@@jasonwood1434 equipment has come a long ways in the last 17 years. A nice low ENB Wing has the performance nowadays of what used to be a ENC wing. Just be sure to get good instruction, study study study, spend a lot of time ground handling, and progress at your own pace Don't be pushed into doing too much too soon
@NelsonsWings fair comments. Am watching almost only paragliding vids now. Just want to school up as much as possible b4 flight. Did some GHS few days ago. Rusty......
@@MitchG Hopefully the Air Design Sock I'm getting on Friday Will be more stable. It's supposed to come in as more stable than the Woody Valley GTO lite 2, but not as stable as the Sup'Air Delight 4.
Another awesome video. What are your thoughts on the launch/landing and overall flight demands Vs. the Delta/Alpina series? I've flown the Alpina 3 for 2 seasons and am either going with the new Ozone Delta/Alpina 5 when released next year or get a Photon or Lyght. Thanks for your thoughts!
@@dmshanks1 Thanks for watching, that's a great question. It's one that I think about a lot. By the way I am putting the finishing touches on my first impressions video. Any wing with an aspect ratio of 6.5, is going to be harder to launch than an aspect ratio 6 wing. Both the Lyght and the Photon require noticeably more wrangling and kiting skills at launch than does the Alpina/Delta. That can be a challenge if the launch is tight, snaggy, Rocky, committing such as a cliff launch, narrow with trees on either side, things like that. That's one of the reasons why I have more than one wing, I like having a low B and a high B also specifically for tough launches. Once you are in the air, if you are comfortable with the Alpina/Delta, you'll be fine on the ozone two line wings. They're solid, they fly well. They're not as snappy and responsive in turns as the Alpina, But that also is largely a function of the fact that they're skinnier. Skinnier wings don't turn as tight or as easily as fatter wings, generally speaking. I am interested in the Alpina 5. Now that I am retired and on a fixed income, I have less money to spend on wings. I'll probably be selling my photon if it looks like my weight is going to be stable at the lower level it's at right now. The only way I could fly my photon right now is if I get a big heavy comp harness! I'm not sure if you saw Ziad's interview with Luc, But it sounds like the A5 is going to be a very interesting wing.
@@NelsonsWings Thanks very much for the detailed reply. I do so love the snappy handling of the Alpina, but there's gonna be tradeoffs, I am expecting that. Better glide than an Alpina means skinnier wings, not as snappy :) I ended up purchasing the Photon just this evening, so I have a new wing to get used to and a fun season to look forward to. Keep up the great work with your Channel!
@@dmshanks1 You will love the photon. The glide seductive. It's a very solid wing. I recommend though that you don't fly it in really big turbulent air until you used to it. If it does blow up on you, it's going to require a lot more precise responses to prevent it from getting a cravat, and winding up on you with a cascade. I've had no problem with mine, but I only fly mornings up until about 10:00 11:00 maybe if I was in Columbia, and afternoons within about 3 or 4 hours of sunset.
Hi, thanks for the great video. I fly Swift 6 and am interested buying Lyght. I have a problem with my shoulder and I would like to ask if you could tell me what the difference in brake pressure is between the Swift 6 and the Lyght. Lyght really has much heavier brakes? Thanks for the reply.
@@dejanschw Thanks for watching great question. Until very recently, I also flew a Swift 6. Because I've lost weight, I had to sell the S6 because I was underneath the weight range for the medium large. I already miss that wing! You may have seen the video I posted recently where I got to 12,600 ft on my Swift 6. I have problems with my rotator cuffs on both of my shoulders. The Lyght does not need more force on the brakes, just more brake travel. It turns fine with weight shift and a bit more brake travel. I fly with a half wrap and I find that most of the time in a thermal, my inside hand is not lower than the carabiner. When I need to rest my shoulders, the B riser handles are nice, slightly less comfortable than the active control risers on the Swift but only because they're a little bit higher up. However, you can adjust the position of the B riser handles on the Lyght. I now have about 12 flights on the Lyght And we'll be doing a first impressions video sometime next week. FYI I sold the Bogdanfly after the 1st 2 flights, I bought an Air Design Sock, which is more stable but slightly less comfortable.
I have the Sock and fly it with my Alpina 4. It’s a nice combo. The Sock has a few niggles but I find it’s worth putting up with those. I get a bit of a numb bum after 4 hours in the air. If you leave the filler tube closure clip exposed (I like to for top ups or changing pressure in the air bag) you can knock it open in flight or more likely when ground handling. I’ve had the speed system line get caught under the Velcro for the reserve zip on a few occasions - I’m still planing on buying some thicker line. The thin line can mark the harness fabric along the seat rods. Now I’ve got used to it, stability wise it’s slightly more roll unstable than my Delight 3 - but I now prefer the extra weight shift authority. I find my Alpina 4 becomes a bit more stable with just a touch of bar so I’ll often fly it like that when I’m not thermalling - glides slightly better too as I think it cuts through bumps without needing to manage pitch so much. Lyght could be my next wing - or Photon 2 whenever that comes out. At 270 hours and a line change, Alpina 4 still feels like new - still love it. I like the look of the long brake keepers on the Lyght. I reckon those will be really handy for tunimg the turn by choosing to action the tip for quicker turning - or the inside for flatter turning. Many happy flights !
@@7up-weee Wow Thanks for the detailed and informative comment! I flew my Alpina 4 for nearly two years before I sold it to help finance my Photon. One of my favorite wings of all time, and definitely more nimble and in some ways fun to fly than the Photon. But the photon and also the Lyght have such a seductive glide, and a feeling of solidity in turbulence, that I put up with the more dampened handling. Thank you for those tips regarding the sock. The numbness you mentioned, does that come from it squeezing your hips? I was thinking that I might want to try modifying mine after I've flown it for a while and add a seaboard. It would be a fairly straightforward modification and might help make it pinch me less on the hips. Also a good tip regarding the filler tube clip. I'm somewhat suspicious of clips for sealing air tubes, I was thinking about finding a rubber fitting that would just go in the end of the tube to prevent the inflatable protection from deflating.
@@NelsonsWingsthanks for the info on the photon and lyght! I am seeking that extra glide performance too - let’s see. The Sock doesn’t pinch - it’s just from sitting on the inflated airbag for so long. Similar to sitting on the side of an inflatable boat for hours on end 😂. I think a bit of foam could improve things. With the inflation tube, I just bend the tube over now and tuck it back under the clip. Seems to work and allows me to top up or let air out when I have a hand free. I’ve put ripstop tape where the speed system line rubs the material - but I’m definitely going to get thicker line
@@RichardBojorquez-sc6kk Thanks for watching and the kind words! If you live in San Bernardino you are pretty much at the center of the Southern California Universe for paragliding. Look for Andy Jackson Airpark on Google or Apple maps. There are at least four instructors that operate out of that facility. You should have about $8,000 you don't know what to do with before you even consider getting into paragliding. I would encourage you not to buy any equipment until after you've completed your basic P2 training course. Also, don't just automatically buy whatever the instructor recommends. There's nothing wrong with sending some business towards the instructor, they make most of their money selling gear, but you should talk to other pilots and make sure you make an informed choice before you shell out $5,000 for a wing and a harness and a reserve parachute. More information can be found here crestlinesoaring.org/
Why is the reserve container not centered? Why aren't the reserve handle ends tucked in? The Lyght launches so easy! You're such a poet! Stuck the landing!!
@@ripmanridin7092 The reserve nylon rods are not tucked in because I failed to read the manual fully and didn't tuck them into the little receivers. 🤪 As far as it being over to the right, I see that on other harnesses too, even on some RXA3 harnesses. I think it's because the material is not stretchy, it's not lycra, so the only way to get the flight deck and harness centered would be to shorten the left hand pod adjustment so short so that when you step on the pod strongly on the left side, it would pull it over. The trouble with that, is that it would also tighten the distance between the carabiners. My best guess is that some sort of a design flaw, I haven't been able to get the manufacturer to respond to my increase about the non-centered reserve/flight deck.
hey my Lyght is supposed to arrive tomorrow. I'm selling my Alpina 4 and Im currently on WV Xalps lite2. I also do have a Bogdan Fly Pizza Race. I used to have cocon v1. PIzza Race at 990g is crazy light and it's not roll stable either but I kind of like it. the only downside is despite the big fairing the storage space isn't great, worse than cocon V1.
That's great news! I'm also very interested in pilots that don't mind harnesses that are twitchy and roll a lot. Perhaps you're just less fearful than I am, when I'm getting tossed around a lot in the air, it makes it hard to enjoy the flight. It also makes it hard to stay weight shifted in a turn if I keep getting pitched to the outside as the harness rolls. Can you comment on that? I'm genuinely curious how you deal with being pitched to the outside when you're trying to stay weight shifted to the inside in a thermal.
@@NelsonsWings so i have my Swift 5 paired with ozium 2 harness or the bogdan pizza race, I swap those 2 out depending on how light I want to be. I do get tossed a bit more in my BF pizza when i'm in turbulent air but i don't mind it too much as it's just a high B wing so even if i have a collapse it's nothing bad. As for thermalling, if im in a strong thermal and banking/weight shifting steeply then i don't feel that i get tossed around much. it's more of an issue if i'm in a weak lift and trying to stay flat that there is a bit more of a wobble that i have to correct for. all my pods (ozium 2, BF pizza, WV xalps lite 2) are light weigh pods with no seatboard so perhaps im just more used to that kind of flying.
@@alexsakon thank you for those details. I have some more questions. Where do you fly? Are you flying in sharp thrashy thermals like we have here in the desert Southwest or San Bernardino on hot high pressure days? Are you flying in midday air? Regarding not getting rolled out of your weight shift when you're turning in a thermal, I had never experienced that before I flew the BF V 2.1. I could be strongly weight shifted for example to the left, turning at about one 360 every 15 seconds, and I would hit something that would just roll me all the way to the right - It would actually break my turn, and I'd have to reestablish the turn to the left. I didn't show any of that in the video, because I'm trying to be nice to Bogdan. 😆
@@Ram3log I really need to make a trip across the Atlantic. If it doesn't happen next summer it might never happen because at my age my skills are failing rapidly and so is my money.
There's lots of different brands of variometers, And many of them have different sounds and perhaps aren't so harsh. I have the volume on mine up all the way. Thank you for reminding me though I'm going to lower the frequency on mine I think it's a little bit too high-pitched. But you're right, it's a super happy sound when the video is screaming louder and louder it means you're climbing faster and faster. If I was a entrepreneur, and I lived in an area near a popular paragliding site where lots of pilots flew, I would open up a bar or a pub nearby, and call it "The Happy Vario"
Im just looking at flying again after 17 years,, man, what a vid!!!!! Just confirms the kick i need.,Cheers.
@@jasonwood1434 equipment has come a long ways in the last 17 years. A nice low ENB Wing has the performance nowadays of what used to be a ENC wing. Just be sure to get good instruction, study study study, spend a lot of time ground handling, and progress at your own pace Don't be pushed into doing too much too soon
@NelsonsWings fair comments. Am watching almost only paragliding vids now. Just want to school up as much as possible b4 flight. Did some GHS few days ago. Rusty......
@@jasonwood1434 I recommend a subscription to Cross Country Magazine xcmag.com , also listen to Gavin McClurg's podcast cloudbasemayhem.com
This looks great and thank you for posting this entertaining video. What's even better is you didn't use a drop of gas.
Outstanding!! Great color choice
Love the new harness and MS 2 liner! I wanted a Bogdanfly harness but I do prefer a stable harness so thank you for sharing that info.
@@MitchG Hopefully the Air Design Sock I'm getting on Friday Will be more stable. It's supposed to come in as more stable than the Woody Valley GTO lite 2, but not as stable as the Sup'Air Delight 4.
Poetry and flight, that's a new thing 😊
@@carlcolorado3549 LOL, well I guess a limerick does count as poetry. I'm not sure why that one popped into my head. Thanks for noticing that detail!
Another awesome video. What are your thoughts on the launch/landing and overall flight demands Vs. the Delta/Alpina series? I've flown the Alpina 3 for 2 seasons and am either going with the new Ozone Delta/Alpina 5 when released next year or get a Photon or Lyght. Thanks for your thoughts!
@@dmshanks1 Thanks for watching, that's a great question. It's one that I think about a lot. By the way I am putting the finishing touches on my first impressions video.
Any wing with an aspect ratio of 6.5, is going to be harder to launch than an aspect ratio 6 wing. Both the Lyght and the Photon require noticeably more wrangling and kiting skills at launch than does the Alpina/Delta. That can be a challenge if the launch is tight, snaggy, Rocky, committing such as a cliff launch, narrow with trees on either side, things like that. That's one of the reasons why I have more than one wing, I like having a low B and a high B also specifically for tough launches.
Once you are in the air, if you are comfortable with the Alpina/Delta, you'll be fine on the ozone two line wings. They're solid, they fly well. They're not as snappy and responsive in turns as the Alpina, But that also is largely a function of the fact that they're skinnier. Skinnier wings don't turn as tight or as easily as fatter wings, generally speaking.
I am interested in the Alpina 5. Now that I am retired and on a fixed income, I have less money to spend on wings. I'll probably be selling my photon if it looks like my weight is going to be stable at the lower level it's at right now. The only way I could fly my photon right now is if I get a big heavy comp harness!
I'm not sure if you saw Ziad's interview with Luc, But it sounds like the A5 is going to be a very interesting wing.
@@NelsonsWings Thanks very much for the detailed reply. I do so love the snappy handling of the Alpina, but there's gonna be tradeoffs, I am expecting that. Better glide than an Alpina means skinnier wings, not as snappy :) I ended up purchasing the Photon just this evening, so I have a new wing to get used to and a fun season to look forward to. Keep up the great work with your Channel!
@@dmshanks1 You will love the photon. The glide seductive. It's a very solid wing. I recommend though that you don't fly it in really big turbulent air until you used to it. If it does blow up on you, it's going to require a lot more precise responses to prevent it from getting a cravat, and winding up on you with a cascade. I've had no problem with mine, but I only fly mornings up until about 10:00 11:00 maybe if I was in Columbia, and afternoons within about 3 or 4 hours of sunset.
@@NelsonsWingsI will take that great advice.
Nice flight. I’ve been talking about heading down to SoCal for some flying for 4 years lol, I’ll get there some day.
I love that color!
The Bogdon material looks like it would have been great for Southern NM environment.
@@normbloom3772 I'm sad I didn't get to keep the BF V2. 1 . Not many harness manufacturers allow you to choose custom colors.
Hi, thanks for the great video. I fly Swift 6 and am interested buying Lyght. I have a problem with my shoulder and I would like to ask if you could tell me what the difference in brake pressure is between the Swift 6 and the Lyght. Lyght really has much heavier brakes? Thanks for the reply.
@@dejanschw Thanks for watching great question. Until very recently, I also flew a Swift 6. Because I've lost weight, I had to sell the S6 because I was underneath the weight range for the medium large. I already miss that wing! You may have seen the video I posted recently where I got to 12,600 ft on my Swift 6.
I have problems with my rotator cuffs on both of my shoulders. The Lyght does not need more force on the brakes, just more brake travel. It turns fine with weight shift and a bit more brake travel. I fly with a half wrap and I find that most of the time in a thermal, my inside hand is not lower than the carabiner. When I need to rest my shoulders, the B riser handles are nice, slightly less comfortable than the active control risers on the Swift but only because they're a little bit higher up. However, you can adjust the position of the B riser handles on the Lyght.
I now have about 12 flights on the Lyght And we'll be doing a first impressions video sometime next week. FYI I sold the Bogdanfly after the 1st 2 flights, I bought an Air Design Sock, which is more stable but slightly less comfortable.
I have the Sock and fly it with my Alpina 4. It’s a nice combo. The Sock has a few niggles but I find it’s worth putting up with those. I get a bit of a numb bum after 4 hours in the air. If you leave the filler tube closure clip exposed (I like to for top ups or changing pressure in the air bag) you can knock it open in flight or more likely when ground handling. I’ve had the speed system line get caught under the Velcro for the reserve zip on a few occasions - I’m still planing on buying some thicker line. The thin line can mark the harness fabric along the seat rods. Now I’ve got used to it, stability wise it’s slightly more roll unstable than my Delight 3 - but I now prefer the extra weight shift authority.
I find my Alpina 4 becomes a bit more stable with just a touch of bar so I’ll often fly it like that when I’m not thermalling - glides slightly better too as I think it cuts through bumps without needing to manage pitch so much.
Lyght could be my next wing - or Photon 2 whenever that comes out. At 270 hours and a line change, Alpina 4 still feels like new - still love it.
I like the look of the long brake keepers on the Lyght. I reckon those will be really handy for tunimg the turn by choosing to action the tip for quicker turning - or the inside for flatter turning.
Many happy flights !
@@7up-weee Wow Thanks for the detailed and informative comment! I flew my Alpina 4 for nearly two years before I sold it to help finance my Photon. One of my favorite wings of all time, and definitely more nimble and in some ways fun to fly than the Photon. But the photon and also the Lyght have such a seductive glide, and a feeling of solidity in turbulence, that I put up with the more dampened handling.
Thank you for those tips regarding the sock. The numbness you mentioned, does that come from it squeezing your hips? I was thinking that I might want to try modifying mine after I've flown it for a while and add a seaboard. It would be a fairly straightforward modification and might help make it pinch me less on the hips.
Also a good tip regarding the filler tube clip. I'm somewhat suspicious of clips for sealing air tubes, I was thinking about finding a rubber fitting that would just go in the end of the tube to prevent the inflatable protection from deflating.
@@NelsonsWingsthanks for the info on the photon and lyght! I am seeking that extra glide performance too - let’s see.
The Sock doesn’t pinch - it’s just from sitting on the inflated airbag for so long. Similar to sitting on the side of an inflatable boat for hours on end 😂. I think a bit of foam could improve things.
With the inflation tube, I just bend the tube over now and tuck it back under the clip. Seems to work and allows me to top up or let air out when I have a hand free. I’ve put ripstop tape where the speed system line rubs the material - but I’m definitely going to get thicker line
This is awesome. Where do i go for training. I live near San Bernardino.
@@RichardBojorquez-sc6kk Thanks for watching and the kind words! If you live in San Bernardino you are pretty much at the center of the Southern California Universe for paragliding. Look for Andy Jackson Airpark on Google or Apple maps. There are at least four instructors that operate out of that facility. You should have about $8,000 you don't know what to do with before you even consider getting into paragliding. I would encourage you not to buy any equipment until after you've completed your basic P2 training course. Also, don't just automatically buy whatever the instructor recommends. There's nothing wrong with sending some business towards the instructor, they make most of their money selling gear, but you should talk to other pilots and make sure you make an informed choice before you shell out $5,000 for a wing and a harness and a reserve parachute.
More information can be found here
crestlinesoaring.org/
beautifull wing ,how it behave in partial front collapse with the intake holes so far back ?
On the Bogdan V2.1 the reserve container has some extra channels to stow the end of plastic rods, FYI
@@Florian24 LOL yes I realized that after I carefully read the user manual!
Why is the reserve container not centered? Why aren't the reserve handle ends tucked in?
The Lyght launches so easy! You're such a poet! Stuck the landing!!
@@ripmanridin7092 The reserve nylon rods are not tucked in because I failed to read the manual fully and didn't tuck them into the little receivers. 🤪
As far as it being over to the right, I see that on other harnesses too, even on some RXA3 harnesses. I think it's because the material is not stretchy, it's not lycra, so the only way to get the flight deck and harness centered would be to shorten the left hand pod adjustment so short so that when you step on the pod strongly on the left side, it would pull it over. The trouble with that, is that it would also tighten the distance between the carabiners. My best guess is that some sort of a design flaw, I haven't been able to get the manufacturer to respond to my increase about the non-centered reserve/flight deck.
As if Bumps and Whiskies aren't poetic words in their own right
hey my Lyght is supposed to arrive tomorrow. I'm selling my Alpina 4 and Im currently on WV Xalps lite2. I also do have a Bogdan Fly Pizza Race. I used to have cocon v1. PIzza Race at 990g is crazy light and it's not roll stable either but I kind of like it. the only downside is despite the big fairing the storage space isn't great, worse than cocon V1.
That's great news! I'm also very interested in pilots that don't mind harnesses that are twitchy and roll a lot. Perhaps you're just less fearful than I am, when I'm getting tossed around a lot in the air, it makes it hard to enjoy the flight. It also makes it hard to stay weight shifted in a turn if I keep getting pitched to the outside as the harness rolls. Can you comment on that? I'm genuinely curious how you deal with being pitched to the outside when you're trying to stay weight shifted to the inside in a thermal.
@@NelsonsWings so i have my Swift 5 paired with ozium 2 harness or the bogdan pizza race, I swap those 2 out depending on how light I want to be. I do get tossed a bit more in my BF pizza when i'm in turbulent air but i don't mind it too much as it's just a high B wing so even if i have a collapse it's nothing bad. As for thermalling, if im in a strong thermal and banking/weight shifting steeply then i don't feel that i get tossed around much. it's more of an issue if i'm in a weak lift and trying to stay flat that there is a bit more of a wobble that i have to correct for. all my pods (ozium 2, BF pizza, WV xalps lite 2) are light weigh pods with no seatboard so perhaps im just more used to that kind of flying.
@@alexsakon thank you for those details. I have some more questions. Where do you fly? Are you flying in sharp thrashy thermals like we have here in the desert Southwest or San Bernardino on hot high pressure days? Are you flying in midday air?
Regarding not getting rolled out of your weight shift when you're turning in a thermal, I had never experienced that before I flew the BF V 2.1. I could be strongly weight shifted for example to the left, turning at about one 360 every 15 seconds, and I would hit something that would just roll me all the way to the right - It would actually break my turn, and I'd have to reestablish the turn to the left.
I didn't show any of that in the video, because I'm trying to be nice to Bogdan. 😆
Someday, we will definitely fly together near the clouds :-)
@@Ram3log I really need to make a trip across the Atlantic. If it doesn't happen next summer it might never happen because at my age my skills are failing rapidly and so is my money.
@@NelsonsWings I believe in you! Spit on the surrounding clumsiness!
@@NelsonsWings Sorry for the translation, but let's move forward and together! )
Looks quite roll unstable, but its probably the harness.
I don't do this but I'd imagine the best sound you want to hear is that beeping. However, that would drive me nuts so I'd never make it in this sport
There's lots of different brands of variometers, And many of them have different sounds and perhaps aren't so harsh. I have the volume on mine up all the way. Thank you for reminding me though I'm going to lower the frequency on mine I think it's a little bit too high-pitched.
But you're right, it's a super happy sound when the video is screaming louder and louder it means you're climbing faster and faster.
If I was a entrepreneur, and I lived in an area near a popular paragliding site where lots of pilots flew, I would open up a bar or a pub nearby, and call it "The Happy Vario"
I can never decide if limericks are cultural appropriation of the worst kind, or the musings of highly motivated potato blight refugees.