I own the Io-4 and find the sound quality amazing. They run for 60 hours, which is quite long and you can use their built in DAC to play music directly from USB on your PC. Lossless up to 24bit 96Khz. Awesome! No need for a Dragonfly. I have tried most other brands, incl the Sony wh1000mx4 which I find murky and muddy sounding. The Dalis are crystal clear and never fatiguing. With plenty of tight bass if the recording contains it. No artifically added bass here which seems to be a trend with other brands.
Tell me, what condition are they in today? Because according to many commentators, they fall apart very quickly, that is, the quality of the material of the ear pads leaves much to be desired
I really love how these headphones sound. Maybe because I enjoy something a bit more neutral sound (not an overemphasis on bass.). I think that’s why I kind of prefer this over Sony, for example.
Sony`s house sound is definitely V-shaped yeah, so if you want neutral, you`d have to go with thir studio monitor headphones or DJ headsets (some of which are still slightly V-shaped so beware lol) I equalize so it` not really an issue :)
Have the io4 and the treble is really harsh in them. I'm not new to flat analytical sound and it's certainly not analytical, just treble peaky badly tuned drivers. I'm kind of allergic to wireless headphones and the only pair with bearable SQ was the PXC550 II...strange!!
@@Forwhomthebelltolls24 so true, i do love my io4 and im also allergic to bluetooth headphones in long run. I sometimes do put little bit more bass on these.
I' m a little surprised the ANC is not as good as Sony's because Dali used Sony module ANC not to have to develop a new one. About paper cones they are used without problem on Triangle loudspeakers for many years. Cellulose is used because it is light reactive without distortion.
My only problem with these is an audible hiss which is noticeable in quieter music. They have a higher noise floor than other BT sets I've owned such as Sony xm3, PX7 and even Bose 700. I'm on my second pair. The first had terrible hiss particularly in the left cup. Second pair is better but it's still there. It's a shame as I think they're the best Bluetooth set I've heard.
I do have the same issue. I Didn't realize this problem in local store cause it was quite noisy. I was really disappointed at home when I've heard the hiss,particularly in the left cup.
@@HellAD They had this batch of faulty headphones with hiss and some issues with the on/off button; they should give you a new pair if you're within warranty, I just received mine some weeks ago, brought them to the shop 7 months after the purchase as I read at several forums the same issue. It still has hiss, but way less.
Currawong, I noticed that you mentioned that these are one of the only "paper cone" driver headphones on the market, which is not entirely true. Cause, Denon has a few high end current headphones, that also empty paper cone drivers. Just thought I'd let you know. Great video as always though!
Thanks! I haven't looked into Denon's headphones for years. I might have tried them out in April if the Tokyo headphone show hadn't been cancelled. I might have to look into borrowing some of their headphones for review sometime.
I find the review to be very honest and informative. No issues what do ever. Having said that, I can't help but get irritated and annoyed at the misusage if words in contexts or comparisons the wrong way. For example, i haven't seen a reviewer not mention the "bass" issue. Always explaining DALIs go for a neutral sound signature, so won't have as much bass but enough. That slonrt, to a consumer that watches you reviews or anyone else's sends a worrying signal. The way I'd explain it is by using a simple word such as TRANSPARENCY. Instead of putting the Sony's as the STANDARD or insinuating as if Sony's and their muddy bass sound signature is the standard, which a whole lot of BS. Any person with a decent pair pair of ears and some common sense will be able to tell the DALIS sound better. FACT. No once have I heard or read a review of these headphones without NOISE CANCELLATION mentioned which of course is won by Sony, but no one mentions the benefit of having active noise cancellation. IT DOESN'T JUST TO CUT OUT THE NOISE. IT HELPS BRING THE MUSIC UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL. In order to achieve that you need to maintain a certain tonal balance as mentioned. Now, the Sony's night cut out more noise but their SOUND QUALITY SUFFERS MAJORLY. So whilst that's okay, little insights like these could actually help which are actual FACTS. it's all over the documentation on Dali's website and should be mentioned in reviews. As DALI mentioned themselves the magnets for the headphone speaker driver is specifically made and engineered for their requirement. Unlike the Sony or Bose who use cheap a*s drivers and on high volumes the drivers themselves sound as if they are about to blow up. It really would make if fair when mentioning and doing your own research. I own the exact same pair and I work in the hifi industry. Now...these are my two scents when finally having the opportunity to test out real shit.
Here's the list of tracks, with unused ones removed: 1 Goodbye Pork Pie Hat Jeff Beck Wired 2 Hollow Talk Choir Of Young Believers This Is For The White In Your Eyes 3 Oye Como Va Santana Abraxas 4 Angel (2006 Digital Remaster) Massive Attack Collected 5 Hey Lion Sofi Tukker Soft Animals 6 Get Together The Youngbloods Get Together: The Essential Youngbloods 7 Snowden's Jig [Genuine Negro Jig] Carolina Chocolate Drops Genuine Negro Jig 10 When I Get My Hands On You The New Basement Tapes Lost On The River (Deluxe) 11 Old Man Neil Young Harvest 12 L'Enfant Roi Noir Désir Des Visages Des Figures 13 Arlington The Wailin' Jennys 40 Days 16 Beirut Ibrahim Maalouf Diagnostic
Any kind of comparision with Audio Technica r70x? I do enjoy the Dalis but I'd like something smiliar soundwise, more lightweight and openback. Supposedly the ATs are ruler flat in eq.
Hi, if you listened to or porcupine tree, to the Sun better than the BMWPXFives? There are a similar price. And how do they compare with the buyer dynamic lagoon? Thanks
You are briefly discussing the durability of paper cone drivers compared to those made of metal. Do you or anyone else have some more detailed thoughts about it? Is paper cone less durable?
Habe selbst einen DALI Kopfhörer in dieser Farbe. Der Klang ist für mich ist sehr gut , aber das der pseudo Lederüberzug der Kopfhörerpolsterung der sich nach einem Monat abzubröseln beginnt wie bei einem 19,99 € Gerät ist ein " ABSOLUTES NO GO ".Ich verwende keine Gesichtscreme ( MANN )habe aber oft einen 3 Tage Bart. Auch löst sich der Überzug an Stellen die ich mit Händen oder Bart so gut wie fast nie erreiche. Also von der Qualität des Materials bin ich SEHR ENTTÄUSCHT! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
I haven't tried it, but usually devices that can be paired to multiple others switch automatically depending which is sending audio. It depends on the chipset + firmware.
@@Currawong thanks. automatic and priority is difficult with multiple devices not being able fo cycle with a button. i cannot find it in the manual which mostly indicates it is not an option. bose has it on my qc30 and miss it with other headphones ver much.
It will have been made in collaboration with an OEM -- something I was going to mention, but forgot to, when I shot the video. So there will be similarities with other NC headphones.
They definitey don't when they're on your head. These stick out laterally quite a bit further, have plastic materials, and don't look as premium. I have the Dali IO-4. I'm selling them because I wasn't a fan.
headphones have great sound. Downside Ear pads have be replaced as a whole and the material on the ear pads and head band absolutely trash. Will wear out in short time, Should have been leather at the price.
I have the Dali IO-4. I didn't like them. Found them quite treble forward and harsh- with some sibilance. Was not a fan. Did not find the sound all that coherent.
I have them, they are relaxed sounding, they kinda sound like AKG almost or so. I wished they had more bass. Im not relaxed sounding fan either. I like impactful sounding with dynamic sound like Bowers and wilkins. I still going to use it since i purchased it already.
@@alexsmith1207 I also have the PX7 too. I like those so much more. I found the PX7 livelier but the highs were easier to deal with, the build quality was superior, it looked better, and the feature set was superior. A better overall deal than the Dali IMO.
The Sound ?..............for me as a layman.........very very good , but the matirial is .....sh . . Why ? After one year the headphones are loosing the leather kind covering. Now they are looking like cheap headphones from china.
I've had this pair of headphones for over a year and the leather has been much more durable than most headphones over the years. Mine are still like new.
Plus que décevant, vu le prix, c'est vraiment une honte. Le casque sert tellement qu'on à l'impression d'être sous l'eau, ajouté à celà l'anti bruit et donc la pression est énorme, les oreilles sont touchées, merci les acouphènes. Tout ça, sans même le brancher, juste le mettre sur la tête. Comment est -ce possible de vendre du matériel comme ca aussi cher??? Au bout de 5 mn, retour au vendeur.
First review I found when I googled, exactly what I was looking for. Excellent, calm and informative. Deserves more views.
Glad it was helpful!
be happy
I own the Io-4 and find the sound quality amazing. They run for 60 hours, which is quite long and you can use their built in DAC to play music directly from USB on your PC. Lossless up to 24bit 96Khz. Awesome! No need for a Dragonfly. I have tried most other brands, incl the Sony wh1000mx4 which I find murky and muddy sounding. The Dalis are crystal clear and never fatiguing. With plenty of tight bass if the recording contains it. No artifically added bass here which seems to be a trend with other brands.
Tell me, what condition are they in today? Because according to many commentators, they fall apart very quickly, that is, the quality of the material of the ear pads leaves much to be desired
I really love how these headphones sound. Maybe because I enjoy something a bit more neutral sound (not an overemphasis on bass.). I think that’s why I kind of prefer this over Sony, for example.
Sony`s house sound is definitely V-shaped yeah, so if you want neutral, you`d have to go with thir studio monitor headphones or DJ headsets (some of which are still slightly V-shaped so beware lol)
I equalize so it` not really an issue :)
Got the io4 and I love them. Great analytic, flat sound, insane battery life and comfortable. My Sennheiser pxc 550 are trash compared to these.
Have the io4 and the treble is really harsh in them. I'm not new to flat analytical sound and it's certainly not analytical, just treble peaky badly tuned drivers.
I'm kind of allergic to wireless headphones and the only pair with bearable SQ was the PXC550 II...strange!!
@@Forwhomthebelltolls24 so true, i do love my io4 and im also allergic to bluetooth headphones in long run. I sometimes do put little bit more bass on these.
I heard io6 sounds better than io4
@@alexsmith1207 IO-4 and IO-6 are the same excerpt from ANC and the case..
I' m a little surprised the ANC is not as good as Sony's because Dali used Sony module ANC not to have to develop a new one.
About paper cones they are used without problem on Triangle loudspeakers for many years. Cellulose is used because it is light reactive without distortion.
Where does it say that Dali used a "Sony module ANC"? Obviously Sony is not going to sell their best ANC systems to other companies.
My only problem with these is an audible hiss which is noticeable in quieter music. They have a higher noise floor than other BT sets I've owned such as Sony xm3, PX7 and even Bose 700. I'm on my second pair. The first had terrible hiss particularly in the left cup. Second pair is better but it's still there. It's a shame as I think they're the best Bluetooth set I've heard.
Hi, which one is better for active noise cancelling these or sony xm3?
I do have the same issue. I Didn't realize this problem in local store cause it was quite noisy. I was really disappointed at home when I've heard the hiss,particularly in the left cup.
@@HellAD They had this batch of faulty headphones with hiss and some issues with the on/off button; they should give you a new pair if you're within warranty, I just received mine some weeks ago, brought them to the shop 7 months after the purchase as I read at several forums the same issue. It still has hiss, but way less.
Currawong, I noticed that you mentioned that these are one of the only "paper cone" driver headphones on the market, which is not entirely true. Cause, Denon has a few high end current headphones, that also empty paper cone drivers. Just thought I'd let you know. Great video as always though!
Thanks! I haven't looked into Denon's headphones for years. I might have tried them out in April if the Tokyo headphone show hadn't been cancelled. I might have to look into borrowing some of their headphones for review sometime.
I find the review to be very honest and informative. No issues what do ever. Having said that, I can't help but get irritated and annoyed at the misusage if words in contexts or comparisons the wrong way.
For example, i haven't seen a reviewer not mention the "bass" issue. Always explaining DALIs go for a neutral sound signature, so won't have as much bass but enough. That slonrt, to a consumer that watches you reviews or anyone else's sends a worrying signal. The way I'd explain it is by using a simple word such as TRANSPARENCY.
Instead of putting the Sony's as the STANDARD or insinuating as if Sony's and their muddy bass sound signature is the standard, which a whole lot of BS. Any person with a decent pair pair of ears and some common sense will be able to tell the DALIS sound better. FACT.
No once have I heard or read a review of these headphones without NOISE CANCELLATION mentioned which of course is won by Sony, but no one mentions the benefit of having active noise cancellation. IT DOESN'T JUST TO CUT OUT THE NOISE. IT HELPS BRING THE MUSIC UP CLOSE AND PERSONAL. In order to achieve that you need to maintain a certain tonal balance as mentioned. Now, the Sony's night cut out more noise but their SOUND QUALITY SUFFERS MAJORLY.
So whilst that's okay, little insights like these could actually help which are actual FACTS. it's all over the documentation on Dali's website and should be mentioned in reviews. As DALI mentioned themselves the magnets for the headphone speaker driver is specifically made and engineered for their requirement. Unlike the Sony or Bose who use cheap a*s drivers and on high volumes the drivers themselves sound as if they are about to blow up.
It really would make if fair when mentioning and doing your own research. I own the exact same pair and I work in the hifi industry. Now...these are my two scents when finally having the opportunity to test out real shit.
Seems Apple had this issue too, resulting in them reducing the amount of noise cancelling to improve the bass in the Airpods Pro.
Nice neighbourhood.
Can you test the mic quality on them?
Thanks for your super solid reviews ;-)? where do I find the playlist you talks about I think it's called 82
Here's the list of tracks, with unused ones removed:
1 Goodbye Pork Pie Hat
Jeff Beck
Wired
2 Hollow Talk
Choir Of Young Believers
This Is For The White In Your Eyes
3 Oye Como Va
Santana
Abraxas
4 Angel (2006 Digital Remaster)
Massive Attack
Collected
5 Hey Lion
Sofi Tukker
Soft Animals
6 Get Together
The Youngbloods
Get Together: The Essential Youngbloods
7 Snowden's Jig [Genuine Negro Jig]
Carolina Chocolate Drops
Genuine Negro Jig
10 When I Get My Hands On You
The New Basement Tapes
Lost On The River (Deluxe)
11 Old Man
Neil Young
Harvest
12 L'Enfant Roi
Noir Désir
Des Visages Des Figures
13 Arlington
The Wailin' Jennys
40 Days
16 Beirut
Ibrahim Maalouf
Diagnostic
Any kind of comparision with Audio Technica r70x? I do enjoy the Dalis but I'd like something smiliar soundwise, more lightweight and openback. Supposedly the ATs are ruler flat in eq.
Hi, if you listened to or porcupine tree, to the Sun better than the BMWPXFives? There are a similar price. And how do they compare with the buyer dynamic lagoon?
Thanks
You are briefly discussing the durability of paper cone drivers compared to those made of metal. Do you or anyone else have some more detailed thoughts about it? Is paper cone less durable?
I don't see why paper cones would be less durable, given that there are plenty of decades-old speakers with them that work just fine.
Does it "save" the ANC setting between turning it off and on? My Sony always have ANC on default which makes me mad everytime I use them. 😵
Habe selbst einen DALI Kopfhörer in dieser Farbe. Der Klang ist für mich ist sehr gut , aber das der pseudo Lederüberzug der Kopfhörerpolsterung der sich nach einem Monat abzubröseln beginnt wie bei einem 19,99 € Gerät ist ein " ABSOLUTES NO GO ".Ich verwende keine Gesichtscreme ( MANN )habe aber oft einen 3 Tage Bart. Auch löst sich der Überzug an Stellen die ich mit Händen oder Bart so gut wie fast nie erreiche.
Also von der Qualität des Materials bin ich SEHR ENTTÄUSCHT! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! !
10:50 Bluetooth is disabled when audio wire is connected?
Someone knows if it's possible to connect a Boompro with the IO-6 to make it an gaming headphone for the PS4?
Thanks!
Will you do the 12s?
hello...thanks for the review. switching/cycling paired devices can fhis be done with one of the buttons? thanks michael
I haven't tried it, but usually devices that can be paired to multiple others switch automatically depending which is sending audio. It depends on the chipset + firmware.
@@Currawong thanks. automatic and priority is difficult with multiple devices not being able fo cycle with a button. i cannot find it in the manual which mostly indicates it is not an option. bose has it on my qc30 and miss it with other headphones ver much.
Please review dali io-12
I wonder how likely those Apple engineers look at this DALI headphone and think "How can we improve upon this" and went on to design AirPods Max.
That's how they design their iPhones, so why wouldn't they do it across all departments ? 🤷🤷🤷
Would you have an opinion on these vs B&O H9i or H9 3rd gen?
Unfortunately not. I might look into reviewing those in the future. The next NC headphones I'm doing are the FiiO EH3C
@@Currawong I'll be waiting as well for a review of the B&O H9 3rd Gen :)
Great job with the channel btw, just discovered you!
The case is very like Oppo - even that flap between the earcups.
that's definitely a Oppo PM-1 / PM-2 Case, though it looks like the OEM has added a cable management section compared to the Oppo branded one.
It will have been made in collaboration with an OEM -- something I was going to mention, but forgot to, when I shot the video. So there will be similarities with other NC headphones.
I like the neutral sound but they could do with a little more bass
Где можно купить оригинальные амбушюры? Мои за 2.5 года мягко говоря подустали.
looks like b&o h series... too much...
well,they come from the same country :-0
They definitey don't when they're on your head. These stick out laterally quite a bit further, have plastic materials, and don't look as premium. I have the Dali IO-4. I'm selling them because I wasn't a fan.
headphones have great sound. Downside Ear pads have be replaced as a whole and the material on the ear pads and head band absolutely trash. Will wear out in short time, Should have been leather at the price.
Really? Had mine ages and no deterioration at all in the materials.
I have the Dali IO-4. I didn't like them. Found them quite treble forward and harsh- with some sibilance. Was not a fan. Did not find the sound all that coherent.
I have them, they are relaxed sounding, they kinda sound like AKG almost or so. I wished they had more bass. Im not relaxed sounding fan either. I like impactful sounding with dynamic sound like Bowers and wilkins. I still going to use it since i purchased it already.
@@alexsmith1207 I also have the PX7 too. I like those so much more. I found the PX7 livelier but the highs were easier to deal with, the build quality was superior, it looked better, and the feature set was superior. A better overall deal than the Dali IMO.
@@mohamedahmed1023 so what's your favorite.
@@alexsmith1207 the PX7 are much better imo
I wonder if, because the IO-4 is an IO-6 without the NC, that they sound like the IO-6 with the power off, as they are a bit harsh directly driven.
The Sound ?..............for me as a layman.........very very good , but the matirial is .....sh . . Why ? After one year the headphones are loosing the leather kind covering. Now they are looking like cheap headphones from china.
I've had this pair of headphones for over a year and the leather has been much more durable than most headphones over the years. Mine are still like new.
Plus que décevant, vu le prix, c'est vraiment une honte. Le casque sert tellement qu'on à l'impression d'être sous l'eau, ajouté à celà l'anti bruit et donc la pression est énorme, les oreilles sont touchées, merci les acouphènes. Tout ça, sans même le brancher, juste le mettre sur la tête. Comment est -ce possible de vendre du matériel comme ca aussi cher??? Au bout de 5 mn, retour au vendeur.
Same, i used them long enough that they would warm my ears too much.
♥Currawong
Checking your music to see if there is anything that would work in my videos. Thanks.