nokia 3310, but i own 2 homes and have money in the bank......Choose wisely in life. I don't care about ''fitting in'',never did, a piece of technology doesnt make you fit in, the latest clothes don't, learning the value of money and how to not waste it, will make you realise how worthless material crap really is...
the host's getting better I'm seeing her development as she talks to more people. That's the way we learn and growing, by start seeing various perspectives from different groups of people
Looking at the future means examining the past, looking at possible consequences, analyzing your life, making goals. It's not a bad thing.
We living with happiness as our goal...I felt that..
Thank you for this exposé. very well produced and very well done.
Koreans: in bloody competition to get to the best universities and best careers
Americans watching: looks horrible, I'm glad I can't afford university
lmfaooooo
Having lived and work in South Korea I can vouched for everything. Youth is wasted on the young but in SK, youth never gets a chance.
Joi Lee님, I really enjoy your documentaries. Keep them coming. 💕 I'm surprised to learn what 'bihon' means in Hangeul because it's a noodle dish here in the Philippines.
Haha it's rice vermicelli in Hokkien/Malay too
Hinanap ko talaga tong comment na to. Haha
@@everyfudgingelse7976 haha natawa rin ako sa bihon.
11:16 that broke my heart, truly.
its very interesting to see this reaction reflected in the comments.
it says something about being *human*
This video is really good. It gives me goosebumps.
Most major issues in South Korea have to do with stress. Drinking. Suicide. Stress comes from lack of money and overwork. But its the drive that causes stress which also causes growth and success. Same is true in China and the US. What I hope for South Korea is the courage to change what is wrong while keeping the tremendous dedication and ingenuity to grow. If it can manage to do that then this little engine that could will have a bright future.
Well spoken for a broke person. Only the poor people talks like you.
girls visit because they want leadership and the men are soy boys
So you want to fix it without fixing it?
Very informative and well thought out interview !
This is an awesome series. Thank you and to all had a hand in making it. As an English guest teacher, here in the southern regional part of Korea, I see the lack of dreams and a focus more on goals to succeed, and I teach elementary school. It's sad too see. But I also see hope for change in the younger generation, and a willingness to keep the spark and flame alive.
girls visit because they want leadership and the men are soy boys
I'm so grateful I didn't grow up in Korea (I was only born there and immigrated to Canada as a baby). Korean can be a great place to visit and work as an English teacher, but for people who have to work real jobs in Korea, it literally is hell. Korean society is also built on bullying, your boss is like a drill sargeant and it's expected that you yell at those below you.
Bullying between classmates or by other classmates has also been very prevalent since the mid-90s
It's like you're marrying a checklist of "qualifications"...not love
Love sounds beautiful but most "love" marriages end in divorce. Marriages based on similar values, lifestyle, goals, and background actually have a better success rate. Many grow into love over time and enjoy the best of both types of marriage.
The tears in the journalist's eyes really struck me. I recognize the feeling of having that sense of helpless empathy.
She could have given them money... helpless empathy is so meaningless, like prayers.
" it's I choose not to do certain things so that I can do other things" . Well said my friend. Well said. Life's about compromises.
Noodle Man was the best. Him saying that he doesn't seem to meet the qualifications of many of the women in his Society hit deep.
Keep your head held high my dude.
That fortune teller came straight out the gate with the generalized bullshit that she sells to others lol.
I agree with that..My thought is you can do a play with a fortune teller, but never ever rely on the arbitrary advice.. Unfortunately, some people 100% believe in their words so they even change their careers or relationships..🤔
But she was pretty accurate
It’s so real. I went to a Korean fortune teller, and she was 100% correct. She said I’d be successful entrepreneur, marry a model at 24, and have 2 boys and 1 girl. Life is 👍🏻.
@@JohnLee-db9zt So..leave your comment here again when all of her "divine" words are fulfilled..🤷♂️
@@jathebest2835 Can’t you read? It already has.
I wish you all best of luck, young people of Korea especially all those courageous young women with such brilliant ideas. Love you
"You are not born with much". Yea, throw that out there and 95% of the people would have to agree with it.
Compared to Hong Kong, South Korea looks as relaxed as a holiday resort. At least lower class Koreans can still afford cars and liveable space. Hong Kong is far far far worse!
And you're only basing it thru this video? I know that Hong Kong has it's downs and maybe Joi did not explore the real slums of Korea as Korea is much bigger than HK. This is not a comparison of its worst. It's bringing awareness of their culture and society and the struggles they go thru. Every country has their own. Does it make the people in South Korea feel better as they read your msg?
@@Bunny77 as a Hongkongnese, I’m actually in awe that lower class Koreans live so well compared to their counterparts in Hong Kong. I have a decent job but I still can’t afford a decent space or car. Koreans are comparatively much better off.
@@pbc5137 purely by perspective. Just cuz you can't purchase a home with a decent job doesn't equate to them being better off. Plus you choose to live in hk, one of the most expensive real estate cities in the world. What I'm trying to say is, unless you are poor and living in slums, you have no grounds in saying which is better.
@@Bunny77 I am native born Hongkongnese. I dont have any choice to go anywhere else just like that. All I am saying is that the "poor" in Korea live better than the middle class in Hong Kong. I thought Hong Kong was one of the richest cities in the world, but its no use when we cannot have a decent quality of life.
Isn't Hong Kong GDP per capita of 50,000 dollar?
I live in Seoul/Incheon Korea and grew up in New Zealand. If I was growing up in Korea now, I would get a trade qualification, get the hell out of Seoul and go and live in a smaller community in the country side and have my own business and have a large family.
Joi Lee is absolutely stunning.
Thank you for this report!
It is clear that there was a time when Korea needed such type of education system to create these large corporations that can succeed internationally. Now, however, there are more graduates that the demand for them. Second, Korea is no longer a developing country, lacking in major industries. It is now a developed country and its young generation should now be able to create their own businesses, be in arts and other fields so that the country can have a place for them, not just in big corporations. Students at this stage should aspire to go on fields where they can enjoy and be successful.
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Being born into poverty and breaking out of the cycle is hard and it's not really Korea specific problem.
BTW, I'm seeing that the younger generation of Koreans are very sympathetic towards the idea of socialism and even communism because of the inequality between the classes.
The problem is, there is still no nations that successfully implemented socialism/communism.
Some would argue China, But China is more capitalistic than communist ever since the Deng Xiao Ping Reform.
And similarly, China is also experiencing this phenomena as we can see from the extremely competitive culture and 996 work culture.
@@smolpotatoe1744 communism was never supposed to be implemented in a crippled nation. Marx knew this. This is why he suggested socialism in thriving nations such as Britain and France, instead of failing nations such as the Russian Empire or China. He probably didn't know if a revolutionary government adopted socialism it would spell doom for the nation, but he probably thought it wouldn't be the best idea. Socialism works best in a transparent, fair and just democratic government with a mixed socialist capitalist economic system. Norway shows this, along to a smaller extent many developed nations with high tax rates. Norway thrives, and Germany is the biggest economic power in the EU, with happiness scores to rival(but not surpass)Finland.
That only works till you run out of other people's money
Socialism and communism are both very bad ideas.
@@smolpotatoe1744 China still is communistic and authoritarian. And their version of capitalism isn't like the Us.
Great Video! It was very moving!
So I just finished watching sky castle and as someone who does not know very much ab korean culture, the kdrama may seem exaggerated or even unrealistic but now seeing this documentary, boy it’s so true in so many aspects.
1.6 million Indian high school students give an exam for about 50000 medical places. Some students have repeated it 9 times. We even have a word for it. Droppers.
That is so sad! And I guess that the demographic growth taking place in your country will just make this situation much worse for future generations....
@@Lymor1 we produce a large number of doctors. Many of them shift to usa uk australia uae ....
But yes competition is severe.
@@rohitkhosla8110 What I wrote had nothing to do about if the system there produce doctors or not. Read again.
@@Lymor1 i gave a perspective and did remark that competition is fierce.
@@rohitkhosla8110 Nowe don't produce a large amount of doctors. There is an extremely less amount of MBBS seats in India, way less than UN has said is necessary. This is because no new govt colleges are being made. Private colleges cost a fortune, which middle class people cannot afford. We have created a depressing system
Those guys who realized that contentment = happiness may be seen as "losers" in Korean society, but they win by living a happy life and not striving after wind.
thank you so much for this documentary. it was very insightful, and as a sociology major, im curious about learning more about large social issues within south korea
Yet another documentary which consists of a journalist having a wonderful exploration of alternative communities which teach us that the only thing which matters in life is to look down on everything around you and look down on those who accomplish anything. Look down on those who build instead of tear down...
Jeazebelle wasn't born with a silver spoon in her mouth. She probably had less than anyone of us. But when she knew, how to walk, she knew, how to bring the house down. Can't blame her for her beauty. She wins with her hands down...that spoon in the mouth picture for being born rich, mundane or poor is a worldwide metaphor, it seems.
Korea's dystopian landscape is heartbreaking. No way should a people this cute have to suffer so much.
Yo that band at the end sounded so good live. I dont know how popular or well known they are but I truly hope they get some recognition!!!!
They were very talented & very hard-working people. I love much Korean People, never get wary & tired. 🙌👍❤️
I’m so glad you are bringing this issue to light. USA keeps on insisting we need to follow Korean education methods. I tend to disagree. It’s not like the SAT- we can retake month after month… they have to retake annually.
It’s quite ironic that Koreans send their kids to overseas to get them better educated.
pffft USA keeps insisting? Please, the US is actively destroying whatever's left of their education. They are removing grades because grades are "racist", they are dumbing down math and sciences because minorities are failing and it's "racist", they are emphasizing LGBT/gender ideology/racial ideology over teaching children basic reading and writing. it's a catastrophie.
this is happening in all asian society that is closely related to each other such as japan korea & china or any chinese related countries 1) number issue is real estate getting too expensive for the young people 2) education - study like crazy yet can't make a proper living with huge debt from education loan or even though having degree level education but make mediocre wages.
I had no idea about any of this. It made me feel sad and yet praying for hope and many blessings for the people suffering from so much pressure.
I learn more about Korea in the future from your interviews.
One of the problems is the myth that working for the giant chaebol companies are the only place to get ahead. In another interview video I saw a while back, those that do get in ended up feeling just as stifled as they did spending their life trying to get high exam scores. There is a lot of family and peer pressure, far beyond what you see in almost any country besides China.
I laughed so hard when I watched the first part of dating agency. It looked like I was reading a resume =))))))
Great report. Lunch rocks!
Living in New Zealand 🇳🇿Your investigative nature has captured me. Being a newcomer to the
Korean Nation, South Korea for me, is through entertainment, on Netflix. Sadly my grand uncle
was involved in a war in Korea. As a youngster to learn that, became a closed subject. So now
a retired individual I can relax and learn from intellectuals on a lateral basis with higher knowledge base,
researching your indigenous footprint. This is outstanding given, my conservative 90% upbringing educationally;
seems minimal Luckily modern technology has created many opportunities worldwide, attributed by, eg Samsung
that is marketed highly by the indigenous of New Zealand. Yes brilliance related surgence. Thank you for letting me view your
Stories....Ana
I don't think they're trapped by the circumstances of birth, I think they're just not creative or enterprising enough to imagine alternative possibilities in their lives.
I love Joi Lee's Comments. I hope this video really reaches the insecure Koreans to open up and think for themselves and others. Real values are not the ranks and competitions. You just have to live first, instead of a series of preparations, to find your path worth dedicating your life for. Many goals laid for the Korean youth are just a blinding brainwash just like the K-Pop Idol system. And, whether they are young or old, many Koreans should drop the ego (saving faces) but grow healthy self-esteem, and communicate to broaden their minds. These are lacking in Korean societies.
Kpop is a socially engineered disguise to hide a quasitotalitarian state system with mass surveillance system from East Germany.
Kpop is a dream world for the tired students. They study hard while listening their musics. Please stop trying to extort their hopes and dreams. I've seen the many western medias trying to do this. Kpop is like a cheerleader. Please stop steal their cheerleaders. I agree Korea has the dark side like other countries have but please stop trying Korea to be more darker. Without music, any countries will be dashed. Please stop trying take away music and the reason to live from them.
@@user-sd8ni4sd1n
Who are you replying to, first of all? me or aa bb? Nobody said K-pop (idol music) should be taken from you, or, from "students studying hard."
You almost sound as if the world is coming to an end, without K-pop music, and everyone else, turning against you. It is paranoia. Extort? Relax.
My comment was created for the video by Joi Lee, and her thoughtful comments. she is young and still not all experienced, but, unbiased and very insightful. She is a smart and prudent person. Her voice as a journalist counts. And, I have no idea why you turn pessimistic creating a certain paranoid situation imposed on me.
K-pop is not created just for your enjoyment with free streaming music, really. It is more than that. You just don't know when and how you are likely to be exploited. Once you can stance yourself away from the consumer mind of indulgence state, you will start to see other sides - who makes it and why and how. I bet aa bb is bringing up that aspect since I talk about Korean Society as a very linear mindset (not all, however).
I enjoy some Korean Pop music, but, not supporting the entire industry system. fewer and fewer sincere music but it is merely a trend many times, nowadays, often with borrowed styles from each other. Banal.
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Kpop is a dream world for the tired students. They study hard while listening their musics. Please stop trying to extort their hopes and dreams. I've seen the many western medias trying to do this. Kpop is like a cheerleader. Please stop steal their cheerleaders. I agree Korea has the dark side like other countries have but please stop trying Korea to be more darker. Without music, any countries will be dashed. Please stop trying take away music and the reason to live from them.
girls visit because they want leadership and the men are soy boys
That's what happened when the education system is based and designed to memorise rather than think.
Countries that use dual-education system like Germany is way better.
Korea already have a dual education system
@@intraocellus really? What kind of apprenticeship do Koreans need to take before entering universities? How many years do they do apprenticeship before becoming journeymen in their field?
I kind of get upset when people say things like this, because I always wanted to be a scholar, and all I ever wanted from schools was to actually learn. When I went to an American school, kids that worked hard were considered nerds and kids didn't put much effort into studying. In Korean schools, being hard working and dilligent was much more common and I like how kids can be in an environment that makes them give their 100%. (Althogh, sacrificing sleep and health and friendship really shouldn't be allowed) But seriously we spent so much time with friends studying and asking questions together that by the end of highschool everyone were just... comrades. Against Korean university exams.
Germany does not have a good education system.
@@wanr5701 What makes you think Korea have apprentice ship?
Having lived in both UK and South Korea, I can say that professional job markets are toxic in both countries. In this documentary, it seems to focus on negative sides of toxic competition happening in my motherland but seriously, it's essentially the same with different perspectives. I've met loads of Brits and talked about competition, which led me to realise their upbringings play a role on how they perceive it. Westerners (here, I don't lump them into a whole group of westerners but just for the matter of simplicity) are brought up to be independent learning life skills in their early age. On the contrary, Koreans value systematic education as their priority which often results in delayed adulthood, which means if they fail at important national-scale exams such as national company entrance exams for engineering then they should look for sth to support themselves but they don't know how as all they did in the past was just studying at library 24/7 so here comes the conundrum that society traps them for good.
In my country in Africa there is a saying that goes "No where cool" meaning everywhere is rife with hardship and suffering the fire burns everywhere and that thinking going to a what seems like paradise might save you isn't really realistic.
In short temper your expectations 🤷🏿♀️ cause everyone is suffering in one way or another.
I've also lived in both UK and South Korea and I think that both job markets are intense but Koreans work the hardest out of anyone I know, combine that with such insane academic pressure from a young age with 학원 and other school, it's no wonder their mental health suffers. Korea is a fairyland, outside of work, but unfortunately most of life consists of work, that is where the hell bit comes in.
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"Unlike the American dream" LOL if there is one thing that brings the young adults of the world together is that 90% of us had to give up at least 3 things in life and many have had to give up N number of things that were enjoyed by our parent's generation in their adulthood
As American I have to admit Reaganomics is slowly killing the American Dream. We need to get rid of trinkle down economy and switch to trinkle up economy, which we did have until President Reagan came along.
@@melissalayson7275 Sounds like Andrew Yang. I love it.
Wow, truly impressed with all the talks, especially the Lunch Band talks. Personally, I think they are like the ideal mindset we (as a graduate students) are trying to implement to ourselves in order to survive in this competitive world. Me myself as a citizen from developing country have been greatly impacted by the pressure to meet this so called "standard of the world". It was not even about the family pressure anymore, it strikes me as the fear of being left behind or not belonging to the broader society. But being able to understand different perspective and seeing it as another way of survival are somewhat helpful. Thank you for this insightful documentary, such exclusive content, amazing work!
girls visit because they want leadership and the men are soy boys
Korea young talents worthy and definitely will have shinning future...