Rookie QBs take one to two years to fully develop. Fans are expecting fixes in 1 or 2 games. Burrow, LJackson, Stafford, Lawrence and others are 0-2. And those teams have real Playmakers. We don’t have Playmakers. The Russ trade Stopped all roster building with top tier talent. Bo will be fine. You tell me what playmakers he can lean on? None. Have to be patient with the Build process. It’s going to take time, but we’ll be a better team in the long run
Why ain’t you say this about the playmakers the last two yrs and it doesn’t take 5 yrs in college to develop all those dudes you named came out after 3 yrs and didn’t get benched their third yr and transfer schools. Tell the panthers it takes 1-2 yrs bro either you have it or you don’t
Bench williams play Mclaughlin and badie untill estime gets back Bench dulchich put krull in, bench Sutton and play mims, Franklin and reynolds. Then tell all of them that if they don't produce they will be next.
Maybe, but McLaughlin isn't an upgrade. He gets taken down by ankle tackles and really doesn't have the power to make the kind of plays this team has been lacking since Williams' rookie year.
Not to mention 1st rounders Judy and Fant gone 2nd rounder Hamler gone, this team is in bad shape. The assets have been atrociously mismanaged. When you dig into it, it's worse than many might think.
Play Mims for crying out loud! Mims has the ability to be bronco’s Tyreek hill. Focus on more play action and motion pre snap. We need speed on the field, unleash Mims! Look what Saints are doing with shaheed, c’mon Payton
@@78LedHead probably right. I remember when the Wildcat offense owned the league and was unstoppable…for about 4wks in 2007. Equilibrium is reached quickly in this league.
@@garrettstiles7808 yessir. I'm not saying we'll turn it around, but there are always teams that start off hot, then after some tape gets put out and some injuries stack up, they bottom out. Saints could be for real though but I need to see it week 8.
Hopefully we’ll get a real WR1 in FA and get some good talent in the draft too. We’ve finally got our QB. We just need to build the roster around him. We still might make some moves before the trade deadline. Btw, Stroud started 0-2 and was 2-5 after 7 games. We are facing the Top 4 defensive minds in the league right now in our 1st four games. Tough for any QB on a team with not a lot of talent. Great show guys! Keeping it Frosty
The way Sean Payton doesn't give Badie more carries and often favors players over production; it makes you wonder if he really means it when he says he doesn't care where they came from, everyone will be judged off how they play. I don't believe he means that.
I remember the Shanahan days when it never mattered who was back there the guy would still put up a stack of yards on the year MINIMUM. Nowadays I look at the stat sheet at the end of games and the run game is extinct
I’d like to see Krull up, Badie a huge part of the offense and more of Mims. Bo over-through Mims on deep route where he was wide open in the outside. It’s time to activate the young bucks!
Aloha Cecil and Mase from Honolulu Hawaii! Appreciate all your hard work in giving Broncos Country updates on our beloved team, even through the hardships and struggles. Question: Doesn't Sean have the upper hand as to who he wants on his roster? I know George does all the scouting work and provides advice and council for Sean but Sean has the final say, right? Also, sean controls who goes in and out of the game and not George. So Sean, the 20 million dollar a year man, takes the blame!
Hard to go down the field when you pass the ball 3 yards down field or 3 yrds passes behind the line of scrimmage . Just horrible Play calling and the O line leaks like a siv .
The Broncos mistake wasn't Russel Wilson, it was the Sean Peyton trade. You have a group of people at the top ( owners who treat their employees like trash who traded for an NFL coach who was ordering hits on nfl players ( Bounty system ), where they put a price on players to be paid out if they injured them) No no one expects good things to come from this ownership group.
My observation is that the running game is terrible having them run more or increase running percentage how is that going to help if they're not getting many yards or losing yards?
We got duped into thinking Russ Wilson still had it. Did we get duped with Sean Payton as well? I sure would like to see Klint Kubiak as HC next year. Usually, I agree with Mase, but not about Klint. Sean can go back to FOX. PS, I'll be highly upset if Paton is still here next year as well!
Question? If this doesn’t get better, do the broncos need to scrub all of Elway, and (what was the name of the guy who handled the Trust?) And the trustee, fingerprints. It seems to be left in a mess. All though, someone really shouldn’t have expected any different.
Baffles me how Paton still has a job here. Not sure this success for the Saints lasts. It's so early. Unless it's Badie or Watson, the 1st/2nd down back isn't on this team.
You know I remember when in 1976 Tampa bay went 0-14, I think this Bronco's team might be as bad and not so much because of coaching its because of the Bad players like in 1976 , Elway and Paton have made this team a mess, its a SLOW all around team nobody can catch or tackle this goes back to Kubiak, start to look at some of these problems Bolles every time there is a first down or a TD (holding) Terrible TEs over the years , Julius Thomas[last good TE] Draft a good running back in the 1st or second round they could of had Derrick Henry and Dalvin Cook over the years, stop drafting out of Utah , Texas ,Oklahoma , Ohio state ,Alabama , LSU , Florida state and Penn state those are the schools for speed and get some new scouts already.
Bench Javonte, activate Jaleel, Blake and Tyler and let the Guards pull and down block in a 100% angle/gap/power rushing attack run from under Center in 21 personnel.
Can anyone tell me that Josh Reynolds, or really any other receiver on this roster, is better than Tim Patrick? How many drops have their been, especially on third down? Nix needs a reliable receiver and just doesn't have one.
Dudes the Rams had ZERO early round draft pics for multiple years with multiple expensive players and WON the Super Bowl. Bronco fans and the media are delusional and you guys are beginning to sound pathetic with the constant mentioning of Russell Wilson. Clearly it was Sean Payton. Last year Russ and Sutton started giving you guys your only chance at a winning season in years and Payton benches him. He's an overrated ego maniac who lived off of Drew Brees and was able to fleece the Walton family for a job...lmao
Sean Payton needs to take a backseat and not call plays or put pressure on qbs . Let the OC call plays and give Nix freedom Sean is stubborn and puts pressure on his QBs
Made and Cecil need to be smarter than this. Even a football fan who’s watched football for more than 10 years knows Nix just played two of the hardest defenses in the NFL. It’s not gonna get better? Come on. Be better guys.
Do you not understand what a rebuild is? Bad personal equals no good plays to call how did the Broncos start last year? Manning's and Elways rookie years, what are you talking about.
And Cecil hyped Bo up all preseason “he doesn’t make the same mistake twice” 😂😂😂 now he’s bashing everyone else to protect Bo. He blamed the run defense last night like bro what 😭
Broncos Country has really just been abused the last 8 years. Nix needs time as does the roster given the lack of intention to rebuild sooner. But acting like this team won't improve over the course of the year is pathetic. The team sucks right now and so does the fanbase.
I blame Sean. Like Hackett, they both want to run an offense out of shotgun but the team doesn’t have the players to run that offense. Bo needs to play more under center to improve the running game.
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You could have Brock bowers instead of Bo nix. Cry about weapons and the highest rated te in yrs becomes available and we let him go to the raiders. I wanted bowers the whole time he would’ve been our Kelce then we were one step closer to creating our offense. I was willing to have a 3-14 with stidham and Wilson and draft a LT and build up our front 7 then wait til the right qb is available but until then build a team and don’t cheat the process. We never won when Peyton was mvp we won on defense. We should’ve kept Simmons, you wanna know why it’s tougher for surtain because you took away his safety blanket. They name all the missed draft picks which is about 80 percent of them and don’t think no is gonna be one of the misses 😭 this is what you get when you cheat the process
@@tdor9963 you do realize he HAS to say that, right? Basic towing the company line: once you’re committed to something you say “we always wanted/planned to do that.”
You guys are way wrong, it isn't Payton, it isn't Bo, BO IS A ROOKIE, he's going to have to play and make mistakes in order to develop, what's wrong with you guys? The ones who are to blame are all the other duds on the team. Look at the Manning years- Chris Harris and Aqib Talib were BOTH better than PS2, and we had two of them as opposed to the one now. No sack leaders now. Before we had BOTH Von and Wolfey. No real receivers now. Sutton is sucking. Before we had DT, JT, ES, WW, ED, etc. No run game either. The game plan wasn't as bad as people think. Bo missed some reads and overthrew some guys, but he will get better as he plays. Patience dumb dumbs.
Just a bad team. Paton had set this team back 10 years with his brain dead deals and draft misses. 53 years old and NEVER watched this team play such bad football for this long. Almost like they sold their soul to the devil to win SB50
Question? If this doesn’t get better, do the broncos need to scrub all of Elway, and (what was the name of the guy who handled the Trust?) And the trustee, fingerprints. It seems to be left in a mess. All though, someone really shouldn’t have expected any different.
Rookie QBs take one to two years to fully develop. Fans are expecting fixes in 1 or 2 games. Burrow, LJackson, Stafford, Lawrence and others are 0-2. And those teams have real Playmakers. We don’t have Playmakers. The Russ trade Stopped all roster building with top tier talent. Bo will be fine. You tell me what playmakers he can lean on? None. Have to be patient with the Build process. It’s going to take time, but we’ll be a better team in the long run
Why ain’t you say this about the playmakers the last two yrs and it doesn’t take 5 yrs in college to develop all those dudes you named came out after 3 yrs and didn’t get benched their third yr and transfer schools. Tell the panthers it takes 1-2 yrs bro either you have it or you don’t
Bench williams play Mclaughlin and badie untill estime gets back
Bench dulchich put krull in, bench Sutton and play mims, Franklin and reynolds. Then tell all of them that if they don't produce they will be next.
Why not. Got nothing to lose at this point.
Maybe, but McLaughlin isn't an upgrade. He gets taken down by ankle tackles and really doesn't have the power to make the kind of plays this team has been lacking since Williams' rookie year.
Make him a slot receiver, put him out on space sooner
It's almost like 6 lost 1st and 2nd round picks and 20% of your adjusted cap going to a guy in Pittsburgh is taking it's toll.
Not to mention 1st rounders Judy and Fant gone 2nd rounder Hamler gone, this team is in bad shape. The assets have been atrociously mismanaged. When you dig into it, it's worse than many might think.
@@scaber BINGO
This is a rebuilding season and the roster reflects that. The team will not produce many wins. Have to some young guys develop, including Bo.
💯 - just hope they don’t ruin him in the process
Play Mims for crying out loud! Mims has the ability to be bronco’s Tyreek hill. Focus on more play action and motion pre snap. We need speed on the field, unleash Mims! Look what Saints are doing with shaheed, c’mon Payton
New Orleans coaching staff: Dennis Allen, Klint Kubiak, Clancy Barone, Rick Dennison, Joe Woods. Ring some Bells?
Oh wow: painful when it’s laid out like that 🤦♂️
It won't last. The NFL is crazy.
@@78LedHead probably right. I remember when the Wildcat offense owned the league and was unstoppable…for about 4wks in 2007. Equilibrium is reached quickly in this league.
@@garrettstiles7808 yessir. I'm not saying we'll turn it around, but there are always teams that start off hot, then after some tape gets put out and some injuries stack up, they bottom out. Saints could be for real though but I need to see it week 8.
Hopefully we’ll get a real WR1 in FA and get some good talent in the draft too. We’ve finally got our QB. We just need to build the roster around him. We still might make some moves before the trade deadline. Btw, Stroud started 0-2 and was 2-5 after 7 games. We are facing the Top 4 defensive minds in the league right now in our 1st four games. Tough for any QB on a team with not a lot of talent. Great show guys! Keeping it Frosty
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The way Sean Payton doesn't give Badie more carries and often favors players over production; it makes you wonder if he really means it when he says he doesn't care where they came from, everyone will be judged off how they play. I don't believe he means that.
I remember the Shanahan days when it never mattered who was back there the guy would still put up a stack of yards on the year MINIMUM. Nowadays I look at the stat sheet at the end of games and the run game is extinct
We were spoiled back in the shanahan days
Shanny almost always had a pro bowl QB at his disposal. Not a dig on him, he was responsible for bringing in Jake and Jay.
Me and my son's first game. Had a blast but felt like we were the only ones yelling.
Also good to see good facing for product placement today Ultra violence Cecil 🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘🤘
I’d like to see Krull up, Badie a huge part of the offense and more of Mims. Bo over-through Mims on deep route where he was wide open in the outside. It’s time to activate the young bucks!
Hi guys! Mase was right, in early august. He had Broncos starting 0-3.
Cecil, was Davis Webb calling the plays during preseason? If so, I think it would make sense why Bo looks out of sync with Payton
Aloha Cecil and Mase from Honolulu Hawaii! Appreciate all your hard work in giving Broncos Country updates on our beloved team, even through the hardships and struggles.
Question: Doesn't Sean have the upper hand as to who he wants on his roster? I know George does all the scouting work and provides advice and council for Sean but Sean has the final say, right?
Also, sean controls who goes in and out of the game and not George. So Sean, the 20 million dollar a year man, takes the blame!
Check in after week five.
Start evaluating for expectation, week six.
Hard to go down the field when you pass the ball 3 yards down field or 3 yrds passes behind the line of scrimmage . Just horrible Play calling and the O line leaks like a siv .
I want to see watson and badie. If they can't cut it, give estime the work the majority of the time.
He has to stop putting the ball on the ground
The Broncos mistake wasn't Russel Wilson, it was the Sean Peyton trade. You have a group of people at the top ( owners who treat their employees like trash who traded for an NFL coach who was ordering hits on nfl players ( Bounty system ), where they put a price on players to be paid out if they injured them) No no one expects good things to come from this ownership group.
I suggest to do a show on how many starters on the Broncos would start for any other AFC West teams.
My observation is that the running game is terrible having them run more or increase running percentage how is that going to help if they're not getting many yards or losing yards?
Give our Broncos a break! Let them learn. They got beat by two teams with good defenses!
True: this is a brutal two-game stretch to open a rookie QB’s season. Fans just upset (understandably) at two more frustrating losses.
If the run game stays impotent like this, nothing gets turned around
We got duped into thinking Russ Wilson still had it. Did we get duped with Sean Payton as well? I sure would like to see Klint Kubiak as HC next year. Usually, I agree with Mase, but not about Klint. Sean can go back to FOX. PS, I'll be highly upset if Paton is still here next year as well!
Need to find a way to get Sutton involved early in the game
At 3% you want an onside kick?
As a Danzig Cecil fan I'm sad but as a Raiduuuuh BABY fan this is interesting
Question?
If this doesn’t get better, do the broncos need to scrub all of Elway, and (what was the name of the guy who handled the Trust?) And the trustee, fingerprints. It seems to be left in a mess.
All though, someone really shouldn’t have expected any different.
Baffles me how Paton still has a job here. Not sure this success for the Saints lasts. It's so early. Unless it's Badie or Watson, the 1st/2nd down back isn't on this team.
You know I remember when in 1976 Tampa bay went 0-14, I think this Bronco's team might be as bad and not so much because of coaching its because of the Bad players like in 1976 , Elway and Paton have made this team a mess, its a SLOW all around team nobody can catch or tackle this goes back to Kubiak, start to look at some of these problems Bolles every time there is a first down or a TD (holding) Terrible TEs over the years , Julius Thomas[last good TE] Draft a good running back in the 1st or second round they could of had Derrick Henry and Dalvin Cook over the years, stop drafting out of Utah , Texas ,Oklahoma , Ohio state ,Alabama , LSU , Florida state and Penn state those are the schools for speed and get some new scouts already.
Why does SP have to call the plays? Lombardi can. Let SP manage the game like HC's supposed to.
Great point Mase. Perhaps Javonte should be relegated to a 3rd down back. Badie is explosive and dynamic and always falls forward!
Bench Javonte, activate Jaleel, Blake and Tyler and let the Guards pull and down block in a 100% angle/gap/power rushing attack run from under Center in 21 personnel.
Badie should get significant carries to shake up the running game
But I thought the broncos were a quarterback away...🤦♂️
Can anyone tell me that Josh Reynolds, or really any other receiver on this roster, is better than Tim Patrick? How many drops have their been, especially on third down? Nix needs a reliable receiver and just doesn't have one.
Javonte is a third down back, now. Play Badie.
Dudes the Rams had ZERO early round draft pics for multiple years with multiple expensive players and WON the Super Bowl. Bronco fans and the media are delusional and you guys are beginning to sound pathetic with the constant mentioning of Russell Wilson. Clearly it was Sean Payton. Last year Russ and Sutton started giving you guys your only chance at a winning season in years and Payton benches him. He's an overrated ego maniac who lived off of Drew Brees and was able to fleece the Walton family for a job...lmao
Broncos spend a 1st and a 2nd round picks to get Sean from the Saints, so 2 more posible starters by that trade.
Fire Peyton
Manning is no longer with the team
@@CO_hippy Zing! 😂
How many coaching staffs have ruined roomy quarterbacks, in the NFL!
Tampa will crush the Broncos.
Sean Payton needs to take a backseat and not call plays or put pressure on qbs . Let the OC call plays and give Nix freedom
Sean is stubborn and puts pressure on his QBs
C&M are Randy Quaid from Major League II.
Made and Cecil need to be smarter than this. Even a football fan who’s watched football for more than 10 years knows Nix just played two of the hardest defenses in the NFL.
It’s not gonna get better? Come on. Be better guys.
Go Bucs, go KC!
Do you not understand what a rebuild is? Bad personal equals no good plays to call how did the Broncos start last year? Manning's and Elways rookie years, what are you talking about.
Zachary is patiently waiting
Bo sux , not an nfl caliber qb.
Yeah but how good is that punter? Guy has a great leg
Do not point fingers it's a whole team loss
Man. I was ok. Now I’m depressed haha
Vision Quest
Poor product placement by Johnny Cash Mase FACING SIR
If Mike McGlinchey is the best run-blocker the Broncos have, no wonder the running game is so bad.
Payton needs to go!!😂😂😂
Javonte is bricked
Bo is not the answer.
@@outfield1988 at all
Worst Broncos offense ever.
Right! These runs are so basic there’s no motion or any trickery just vanilla offense
Someone has already forgotten 2022
@@garrettstiles7808 we’re on par
@@garrettstiles7808 for sure
@@garrettstiles7808 Right
I told you six months ago Nix was trash and Payton is overrated.
And Cecil hyped Bo up all preseason “he doesn’t make the same mistake twice” 😂😂😂 now he’s bashing everyone else to protect Bo. He blamed the run defense last night like bro what 😭
That is a comically early overreaction.
Too early to say that, look if your right, just wait, you will have more weight on your claims
@@garrettstiles7808 it’s not tho Bo was overrated coming out of Oregon
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Broncos Country has really just been abused the last 8 years. Nix needs time as does the roster given the lack of intention to rebuild sooner. But acting like this team won't improve over the course of the year is pathetic. The team sucks right now and so does the fanbase.
I blame Sean. Like Hackett, they both want to run an offense out of shotgun but the team doesn’t have the players to run that offense. Bo needs to play more under center to improve the running game.
Depressing
Broncos were ruined by incompetence.
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Go bo somewhere else takeSean with you.
zach wilson START
You could have Brock bowers instead of Bo nix. Cry about weapons and the highest rated te in yrs becomes available and we let him go to the raiders. I wanted bowers the whole time he would’ve been our Kelce then we were one step closer to creating our offense. I was willing to have a 3-14 with stidham and Wilson and draft a LT and build up our front 7 then wait til the right qb is available but until then build a team and don’t cheat the process. We never won when Peyton was mvp we won on defense. We should’ve kept Simmons, you wanna know why it’s tougher for surtain because you took away his safety blanket. They name all the missed draft picks which is about 80 percent of them and don’t think no is gonna be one of the misses 😭 this is what you get when you cheat the process
Salary cap mgmt alone dictates you never take a TE when you need a QB. Raiders would’ve happily swapped and taken Nix.
Telesco shook his head no when they ask him if he wouldn't taken Nix if he was still on the board
@@tdor9963 you do realize he HAS to say that, right? Basic towing the company line: once you’re committed to something you say “we always wanted/planned to do that.”
@@garrettstiles7808 no they wouldn’t bro we don’t need a qb right there’s other parts of the team we need first
You guys are way wrong, it isn't Payton, it isn't Bo, BO IS A ROOKIE, he's going to have to play and make mistakes in order to develop, what's wrong with you guys? The ones who are to blame are all the other duds on the team. Look at the Manning years- Chris Harris and Aqib Talib were BOTH better than PS2, and we had two of them as opposed to the one now. No sack leaders now. Before we had BOTH Von and Wolfey. No real receivers now. Sutton is sucking. Before we had DT, JT, ES, WW, ED, etc. No run game either. The game plan wasn't as bad as people think. Bo missed some reads and overthrew some guys, but he will get better as he plays. Patience dumb dumbs.
You guys are wishy washy. Just double down and say it, sean payton isn't the answer and Bo nix was a bad pick.
Just a bad team. Paton had set this team back 10 years with his brain dead deals and draft misses.
53 years old and NEVER watched this team play such bad football for this long. Almost like they sold their soul to the devil to win SB50
They didn't win SB 15
It's interesting that the other worst team Carolina is who we beat in SB 50. Maybe they got the curse on them also lol.
Broncos are worse.
Fire these two as well
Great point Mase. Perhaps Javonte should be relegated to a 3rd down back. Badie is explosive and dynamic and always falls forward!
Question?
If this doesn’t get better, do the broncos need to scrub all of Elway, and (what was the name of the guy who handled the Trust?) And the trustee, fingerprints. It seems to be left in a mess.
All though, someone really shouldn’t have expected any different.