I think they call it The Law of Sod. We managed to rent a shop unit with small living accommodation for 1500B pcm, then a 2 bed village house for 800B pcm. There are 2 very good reasons for these crazy prices though, we live in Hin Dat, Kampaeng Phet, which is a very cheap place to live and both properties were howling! Great channel BTW.
Yes that about sums it up lol. It is very cheap up here if you're willing to go scouting; we'll keep our eyes peeled and sure something will turn up :)
Graham was passing on some real good info. Of course, buying in your Thai spouses name does provide for potential of return. Renting does not. That was an incredibly low rent! Wow! Thanks for sharing.
wow just did a gogle search and there's some nice places really cheap and some amazing places for a little bit more than really cheap!! I'm on my way!! Its not snowing but last week it felt like it was!! Good info and videos..
I have built a house in Pakchong and bought one in Hua Hin.My Thai wife gets me for a while,and two houses when I'm gone.My son in Australia gets my bank account and insurance of $2 Mill.Everyones a winner.
Had a problem with price gouging when I'd just moved to Bangkok. A Thai friend found me a very nice flat for 10,000. When we got there to look at it, and the manager saw a farang, the price immediately jumped to 20,000. I think my Thai friend was even more angry than me :) Needless to say, I ended up staying in the flat I was already in for all 14 yrs I lived there, and my 10,000 baht rent a month never increased in all that time. In the US, that would have gone up by 5 to 8 percent a month, so I was very happy. Lovely folks owned my building too.
Just came across your site, very enjoyable watching. I was gutted for you that you missed the house you showed. I hope you have more 'good' luck' in the future. Unbelievable prices as well, that's the real Thailand. We know it quite well, having spent many a visit to my wife's area around Mae Chan and all points beyond, as you say a beautiful area, delightful people, and accessible enough to Chiang Rai city for all your needs. We almost settled in Mae Chan, but the land we wanted, all of a sudden..., become outrageously priced. I also have a passion for the ocean, and we ended up in Koh Lanta Yai, Krabi, a beautiful spot also, but my heart strings still tug towards the North. My wife was reluctant to settle there, as she could not cope with the smoke in the burning season. Is that a problem in your area? I've liked and subscribed, hope it helps.
Nice one mate, Maybe a couple of Shipping containers on the farm mate, House would have been awesome. Hope you guys get one and a bit of peace and quiet.
Thanks Graham great info i am living in Chiang Rai and have been thinking on the best options (ownership or rent) this info has helped me a lot Cheers Allan
Great video Graham, agree with what you said about renting, instead of buying. However, I think the biggest obstacle with long term renting (at least the obstacle I am currently trying to find a solution for) is the visa limitation. Thailand visitor visa is currently only 30 days for me and my wife - If we are renting, I am assuming getting a residency visa (permanent or temporary) is going to be impossible. Any insights on that?
this video reminded me of a recurring character Paul Whitehouse used to do in the fast show talking to camera BRILLIANT .1000 baht a month for a three bedroom 2 bathroom house now that is brilliant
I'm with you on that. If one can't own the land and is perhaps halfway through their life, why bother. Just rent yearly or whatever. Surely you and Pie (Amphai!) will find something eventually. Fam's teacher deserving certainly. 1000 baht. wow. Fantastic deal! Nice house, just needs a few new plant trees around it maybe. Though, it just shows there are probably more than a few others up there up around any of the towns in Chaing Rai.
Something will turn up; we'll keep looking. Fam's teacher is a really nice guy and used to live over 20km from the school so this home will make it much easier for him; he's now only 2km from it so it's all good. It was a fantastic deal and there are others out there :)
Rotten luck mate. I think i was nearly as thrilled as you must have been when i thought you had found somewhere. On the positive side it just shows how something can turn up out of the blue. Next time.
What deal for the teacher! There are apartments in the town in which I live that are going for 1,500 baht a month, and I thought that was cheap. They are rented mostly to the students going the technology university (RMUTL) just north of here. They don't look nearly as nice as that house. There's also a motel in town that would charge about 150$USD a month for a room, plus a little more for maid service, last time I asked. All this is near a major highway, though, with not much peace and quiet. I've tried to talk a few old friends in the U.S. into trying it out, but no takers yet.
Wow, just incredible price. It's like $38 a month Aussie. $456 a year. You'd be better off just renting it forever... Full the pond up, grow fish, few chickens for eggs, veggie garden, couple of dogs, some pigs for bacon sandwiches.....And you're set for the rest of your life!!!
It was a bargain, no doubt about that and the garden was big enough for all the vegetables and livestock that we could need :) That's life ... no good worry about it :)
Good video mate. I bet there's plenty people wish they'd rented and not bought for obvious reasons. Someone else posted a question about visas and whether renting causes problems with this. Is there some law about residency and owning land/property? Cheers
Years ago a friend of mine bought and regretted it. When it came time to sell up it was more hassle and it took over 3 years ... I've seen properties languishing on websites for over 5 years; there's just a glut in the market and yet the building work in places like Hau Hin, Phuket and Pattaya continue unabated ... madness. In order to own land you have to be a Thai national. Foreigners are not permitted to own land. In exceptional cases the Gov can issue a BOI (Board of Investment) certificate on land ownership for foreigners but I've never really looked into the requirements.
What a shame! Such a neat looking house too. Anywsy, the way your Channel is growing, you'll soon have enough to buy it!! Is there room for a tent in the garden? 555
Very informative and interesting vlog, as you rightly mentioned you have no second thoughts on buying a property as you have been married for so many years, and of course Fam is your flesh and blood. For a single Farang it makes no sense to buy a property even if that person had plenty of money to do so.
Wow! Amazing value for money up there in Northern Thailand. I'll be there one day. Athough I quite like the idea of Chiangmai. I need a bit of, 'Townlife.' I visited Chiangmai for a week in January, fab place. Enjoying the Vlogs Graham, best wishes from me here in my village, just outside Doncaster, UK.
It was a very good deal but no meant to be :) I don't miss the town life at all; much rather sit on the farm listening to the birds :) How's the weather there now mate? Heard there was snow!
Hi Graham, great to hear from you. No snow here in Doncaster. Further North over the Pennines and Lakes yes, snow there. All clear now though. Just enjoying the Bank holiday Monday before work tomorrow. Hope you, Pie and Fam are all fab!!
Thank you for good information. I am considering moving to Chiang Rai country side. But is there any problem of safety from snakes, centipedes, floods, or robbers? The house looks very lonely, isolated from village.
That rent is ridiculous :) Even two or three thousand would be incredibly cheap. However, it illustrates how low salaries are in many parts of Thailand. Something will turn up. It's always darkest before the dawn. Chok dee to all of you.
See if Gordon will rent out his place to you guys for 2,000 baht Graham! Not sure if Gordon and May would like the city life with your mom and dad though. Lol I'm thinking May will step in on that one! Maybe Pham can be a cattle rancher for Gordon in a few more years. Gordon's workshop would be a great place for Pham to perfect his rocket-making skills after work! 1,000 baht...Amazing! That's not very many duck eggs worth! I thought that was interesting about what Gordon said about the Catfish ponds being cut down sharp so they don't jump out.
We don't live in the city; we live in a tiny village just like Gordon & May; unfortunately we have a shop across the road where they like to party :) Oh dear me ... could you imagine the mischief Fam would get up to; he'd be on Gordon's mower all day :) We only farm Talapia at the moment and a trader recently inquired about our fish so it looks like we might have a buyer ready for when they are due to be harvested :)
Pie is a sweetheart so you have some luck kid ! Wow I could rent a house for what it costs me for a 24 of beer !! Buy it bud , what would be the mortgage there if its only $40000 it should be peanuts no?
Yeah I know, it was almost giving it away and such a nice little house. Pie and I are not worried; it wasn't meant to be and something will turn up sooner or later. Have a wonderful day!
1000Bht/Mth ? It surely must be built on a Nuclear waste dump . Just as well someone got in before you . Seriously - it was not meant to be - better is around the corner . As for "luck" , you make your own . The owner would sell the house for !,000,000Bht = $40,000AUD. My Partner and I just paid $60,000 in legal fees, real estate agent commissions and stamp duty to sell and re buy here in Queensland (I know where I'd rather have spent the money).
LOL, no it was really nice. We're not the sort to worry about it; tomorrow might bring a whole new set of opportunities and something better might turn up :) It was the same in the UK when it comes to selling a house; lawyers, stamp duty ... everyone got a cut and it was really expensive.
some great information partner. I can't wait to see you guys make it big. Good people deserve to do well!
Cheers mate. Can't complain at all. Since vlogging things have improved no end thanks to the support of our subscribers :)
I think they call it The Law of Sod. We managed to rent a shop unit with small living accommodation for 1500B pcm, then a 2 bed village house for 800B pcm. There are 2 very good reasons for these crazy prices though, we live in Hin Dat, Kampaeng Phet, which is a very cheap place to live and both properties were howling! Great channel BTW.
Yes that about sums it up lol. It is very cheap up here if you're willing to go scouting; we'll keep our eyes peeled and sure something will turn up :)
Graham was passing on some real good info. Of course, buying in your Thai spouses name does provide for potential of return. Renting does not.
That was an incredibly low rent! Wow!
Thanks for sharing.
wow just did a gogle search and there's some nice places really cheap and some amazing places for a little bit more than really cheap!!
I'm on my way!!
Its not snowing but last week it felt like it was!!
Good info and videos..
You can find some really good deals up here in terms of cheap rent. The best way is through the locals :)
OK so I will ask you!!??
I have built a house in Pakchong and bought one in Hua Hin.My Thai wife gets me for a while,and two houses when I'm gone.My son in Australia gets my bank account and insurance of $2 Mill.Everyones a winner.
Had a problem with price gouging when I'd just moved to Bangkok. A Thai friend found me a very nice flat for 10,000. When we got there to look at it, and the manager saw a farang, the price immediately jumped to 20,000. I think my Thai friend was even more angry than me :) Needless to say, I ended up staying in the flat I was already in for all 14 yrs I lived there, and my 10,000 baht rent a month never increased in all that time. In the US, that would have gone up by 5 to 8 percent a month, so I was very happy. Lovely folks owned my building too.
Just came across your site, very enjoyable watching.
I was gutted for you that you missed the house you showed. I hope you have more 'good' luck' in the future. Unbelievable prices as well, that's the real Thailand. We know it quite well, having spent many a visit to my wife's area around Mae Chan and all points beyond, as you say a beautiful area, delightful people, and accessible enough to Chiang Rai city for all your needs. We almost settled in Mae Chan, but the land we wanted, all of a sudden..., become outrageously priced.
I also have a passion for the ocean, and we ended up in Koh Lanta Yai, Krabi, a beautiful spot also, but my heart strings still tug towards the North. My wife was reluctant to settle there, as she could not cope with the smoke in the burning season. Is that a problem in your area?
I've liked and subscribed, hope it helps.
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Sorry about your bad luck! I will pray you find a better place.
Not to worry; all happens for a reason and you never know when something else will come along :)
Nice one mate, Maybe a couple of Shipping containers on the farm mate, House would have been awesome. Hope you guys get one and a bit of peace and quiet.
LOL, not a bad idea mate. Win some you lose some; not going to lose any sleep over it ... sun's still shinning :)
Thanks Graham great info i am living in Chiang Rai and have been thinking on the best options (ownership or rent) this info has helped me a lot Cheers Allan
You're welcome Allan. At the end of the day renting is easier and safer for foreigners here.
Thank you Graham. I love the country!
Fantastic video.
Breath of fresh air.
Subbed.
Thanks mate. Lot's more to come with our daily vlog :)
It wasn’t meant to be, I really think there’s a better one coming your way, love your vlog
Great video Graham, agree with what you said about renting, instead of buying. However, I think the biggest obstacle with long term renting (at least the obstacle I am currently trying to find a solution for) is the visa limitation. Thailand visitor visa is currently only 30 days for me and my wife - If we are renting, I am assuming getting a residency visa (permanent or temporary) is going to be impossible. Any insights on that?
this video reminded me of a recurring character Paul Whitehouse used to do in the fast show talking to camera BRILLIANT .1000 baht a month for a three bedroom 2 bathroom house now that is brilliant
I used to love watching the Fast Show ... still like the old Q.C :) Yeah houses like that and that cheap don't come up that often :)
Great vlog once again .
Sorry to hear that you missed out on that house 1000B wow that's was a good price . Better luck next time .Keep safe
Cheers Wayne. It was an outstanding deal but not to worry. We'll keep our eyes peeled :)
I was wondering what your temperature range was from high to low.
Winter low's 2C with summer high's of 36C - I've known it to hit 44C but that's a rarity.
Very helpful video You have made thank you very much for that. A personal question do you speak Thai and how you learn that if may I ask?
I'm with you on that. If one can't own the land and is perhaps halfway through their life, why bother. Just rent yearly or whatever. Surely you and Pie (Amphai!) will find something eventually. Fam's teacher deserving certainly.
1000 baht. wow. Fantastic deal! Nice house, just needs a few new plant trees around it maybe. Though, it just shows there are probably more than a few others up there up around any of the towns in Chaing Rai.
Something will turn up; we'll keep looking. Fam's teacher is a really nice guy and used to live over 20km from the school so this home will make it much easier for him; he's now only 2km from it so it's all good.
It was a fantastic deal and there are others out there :)
worked out -that's great.
Rotten luck mate. I think i was nearly as thrilled as you must have been when i thought you had found somewhere. On the positive side it just shows how something can turn up out of the blue. Next time.
LOL, really close on that one :) We're sure something else will turn up sooner or later.
As always, good informative video.
Enjoy life.
Thank you :)
1K a month is really cheap. Stating the obvious. Looked smaller than 140 sq m.
What deal for the teacher! There are apartments in the town in which I live that are going for 1,500 baht a month, and I thought that was cheap. They are rented mostly to the students going the technology university (RMUTL) just north of here. They don't look nearly as nice as that house. There's also a motel in town that would charge about 150$USD a month for a room, plus a little more for maid service, last time I asked. All this is near a major highway, though, with not much peace and quiet. I've tried to talk a few old friends in the U.S. into trying it out, but no takers yet.
Wow, just incredible price. It's like $38 a month Aussie. $456 a year. You'd be better off just renting it forever...
Full the pond up, grow fish, few chickens for eggs, veggie garden, couple of dogs, some pigs for bacon sandwiches.....And you're set for the rest of your life!!!
It was a bargain, no doubt about that and the garden was big enough for all the vegetables and livestock that we could need :) That's life ... no good worry about it :)
Hi Graham , How much is a million in Australian dollars ? I'm having some trouble getting my head around the conversion rate ...lol
38,400 aussie
It's about 26 baht to the Australian Dollar so as CJinAsia said about 38,400. Certainly a lot of money.
Hi, love watching your videos. Maybe you've posted this before, but what do you use for health care coverage
Cheers,m
Mike
I have health insurance through the Bangkok Bank. I don't use it if I go to the clinic as it's very cheap.
Wow! 1000 Baht is 37 Australian Dollars. I would happily pay that a month.
Good video mate. I bet there's plenty people wish they'd rented and not bought for obvious reasons. Someone else posted a question about visas and whether renting causes problems with this. Is there some law about residency and owning land/property? Cheers
Years ago a friend of mine bought and regretted it. When it came time to sell up it was more hassle and it took over 3 years ... I've seen properties languishing on websites for over 5 years; there's just a glut in the market and yet the building work in places like Hau Hin, Phuket and Pattaya continue unabated ... madness.
In order to own land you have to be a Thai national. Foreigners are not permitted to own land. In exceptional cases the Gov can issue a BOI (Board of Investment) certificate on land ownership for foreigners but I've never really looked into the requirements.
What is the name of the area in Thailand where you live? Thanks 👍
Enjoyed the vlog. Subscribed :)
Thank you :)
Very nice house.
What a shame! Such a neat looking house too. Anywsy, the way your Channel is growing, you'll soon have enough to buy it!! Is there room for a tent in the garden? 555
It was rather nice, never mind there's always another day :) Yes more than enough room for your tent Chris; it sat on nearly 1600 sqm :)
your 100% right renting is the only way
It's just easier mate and ultimately safer :)
Sorry you didn't get the house Graham.
Very informative and interesting vlog, as you rightly mentioned you have no second thoughts on buying a property as you have been married for so many years, and of course Fam is your flesh and blood. For a single Farang it makes no sense to buy a property even if that person had plenty of money to do so.
Yes it's much easier to rent and is for the most part hassle free :)
Wow! Amazing value for money up there in Northern Thailand.
I'll be there one day. Athough I quite like the idea of Chiangmai. I need a bit of, 'Townlife.'
I visited Chiangmai for a week in January, fab place.
Enjoying the Vlogs Graham, best wishes from me here in my village, just outside Doncaster, UK.
It was a very good deal but no meant to be :) I don't miss the town life at all; much rather sit on the farm listening to the birds :) How's the weather there now mate? Heard there was snow!
Hi Graham, great to hear from you.
No snow here in Doncaster. Further North over the Pennines and Lakes yes, snow there. All clear now though.
Just enjoying the Bank holiday Monday before work tomorrow.
Hope you, Pie and Fam are all fab!!
Haven't see snow in 14 years lol, can't say I miss it mate. Enjoy your Bank Holiday :)
What a shame that looked such a good deal. It does show these things do come up though so hopefully you will be first there on the next one.
Yeah but not to worry; part of life. You can find some pretty cheap rentals up here if you ask around ... we'll just have to keep looking around :)
Great vlog :-) hope you find a place, talk about bad luck :-(
Pie and I will keep on looking; it's all part of life :)
Good things happen to good People ;-)
It's all come in good time :)
Which part of Thailand did you film this?
Chiang Saen, Chiang Rai
Thanks!
Thank you for good information. I am considering moving to Chiang Rai country side. But is there any problem of safety from snakes, centipedes, floods, or robbers? The house looks very lonely, isolated from village.
I've never hand any problems with snakes, centipedes, floods or robbers.
great advice
That rent is ridiculous :) Even two or three thousand would be incredibly cheap. However, it illustrates how low salaries are in many parts of Thailand. Something will turn up. It's always darkest before the dawn. Chok dee to all of you.
It was very cheap; the initial asking price was 3,000 baht a month. Yes mate, something will eventually turn up :)
I think teachers are on 10k a month. Most folks up here who do not own land work as farm labourers at 200 baht a day.
See if Gordon will rent out his place to you guys for 2,000 baht Graham! Not sure if Gordon and May would like the city life with your mom and dad though.
Lol I'm thinking May will step in on that one!
Maybe Pham can be a cattle rancher for Gordon in a few more years. Gordon's workshop would be a great place for Pham to perfect his rocket-making skills after work!
1,000 baht...Amazing! That's not very many duck eggs worth!
I thought that was interesting about what Gordon said about the Catfish ponds being cut down sharp so they don't jump out.
We don't live in the city; we live in a tiny village just like Gordon & May; unfortunately we have a shop across the road where they like to party :)
Oh dear me ... could you imagine the mischief Fam would get up to; he'd be on Gordon's mower all day :)
We only farm Talapia at the moment and a trader recently inquired about our fish so it looks like we might have a buyer ready for when they are due to be harvested :)
Pie is a sweetheart so you have some luck kid ! Wow I could rent a house for what it costs me for a 24 of beer !! Buy it bud , what would be the mortgage there if its only $40000 it should be peanuts no?
RIP Graham.
OMG how cheap is that. Don't stress the house that's ment to be is out waiting for you guys . ❣️
Yeah I know, it was almost giving it away and such a nice little house. Pie and I are not worried; it wasn't meant to be and something will turn up sooner or later. Have a wonderful day!
Nice video, sorry that it did not happen then
1000Bht/Mth ? It surely must be built on a Nuclear waste dump . Just as well someone got in before you . Seriously - it was not meant to be - better is around the corner . As for "luck" , you make your own .
The owner would sell the house for !,000,000Bht = $40,000AUD. My Partner and I just paid $60,000 in legal fees, real estate agent commissions and stamp duty to sell and re buy here in Queensland (I know where I'd rather have spent the money).
LOL, no it was really nice. We're not the sort to worry about it; tomorrow might bring a whole new set of opportunities and something better might turn up :)
It was the same in the UK when it comes to selling a house; lawyers, stamp duty ... everyone got a cut and it was really expensive.
What a shame, but something will turn up for sure
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Bad luck, but great attitude mate
Sorry you missed out but something is out there waiting for you.
The new tenants just pay them off to leave they will go find another place.
1000 baht......man I thought i heard it all! O_o
YOLO.(you only live once)
shame,but next time!!
Yeah, that's life ... onwards and upwards :)
I dont know why all you guys doing vids on apts talk in baats..the vid means nothing to me if i dont hear dollars