we need to talk about Ron and Hermione.
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- Опубліковано 25 лип 2024
- After comparing the books to the movie series, I want to analyze the love between Ron Weasley and Hermione Granger. Were they a good couple and destined to be together, or was it the opposite?
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Philosopher’s Stone 00:00
Chamber of Secrets: 06:41
Prisoner of Azkaban 07:43
Goblet of fire 11:39
Order of the phoenix 14:11
Half-Blood Prince 17:02
Deathly Hallows 21:41
why they work 27:47
why they don’t work 32:21
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Oh guys I forgot to say this but it’s something that always bothered me- how Hermione had birds fly at Ron in the sixth book. I know they were angry at each other but it was so bad!
I never understood that lol
same omg that was a lot just because he started dating someone else; imagine it the other way around
Honestly, it annoyed me because Ron did nothing wrong! He was dating Lavender, so what? Hermione never showed she had feelings for him so why should Ron be treated like he did something wrong for not picking up on Hermione's shared feelings since neither of them recognised their feelings properly at that point? I get that Ron had the same problem when he was conflicted about Hermione being with Viktor Krum, but he never physically attacked anyone. The fact that Hermione did the exact same thing like two books beforehand makes it all the more irritating on Hermione's part tbh.
Yeah, it was bad
I hated that cause ron didn't actually do anything wrong. The bookworm should know better than being mad at someone for assuming they were just friends
I hate how movies ruined Ron's character but they turned Hermione into a Mary Sue who can do no wrong and she gets admired for every single thing she does. Whenever something goes wrong in their relationship it's always Ron's fault. That's really irritating and both of them are so much better in the books.
They gave all Ron's best moments to Hermione. I felt like I was going insane watching the movies.
This is 100% true and I kind of hate Hermione's character because of it. I hate how the fandom views her as Goddess Granger that can do no wrong, and Ron is this terrible person that doesn't "deserve" her like she's a trophy or something.
I honestly feel like the movies are the only reason people want Harry and hermione to be together and hating Harry and ginnys relationship
one of my favorite things about hermione is how she always puts effort into everything no matter how boring it is,she just wants to prove herself- so she gets paranoid and that's also where ron balances her out,the movies made her into an effortless genius i didn't like her at all, idc about ships that much but movie hermione was probably one of the first victims of YA girlboss feminism 😭
Movie hermione wasn't a Mary sue
And yeah
Movies ruined Ron by making him less toxic 😄
One reason I get upset with how Ron and Hermione were written was that it didn't let Rupert Grint a chance to act those scenes. He's a wonderful actor and I think he'd of done wonderfully portraying those soft, small caring moments that Ron has throughout the books.
I always loved their relationship, I always just felt that you just know they worked really hard on their relationship as adults because they know how awful they can both be for the other and they love each other to much to let themselves fall into toxic behaviour.
I agree. He’s the best actor out of the three. The other two have to work a bit harder but it’s always come naturally to Robert Grint
Emma was always the worst actor of the 3 honestly but she was great as Hermione. I just wished they had written her better in the movies because she suffered too from the screenplay.
@@EmilyDickmesome she’s not a good actress overall. Gorgeous girl, and very intelligent but I doubt she would have gotten into the acting business without the help of the HP franchise. If you look at her in other movies she is quite wooden and one note. I agree that she suited hermione though.
@@raindropsonroses3919 True.
@@raindropsonroses3919 i agree
I never shipped Ron/Hermione or Harry/Hermione. I always thought it would be great if all three of them found their partner outside of the trio and just stayed friends.
That’s how I felt.
same; i also felt it was somewhat unrealistic for it all to end so neatly, with them all ending up with the person they dated in highschool (harry and ginny is the exception, because nothing could truly celebrate him from the weasley clan)
@@maddiemelody9001 yeah, I could have lived very well without the epilogue.
@@maddiemelody9001 the movies ruined ginny for me
Yes! This is exactly how I felt and I still feel like this. I also never shipped Harry and Ginny. In my opinion they all stayed best friends but found partners outside of their group of friends.
something that i really loved about ron and hermione's relationship in the books was how it was very clear that they both had moments when they were in the right during arguments. in the movies it seemed that hermione was always framed as being right and ron just seemed a lot meaner in general. additionally i think that ron and hermione are both people who just like to argue. and that they argue with each other so much because of that "i know i'm not going to lose our friendship no matter how much we fight" mentality. they definitely have a special bond and harry's internal commentary on the situation always makes me smile.
I agree- if they hated arguing then surely they’d stop doing it? Or leave each other alone? I think they liked challenging each other
Its other way round
@@SerenaSkybourne yeah Ron liked challenging Hermione's patience by putting her through misery again and again
@@dhruvbharija172 do you just hate ron?
@@blesbeauty1018 nah
I just love stating what's there in the book
Also it’s important to note that the director in deathly hallows part one shipped Harry and Hermione together and thought that they should’ve ended up together so sacrificed Romione scenes for Harry and Hermione scenes.
Not only the director was a Harmione-shipper, I think the screenwriter was as well - or at least, he loved Hermione and didn't like Ron.
Yeah and the director of the films also publically said that Hermione was his favourite so he took some of Ron's book lines and gave them to Hermione, an example being that Ron is meant to be super loyal in the books but in the films its Hermione who says "you'll have to kill us too" or something when they were cornered by Sirus in the Shrieking Shack despite it being Ron who is willing to die for Harry in the book.
That's awful why would they do that 😐
There wasn’t much Hermione and Ron in deathly hollows anyway
I really like Ron and Hermione together despite what people say. They had an opposites attracts thing going on, and I think they balance each other out. Also it's unfortunate that they made the movie Ron seem dumber than he is in the books because he's more defensive and caring for Hermione in them more than the film's.
exactly!!
They ruined Rony because Emma Watson was ~pretty so they made her character bigger.
I don't like the "They had an opposites attracts thing going on, and I think they balance each other out." narrative, to me it just sounds like "yeah they don't have much in common"
Ron and Hermione aren’t a case of opposites attract. Ron and Hermione share the same values. Shared values, not shared interests, are the most important thing in a good relationship.
I'm really happy to see you defending Romione, I think at this point the unpopular opinion is this one, that the seeds were planted, the moments were there all along, and they're cute together. I distinctly remember being so young when I watched the movies that I couldn't pick up on their relationship at all, when they kissed in the last movie it felt like a plot twist to me at the time, but after reading the books and rewatching the movies I just felt dumb for missing it the first time around tbh
While Ron and Hermione were never really a favorite couple of mine, I always thought their development was SO much better in the books. In the movies, it seemed more like they put the two of them together for convenience and not because they had genuine feelings for each other. Movie Romione felt super forced while the books showed real development of feelings which is why Harry wasn't surprised in the slightest when they basically started making out in front of him in the Deathly Hallows.
I always liked the parallels between Ron and Hermione and James and Lily. I like the fact that Harry kind of got to watch his parents fall in love in a way. Great video.
I would LOVE to hear your thoughts & opinions on: exploring Draco's character arc and whether he should've been redeemed. As well the biggest controversy of Snape being a hero all along despite the horrible things he's done
Omg yessss I would love for this video too!!!
Oh yeah me too!
My friend gives me so much shit for not liking snape even though hes been good all along. Like he still wasn't a great person even if he wasnt for voldermort. He was shitty
If you're still interested in a Draco - Hermione pairing?
I really like the one Manacled by senlinyu. Dark and really long story - but one of the best fanfics I've ever read
@@theresabu3000 No I'm not interested in Dramionie. Just Draco as a character
the fact that Ron needed a book to tell him to compliment Hermione is both hilarious and highly troubling, but also probably very reminiscent of most teenage boys lol
The Ron/Hermione relationship always reminded me a little of my parents: my mom was a very focused, driven person, and my dad felt lucky to be along for the ride. Plus Ron always struck me as a sweet guy, overall.
I know a couple that reminds me a lot of them. The book versions of Ron and Hermione at least, maybe not the movies so much.
Your dad
Disrespected your mom in front of a crowd ?
Because that's what Ron did
And Harry was like that too
@@dhruvbharija172 I’m sorry, what were you saying?
@@mst3kharris He’s just a crazy Hermione worshipper who thinks she can do no wrong he’s been bashing Ron and Harry, in pretty much all the comments.
I think romance generally is not a highlight of the books, however Ron & Hermione have a believable high school crush dynamic, where due to immaturity they have a 'pretend they hate each other, but actually love each other' vibe. In the end is all comes back to JK's poor romance writing skills because nearly every character ends up marrying a high school sweetheart - unrealistic.
Yeah, oh well at least it's not Rick-Riordan type were characters hook up after 1 month of knowing each other
@@cringeygachakidthatalsodoe7154 what do you mean? Are you talking about Jason & Piper and Leo & Calipso? Bcs one of the reasons Piper broke up with Jason was bcs she felt their relationship wasn't real & was made by Hera/Juno and Aphrodite and was feeling the pressure of that and her relationship with her mom was tense, and for L&C we don't know how much time they spent on her island and for what I gathered from the ToA their relationship isn't really solid like Calipso ia trying to live her life and enjoy her freedom, I would like to admit that I don't really liked either relationship
@@MassielRoss What about Frazel?
Unrealistic by today's standards but not uncommon in the wizarding world.
I hope you're not talking about Percy and Annabeth@@cringeygachakidthatalsodoe7154
My very short analysis would be that their relationship would take a lot of effort to make work, but they're both the kind of person that would be willing to put in that effort.
Also I find it very funny that Harry and Hermione's relationship was played up so much in the movies when in the books they EASILY had the weakest bond out of the three
I love that you pointed out the unpredictable factor, Harry and Hermione is the cliché, I was reading the books and actually dreading it, thinking it will be this boring predictable thing, but then I started noticing the Ron and Hermione mutual attraction and I was on board right away, it's just more interesting that way! I do think the movies messed up, making Ron far more shallow and less useful than his book counterpart, and yeah I get people who wouldn't ship them based on the movies, it's far less balanced, but even then I feel like they can grow and be more mature in the future, so I wouldn't say their relationship is doomed!
You say and Ron and hermione are a cliche in themselves
Im glad someone finally mentioned that Harry finds spending time with Hermione to be boring.All I hear about is how adult Ron and Hermione wouldn't work, but I imagine adult Harry and Hermione as two workaholics that would hardly spend any time together. It always seemed like Harry/Hermione shippers were reading different books or simply wanted their favorite male character paired with their favorite female character. The movies definitely played a role in the perception of Ron and Hermione's characters. Ron's jealousy is his worst trait, and it seems like a lot of fans just reduce him to that trait.
Yes! Thank you! They reduce him to his tendency to be jealous, and most people are not willing to look beyond that and realise why he is the way he is. His insecurities are the reason for his jealousy, and no one really seems to notice that. Honestly, him feeling insecure because of being overshadowed by literally everyone around him is not that hard to get, but I guess some of that is the movies' fault, since they never talked about this...
I never got the Harry/hermoine Thing either but i paid way more Attention to the books than the movies. And the books are very clear about them Just being friends. Whenever He hangs Out with Just her he feels guilty for being a bit bored. He never takes Sides when hermoine and Ron have a falling Out, he Just tries to be Friends to them both. If there was sth there, you would think that He would Swing towards hermoine's Side. I loved their relationship because they were a good example of a Guy and Girl Just being friends without any attraction being mentioned.
They never get bored
No one forced Harry to hang out with hermione
He could have hanged out with Fred George , dean , Seamus or anyone
But he did with Hermione
Ron was missing Harry too
So I think he was also bored with hermione according to you
Well not a surprise I don't expect logic from romione shippers
@@dhruvbharija172 i need to dig Out the books again but in book 6 Harry does mention how it's a bit dull with Hermione because its mostly books and studying and Not the same shenanigans that it is with Ron. You might call that bored. And He feels immediately guilty for thinking that because he wants be a good friend.
By the way i dont even ship Romione. And there is really No reason to be rude about... Fictional characters?
@@annabeinglazy5580 he never said he was bored
Lmao
And if he would have been bored
He won't have been roaming with hermione
He could have gone with Fred George ,dean , Seamus
Thats what we do
When we are bored we change the company
I think it's all to do with perception. Mostly Harry's perception of events in the books. So, we get told that ron and hermione spend a lot of time together, either during summer or times when harry hears about it, but it's glossed over. By then, we don't see or hear much about their time. We mostly see harry and hermione's alone time together. Because harry is experiencing it as we are reading it. Maybe that is why some people think about harry and hermione's relationship more than ron and hermione. Because we've experienced their "chemistry" more.
the movies treatment of Ron is very frustrating. It honestly feels like Steve Kloves (the screenwriter) was a Harry/Hermione shipper and was actively sabotaging Ron as a character. The scene from Prisoner of Azakaban that you referenced where Ron side with Snape bullying Hermione while in the book he defended her is a prime example. I love Hermione and Ron. They quarrel but they also both respect and care about each other. I think they really balance each other out well.
I got mad that they gave Ron's moment of standing on a badly broken leg, facing a mass murderer without a wand, and telling him he'd have to kill Ron before getting to Harry, and gave it to Hermione. Hermione had other moments they did include but they took Ron's moments away
@@o0BlackSand0o Damn I know books differ from the films but this is bad
Ron was awful in the books as well, I really don't understand how people just gloss over how poorly he treated Hermione the entire 7 years they knew each other before the got together. He kinda just sucked as a person and I will never understand how people don't see that.
Totally agree with you! I think Ron is the easiest character to be misunderstood in the series because he's just very blunt and kind of "talk first, think later". Besides, Hermione was no piece of cake either sometimes. They were really amazing characters in the book, with faults and strengths, and that was completely dismissed in the movies...
@@ldragon8480 example?
I'll never get over the movies' treatment of Ron, so much disrespect
it honestly feels like Steve Kloves (the screenwriter) was a Harry/Hermione fan and was actively sabotaging Ron as a character.
@@SweenyTodd98 I know one of the writers or directors said Hermione was their fav character. Sadly it is painfully obvious
Not only did they ruin Ron's character, but they ruined Hermione too by doing this. The way she is portrayed as such a 'perfect goddess' in the movies... THAT IS NOT HOW REALISTIC HUMANS ARE!
@@meghnagoel6766 Yes! I love movie Hermione and Emma Watson but they took away almost all of her flaws. She was borderline Mary Sue ( a phrase I hate saying).
It did influence the later series too. Hermione's role inflated to beyond the point where it still made sense and Ron was dumbed down. So Hermione becomes the one to drop facts about the magical world, even though Ron's the one who should realistically know about it!
I still think it’s perfect that they all become in-laws🥺🤍
I feel like Ron, and the Weasley family in general, have always been the glue that holds their friendship together
I think people who ship Harry and Hermione together haven't read the books in a while (or at all). There's no romantic chemistry between them in the books. There was, however, chemistry in the movies so if you only watch the movies for a while, you start to think that they should be together. People also often forget that we see everything through Harrys perspective so we'll never see Ron and Hermione hang out without him. The movies ruined Ron completely too. In the books, yes, he was pretty insecure but he was also quite witty, street-smart, genuinely funny and caring, especially later on when he stopped caring so much about what other people thought of him and gained confidence.
Nope, the read the books and realized that there is potential between Harry and Hermione because they work well together and they balance one another. Ron and hermione just seems like hermione settling for Ron because there’s literally no reason why they like each other, other than Opposites attract
I ship Harry and Hermione only in the movies, not the books. But even in the books, I find the Hermione/Ron love-boat to be very toxic and too cliched. I keep hearing the “opposites attract” argument but that doesn’t matter when all the two do is argue. And I’ve seen relationships where two people who argue do not last long together.
@@BabyGirlTinyif u read the books u would realise the favourite friend is ron both harry and hemruone prefer ron over each other when Ron and harry stopped speaking in gof harry said there was barely any laughter and when he hung out with hemrione and just hanging out in the library
No, I read the books before I watched the movies.
I've never liked Ron and Hermione as a couple. They don't understand each other and they both seem so much more comfortable being with Harry. Hermione got along with Harry in such a comfortable and understanding way.
So I always felt that Hermione should have fallen for Harry or just anyone but Ron.
I love that you said Harry and Ginny worked well as a couple in the books!!! I feel like nobody really appreciates them as a couple, instead talking about how little chemistry they have in the movie, which, fair. But I would really love a video about them, like this one, book version-movie version- why you think they work or don't work.
Also, I really love all your videos, especially the deep dives!
It's crazy how realistic the coming of age stuff was actually written. Thank you for this amazing detailed essay 👍👍👍
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Who would you have Ron end up with if it wasn't Hermione? P.S We're covering Snape on Thursday in a 50 minute video so stay tuned for that! I've got some pretty controversial opinions.
I feel like Ron didn't really have many love interests, so I'm not really sure. I am really excited for the upcoming Harry Potter videos! Can't wait! Love your videos! 🥰
@@tilly_kins987 love u!
Omg I can’t wait
i genuinely cant see him without anyone else lolll, ALSO i hate snape so much don’t even get me started
@@zoefinch8631 Same. 😂 I don't hate Snape, he isn't my favourite though.
Just want to say as a big Harry Potter fan I would love to see more of your opinions and thoughts on the series
I’ll do it ♥️
Can you also talk about Ginny Weasley? Or the Harry and Ginny relationship? Because there is so much to unpack about that. They were such a cute relationship in the books and they ruined it in the movies. The same goes for Ginny's character. She was such a badass and the movie just didn't show that.
If you start a HP series, I want to hear your opinions on Dumbledore and how much of a WEIRDO he was.
he was literally a master manipulator. he didn't care whose lives were being sacrificed as long as his "plan" was going accordingly. and he raised harry like a pig for slaughter. he didn't care at all for him and etc etc . i could go on
I would have loved Harry with Luna and Hermione with Fred, not gonna lie kfkdkd I wasn't that thrilled about the canon pairings. Still, Ron and Hermione had a lot of cute moments too
Why do I like the idea of Hermione and Fred? Am I crazy
Yesssss!!!! I was scrolling through the comments and wondered if anyone would say Fred!! (And harry and Luna as Well??? You, you there. You got good taste)
Luna is not into guys
@@SerenaSkybourne Because we all know it would've been AWESOME. Just imagine a dutiful bookworm and a carefree troublemaker, that's dynamite right there
@@Nami608 lmfao thank you :)))
I loved Harry Potter so much, but honestly i didn't really liked any of the end couples... There was always this "Jealousy" trope that i didn't enjoy at all. I would have loved it if Hermione stayed single at the end focusing on her career.
What jealously trope? Jealousy is very common among teens.
Why lol? She was driven and ambitious but she was deeply sensitive and loving too. She wasn't really the kind who would "focus on her career".
I agree that the jealousy which JK really uses a lot of is annoying and I wish there wasn't so much of it to drive the romantic plot along. But I disagree on the career thing, mostly since in the canon she is really focused on her career and is successful and also settling even more into the large supportive family she had known for years and taking a break from constant studying would probably be good for her, since she was always worried as a kid that she wouldn't be allowed to be a witch if she wasn't good enough.
@@bearwhiteraven4820 Yes, but a sensitive and loving person usually wants a loving relationship aside the career. That's not what OP was implying.
Also, I have seen videos and articles on the fact that through the movies, Hermione was given a lot of important lines that were originally Ron’s. And those lines would have shown him as more knowledgeable and brave than he was portrayed in the movies.
I would love to hear your opinion about Ginny (books and movies). A lot of people don't like her and I always got the impression in the books that she was so perfect and every character loves it at least likes her (there is a scene in the sixth book I believe where even a Slytherin guy, forgot his name, admitted she is good looking). I never got the impression that she had significant flaws, so I could never relate to her. I would love to hear your opinion about her and maybe you can portray her in a better light :)
Whoa, I'm exactly with you! I love Ron and Hermione together, but totally understand people who don't. What I don't get is readers of the books who genuinely think Harry and Hermione should have ended up together.
I don't think that appreciates their dynamic at all! Besides the fact that they have no romantic chemistry in the books, I find that Harry's internal monologue about Hermione was deeply platonic, rather unkind and sometimes even sexist. He often characterized her as bossy and shrill, and even thought about how she couldn't fill the space Ron left when the boys stopped talking to each other for a bit.
Can't wait to hear your thoughts on Snape!
He was always much better friends with Ron. Acknowledging that doesn't make him a jerk towards Hermione. Describing her as bossy isn't sexist. Are you seriously telling me she isn't bossy? As far as their chemistry, idk. He had better chemistry with her than ginny. How many lines of dialogue did they share before he fell "in love" with her? 4, 5?
@@christianogden2825 you don’t have to interact with someone to start liking them
@@austinlarrimore6542 yea, you really kinda do. Otherwise, don't tell me they were in love. They just thought the other was hot, and those are 2 very different things
@@christianogden2825 you don’t have to interact with someone to start liking them but in order to love them and be in a relationship you do. Plenty of relationships start with someone having a crush on someone they don’t really interact with much but when they do start doing it because he or she is persueing a romantic relationship that they can really like and fall in love
@@austinlarrimore6542 To be fair, I think JK skipped lots of interactions between Harry and Ginny prior to the sixth year of school. I think there were some observations during Harrys stay with the Weasleys in the summer and that was the true start of his feelings, which grew over the course of the year. I also think it's difficult to pinpoint how often they truly interacted because we only get the interesting bits, which are important for the story.
I'm also really frustrated about the lack of Ron's reaction when Hermione is tortured in the movie, but I really like how he is the one who catches her when everyone else dodges the falling chandelier (I don't remember how that part was in the book, though). I have to admit, I'm wasn't the biggest fan of romantic Romione, especially in the movies (mainly because I thought they were too different and the movies made Hermione seem too perfect and Ron mostly being the source of humor, even though he is much more than that). But you really got me to remember their wonderful moments, their similarities and how they complete each other, and appreciate their "slowburn"-relationship both in the movies and the books. Thanks for this.
I would ABSOLUTELY love a new Harry Potter series! I started reading the books around a month ago, and I’m half way through the third one. I’ve loved the movies for years so I know what happens, but the books are an entirely new experience!! Hope you are doing well!! x
Wow.. thank you for bringing Ron&Hermione's relationship into a new perspective! I was unaware of how deep their love in the books truly was. It's kinda sad that their relationship development was not as building up in the movies, sadly the way it is now most people think their rs was rather random and forced. Amazing analysis ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐
Perfect as always, Serena! I'd love to see more videos about series, especially something like "everything wrong with HP" where you cover some sins and plot holes that we could've missed while reading and watching films (I mean sins that are not as obvious as the fact that kids in Hogwarts didn't study mathematics). I feel like you got so much deeper understanding of things that you can bring a lot of interesting things into the picture. And another topic that I'd be interested in is some alternative endings of some storylines that you think would work better (how you did with Aria being a villain a in PLL series analysis). And thank you again! This is a huge fun to watch
Oh yes, I agree! Please, Serena, darling, give us this ❤ It would be very interesting.
just finished re-reading the books & was so so excited to see ur video abt this !!! the books build their romance so well, and i wish jkr would've spent the same time on ginny and harrys relationship as well. i would love for you to make a video about that as well!!
i would love to hear your thoughts on draco and hermione aka dramione!! i love dramione fanfic but something i notice a lot is that writers dumb down ron or portray hermione and ron’s relationship in a negative light in order to make more sense of the dramione pairing. i wouldn’t say all dramione fics do this but it’s definitely really common among the fandom and it frustrates me so much sometimes because i genuinely love ron and think he and hermione are also a great pairing!! also, i don’t really understand harry and hermione shippers. i always took their scenes together as very brother sister like and i think scenes like their dancing in the tent in the deathly hallows were meant to show how they support one another and in moments like that their friendship is one of the only things getting them through each day. they were both hurting from ron leaving and feeling the hopelessness of their journey caving in, that was one of the only times they could simply ‘be’ and relax as kids. the song o children will always make me tear up because of that!! ❤️❤️
Dramione is toxic.
Oh I loooove Harry Potter and have also read the series at least 10 times 😂 I LOVE watching your analysis’s and now I’m so excited to watch these deep dives!
Ron is my favorite character in the book! I love his friendship with Harry, how he is loyal, intelligent (yes I said it) and overall a great guy. However in the films, Ron is nowhere near the same as in the books :c
Yes Ron was very loyal especially in gof and dh 👌
I don’t think any of them should have ended up together. I always felt like it was a way for JK to ensure they all stayed together through the years without having to deal with the reality that they most likely wouldn’t. Harry marries Ginny so he’s always attached to Ron, Ron marries Hermione so they’re always attached to Harry. It’s the only way it would work out nice and neat. “The chosen one marrying his closest girl friend is too clean!” What’s cleaner than a trio that all ends up related to each other?
I love your video essays so much, I could listen to you talk for hours ❤️
I really like Ron and Hermione’s relationship. I can see why they are good, why they are bad. And I definitely love how much both of them grew throughout the entire story. And the Harry/Hermione relationship, while it’s not a bad ship, I just don’t see it happening. I just feel like Harry would have wanted someone who had similar interests as him and could help him while he was down, and that’s why I see him with Ginny. I love your take on this and would definitely love to see more things like this.
damnit i got so excited thinking this was out already i dont wanna wait 😭
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Yesss I really like Ron and Hermione together in the books - literally everything in the books are better. But I feel like what made me dislike Ron and Hermione in the movies was one of the scenes in the final movie. One moment I specifically hate is where Ron kind of becomes smarter in the final battle. In the books Hermione is really proud and shocked but in no way compromised her intelligence. That exact scene in the movie, I feel like Hermione almost becomes stupid because Ron now has a good idea... And it annoyes me everytime I watch it.
I could rant about Ginny in the movies for YEARS.🤣
Ron in the movies is hugely underrated and there's a behind the scene bit of one of the producers - I believe - talking about how they don't like Ron's character... Like what the hell... And I feel like that's why he got some of his best scenes cut which makes me sad because he's such an underrated character with some awesome development and a great sense of humour and it was such a waste.
I would absolutely LOVE to see more Harry Potter deep dives! We have too many “click-baity” HP channels… serving 2-5 minute videos with fun facts all the real fans already know. We need to bring back long form discourse over this series! I love it!
Your takes are always rational even when I disagree with you and in addition thoughtful and thorough. This means anything you have to say about Harry Potter is gonna be S Tier content among this UA-cam subgenre.
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Oh my god I never knew how badly I needed to hear your Harry Potter thoughts aaaahhhh! Love the video!
I looooove every video you do. I love how they are so well prepared, how the are very well constructed. And now that you are talking about Harry Potter i couldn't be HAPPIER ! I would reaaally love to see a similar video about Harry and Ginny (I would love to hear you insights)
I like your analysis. It gives a different perspective to how I saw the relationship
I totally agree with you! I have always thought that Harry and hermione’s friendship is such a wonderful example of a platonic friendship between a boy and a girl. They seem to really care about each other, but their shared deep interest in magic is what makes them such a successful team!
Omg yes! More hp videos please and thank you 💜
Ron annoyed me soooo much in the later movies, whiny, manipulative, possessive, I really did not like him for Hermione.
The films really ruined his character
Hermione was kind of vindictive and condescending bitch though. Don't know why so many people think Ron is completely awful and Hermione is too good for him.
Yeah, in the later 'movies' not the books
@@ResurrectionDreams I'm so glad to see this comment. Most comments saying Ron was only mean to Hermione.. When they were both mean to each other. They forget when it comes down to it... Ron would regurgitate slugs for her. They were kids.... And they slowly learnt to better communicate their feelings. One was an only child and the other was a child that is overlooked
@@ThashniNaidoo Truth. I probably come across to some people as if I completely hate Hermione, but I don't, at least not book Hermione. I just completely resent the Hermione worshipping in this fandom. Very few acknowledge her flaws or less than desirable traits, and she's constantly made out to be the victim. 🙄
Please do continue the Harry Potter series, I would love to hear your opinions on Ginny and Harry! I love them so much as a couple in the books, they just feel so right, and yet in the movies their relationship is awful! Harry literally has more chemistry with Cedric Diggory hahah xx
Lmao so true
Can’t wait for this, I love Harry Potter!
It’s the best ♥️
Would definitely love to see more videos on the Harry Potter universe! I’ve liked movies, tv series and books my whole life but never felt I understood them as there’s heavy focus on people and social stuff that I’ve never really gotten because I’m autistic, but watching people like yourself on UA-cam talk about them more in depth has helped me understand them more and I’ve found myself falling in love with books and movies now that I’m learning. Found your channel about a week ago and have been devouring your content since, I especially loved watching all of your pll videos and would really love to see more like that for other movies, books etc that you enjoy
I would love to see you cover Dumbledore! I feel he gets such a bad rap on the internet by those fans who have only seen the movies (which I totally get because the movies portray him as some sort of menacing wizard man instead of the serene, safe place of a character that he really is). I love Dumbledore so much and I had how misrepresented he is!
great video! I would definitely like to see more harry potter videos in the future
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS VIDEO
omg i’m so excited. i love them sm
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I would love more Happy Potter content!
Everything JKR says always makes me roll my eyes. It's like you said, if she really felt that Harry and Hermione were meant for each other than it would have come out in the writing. There is a lot of stuff in the books were i wonder how that came from the same person. I love the series and it feels like home to me but as i get older there is a lot that makes me wonder what she was thinking. Like with Lupin being a wear wolf but she likened it to someone having HIV and then gave it such a bad stigma to be a wear wolf. The elf's and slavery. Snape being such an evil person, treating children so horribly which i'm sure gave a lot of them some serious trauma(Neville!) and then in the end he is supposed to be a hero? Don't even get me started on the cursed child and the new movies. It makes me sad to that she could't just leave it alone after the last movie.
I watched the movies before reading all the books later. I only read the first book when i was really young. But i never ever thought or got a feeling that Harry and Hermione were more than friends or that they would end up together. It was always Ron and Hermione. It really did annoy me that they put in scenes in the movies to show that maybe it could be them instead of using that time to work on Harry and Ginny's relationship. I think a big problem the movies had was that they didn't put enough scenes with the characters being friends. I think that could have made the movies a lot better. For me personally i thought Harry and Luna had more chemistry together in the movies than Harry and Ginny. It would have been interesting if they had Harry end up with Luna in the end or maybe even Harry and Cho.
I used to be obsessed with Ron and Hermione as a couple when I was younger but now I really couldn't care less, they're just vanilla to me.
Liked before watching cuz I know it’s gonna be good
Great vid, great points!
YESSS I NEED SOME HP VIDEOS FROM YOU
I look forward to see more videos of you about Harry Potter, it's one of mi favourite sagas ever. Like you said, there's a loooot to be said about HP and I love hearing you talk😌 great video btw, have a very very nice day
Really interesting video and well explained!
I'd love to see more Harry Potter content in the future! ♥
Yesss, please make more of these! I need a Harry video, a Harry and Ginny video, a James, Lily and Snape video... Bring it, girl! ☺️
Love your PLL videos, but I was afraid to watch this one because of the thumbnail since Romione is my OTP. Glad I clicked - pretty balanced analysis and I completely agree with all of your points! Would love a Ron analysis at some point :)
ROMIONE is very cute ♥️
In my mind the movies highlighted the classic portrayal of a teenage boy in Ron like they emphasise the whole trope of he definitely likes you he's a dick to you which is difficult to reconcile as to why hermione is interest in a guy that treats her that poorly as classic feminist character
It was same in the books
Actually Ron was a bigger jerk in the books
@@dhruvbharija172 I feel like the remption arc was clearer in the books than the movies
Pleaseeee continue with the series !!
you are gonna become my favorite youtube channel! 🧡 I have been waiting for a essay on these two that is balanced and not based on Ron-bashing. I loved this couple growing up! my only issue with it its Ron's character. Don't get me wrong I LOVE him but I've always felt that after book three JK Rowling didn't quite know what to do with his character. Its like Harry and Hermione grow a lot and start to have romantic and career interests that define a little bit who they would become when they are older but Ron somehow its just *there*. Granted he was never very ambitious academically but c'mon! this is the guy that in the first book wanted nothing more than surprass his brothers' acchivements. Why not show a little bit of that? Why don't give him a bit of success too, regarding his quidditch skills? Or when he mentions (before Harry, I may add!) he wanted to be an Auror, why dont show how the adventures they have in the books shape more or less his interest on this career path? Or why don't show his interest in making a lot of money, i.e having showing interest (as a future partner) in Fred and George's business?
And even when Ron finds a girlfriend it almost feels like he doesn't have any attraction for her? he only dates Lavander to make sure Hermione KNOWS he can date someone too and its so infuriating!!! like I get it he fancies Hermione but Harry and Hermione by this point had been shown to have romantic interests outside of the ship they would end up (Cho, Krum) but even those outside relationships and crushes are treated with respect. Ron doesn't get this moment. His relationship is reduced to a mere disgust/joke by both of his friends....and it seems like even Ron doesnt wants to be in that relationship, either! And its not realistic for him to not have a least one romantic interest besides Hermione. Or like make him not have a romantic interest but use that to show me he is just not interested in dating. Like its not an aspect of life he cares about and make that a tension point on the book when Harry and Hermione do have dates! At least by this we would know where he stands emotionally, romantically.
By Deathly Hallows Ron starts to *mature* in certain places but even then its nothing compare to the growth the other two go through. By this point I don't know what he wants nor how can get it because the story doesn't tell me anything about him! I only know he is a Good Guy and the protagonist' Best Friend and his Family is Great but if you are gonna have a character that only is there for his friends then great but DONT make him end up with possibly the most overarchiver in the bloody series!!!!
It just feels flat and I hate it because as you can see I love the character and have a lot of opinon on it lol
Person of my own heart- pll AND Harry 😭😍
Thank you for this video. I like you video essays, and I was worried that I might disagree with your opinion, but no. I 100% relate to what you are saying, as a HP fan, who also read books multipule times. From the very begining I was sure, the Ron and Hermione were endgame(just like Harry and Ginny), so when I saw people online shipping Harry/Hemione I just didn't understand, where these ideas were comming from.
Can’t wait for your new Harry Potter content 💖
The problem with Harmone is that Daniel and Emma had HELLA onscreen chemistry and they looked so good together!
In the books I don’t ship Harry with Hermione but in the movies, 100% I do mainly because of the chemistry between the actors!
I discovered your channel with this video and I'm so glad because your analysis is so perfect!
I never understood why people ship Hermione and Harry, never seen any romantic appeal in their relationship, and quite like how Ron can relate to Hermione, and complete her too, like in the first book if I remember correctly, when the plant needs fire to be beaten, and she doesn't know how to do it, but Ron just remembers her she's a witch
i would love to see this become a series!
omg those parallels are so true kfkdkdm
I’m a bit late to this but great analysis! I was a bit reluctant clicking the video but I’m so glad I did. Well balaced analysis, would love to see more hp content from you! I would also like to add my two cents about how hermione indirectly helped Ron’s character development throughout the books. Many people don’t notice these slight improvements in Ron’s character that were indirectly caused bc of hermione. Like Ron’s treatment to the house elves before and after. During GOF he didn’t really care for them, would usually tell hermione that they like being enslaved, wouldn’t really bother hermione with SPEW unless she asked him to, etc. But in deathly hallows in midst of a war where hermione completely forgot abt the house elves, Ron didn’t. He reminded them of the elves and that they should free them! He went from “they are content with the way they’re living to realising that they really have no choice but to be content with it, etc.” and that’s when hermione finally kissed him! To me that was perfect timing for the kiss, to have him reminding her of something she held close to her heart. It’s a lesson she indirectly taught him, it’s one of my favourite moments of them together bc you get to see that he was actually listening to her all this time, his words were still on his mind even when they were in the verge of dying in a war. It’s something she finds important, thus making it important to him (in some sorta way). There are many other examples of Ron’s development that were indirectly caused by hermione, but this was my absolute favourite! they really compliment each other in a great way. Btw I’m sure I’m not the only on who noticed that hermione adopted a cat version of Ron (ginger, grumpy, an outcast who isn’t wanted, etc). That was the cutest thing!
i never noticed that but its so true! crookshanks reminds me of ron. so cuteeee
I’d love to hear your thoughts about the Marauders, especially sirius as a parental figure!
agree so much with you! i'd love to see an analysis of harry's love interests cho and ginny and what you think about those relationships. especially with ginny
I'll admit I did like the idea of Fred and Hermione, mostly because I think I enjoy characters who are traditionally uptight being able to let loose with the fun characters
i dont know anything about harry potter but im watching it cause i love your videos lol
Yes! I’d love more Harry Potter themed videos!
Also I would love it if you did a video on Draco Malfoy? People seem oddly obsessed with him and I'm so confused by it LOL
cool video serena i subscribed ur amazing
Great series! I would love more content of Harry Potter!
yes more harry potter! i’m actually re-reading the books right now! and just finished dealthy hallows 1 in my movie rewatch.
More please! :)
I am obsessed with your earrings 😅
Oh thank you!
Would LOVE to hear more of your thoughts on the HP universe !! ❤️❤️
I would have loved to see Draco get a redemption story instead of Snape. I mean after the punch, Hermione could start seeing the good in Draco and that he was forced because of his parents. I mean then Draco ending up with a muggleborn, that would have been awesome.
I absolutely agree with you, but I have to say that I love Draco and Astoria. I would have wanted more of them together. I wanted to get to know her, find out more about her, knowing which house she belonged in, etc. (I really want to believe that she was a Slytherin, because while being very kind and sweet, she must have been ambitious too to get married to a Malfoy - even for love💚
At least we have the best fanfics ☺️
@@CrystalGoddess90 We barely know anything about them though, she was basically just another character's little sister and the handpicked pure blood partner for Draco.
@@LydiaIsSweet We do know that Draco and Astoria married for love, that she was a couple of years younger than he was, that they raised their son without prejudices, that she died from a blood curse, etc.
Yes yes and yes, more Harry Potter content ! These kind of views weren't around when Harry Potter was at his peak so please explore more ! I've started reading Isolation (dramione fanfic) just because I'm craving Harry Potter content (and it's amazing ahah). And for those interested I recommend the podcast Fangasm (known previously as Potterotica), sooooo funny.
Yasss more harry potter content please!!
I would love to see a video on Harry/Cho. That date at Madam Puddifoot's was just so hillariously awkward. I would have loved to see it on the movie.
could you do a drarry or wolfstar analysis ? i love your videos and i would love to hear your thoughts !!!
I’d love to see you do more HP content! Like an analysis of Draco and other characters etc 😊
I totally can see what you mean about Ron and Hermione throughout the books and how the writing is there. But I don’t see the same throughout the books with Harry and Ginny. The writing is not there for Harry and Ginny until it literally is forced down the readers.