Focal Vestia No1 vs Chora 806 A/B Music Comparisons
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- Опубліковано 30 бер 2023
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Focal Vestia N°1 vs Focal Chora 806
Here is the A/B Music Demo Comparisons between the all new Vestia N°1 and the Chora 806 Bookshelf Speakers! 🔊🔊
We Demo 3 Different Tracks: Jazz, Female Vocals, and Hip Hop
Music:
Jazz: Ecstasy In Numbers - Spellbound
Female Vocal:
HipHop: G-Side - Huntsville International
Let us know your thoughts to what you hear.
Vestia No1
Inspired by the pure heritage of Focal bookshelf loudspeakers, Vestia N°1 combines finesse with compact design.
Slate Fiber cone with his recycled carbon fibers made in Focal’s French workshops along with the ‘M’-Shaped inverted dome TAM Tweeter to enhance the treble.
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Specifications:
•2-way Bass-reflex Bookshelf Loudspeaker
•6 1/2" Slatefiber Midbass
•1" TAM Al/Mg Inverted ‘M’ Dome Tweeter
•Sensitivity 89.5dB
•Frequency Response 56Hz-30kHz
•Dimensions (WxDxH)
8 5/8” x 10 1/4” x 15 1/4"
•Weight 15.4 lbs each
•Finishes High Gloss Black, Dark Wood, Light Wood
•Retail Price: $1198 Pair (Stands $249)
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What a amazing comparisment. Top notch video. , a joy to watch. Thanks 🙏
You did us a great service with this video. Thank you!!! Both sound great, especially considering price. The Vestia sounds a bit more refined, especially noticeable on vocals, but both are impressive. I just subscribed to your channel and really look forward to your future videos!
I wish all speaker presentations were done the way you did yours because it really helps to know how each speaker sounds like. Awesome job ...👍
Thanks a lot for saying so. I'm glad you like that.
I agree that there should be more music comparisons between products and not just a reviewers opinion of them. There should be both so you can hear what it is that they are describing.
I think I should do more comparison videos since people like to see that.
The difference is hearable. Vestia have nore air around intruments and deepness. I would say that Vestia sounds alive, while Chora sounds like a speaker.
Yep! I know what you mean. I could tell the highs were better and it did have a bit more depth and better placement within the soundstage. I'm going to say that it has to do with that new M tweeter.
Chora for me. Thanks for sharing.
Nothing wrong with that. Thanks for watching!
To my ears the Chora clearly sounds better. It has air around the instruments and vocals where the Vestia sounds boxy and congested in comparison. Interesting as the Chora is a lot cheaper here in the UK. I think the Chora is great value for money if a little on the big and ungainly side size wise.
I agree with a lot of what you said. The Vestia is boxier sounding in the midrange in comparison to the Chora. So the airiness of the Chora is better in the midrange but the airiness of the highs and detail is better in the Vestia because of the new M tweeter.
But overall the Chora is a great value if you can still get hands on them.
And yes, the Chora 806 is rather big compared to the more compact Vestia No1. I prefer the Vestia's size and design.
The Chora were boomy , vocals were thin and treble was not precise, Vestia bass was well defined and controlled, vocals were defined and full, highs were controlled well defined and precise, might have to trade my Arias🤔
I have managed to get 4 x chora 816 floorstanders and they sound amazing to me! Will be getting the centre speaker to match but wasnt sure whether to get the Vestia instead , but as there definitely seems to be a difference and to my ears, the vocals seem separated more with the choras, i will get that to match.
Wow, that's awesome! That will be an amazing setup.
Get the Theva Center. Theva is the new line that is the direct replacement for the Chora. Vestia is a line above Chora.
The Chora High Frequency goes higher to my ears i.e. brighter , The Vestia are less open sound ,boxy sound is a good description , so it's all about tweeter tuning difference.they are not my type of speakers , l preferred Dali speakers for smoothness separation and clarity in an affordable way. Thank You, for other option i'll go Polk r700 for control and clarity weighty mids !
The Chora definitely sounds better.
The difference(s) was obvious with You've Got a Friend. The Vestia sounded thinner and even more forward than the Chora.
Easy decision for me if I were in the market for either of these.
Thanks for doing the comparison!
Right. If that is more of the type of music that you are going to listen to then that difference would cater more to your tastes.
Congratulation for the comparing, it happens to interest me a lot!
As, i could hear, they were a l m o st the same !....But, the older chora, sounded , for sure, a little more ..rich.. ? So the fact that vestia is newer , a little pricier and ...i have to put so much effort to find if any difference, didn't "sound" very appealing to me! :) The positive i could tell for the newer vestia, was , at the track played around : 13.03, was more "airy" live and 3 d sounding. But maybe some music with more natural instruments-sounds, or orchestra with classical music could reveal more things. Generally...the chora 806 is very strong and close to what we call "natural", and sounds like the music..flοw free .. which is something i like and respect very much!
Thanks a lot!
You obviously put a lot of thought and consideration into what you are saying and what you've experienced. I think its great as a lot of people just listen to music passively, and that's ok too, but it often difficult to put into words what you are hearing.
I think I should do more comparison videos as its a wonderful example of how one speaker may sound compared to another.
Thanks for watching and for your comments.
I think may be a little bit more Clear the focal Vestia No1. I have the Chora 806 I'm Happy with the Base that Cames from my 806 & I like that they R more taller Next upgrade for me Upmarket is the B&W Bowers & Wilkins 801 D4 Floorstanding Loudspeakers
Yeah the Chorus are good speakers and are different enough so you can get something that you like. If a taller bookshelf speaker is what you like, then its great to have different options available.
Going to the B&W 801 D4 would be an amazing ultimate upgrade!
I've listened to the smaller B&W's in the Showroom but would love to get the 801 D4's in there!
Have you ever listened to the Focal Sib Evo 5.1.2 HTiB? Would swapping it for Vestias be a significant improvement?
May I ask why you removed the grills of Chora tweeters?
Chora 806
I prefer the sound of Vestia, it's more neutral.
I think the tweeter is mostly responsible for that at this point. I think they need more break in time to become the obvious choice.
what happened to the tweeter grille on the choras? Difference is also way more substantial than I expected.
I just took the tweeter grills off of the Choras so both speakers were both without grills when doing the comparison. I can't say that doing so makes a substantial difference, but I'll often take all of the grills off when critical listening.
I'd say that some music that they are pretty close. But the last song with that high triangle sound in it, the M tweeter on the Vestia is so much better.
I'd imagine that things will continue to get better as they break in.
@@connectronix17 I didn’t know you could do that. Did you just pry it off?
@@jakeslavin9355 I wouldn't say pry, lol
Since the grills are made of metal and the tweeter is a magnet, they are just held in magnetically.
With the tweeter grills on the Chora's I was just able to pull them off with a slight twist and try to get your finger in there to get enough of it to grab it to pull it off.
The older Chorus speakers where more difficult to get off and would usually require a paperclip of something to get in there and pull it off.
But be careful, these are sensitive tweeters!
@@connectronix17 Noted. Thanks for the info!
Vestia😍💪
How do they compare to the vocal Corus 906 ?
Vestias seem smoother and more coherent. At least via YouTude.
I have Chora 826 Ds. They really separate percussion. The vestia integrates the drums into the music, and is not as open. Diana Krall CDs really isolate the drums and bass player. Vestias are easier listening to me at the expense of being less precise. For me both have their merits. I like my Choras and play them with Dolby Atmos jumpered to play all the time. They are wonderful for Diana Krall and Norah Jones and even sound great on Beatles CDs. Couldn't pass them up on close out.
I love music Rock... CanYou try it...Mr. Please.. 🙏❤🤟
Good idea. I like to switch it up.
and there's no price difference whatsoever in anyway, that's amazing..
Well technically the Chora's are less expensive as they are currently on sale.
@@connectronix17 wait I thought they were Free Just free , .. No ?? I don't understand..
No, unfortunately they're not free.
@@connectronix17 did I miss the Pricing then?? in your review??
@@reserva120 I mention the pricing in the previous Vestia N01 Unboxing, Overview video. I talk about the Focal line-up in that video.
The video was going to be all together but it got too long so I split the A/B comparisons video and made this one separate.
As of the airing of the video and today, the pricing is as follows:
Chora 806: $999 Pair / Sale $599 Pair
Chora Stands: $289 Pair / Sale $149 Pair
Vestia No1: $1199 Pair
Vestia Stands: $249 Pair
what the. if you agree that memory messes up a/b comparison (which ive def noticed a ton that no gap can occur) why not just do that thee entire time!? was relieved you did at the end but earlier, was pretty disgruntled for 3/4 the time feeling so the take away is kinda tiny sorry. peace
and then maybe try some more bass heavy stuff for one track? these speaks dont have much but like at least a hiphop song with better kick drum.
Vestia has physically closer and therefore better tweeter-woofer integration.
The new Vestia have better time alignment and a bigger sound stage.
I have the 806
It's subtle but it's there. Depending on what you're listening to it"ll be a bigger difference. The Chora 806 is a great speaker, and even better after it is broken in and set-up properly.
@@connectronix17 I know I got them due to the sale a couple months ago. I was not taking them seriously, but put them on an amp like a Rega or a moon and wow they really shine. I am going to have the crossovers upgraded.
@@jasonme3557 Oh totally. They definitely have some potential. Like upgraded with GR Research or on your own with Parts Express or something?
Is Vestia going to replace the chora series?
Actually Focal just announced at AXPONA the new Theva Line. Theva is going to replace the Chora and the Vestia is the next step above the Theva.
I like both speakers. The Chora sound pattern seems to be a little larger. The Vestia N1 sounds fine as a new model.
I know what you're saying but that's likely because the Chora's are further apart and closer to their ideal listening position.
The Vest's definitely need some more time on them.
@@connectronix17 Thanks for reply. Excellent demo!
@@philthomas8351 Thanks!
Glad you liked it!
For me chora is best sound
It is a very close comparison. Some things are better about the Chora.I'm thinking that maybe i need to do a followup comparison after the Vestia get some more time on them and broken in.
>Isn't it amazing to realise the cost of both the focal crossovers caps across two pairs doesn't come anywhere near manufacturing the four rubber feet on one of your monoblocks, #mismatched.
Haha, that's funny. But kind of true.
Like look at the cost of some of the HRS or Critical Mass equipment stands. The stand alone can cost more than an entire HiFi setup!
Probably the same driver?
I think Aria 906 is winner (the best one) between Chora and Vestia…
That's funny..But I kinda agree with that.
And that’s why i have the Aria 906 great sounding speaker
It’s better if you use stereo microphone
I'll have to look into that.
Personally I much prefer the Chora, better balanced. The Vestia seems to have some nasty
resonances.
I totally know what you mean. That’s the mid-rangey boxiness sound that I hear from time to time.
I spoke to the Focal rep about it in he said they had a pair in their office that was much the same way but they ran them in continually for a couple weeks and they improved quite a bit.
I have some time on these now and they have gotten a little better but you can tell they need some more time.
@@connectronix17 I'm also biased as I own this Chora model and am amazed at how good they are for the price.
Right. Especially if you can grab some on sale before they are gone.
Hello, I am new to Hifi World. Can someone explain to me what is the "resonances sound" that you mean please?
I have listened to several Focal speakers, including some five digit ones, and the marque has never done anything for me. The sound is just too thin and fatiguing for me. They seem to favor detail over ultimate musicality. I don't find the Vestia to be a significant improvement over its predecessor. Focal "borrowed" Winslow Burhoe's inverted dome but the old EPI and Genesis inverted domes were much more musical and listenable over the long haul than what I am hearing here.
Better to buy used old Aria series. Aria > Vestia > Chora
This is totally unrelated to the topic your rug is sweet you wouldn't happen to know the brand name?
Thanks! I really like them too. We bought them about 10 years ago locally here in Milwaukee at a place called HOBO.
They have since gone out of business. So I have no idea. 🤷🏻♂️
The only information on the tag on the bottom says, Premium Hand Carved. Milano. 8 x 11 Premium 1050 Beige.
Made in Turkey.
....very distinctive special when mono..
(I could not hold the sarcasm.. sorry)
On YT, the Vestia sounds more open and clearer and more refined and musical to me. Also sounds more dynamic and punchy and better bass. The Chora sounds more harsh and less refined and musical to my ears.
First song name, please.
Jazz: Ecstasy In Numbers - Spellbound
@@connectronix17 Thanks
vestia for me...chora is a lot harshier
I think the Vestia is better as well.
omg
The vestía sound less boxy.
Yeah, I agree. It comes out on certain sounds and notes but not as obvious as on the Chora.
@@connectronix17 wait yoiu were saying the the vestias are more box like regarding the mids...
They weren’t level matched enough to make any comparison
Amount spent on stereo >$20000 Amount spent on room $0 but thats ok.
I’m not sure what you mean by that.
Care to explain?
@@connectronix17 your room when talking sounds like a cardboard box so the music isn’t going to sound the best, plus it is tiny which equates to more problems. But having said that the room is the same for both cabinets and it is a cabinet review. You didn’t need me to explain this, you know this. I’m sure you are planing a better room soon of you can. 21’(L) x 19’(W) x 13’(H) is the minimum requirement so i have learnt (acoustic fields), which is big, but to have minimal reflections you need that size plus it still needs $k of treatment! Enjoy 👍
@@steyer-crmg
Actually I have a cardboard voice box. That’s why my voice sounds like that. Thanks for noticing.
I’m in a commercial space so I’m limited with what I can do. But we do have numerous acoustical treatments throughout.
The dimensions are 11’6” Wide x 24’3” Deep x 9’ High.
I have had tons of manufacturer reps, procuct reps, and customers on there over the last decade plus, and no one ever said it was a bad sounding room. And I’ve often had reps say the opposite and mention that our room sounds good and actually much better than most dealers that they deal with.
There are a lot of bad rooms out there.
I’m not going to say that our room is the most ideal audiophile room because it’s not. I wish we had more width to play with.
So, our room might not be the greatest but it most certainly isn’t bad.
What likely is bad is the camera and camera mic and mediocre recording/editing skills. Now that I’ll admit isn’t great. I need to continue to work on that and improve.
Our point of the videos is to show the stuff we do, the cool equipment and products, and to give some advice along the way. We want people to know that we exist as part of the industry and to be another option for people to watch.
I watch all the big UA-cam professionals out there just like you do. They are pros and much better. But that is their living.
We appreciate you watching. If you get something from the videos, great!
If not, that’s ok too. We both can keep watching the other guys.
@@connectronix17 To me it sounds like the mic is the weak link more than the room.
@@ShawnThuris Yeah, more than likely.
Cables need at least 20 minutes run time every time you move them around. And they should be kept off the carpet!
I'm sure they need a little time to settle but I've never heard 20 minutes. I'd imagine every cable and every situation is different. But if you're switching back and forth between speakers, both speakers are experiencing the same cables and their lack of time on them.
I don't like cable on the carpet either. There are many that would agree with that. We have Cable Elevators in the system.
@@connectronix17 yes, I saw those. I was using the same same thing. But again, not trying to criticize but the demo should’ve been done separately - with the speakers playing one video at a time and not side-by-side. And I’m not sure about the speakers sitting flat on carpet. Have you ever tried a plinth (wood or granite) underneath them? Again, I’m not criticizing I’m just relating my experiences.
And I just saw that you have some ISOAcoustics there. How do you like those?
I had them sitting side-by-side when I was showing and talking about the differences between them and it was just easier to leave them as they were and just do a quick swap of cables.
I agree to do it better would be to record each one separately with them setup in their proper position.
I always use the spikes whenever possible because of the carpet.
And of course I've thought of a plinth of some sort. Like a nice thick heavy piece of granite with spikes on it. But not only would that raise the speaker up another couple inches, we don't want to show products that customers can't come in and buy. But personally its something to think about.
I really like the IsoAcoustics. They make a lot of great products now and they keep expanding the line. They're great people there and are innovative with cost effective products that work. As I'm sure you know, some of the audiophile cones, spikes, and isolators can be priced insane.
I have an unboxing and overview video in the works.
Bad configuration of the speakers which are positioned at different distances from the side walls!!! It is OBVIOUS that the response of both the low frequencies and the mids are slightly greater; full-bodied with Vestia!! Furthermore, hearing your very high-pitched voice makes me understand that your environment is VERY reflective and NOT AT ALL suitable for SERIOUS listening! Finally, the pure comparison is done differently and with an IMMEDIATE transition from 1 system to another!!! TOO MANY errors!! If you are a trader I advise you to change profession!!! Try selling fish! As a screamer you can do well: you will certainly be more successful!!