You the top dog of what s called a Fire Team when you are a Corporal right. Like a three - Four men Recon team plus you? Heard that was did a lot in the Gulf War up until Bosina/ Kosovo buy the Us military
lol I remember going to jump school as a young corporal in the Corps. No drinking policy but I remember buying my whole squad bay a few handles of vodka and setting up this privates projector. Good times. Yes jump masters, I am slick and you never caught me, you sure came close though.
Was promoted in the US Army as a Corporal after Airborne School. Lots of responsibilities. Led two Soldiers during Hurricane Andrews in Helmsted, FL. Felt really GREAT assisting and protecting civilians in the areas.
That's actually serving our country. Much respect. No respect given to "soldiers" who go off on some government tangent and kill random people overseas they've never met. You really did protect us.
I was a Corporal and I hated it. I also realized people’s true colors when I got the rank, too. NCOs loved giving me the shit details and shitty soldiers to be in charge of, and some of (whom I thought were) my friends quickly had issues with authority. Fortunately for me, I made Sergeant and PCSd to a better unit.
Bro how does all that shit work man y’all make this shot sound interesting af love the men and woman who serve not so much the leaders in charge god bless
Was my favorite rank in the Marines. Got to do a lot of the fun stuff, passed off a lot of the BS to my Lance Criminals and PFC's. All the fun stuff disappeared at Sgt.
@@StudleyDuderight two opponents facing eachother with at least overall same capabilities, examples peer conflicts like WWII or near peer like parts of Vietnam war, Korean war and Ukraine war. Then there's stuff like Georgian war and gulf wars that are against opponents so vastly inferior that it's over so fast. Then there's stuff like Chechen war and Afghanistan war or post Iraq war Iraq that's just insurgency
My units chaplain is a major and I was a lcpl, he would always sit and eat with us during mess and pray for us, I’m not religious but best experience ever
@@bangochupchup Australia is slightly different, he had 1 crown which makes him a major, joked with him back in the Korean War he probably fought against my chinese grandpa whom was a captain and he was a private, by the time I got my australia discharge papers I was senior nco, world is getting really small
I'd always get a kick out of the semi-sarcastic respect I'd give to soldiers I knew who made CPL. I'd lock it up tighter talking to them then my 1stSGT and only ever address them as "corporal".
There were two kinds of Corporals in the 1980s. One was a Department of the Army Corporal. The orders were issued by the DA for promotion. The rank would stay with the soldier during a duty change. The other was a temporary promotion of an E4 who was in a Team Leader slot for more than 60 days. The Battalion commander had promotion authority The moment the soldier was moved to a non leadership duty position, they reverted to a Specialist. Either way glad a I went straight from E4 Specialist to E5. Corporals because they technically "leaders" cant hang out with their buddies or the can get fraternization charges. And Sergeants dont want them around. I agree worst rank to be in the Army.
LOL as 11B1P in the 82nd Replacement Detachment, saw a Corporal who transferring into the 82nd Airborne that there were no Corporals in Division. Never saw a Corporal mugging around in the 82nd Airborne, but I saw plenty of Specialist who served as Team Leaders until they got to BLC back in the late 1980's.
I would say its one of the cooler ranks. Who said you only had to choose your buddies or the officers. Get in good with both and you increase your chances of opportunities and relationships. Connections are very important. (Edit- last sentence added)
When I was on active duty the promotion points were maxed out, so I was stuck in a long line of people who were waiting for promotion to E5. Our company needed NCOs to fill Team Leader slots, so I got promoted to Corporal to fill that slot. Funny how the Army had "too many Sergeants", while having a shortage of Sergeants.🙄 I didn't understand it then, and I don't understand it now. ✌️❤️
The biggest difference between cpl and sgt is promotion points. With enough promotion points you can go from spc to sgt (or in most cases to cpl as a placeholder until you get promoted to sgt). But for the ones who don't have the promotion points they have to frantically scramble to get the promotion points to hit e5
As of 2021 In the Army you get Corporal after completing BLC. BLC is a requirement for E5. So an easy way to tell the difference between a Specialist and Corporal, one is promotable the other is not. The Corporal is also officially a junior NCO, the Specialist isn't.
I was a corporal I liked the rank. How I became cpl was my first Sgt was walking around with pin on ranks in his hand. He stopped looked at for a second and handed my a set of cpl pins and said " go see the company clerk" and that's how I became a cpl.
In the Marine Corps in the 80s when I got promoted to CPL I could go to the NCO/officer line in the chow hall and to the NCO club on base …. Different times… they were better
My great grandpa was corporal rank in WW2, he fought in the Battle of the Bulge as a private but because of some acts if bravery or something (I can't remember exactly) and was then promoted Edit: now that I think about it, some of his other squadmates might've gotten killed and so he was promoted by default
The corporal, dismissed most often, but never forget the corporal who changed the world forever and insights soo much emotion from everyone. If you do things might repeat itself again.
@@pavelthefabulous5675 He was a runner in the Infantry, carrying messages and orders at the front, not a mail clerk. He was actually wounded doing that job. He didn't have anything to to do with the mail, so stop vilifying mail clerks. There's enough REAL history. You don't need to make stuff up.
Yep that lateral promotion sucks, all the responsibilities, without the support or pay. But even when I was retiring many were treated as PV-5 and PV-6.
Technically an E-4 becomes an NCO upon completion of PLDC. At least that was true of the Army in the 1980s. IDK what may have changed since. The USMC being much smaller, often has corporals as squad leaders and staff sergeants as Platoon sergeants.
Three days after getting pinned CPL I was placed as a section NCO in charge of 11 people, all of them my friends and all of them older than me. You talk about the most enjoyable and the most stressful job in the world. You get to be the leader to people you care about and take care of them but now you have to find that balance of “During work I’m not your friend, I’m your NCO.” Definitely had some long and stressful days. Thankfully I just made points for June.
As a specialist who had to take over as squad leader for a month, I was promoted to corporal. I did NCO things and “sat with” the NCOs. I was shortly promoted to SGT as soon as I had time in service requirements met, so it was only for a short while that I wore corporal rank.
Corporals should sit with the NCOs. You're a NCO and should start learning to behave like one. The junior enlisted are no longer your friends, they're you're subordinates. E-5 and above, you need to treat corporals with the same respect you would any other NCO.
Small quibble but it’s not “the same rank”, it’s the same pay grade. We had a split E4 pay grade in the Air Force years ago. Senior Airman (non NCO) and Sergeant (NCO, commonly referred to as Buck Sergeant). Same pay grade but as a buck you could supervise, got (usually) better posts and assignments and were clearly in the NCO ranks. Around 1991 they got rid of E4 Sergeant, E4s are strictly Senior Airmen now and you become an NCO at E5 Staff Sergeant. I worked with the Army for five years and always found the differences in the ranks, culture and procedures between the branches very interesting.
That unit patch of the bear and star bring back memories. I loaded two conex containers at the NTC and took them to Texas. They had the same picture as that patch.
In the SADF there more corporals than sargeants, corporals had their own mess. They did most of the training of our recruits. I was a lance-corporal and had a bloody nightmare dealing with the corp and sargeants. In my training squadron I don't even know if we had a lieutenant or a sargeant... never saw them if they existed, we were yelled at by everyone but those two.
@@skipdreadman8765 for all it's attempts to avoid anything English, the British military system continued in some ways in the SADF. The Afrikaaner knew it worked best here.
i hated that rank. got it in the 90's and was given all the crappy tasks. uggh. but on the good end, i had a good unit where the Specialists were all good. they looked out for me and I looked out for them. 2 hour lunches. Hooah.
I was one of those. And you're absolutely right! You don't know who you're friends are anymore. I got "Promoted " cuz I got sent to NBC School and we did not have an NBC NCO Running the room.... So, they made me corporal for like a hot minute. Got an E5 back in the room within 2 months, then I'm back to the E4 Mafia....
A corporal is an E-4 or equivalent to a 3rd Class Petty officer in the Navy. Now, I don’t know about the Army’s hierarchy, but in the Navy that is just about the perfect rank, as far as high enough not to have to do shit jobs, yet low enough to not have a bunch of responsibilities.
I see a CPL as OJT to the Sergeant rank; I wiahed I had that opportunity to be a CPL. I was a Specialist 5 with no leadership background, & was laterally promoted to Sergeant when the Army abolished all Specialist 5 & above; it was a shock to me coming from a technical rank to a leadership rank. PLDC does nothing without OJT.
It does kind of suck! I got promoted to Corporal when we were deployed and my staff sergeant missed movement! We ran a huge communication Network and so I was in charge of all day shift operations and he was to report to me the entire deployment, oh that wasn't awkward or anything!
The only benefit I had I when I was a Corporal for 2 years is I didn't get reemed has hard as SGT's did when we fucked up because most just assumed " he's learning how to be an NCO"
They wanna give you the responsibility of an NCO but not the privileges or pay. That is what it boils down to. An E-5 is up for CQ and he wants the day off, so he delegates it to the Junior NCO being a Corporal. See how that works? Been there, done that on both sides in the Army.
I was a Corporal out of RangerSchool in Nam all the senior Officer and NCOs were down Itook over command because I had command authority as a command rank! Later I wD commended on my leadership skills my father was a Master Gunnery in the USMC and N Uncle Corporal Abn Ranger! I say wherever I wanted
I was one of the LAST USAF E-4 Sergeants. I put it on in January of 1991 (the last E-4 Sgts were promoted in May 91) and got out in September of 1997. As a young (22 years old) USAF Security Police Sergeant, I lead multiple 2 man teams, 4 man Fire Teams. I was also qualified as an Area Supervisor for a Nuclear Weapons Storage Area with responsibility for the nuclear weapons, 17 Turkish airmen, and 4 other Americans.
Its not like at all in the Canadian forces. Imo the Cpl is the best rank, and the mcpl (master corporal) is the worst. And yes a navy mcpl in the Canadian navy is called a master seaman.
4 years Army J.R.O.T.C. Graduated as a Cadet First Lieutenant, 1 year Army R.O.T.C. at end up my 2nd semester I achieved the the rank of Corporal, 2 weeks later fell off a obstacle at a summer semester camp and landed on my neck from 6 feet off the ground, I was six weeks away from signing my LOI, we are soon approaching 20 years of them letting me fall into the cracks and not getting me help. the University abolished its charter and reformed under a new one with another University and I wasn't the only one who got hosed by it. I'm tired of being in pain, and being angry about this, but the pain never goes away so the anger is always in the forefront of my mind.
This happens alot when there is a critical shortage Mos and meps offers a large bonus and there is a huge influx of soldiers in that Mos who all happen to wanna make sergeant at the same time and when that happens points are so high you will never make cutoff for sergeant or you sit on a list of hundreds waiting meanwhile you are promoted to corporal more responsibility same pay as a specialist doesn't make sense but nothing about the army hence why I did my 5 years 2 deployments and got the fuck out
I know this youtuber who was an E-4, maybe he got higher, idk ranks. But he denied becoming a corporal by denying going into the course they want him to because he fixed guns.
My grandfather was an RAAF ADG in WW2. Yes I know it's airforce but it's still a combat role. They wanted to promote him to Sargent but he didn't want it
I was a Security Policeman in the USAF & stayed at E-4 Sgt because I didn't think I was Old enough for E-5 Staff Sergeant at first, but realized (especially when I got to the missile field) that I didn't want E-5, because the "FUN" would be over, and I'd have to go work in an office.
In my territory there's this derogatory term called "stucked corporal". Basically long timer that is not humble enough to act as pvt., not qualified enough to be sgt., command, ( higher officer still alive) or to quit, but act like Lt. Frat guys
In stead of making Squad Leaders rank Sergeants (later Staff Sergeant) in stead of Corporals (as you did in WW1) for the increased command and combat experience, why not have just increased promotion requirements to Corporal and keep Lance Corporal (1 shevron) and keep PFC but maybe as a horizontal bar or something?
I got lateraly promoted to corporal E-5 's and E-6's said i was an NCO, E7's said I was an E-4 but would make me the "NCO" in charge of clean up details. Fun times.
Bruh Our platoon cpl was the most goofy yet cool guy ever! Like seriously he picked me up once, spun me around and I puked a bit. He just laughed and said I was cool
I got the bullshit stripes before going to Iraq in 2003 because I got to my unit and it was at 150% so they gave me some privates right out of basic and put stripes on me and wala a whole new squad.
As a Marine, a soldier friend of mine explained that Specialists are overpaid privates and Corporals are underpaid NCOs
damn
@@Pooperz100 specialist is a time in service rank corporal is earned
You the top dog of what s called a Fire Team when you are a Corporal right. Like a three - Four men Recon team plus you? Heard that was did a lot in the Gulf War up until Bosina/ Kosovo buy the Us military
lol I remember going to jump school as a young corporal in the Corps. No drinking policy but I remember buying my whole squad bay a few handles of vodka and setting up this privates projector. Good times. Yes jump masters, I am slick and you never caught me, you sure came close though.
As a military brat I'd rather be a specialist 🤣 I haven't had a lot of good run ins with a corporal and I was a kid🤣🤣🤣
Was promoted in the US Army as a Corporal after Airborne School. Lots of responsibilities. Led two Soldiers during Hurricane Andrews in Helmsted, FL. Felt really GREAT assisting and protecting civilians in the areas.
That's actually serving our country. Much respect. No respect given to "soldiers" who go off on some government tangent and kill random people overseas they've never met. You really did protect us.
Ok POG
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Thank you for everything you do bro. Our freedom and safety is built off the backs of heros like you. Thanks!
@@bldontmatter5319i still respect them
That was my last rank. You get all the responsibility of a Sargent with no respect. Like the Rodney Dangerfield of your platoon.
I was a Corporal and I hated it. I also realized people’s true colors when I got the rank, too. NCOs loved giving me the shit details and shitty soldiers to be in charge of, and some of (whom I thought were) my friends quickly had issues with authority. Fortunately for me, I made Sergeant and PCSd to a better unit.
@@marcusmarcus9158 yes, I did
Bro how does all that shit work man y’all make this shot sound interesting af love the men and woman who serve not so much the leaders in charge god bless
I used to be a corporal, then my alarm went off. What a nightmare 😟🥹
Was my favorite rank in the Marines. Got to do a lot of the fun stuff, passed off a lot of the BS to my Lance Criminals and PFC's. All the fun stuff disappeared at Sgt.
Did you fight in a real war or was it just mostly patrols with the odd engagement ?
@@SergyMilitaryRankings based question.
@@SergyMilitaryRankings Have you? What is your definition of a "real" war.
@@StudleyDuderight two opponents facing eachother with at least overall same capabilities, examples peer conflicts like WWII or near peer like parts of Vietnam war, Korean war and Ukraine war. Then there's stuff like Georgian war and gulf wars that are against opponents so vastly inferior that it's over so fast. Then there's stuff like Chechen war and Afghanistan war or post Iraq war Iraq that's just insurgency
May I ask can you define what’s the fun stuff you are talking about
My units chaplain is a major and I was a lcpl, he would always sit and eat with us during mess and pray for us, I’m not religious but best experience ever
Don't you mean lieutenant commander?
@@bangochupchup Australia is slightly different, he had 1 crown which makes him a major, joked with him back in the Korean War he probably fought against my chinese grandpa whom was a captain and he was a private, by the time I got my australia discharge papers I was senior nco, world is getting really small
Off topic but are you a Linux user?
So he did his job?
Corporal and Specialist are the same pay grade but a corporal absolutely outranks a specialist
I'd always get a kick out of the semi-sarcastic respect I'd give to soldiers I knew who made CPL. I'd lock it up tighter talking to them then my 1stSGT and only ever address them as "corporal".
So, they're "bi-situational" 🤣
And not to mention the extra responsibilities come with no extra benefits such as maybe even like a 50 Cent pay increase.
Skipped corporal went to sergeant then after sergeant went to second lieutenant!!!
There were two kinds of Corporals in the 1980s.
One was a Department of the Army Corporal.
The orders were issued by the DA for promotion. The rank would stay with the soldier during a duty change.
The other was a temporary promotion of an E4 who was in a Team Leader slot for more than 60 days.
The Battalion commander had promotion authority
The moment the soldier was moved to a non leadership duty position, they reverted to a Specialist.
Either way glad a I went straight from E4 Specialist to E5.
Corporals because they technically "leaders" cant hang out with their buddies or the can get fraternization charges.
And Sergeants dont want them around.
I agree worst rank to be in the Army.
Not to mention all of the responsibilities of an NCO without the training or support.
As an infantrymen
It was an honor to wear those stripes
LOL as 11B1P in the 82nd Replacement Detachment, saw a Corporal who transferring into the 82nd Airborne that there were no Corporals in Division. Never saw a Corporal mugging around in the 82nd Airborne, but I saw plenty of Specialist who served as Team Leaders until they got to BLC back in the late 1980's.
Only promotion where you lose money.
E-4 mafia is the way to go. The ultimate sham shield.
I would say its one of the cooler ranks. Who said you only had to choose your buddies or the officers. Get in good with both and you increase your chances of opportunities and relationships. Connections are very important. (Edit- last sentence added)
yeah, that's not really how it works. You really do have to pick the homies or the big boys. That's just the nature of the job.
There's this thing called a prohibition on fraternizing with subordinates. You can't just be cool with everyone. That's not how the military works.
Our corporal was the party officer. Made sure no one got too wasted for PT the next day.
It's the extra duty and responsibility rank, without the pay...
New rank of Corporal-Captain....
I remember Pierce and Hunnicutt pulling that off.
LOL
Officer club and mess privileges
Cripes, you're OLD.
In Cromwell's New Model Army (English Civil War era) the corporals held commissions. They commanded pickets and posted sentries.
@@skipdreadman8765 my kids used to ask me if I got drafted....for the North or the South?
As an NCO I treated corporals like fellow NCO's. When I was lower enlisted, I laughed at them. They got bullshit pay for more responsibility.
When I was on active duty the promotion points were maxed out, so I was stuck in a long line of people who were waiting for promotion to E5. Our company needed NCOs to fill Team Leader slots, so I got promoted to Corporal to fill that slot. Funny how the Army had "too many Sergeants", while having a shortage of Sergeants.🙄
I didn't understand it then, and I don't understand it now.
✌️❤️
I filled the slot of Cheif Preventive Medical NCO at E-3. A few years later they finally found an E-8 from one of the teams.
The biggest difference between cpl and sgt is promotion points. With enough promotion points you can go from spc to sgt (or in most cases to cpl as a placeholder until you get promoted to sgt).
But for the ones who don't have the promotion points they have to frantically scramble to get the promotion points to hit e5
Take that specialist rank out and it’ll solve the whole equation……sincerely the United States Marine Corps
Add a lance specialist rank. Lol
As of 2021 In the Army you get Corporal after completing BLC. BLC is a requirement for E5. So an easy way to tell the difference between a Specialist and Corporal, one is promotable the other is not. The Corporal is also officially a junior NCO, the Specialist isn't.
Staff Sergeant is more chaotic bc you either stuck at that rank and never earn a promotion ever again
50 years ago, being promoted to Corporal was sort of a milestone in the Marine Corps. It meant something.
I was a corporal I liked the rank. How I became cpl was my first Sgt was walking around with pin on ranks in his hand. He stopped looked at for a second and handed my a set of cpl pins and said " go see the company clerk" and that's how I became a cpl.
In the Marine Corps in the 80s when I got promoted to CPL I could go to the NCO/officer line in the chow hall and to the NCO club on base …. Different times… they were better
There is no ambiguity about Corporal in the Marines, that is the only E-4 rank and is definitely an NCO
My great grandpa was corporal rank in WW2, he fought in the Battle of the Bulge as a private but because of some acts if bravery or something (I can't remember exactly) and was then promoted
Edit: now that I think about it, some of his other squadmates might've gotten killed and so he was promoted by default
The corporal, dismissed most often, but never forget the corporal who changed the world forever and insights soo much emotion from everyone.
If you do things might repeat itself again.
Funni moustache man was a Lance Corporal, and his "MOS" was mail clerk.
So remember that when the mail is running too slow.
@@pavelthefabulous5675 He was a runner in the Infantry, carrying messages and orders at the front, not a mail clerk. He was actually wounded doing that job. He didn't have anything to to do with the mail, so stop vilifying mail clerks. There's enough REAL history. You don't need to make stuff up.
@@skipdreadman8765 I worked S-1 too, I'm not trying to disparage mail clerks but just telling a joke.
@@skipdreadman8765 To be fair though, he was probably closer to a mail orderly.
Corporal Shepard? Is that you?
I think it sucked being a SPC… I was a supply sergeant in charge of a few PVT- PFC supply clerks… I had all the responsibility without authority.
It’s like being in limbo . It really is a hybrid rank . You’re an nco but you don’t get an ncoer . You’re just getting low balled on your pay .
Yep that lateral promotion sucks, all the responsibilities, without the support or pay. But even when I was retiring many were treated as PV-5 and PV-6.
Never had a lateral promotion I was in the infantry and automatically got Cpl rank once I made E-4
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I pray respect is different in your realm. In the engineer world or other soft MOS’s you are not supported.
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this is the way.
I still have my ID with my Cpl. rank an Nope, went given was definitely earned.
I find the rank of corporal pretty interesting, in the AF we don't have an E-4 NCO rank.
Not since May of 1991. I was one of the LAST USAF E-4 Sergeants. I put it on in January of 1991 and separated in September of 1997
Lucky bastard.
Technically an E-4 becomes an NCO upon completion of PLDC. At least that was true of the Army in the 1980s. IDK what may have changed since. The USMC being much smaller, often has corporals as squad leaders and staff sergeants as Platoon sergeants.
Three days after getting pinned CPL I was placed as a section NCO in charge of 11 people, all of them my friends and all of them older than me. You talk about the most enjoyable and the most stressful job in the world. You get to be the leader to people you care about and take care of them but now you have to find that balance of “During work I’m not your friend, I’m your NCO.” Definitely had some long and stressful days. Thankfully I just made points for June.
As a specialist who had to take over as squad leader for a month, I was promoted to corporal. I did NCO things and “sat with” the NCOs. I was shortly promoted to SGT as soon as I had time in service requirements met, so it was only for a short while that I wore corporal rank.
Never got to meet my grandfather but he was a corporal. New found respect for that man.
What truly sucks is that even when you go up to corporal you still get paid specialist wage.
NCOs , the backbone of every service
Corporals should sit with the NCOs. You're a NCO and should start learning to behave like one. The junior enlisted are no longer your friends, they're you're subordinates.
E-5 and above, you need to treat corporals with the same respect you would any other NCO.
Small quibble but it’s not “the same rank”, it’s the same pay grade. We had a split E4 pay grade in the Air Force years ago. Senior Airman (non NCO) and Sergeant (NCO, commonly referred to as Buck Sergeant). Same pay grade but as a buck you could supervise, got (usually) better posts and assignments and were clearly in the NCO ranks. Around 1991 they got rid of E4 Sergeant, E4s are strictly Senior Airmen now and you become an NCO at E5 Staff Sergeant. I worked with the Army for five years and always found the differences in the ranks, culture and procedures between the branches very interesting.
Corporal. The most hated Specialist in the army.
Phenomenal cropping on that image! You must be a marine!
That unit patch of the bear and star bring back memories. I loaded two conex containers at the NTC and took them to Texas. They had the same picture as that patch.
You have a lookalike, a famous leader hehehe
Mr.Z?
The junior NCO
In the SADF there more corporals than sargeants, corporals had their own mess. They did most of the training of our recruits. I was a lance-corporal and had a bloody nightmare dealing with the corp and sargeants. In my training squadron I don't even know if we had a lieutenant or a sargeant... never saw them if they existed, we were yelled at by everyone but those two.
I have a great deal of respect for the SADF.
In the British military tradition, corporal is more like a US staff sergeant. A British staff sergeant is more like an American SFC.
@@skipdreadman8765 for all it's attempts to avoid anything English, the British military system continued in some ways in the SADF.
The Afrikaaner knew it worked best here.
i hated that rank. got it in the 90's and was given all the crappy tasks. uggh. but on the good end, i had a good unit where the Specialists were all good. they looked out for me and I looked out for them. 2 hour lunches. Hooah.
All of the responsibility, none of the respect
I was one of those. And you're absolutely right! You don't know who you're friends are anymore. I got "Promoted " cuz I got sent to NBC School and we did not have an NBC NCO Running the room.... So, they made me corporal for like a hot minute. Got an E5 back in the room within 2 months, then I'm back to the E4 Mafia....
I need to see whole spread sheet
A corporal is an E-4 or equivalent to a 3rd Class Petty officer in the Navy. Now, I don’t know about the Army’s hierarchy, but in the Navy that is just about the perfect rank, as far as high enough not to have to do shit jobs, yet low enough to not have a bunch of responsibilities.
Corporals are not a hybrid rank, it anything that's a specialist.
A Corporal is a NCO, weather people like to admit it or not.
I see a CPL as OJT to the Sergeant rank; I wiahed I had that opportunity to be a CPL. I was a Specialist 5 with no leadership background, & was laterally promoted to Sergeant when the Army abolished all Specialist 5 & above; it was a shock to me coming from a technical rank to a leadership rank. PLDC does nothing without OJT.
Holy crap, you're OLD!
Damn, traded in the ShamShield for a NCO rank.
There's nothing hybrid about it. That corporal is literally an NCO. If he doesn't know that, his NCO's failed him.
It does kind of suck! I got promoted to Corporal when we were deployed and my staff sergeant missed movement!
We ran a huge communication Network and so I was in charge of all day shift operations and he was to report to me the entire deployment, oh that wasn't awkward or anything!
The only benefit I had I when I was a Corporal for 2 years is I didn't get reemed has hard as SGT's did when we fucked up because most just assumed " he's learning how to be an NCO"
They wanna give you the responsibility of an NCO but not the privileges or pay. That is what it boils down to. An E-5 is up for CQ and he wants the day off, so he delegates it to the Junior NCO being a Corporal. See how that works? Been there, done that on both sides in the Army.
In my country corporal is the normal soldier rank "just after Private (trained)"
Entirely depends on the structure of your platoon
Work of a SGT for the pay of a SPC
I was never more salty than when I was a CPL
The USMC is comprised of the Commandant, a few other people and thousands of Lance Corporals.
I was a corporal in the army from 2009 to 2010.
I was a Corporal out of RangerSchool in Nam all the senior Officer and NCOs were down Itook over command because I had command authority as a command rank! Later I wD commended on my leadership skills my father was a Master Gunnery in the USMC and N Uncle Corporal Abn Ranger! I say wherever I wanted
I was one of the LAST USAF E-4 Sergeants. I put it on in January of 1991 (the last E-4 Sgts were promoted in May 91) and got out in September of 1997. As a young (22 years old) USAF Security Police Sergeant, I lead multiple 2 man teams, 4 man Fire Teams. I was also qualified as an Area Supervisor for a Nuclear Weapons Storage Area with responsibility for the nuclear weapons, 17 Turkish airmen, and 4 other Americans.
All of the responsibilities of a NCO, but at the E4 pay.
I guess in a war corporals are important in the chain of command,if your Sargent gets taken out you can fill the slot and take over his role.?
Worst. Rank. Ever. I spent a few years as a corporal. All of the work of a sergeant, but none of the pay.
Its not like at all in the Canadian forces.
Imo the Cpl is the best rank, and the mcpl (master corporal) is the worst.
And yes a navy mcpl in the Canadian navy is called a master seaman.
When did they bring back Corporals, back in the mid 80’s they promoted them all to SGT
I was a Corporal in the Field Artillery. I loved it.
The corporal originally was not the they just had most of their duties remove
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Hmmm- they would push people to Acting Jack= 3 stripes....... mostly to fill the CQ rosters!
I am really proud to have been a Corporal of Marines.
4 years Army J.R.O.T.C. Graduated as a Cadet First Lieutenant, 1 year Army R.O.T.C. at end up my 2nd semester I achieved the the rank of Corporal, 2 weeks later fell off a obstacle at a summer semester camp and landed on my neck from 6 feet off the ground, I was six weeks away from signing my LOI, we are soon approaching 20 years of them letting me fall into the cracks and not getting me help. the University abolished its charter and reformed under a new one with another University and I wasn't the only one who got hosed by it. I'm tired of being in pain, and being angry about this, but the pain never goes away so the anger is always in the forefront of my mind.
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This happens alot when there is a critical shortage Mos and meps offers a large bonus and there is a huge influx of soldiers in that Mos who all happen to wanna make sergeant at the same time and when that happens points are so high you will never make cutoff for sergeant or you sit on a list of hundreds waiting meanwhile you are promoted to corporal more responsibility same pay as a specialist doesn't make sense but nothing about the army hence why I did my 5 years 2 deployments and got the fuck out
In Denmark pretty much the only Corporals are the Military Police as have to be able to give orders.
I know this youtuber who was an E-4, maybe he got higher, idk ranks. But he denied becoming a corporal by denying going into the course they want him to because he fixed guns.
They are the same paygrade. Sorta like SGM and CSM or MSG and 1SG
My grandfather was an RAAF ADG in WW2. Yes I know it's airforce but it's still a combat role. They wanted to promote him to Sargent but he didn't want it
Same thing happens in the marines
Dunno specialist sounds way cooler than corporal imho
Honestly a guy that I know literally refused to get promoted to CPL because he didn't want to do extra work without a pay raise.
I was a Security Policeman in the USAF & stayed at E-4 Sgt because I didn't think I was Old enough for E-5 Staff Sergeant at first, but realized (especially when I got to the missile field) that I didn't want E-5, because the "FUN" would be over, and I'd have to go work in an office.
I just had this conversation with a newly minted WO.
As an ex corporal I can compare it to a technical lead in business today you have the responsibility but not the pay
I hate CPL. I literally didn't know what meeting to go to. Lower enlisted, or the NCO room. Then E5s talking shit that I'm in a NCO meeting
In my territory there's this derogatory term called "stucked corporal". Basically long timer that is not humble enough to act as pvt., not qualified enough to be sgt., command, ( higher officer still alive) or to quit, but act like Lt. Frat guys
In stead of making Squad Leaders rank Sergeants (later Staff Sergeant) in stead of Corporals (as you did in WW1) for the increased command and combat experience, why not have just increased promotion requirements to Corporal and keep Lance Corporal (1 shevron) and keep PFC but maybe as a horizontal bar or something?
I got lateraly promoted to corporal E-5 's and E-6's said i was an NCO, E7's said I was an E-4 but would make me the "NCO" in charge of clean up details. Fun times.
If u get eagle scout in boy scouts and talk to an army recruiter u get corporal rank
No.
Bruh
Our platoon cpl was the most goofy yet cool guy ever! Like seriously he picked me up once, spun me around and I puked a bit. He just laughed and said I was cool
I got the bullshit stripes before going to Iraq in 2003 because I got to my unit and it was at 150% so they gave me some privates right out of basic and put stripes on me and wala a whole new squad.
Lol, same thing in Russian or post USSR countries, in Russian that rank is Ефрейтор (yeh-frehy-tor)
It's not boosted it's a lateral promotion
On the job training for E5