I don't think Luomen being turned into an Eunuch was punishment but more so cause the previous Empress Dowager probably wanted a highly talented physician in the Rear Court. I don't think many physicians are willing to become Eunuchs just to serve in the rear court
You are right. Luomen is the only doctor that can perform caesarean section when the current emperor was born by his underaged mother. But to get a man into the palace he has to be turned into an eunuch first. Thus the previous empress ordered Luomen to be an eunuch. I think it's being said in episode 12 when talking about Aduo.
You are very stuck on seeing "becoming a eunuch" as a form of punishment. While that might be true to a certain extent, here and now, it very much isn't. Maomao's dad was _rewarded_ with getting a job in the Rear Palace as an Honored Doctor for bringing medicinal knowledge back from foreign lands. He could have been a doctor in the military or anywhere else, but got the chance to be the doctor on call for the Emperor and his consorts. That's high praise. Jinshi and Gaoshun are also both supposed to be eunuchs, and they are still in high positions of power, which directly contradicts the idea that Luomen was punished. Luomen was punished with the destruction of his knee, and being exiled from the Palace.
I don't think Laomen's problem is 'not wanting Hush money' and having lots of cases where that was warranted (its not like there is an attempted murder/suicide or other 'medical' scandals to cover up every day), rather being too generous/kind-hearted and not wanting to take money for his help (even though its his profession). I get the impression he's too much of a 'do-gooder', while Mao Mao is much more pragmatic/realistic in regards to money. Cheers!
Man, I love this show. Between Apothecary & Frieren, we are good. Maomao's past seems so dark, I feel for Jinshi's naivety in that sense. I am jumping to the LN after the show ends, for sure.
I like Jinshi but he couldn't figure out how one can decrease the value of a high end courtesan? Should be a good episode next week but as a LN enjoyer it was heartbreaking as well.
If he had touched without paying for it (SA) Lakan never would have been allowed back in the pleasure district. Now, what he did was not morally upstanding but he didn't actually SA the courtesan. That effect of "I want to pin her down and take her by force" was intentional on her part. Her thing was to play the haughty "I'm too good for you. You're lucky I'm even pouring you tea" thing. She specifically wanted to frustrate her customers that way so they would pay out the nose for it. There were always servants and bodyguards. She was in no real danger. It was a mind game she pulled on Lakan. He knew what she was doing but fell for it anyway which just impressed him more. He loved it when she outsmarted him. While the country is based quite a bit on ancient China the pleasure district is based on that of Japan's old capital. Linfamy has a good video about the weird mind games couples played with each other. The "dating game".
@@alsinakiria I mean, she did get pregnant and Lakan is the father...and maumau hates him.... obviously we don't know if that's what happened but it was strongly implied both by the imagery and the idea that virgin courtesans would be worth more
I dunno, making Luomen a eunuch as a requirement for studying in the West seems like a prudent course of action, in some ways. Like, who knows what kind of icky venereal diseases they had over there?
Maomao and Jinshi date? Jinshi revealed as a strong swordsman warrior who served or trained with the Army. He also seems to an agent investigating conspiracies intel type do more than Rear Palace admin and tester. Maoma’s Dad (officially adopted) was a medical genius who studied in the West (Arab countries or Europe), was forced into the Rear Palace and made a Eunuch by previous Dowager Empress or current Emperor grandmother. Lakan, her apparent genetic father, made the courtesan he was interested in pregnant dropping value to zero. Her mother chose to bring the pregnancy to term keeping Maomao. Lakan does not seem to value Maomao’s mother Chasity or Pregnancy but rather her genius, skill, pride, talents, maybe looks, … so some tragedy messed things up and Laken has to atone. Maomao does not hate Lakan, but neither does she harbor any affection and wants to avoid him. I suspect the brothel family helped Maomao avoid him. Jinshi is trying to learn about Maomao to close the distance between them and she will answer his questions due to their relative status. Maomao has a bit of curiosity about Jinshi but will not ask and he will not volunteer guaranteeing the distance between them will not narrow. The Gaoshun and Suiren curious dialog about Jinshi’s childhood toys and his obsession with them seems out of place. Will a bit revealing of Jinshi character it seems weak. I suspect foreshadowing again.
Minor spoilers here : . . . . . Suiren is the current emperor's grandmother, MaoMao was wearing the empress regnant clothes; Also, suiren ships them, and thinks jinshi is dense
Really? I read that.. (Spoilers) . . . . . Suiren was the wet nurse for current emperor and ah Duo, and she's also ah duo's mother, making Jinshi her grandson
My biggest problem with this is the fact that he asked her in the middle of the street. If he had asked in his office I don't think it would have been as bad.
Oh please. Surely Jinshi will explain his reason for asking that question immediately next episode and Maomao will reply along of the lines of "Oh, that makes sense to ask. Alright then." and everything will be fine~~
I get it, it's a comedy of errors, you must have misunderstandings that need to be cleared up LATER for the comedy and drama to work. You can't just tell Maomao that Jinshi's not a eunuch or the reasons why- that's a big big punchline we're still working towards/ But in this case, I just don't like it. He was told to ask about it but there's no reason he has to keep secret why he's asking. He may not want to name names but I heard the simple moment he passed up. He asked the question and Maomao answers "That's an unpleasant question" --THERE! RIGHT THERE! all he had to say was "It was posed to me by an unpleasant person" - Off the hook. But no, the story has to drag it out.
Jeez could you exaggerate any more the situation. It so far was a simple unpleasant question she answered. I can't believe u didn't think/say pregnancy in the previous episodes, I thought it was obvious and didn't want to say anything. This show and frieren u can't predict to save your life, but that's alright.
Jinshi does not understand women and he won't figure it out anytime soon.
I don't think Luomen being turned into an Eunuch was punishment but more so cause the previous Empress Dowager probably wanted a highly talented physician in the Rear Court. I don't think many physicians are willing to become Eunuchs just to serve in the rear court
You are right. Luomen is the only doctor that can perform caesarean section when the current emperor was born by his underaged mother. But to get a man into the palace he has to be turned into an eunuch first. Thus the previous empress ordered Luomen to be an eunuch. I think it's being said in episode 12 when talking about Aduo.
You are very stuck on seeing "becoming a eunuch" as a form of punishment. While that might be true to a certain extent, here and now, it very much isn't. Maomao's dad was _rewarded_ with getting a job in the Rear Palace as an Honored Doctor for bringing medicinal knowledge back from foreign lands. He could have been a doctor in the military or anywhere else, but got the chance to be the doctor on call for the Emperor and his consorts. That's high praise.
Jinshi and Gaoshun are also both supposed to be eunuchs, and they are still in high positions of power, which directly contradicts the idea that Luomen was punished. Luomen was punished with the destruction of his knee, and being exiled from the Palace.
I don't think Laomen's problem is 'not wanting Hush money' and having lots of cases where that was warranted (its not like there is an attempted murder/suicide or other 'medical' scandals to cover up every day), rather being too generous/kind-hearted and not wanting to take money for his help (even though its his profession). I get the impression he's too much of a 'do-gooder', while Mao Mao is much more pragmatic/realistic in regards to money.
Cheers!
Man, I love this show. Between Apothecary & Frieren, we are good.
Maomao's past seems so dark, I feel for Jinshi's naivety in that sense.
I am jumping to the LN after the show ends, for sure.
There is a saying "It takes a man to be best girl"
I'm just gonna say this: Lakan's family have Luck stat at 1, and probably hereditary too... But they do make it up having INT at max level.
Ahh, so they would make good Lancers.
Jinshi so should've asked it in a different way!!! "How is the value of a courtesan determined?" would've been better!!!
I like Jinshi but he couldn't figure out how one can decrease the value of a high end courtesan? Should be a good episode next week but as a LN enjoyer it was heartbreaking as well.
TBF I think Maomao took that question a lot better than I was expecting.
She looked pretty angry though. Her eyes looked cold as heck.
@@1idd0kun The topic was serious though
Oh, definitely angry, yes. But still better than I was expecting.
So...how is SA not the first thought as to how Launman got maumaus mom pregnant? Especially with the broken flower imagery?
lauman is a enunuch .. he cant make mao mom pregnant
If he had touched without paying for it (SA) Lakan never would have been allowed back in the pleasure district. Now, what he did was not morally upstanding but he didn't actually SA the courtesan. That effect of "I want to pin her down and take her by force" was intentional on her part. Her thing was to play the haughty "I'm too good for you. You're lucky I'm even pouring you tea" thing. She specifically wanted to frustrate her customers that way so they would pay out the nose for it. There were always servants and bodyguards. She was in no real danger. It was a mind game she pulled on Lakan. He knew what she was doing but fell for it anyway which just impressed him more. He loved it when she outsmarted him.
While the country is based quite a bit on ancient China the pleasure district is based on that of Japan's old capital. Linfamy has a good video about the weird mind games couples played with each other. The "dating game".
@@alsinakiria I mean, she did get pregnant and Lakan is the father...and maumau hates him.... obviously we don't know if that's what happened but it was strongly implied both by the imagery and the idea that virgin courtesans would be worth more
we have only 7 episodes remaining.
i really want more of maomao
I appreciate what you do
I dunno, making Luomen a eunuch as a requirement for studying in the West seems like a prudent course of action, in some ways. Like, who knows what kind of icky venereal diseases they had over there?
Maomao and Jinshi date?
Jinshi revealed as a strong swordsman warrior who served or trained with the Army. He also seems to an agent investigating conspiracies intel type do more than Rear Palace admin and tester.
Maoma’s Dad (officially adopted) was a medical genius who studied in the West (Arab countries or Europe), was forced into the Rear Palace and made a Eunuch by previous Dowager Empress or current Emperor grandmother.
Lakan, her apparent genetic father, made the courtesan he was interested in pregnant dropping value to zero. Her mother chose to bring the pregnancy to term keeping Maomao. Lakan does not seem to value Maomao’s mother Chasity or Pregnancy but rather her genius, skill, pride, talents, maybe looks, … so some tragedy messed things up and Laken has to atone. Maomao does not hate Lakan, but neither does she harbor any affection and wants to avoid him. I suspect the brothel family helped Maomao avoid him.
Jinshi is trying to learn about Maomao to close the distance between them and she will answer his questions due to their relative status. Maomao has a bit of curiosity about Jinshi but will not ask and he will not volunteer guaranteeing the distance between them will not narrow.
The Gaoshun and Suiren curious dialog about Jinshi’s childhood toys and his obsession with them seems out of place. Will a bit revealing of Jinshi character it seems weak. I suspect foreshadowing again.
Minor spoilers here :
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Suiren is the current emperor's grandmother, MaoMao was wearing the empress regnant clothes; Also, suiren ships them, and thinks jinshi is dense
Really? I read that..
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Suiren was the wet nurse for current emperor and ah Duo, and she's also ah duo's mother, making Jinshi her grandson
@@jangjangjangjong yep, this is the right one
My biggest problem with this is the fact that he asked her in the middle of the street. If he had asked in his office I don't think it would have been as bad.
Oh please. Surely Jinshi will explain his reason for asking that question immediately next episode and Maomao will reply along of the lines of "Oh, that makes sense to ask. Alright then." and everything will be fine~~
3:20 Just saying, but the Pregnancy part applies on not just High Class Courtesan, but also on the Low Class ones.
I get it, it's a comedy of errors, you must have misunderstandings that need to be cleared up LATER for the comedy and drama to work. You can't just tell Maomao that Jinshi's not a eunuch or the reasons why- that's a big big punchline we're still working towards/ But in this case, I just don't like it. He was told to ask about it but there's no reason he has to keep secret why he's asking. He may not want to name names but I heard the simple moment he passed up. He asked the question and Maomao answers "That's an unpleasant question" --THERE! RIGHT THERE! all he had to say was "It was posed to me by an unpleasant person" - Off the hook. But no, the story has to drag it out.
It's not so much that, Mao Mao is just in denial. Not even a frog would bring her out of her denial
what i wanna know is why he is interested in knowing how to devalue a courtesan i remember the other old dude mention that but i wanna no why.
at this point you miss all the marks
My questions is: why take a walk with Mao Mao to make this kind of question for her ? Could he ask her about courtesan is his property ?
It sounds like you are commenting on the show based upon the anime only without having read ahead in the online manga.
You should watch heaven officials blessing
I said it before and ill say it again, Lakan gives me Lannister vibes 🤢
Jeez could you exaggerate any more the situation. It so far was a simple unpleasant question she answered. I can't believe u didn't think/say pregnancy in the previous episodes, I thought it was obvious and didn't want to say anything. This show and frieren u can't predict to save your life, but that's alright.
Yeah, he likes to wonder some places xD
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