There are only so many shapes and designs one can use to make a fountain open. Jinhao has indeed made it's own unique designs. A Sailor customer will not be swayed from the brand because of a lookalike. It's okay to have a Lamy 2000 and a Jinhao 80. Both can be appreciated. I own 2 Sailor lower end pens. They are not to my liking as far as how they feel on the page. This channel has not disrespected Sailor or someone that truly loves fountain pens. There is a market for both. At the age of 59, I've been using fountain pens since 1977 and one of my favorite pens is a Speedball with a crisp 1.1 ...I have pens that cost a few dollars and some that are $200...it all comes down to user experience. Thank you for an interesting comparison. 🖋🕊📓
@@ellistreloar2047 And that looks to be so. You might want to get that news out to the hundreds of reviewers that compare it to the 2000. But, since the 2000 is the pen most are familiar with....it is the one chosen for comparison.
This is a great comparison video. I tried my first Jinhao pens yesterday and I enjoyed the writing experience. They are very good for the price. Sailor pens are great but they do break the bank.
For me the total writing experience is always the deciding factor. Having said that the next thing to consider is how much one is willing to spend on a pen.
Thank you for this video! I've recently become interested in fountian pens. Sailor Pens have very pretty colors, but are out of my price range. It's good to know there us a solid dupe! Look forward to more of your videos!
Same here, I can’t bring myself to spend $300 on a pen (other things, maybe, but not a pen😅) though they are very pretty. I’m always happy to see comparative options.
I have a couple of the Sailor PGS pens, both of which I have sent to a nib meister for smoothing, as I don’t like the regular Sailor feedback. So I’ve ordered two of the Jinhao 82s, one with a Fine nib and the other with an Extra Fine nib, to try. They’re so affordable! And I’ll mix and match the caps, as one is pale blue and the other translucent green, both with gold toned hardware. If they’re as smooth a nib as the other Jinhao pens I own, I’ll like them more than the Sailors.
These pens look really cute and the color selection is quite good as well. They write very well that I am getting another Jinhao 82 in a different color and point size.
@@tiramisucocolands7952 Yes, and they write beautifully. The EF is a tiny bit scratchy, but the F is very smooth. Both are decently wet. I'm impressed.
@@tiramisucocolands7952 yes they have. They’re very good. I ordered an extra fine to compare with the fine nib. The extra fine nib is toothy. So I think it’s better to get it in a Fine nib. The fine nib is very smooth.
Thank you for this very nice review. I especially enjoyed your discussion of the writing experience with these two pens. If I may, I suggest you try a little Micromax 8000 grit on the Jinhao nib. It will still be smooth but you may increase the feedback to your liking.
My first fountain pen is Jinhao 82. I have had the privilege of using numerous pens since then, but this particular pen always manages to surprise me. The nib is simply exquisite, especially considering its price point. However, I do wish that it had a non-screw cap, as it would then be perfect.
It is lovely! I love the Sakura color. It doesn’t really shade as much as other sailor inks. That may depend on the nib size too. There are some shading but not as pronounced as other sailor chroma Shading inks if that makes sense.
It is not a tight fit, the Jinhao 992 has the same cap thread that can be screwed on to Sailor's body, but the inner cap is what stops it from properly fitting and closing, and they are different in length; honestly I'd say that's good enough on Jinhao's part. Can't replace that Sailor feedback though(and it doesn't have to be gold nib; their premium steel offerings are just as good)
While Jinhao simply blew German and Italian pens out of the water. Sailor pens defeat everything beyond their price points. They are known for excellent quality control compared to Visconti.
I never thought it would be so many videos comparing to the Sailor Pro Gear with the Jinhao 82. Is Jinhao running with the big boys now (without breaking the bank)???
Jinhao can't compare to a sailor at all. They may have a chance if they have a gold nib that is well made. No steel Jinhao can even compare. I'm not denouncing Jinhao are they are amazing for the price point. Sailor pens are still superior because I have used pens from both companies. I would love to see what a gold nib Jinhao would be like though. I may even try it if the price is low enough.
I started young with fountain pens in grade school but I got really frustrated with it because I didn’t know how to maintain the pen. It was only recently that I started using it again mainly to practice calligraphy. I do love journaling and it helps me a lot to write scriptures. They are usually from my quite time. I write those that I’d like to meditate on. Thanks for supporting my channel.
@@tintanna4793 You are welcome! I use my pens to write my scriptures I meditate on and write in my journal about what is happening in my spiritual walk with Jesus.
I wonder how this Jinhao would compare to the Sailor steel nib Lecoule. Might be a closer comparison. I have heard that the Lecoule doesn’t have as much feedback as the PGS. I plan to buy both the Jinhao and the PGS. You can’t have too many FP’s. ;)
I don’t have a sailor steel nib fountain pen, but I have a sailor tipped stainless steel nib dip pen in F, may be that is comparable to other sailor steel nibs. That one is very smooth too it doesn’t have the pencil like feedback of sailor gold nibs. And I agree you can’t have too many FP or inks. :)
Steel nib pens should never cost $50 or more unless it's a diamond 580 because of it's features. Jinhao will force lazy German and Italian pen makers to innovate and make better products unless they wish for their business to plunder. At least Japanese pens are actually good like sailors.
The purple pen holder is from Galen Leather. It’s included in the zippered A5 folio that they sell. It’s detachable so you can choose to keep it in the folio or you can choose to use it as a pen holder when you’re writing and you use multiple FP.
my Sailor Pro gear is super dry, and writes like EF . im constantly struggling with it, I returned one pen to the story and got second, but the same issue again. It feels that this pen has reduced flow. Maybe it needs super-wet ink to perform properly?
What nib do you have on it? I have Medium fine and Fine and never had a problem with it. Both write very nice and juicy. May be try switching to a more lubricated ink. Are you using an ink converter or a cartridge?
I think the nib of the 82 is exactly the same you can find in Jinhao 992s (nib #5). The nibs are decent but they suffer from ink starvation after continuous writing a longer text. Not a big deal, one needs to rest the pen for a minute or two. I also have a Sailor Pro Gear Slim but I cannot compare it to the Jinhao as they have completely different nibs (regular "M" vs. music nib). Thank you for the comparison! Greetings from Poland!
I haven’t used it for an extended period, I may shake the pen a little bit to get the ink flowing if I feel that it’s getting dry. Have you tried thoroughly cleaning your Jinhao 82? I like to completely disassemble my pen for a thorough clean. But since I just got this, I haven’t tried it yet.
You may find the ink starvation problem ends with a thorough flush with a soapy solution. I use household ammonia 1:10 water and a drop of dishwash liquid for every 300ml of solution. I have two Jinhao 80s two 992s and an 82 and all will write continuously eg 5-6 A5 personal journal pages
The $100-700 Japanese pen space is full of overpriced pens. Look at the sailor PGS to the KOP. The only change is a larger nib and body, leading to a 4x increase in price. The only thing that makes a larger plastic pen more expensive the larger nib, but the pen is priced way higher than that.
The price difference between these pens is a lot, I agree. I will not get a KOP, way out of my price range. There’s a lot of factors that contribute to the price of the pen. Material is one, labor is one, then you have demand and supply, importation and the taxes that goes into that and the retailer mark up as well because they have employees they have to make money. So if you add all of these together that explains why the price is wayyyy more than the actual production cost.
Yeah I agree that it's pretty dumb for sailor to do that. That's why I only bought the 1911 standard. Because it's silly to charge $700 because the nib is larger.
I bought my first jinhao after I watched this video accidentally, then I bought more after I tried my first Jinhao. so, if you want to stick on or loyal to the brand, do not try. or do not watch it.
Uhm not necessarily, for me the overall writing experience and writing quality are factors to consider. More expensive doesn’t necessarily mean better quality. For instance my Lamy pen is more expensive but I prefer the Metropolitan more than Lamy.
Smoother is not necessarily better. There are more aspects of the writing that contribute to overall writing quality. But smoothness is definitely one factor to consider.
The monopoly of big brands from Japan, will come to an end. These Japanese brands were fooling the common man by overcharging at will. Jinhao quality as compared to other big brands are almost same. I have high regards for jinhao brand.
This fool is poor and as well as iliterate...😂😂😂 doesnt know a thing about premium pens....u love jinhao...coz u r poor...that doesnt mean japanese brands are fooling anyone!! Stop judging the best in the business solely on ur poor wallet!!
You're wrong. Someone is suffering in a badly paid job in China for these products to be bought by us. The Japanese have basic standards for their workers and create luxury, quality products that last a lifetime.
@@robinanna5531 You don't know that about Jinhao. Wages are lower there, that's not revelatory. Japan is a developed country, of course wages are higher. But it needs to be emphasized that Sailor as a company is unprofitable and without certain guarantees from it's likely acquirer, Plus, would cease to exist in it's current form. Bankruptcy, reorganization, closure. Not enough pens are sold to support Sailor's expensive labor force...it's just economics.
@@buck-pucker So the part about their current business model is fair, Japanese business culture is unusual in it's way of being very slow changing. However, that's not what you said originally that I disagreed with. I see no reason that Jinhao should be any different from the pervasive exploitative business models that are present under the CCP.
Your bracelet is annoying! I have the 82 and there isn't much feedback at all. I have two Sailor's and the feedback on them are too annoying. I will gravitate to the Jinhao 82 now as my daily driver. My Sailor pro slim and regular size will probably be sitting in my draw now. In fact I have ended up purchasing 5 Jinhao 82 pens in different colors.
This jinhao is pure counterfeit. it's a terrible practice, and seeing you promoting it is very sad. As all those comments from people throwing themselves at a $10 pen, unable to appreciate the true quality of things. Really disrespectful. No Real fountain pen lover would buy this counterfeit.
3 of the 4 Sailors I own arrived with misaligned tines - one of them was ~$300. The Jinhao 82 wrote right out of the box, no issues. If misaligned tines is the "true quality" of things, then I guess I don't appreciate it at all!
I have many lower end Pilots so I personally do appreciate the quality that goes into Japanese pens, no question. However I draw the line at Sailor’s overpricing. I have 5 82s and don’t feel badly at all. There is absolutely no reason that pen needs to cost $400 almost. It is plastic. And don’t argue you’re paying for the nib until recently, a Pilot E95 was $150, with a 14K nib. The same amount of gold that the Sailor’s have. I love this hobby and I hate people being elitist about it. Many would love to get into this new hobby but can’t because people like you tell them they need to spend half their rent or car payment on a new pen. Don’t gate-keep. This hobby is for everyone regardless of wealth.
@@ladyredl3210 It's not about elitism or having expensive fountain pens. I totally enjoy some pen under 50$, even under 10$! It's about counterfeit. Buying chinese counterfeit is a shame. A Sailor counterfeit or Lamy, Montblanc, Esterbrook, whatever, it's still a shame! There are tones of nice pens, costing a few $ you can enjoy without buying stolen designs. If you still buy this one, it's because you like the Sailor pro gear. Then poeple explains they buy it because Sailor is shitty and Jinhao is wonderful? So ironic...
@@dianouki00 I’m not arguing with you. The reality is that the pens are vastly overpriced, and you’re justifying your elitism by hiding behind the fact that counterfeiting is unethical. It’s what aboutism, and I’m not arguing about it. I don’t buy Sailor pens because of how much they cost in comparison to Pilot and Platinum, and because I don’t like the feedback. The 82s also remind me of Peras. I have small hands I enjoy that size of pen. So you’re incorrect. I, for one am not buying 82s because I like Sailor and want a cheaper copy. The same way I didn’t buy an X750 because I thought it would be just like a Mont Blanc 149.
Since I can't afford a Pro Gear I would probably go for the Lecoule instead. Both the Lecoule and the Jinhao is on my wishlist so I might try them some day. As you say it doesn't hurt as much, either financially or emotionally, to loose or break a Jinhao. Very good comparison! 😇🩷🙏🙌
Thank you for watching. I find that stainless steel Sailor nibs work just as well! I have one in fine nib and I love it!! Jinhao doesn’t last and breaks easily due to cheap materials. Sailor of course makes better quality pens whether stainless steel or gold nibs.
There are only so many shapes and designs one can use to make a fountain open. Jinhao has indeed made it's own unique designs. A Sailor customer will not be swayed from the brand because of a lookalike. It's okay to have a Lamy 2000 and a Jinhao 80. Both can be appreciated. I own 2 Sailor lower end pens. They are not to my liking as far as how they feel on the page. This channel has not disrespected Sailor or someone that truly loves fountain pens. There is a market for both. At the age of 59, I've been using fountain pens since 1977 and one of my favorite pens is a Speedball with a crisp 1.1 ...I have pens that cost a few dollars and some that are $200...it all comes down to user experience. Thank you for an interesting comparison. 🖋🕊📓
Thank you! I appreciate your comment. I really tried to do a fair and honest comparison.
@@tintanna4793 You succeeded. 🖋🌈
The Jinhao 80 is inspired by the Lamy 80 not the L2K.
@@ellistreloar2047 And that looks to be so. You might want to get that news out to the hundreds of reviewers that compare it to the 2000. But, since the 2000 is the pen most are familiar with....it is the one chosen for comparison.
@@stargazer1359 Only because most reviewers are lazy and don’t do their homework. The differences between the pens are very significant.
This is a great comparison video. I tried my first Jinhao pens yesterday and I enjoyed the writing experience. They are very good for the price. Sailor pens are great but they do break the bank.
Thank you. 😊
Thanks for the review! For the price difference and the smoothness (less feedbackyness) the Jinhao sounds like a clear winner (at least from my pov)
For me the total writing experience is always the deciding factor. Having said that the next thing to consider is how much one is willing to spend on a pen.
Thank you for this video! I've recently become interested in fountian pens. Sailor Pens have very pretty colors, but are out of my price range. It's good to know there us a solid dupe! Look forward to more of your videos!
Same here, I can’t bring myself to spend $300 on a pen (other things, maybe, but not a pen😅) though they are very pretty. I’m always happy to see comparative options.
Omg, the Sailor Yozakura is so beautiful. 😍😍😭
Yes!! The ink is beautiful! Love it! :)
Your ink choices are sooo pretty
Thanks!
Nice video and comparison.
I think you did a honest attempt to make us feel what your feelings are for those two pens
Friendly regards
I tried to do a fair comparison.
Thanks for the reviews and comparison between the pens. Much appreciated 😄.
Glad you like it.
I have a couple of the Sailor PGS pens, both of which I have sent to a nib meister for smoothing, as I don’t like the regular Sailor feedback. So I’ve ordered two of the Jinhao 82s, one with a Fine nib and the other with an Extra Fine nib, to try. They’re so affordable! And I’ll mix and match the caps, as one is pale blue and the other translucent green, both with gold toned hardware. If they’re as smooth a nib as the other Jinhao pens I own, I’ll like them more than the Sailors.
These pens look really cute and the color selection is quite good as well. They write very well that I am getting another Jinhao 82 in a different color and point size.
Have your pens arrived? How do they write?
@@tiramisucocolands7952 Yes, and they write beautifully. The EF is a tiny bit scratchy, but the F is very smooth. Both are decently wet. I'm impressed.
@@tiramisucocolands7952 yes they have. They’re very good. I ordered an extra fine to compare with the fine nib. The extra fine nib is toothy. So I think it’s better to get it in a Fine nib. The fine nib is very smooth.
Thank you for this very nice review. I especially enjoyed your discussion of the writing experience with these two pens. If I may, I suggest you try a little Micromax 8000 grit on the Jinhao nib. It will still be smooth but you may increase the feedback to your liking.
Thank you! I really tried to compare the writing experience using these 2 pens.
Sounds interesting I shall try that out.
I'm gonna get that Jinhao 82 soon. Thank you.
Enjoy! Let me know what you think of them.
I enjoy beautiful, small pens. Cool vid.
Thanks!
Thank you for this comparison!
You’re very welcome!
My first fountain pen is Jinhao 82. I have had the privilege of using numerous pens since then, but this particular pen always manages to surprise me. The nib is simply exquisite, especially considering its price point. However, I do wish that it had a non-screw cap, as it would then be perfect.
I agree. The nib is good for the price. Thanks for watching! Feel free to see my other videos.
Is that a pink with gold nib or silver
Great review Anna! ❤️👍🏻
Thanks!! 😍
Nice demo. Jinhao looks great ofcourse sailor
Thanks!
That sailor ink is lovely. Does it shade? Hard to tell. Great review!
It is lovely! I love the Sakura color. It doesn’t really shade as much as other sailor inks. That may depend on the nib size too. There are some shading but not as pronounced as other sailor chroma Shading inks if that makes sense.
It is not a tight fit, the Jinhao 992 has the same cap thread that can be screwed on to Sailor's body, but the inner cap is what stops it from properly fitting and closing, and they are different in length; honestly I'd say that's good enough on Jinhao's part. Can't replace that Sailor feedback though(and it doesn't have to be gold nib; their premium steel offerings are just as good)
Thanks for pointing that out. It actually makes sense. I haven’t thought about the inner cap.
While Jinhao simply blew German and Italian pens out of the water.
Sailor pens defeat everything beyond their price points. They are known for excellent quality control compared to Visconti.
I never thought it would be so many videos comparing to the Sailor Pro Gear with the Jinhao 82.
Is Jinhao running with the big boys now (without breaking the bank)???
I don’t know but it sure is popular especially since this 82s are coming up with really fun colors.
Jinhao can't compare to a sailor at all. They may have a chance if they have a gold nib that is well made. No steel Jinhao can even compare. I'm not denouncing Jinhao are they are amazing for the price point. Sailor pens are still superior because I have used pens from both companies.
I would love to see what a gold nib Jinhao would be like though. I may even try it if the price is low enough.
I like the jinhao pen
I see your quoted scriptures, I am your sister in the Lord, so I subscribed, and I have used a fountain pen since I was 16. I am now 54 years old
I started young with fountain pens in grade school but I got really frustrated with it because I didn’t know how to maintain the pen. It was only recently that I started using it again mainly to practice calligraphy. I do love journaling and it helps me a lot to write scriptures. They are usually from my quite time. I write those that I’d like to meditate on. Thanks for supporting my channel.
@@tintanna4793 You are welcome! I use my pens to write my scriptures I meditate on and write in my journal about what is happening in my spiritual walk with Jesus.
When you write things down you tend to remember them better.
Yes!
I wonder how this Jinhao would compare to the Sailor steel nib Lecoule. Might be a closer comparison. I have heard that the Lecoule doesn’t have as much feedback as the PGS. I plan to buy both the Jinhao and the PGS. You can’t have too many FP’s. ;)
I don’t have a sailor steel nib fountain pen, but I have a sailor tipped stainless steel nib dip pen in F, may be that is comparable to other sailor steel nibs. That one is very smooth too it doesn’t have the pencil like feedback of sailor gold nibs. And I agree you can’t have too many FP or inks. :)
Steel nib pens should never cost $50 or more unless it's a diamond 580 because of it's features.
Jinhao will force lazy German and Italian pen makers to innovate and make better products unless they wish for their business to plunder. At least Japanese pens are actually good like sailors.
Thanks for the review! 🎉 Can you let me know what pen case is featured in the video, please? Thank you!
The purple pen holder is from Galen Leather. It’s included in the zippered A5 folio that they sell. It’s detachable so you can choose to keep it in the folio or you can choose to use it as a pen holder when you’re writing and you use multiple FP.
@@tintanna4793 Thank you!!
my Sailor Pro gear is super dry, and writes like EF . im constantly struggling with it, I returned one pen to the story and got second, but the same issue again. It feels that this pen has reduced flow. Maybe it needs super-wet ink to perform properly?
What nib do you have on it? I have Medium fine and Fine and never had a problem with it. Both write very nice and juicy. May be try switching to a more lubricated ink. Are you using an ink converter or a cartridge?
I think the nib of the 82 is exactly the same you can find in Jinhao 992s (nib #5). The nibs are decent but they suffer from ink starvation after continuous writing a longer text. Not a big deal, one needs to rest the pen for a minute or two. I also have a Sailor Pro Gear Slim but I cannot compare it to the Jinhao as they have completely different nibs (regular "M" vs. music nib).
Thank you for the comparison! Greetings from Poland!
I haven’t used it for an extended period, I may shake the pen a little bit to get the ink flowing if I feel that it’s getting dry. Have you tried thoroughly cleaning your Jinhao 82? I like to completely disassemble my pen for a thorough clean. But since I just got this, I haven’t tried it yet.
You may find the ink starvation problem ends with a thorough flush with a soapy solution. I use household ammonia 1:10 water and a drop of dishwash liquid for every 300ml of solution. I have two Jinhao 80s two 992s and an 82 and all will write continuously eg 5-6 A5 personal journal pages
@@ellistreloar2047 Thank you, I will try it next week.
very informative video
Glad you liked it
Can you send the link on Amazon where you bought yours?
Which pen are you referring to? The Jinhao Pen? Give me a moment to look at my past order so I can give you the link.
www.amazon.com/dp/B0BN1THQZV
The $100-700 Japanese pen space is full of overpriced pens. Look at the sailor PGS to the KOP. The only change is a larger nib and body, leading to a 4x increase in price. The only thing that makes a larger plastic pen more expensive the larger nib, but the pen is priced way higher than that.
The price difference between these pens is a lot, I agree. I will not get a KOP, way out of my price range. There’s a lot of factors that contribute to the price of the pen. Material is one, labor is one, then you have demand and supply, importation and the taxes that goes into that and the retailer mark up as well because they have employees they have to make money. So if you add all of these together that explains why the price is wayyyy more than the actual production cost.
Yeah I agree that it's pretty dumb for sailor to do that. That's why I only bought the 1911 standard. Because it's silly to charge $700 because the nib is larger.
I bought my first jinhao after I watched this video accidentally, then I bought more after I tried my first Jinhao. so, if you want to stick on or loyal to the brand, do not try. or do not watch it.
Glad you liked it. Please feel free to check out my other videos.
Great idea for a comparison but then you throw it out the window for using 2 completely different inks. Uggh!
Sorry about that. Just so you know. I have another video that showcase just that. Comparing these two pens using the same ink as you wish.
Sorry meat with gold or silver hard ware
It’s pastel pink in gold trim.
So people buy more expensive pen for status but not for smoother nib? 😂😂😂😂
Uhm not necessarily, for me the overall writing experience and writing quality are factors to consider. More expensive doesn’t necessarily mean better quality. For instance my Lamy pen is more expensive but I prefer the Metropolitan more than Lamy.
So you get smoother nib with lot cheaper pen! 😂😂😂😂
Smoother is not necessarily better. There are more aspects of the writing that contribute to overall writing quality. But smoothness is definitely one factor to consider.
i have hundreds of jinhaos, no joke, hundreds & a few sailors ....i had hundreds too if it was for that pricetag
I would buy more Sailor Pens particularly the mini. I just love them but they’re hurting my pocket book! Hehe 😜
The monopoly of big brands from Japan, will come to an end. These Japanese brands were fooling the common man by overcharging at will. Jinhao quality as compared to other big brands are almost same. I have high regards for jinhao brand.
This is a borderline deranged take. Learn how luxury markets work. Sailor is unprofitable. No one is fooling anyone.
This fool is poor and as well as iliterate...😂😂😂 doesnt know a thing about premium pens....u love jinhao...coz u r poor...that doesnt mean japanese brands are fooling anyone!! Stop judging the best in the business solely on ur poor wallet!!
You're wrong. Someone is suffering in a badly paid job in China for these products to be bought by us. The Japanese have basic standards for their workers and create luxury, quality products that last a lifetime.
@@robinanna5531 You don't know that about Jinhao. Wages are lower there, that's not revelatory. Japan is a developed country, of course wages are higher. But it needs to be emphasized that Sailor as a company is unprofitable and without certain guarantees from it's likely acquirer, Plus, would cease to exist in it's current form. Bankruptcy, reorganization, closure. Not enough pens are sold to support Sailor's expensive labor force...it's just economics.
@@buck-pucker So the part about their current business model is fair, Japanese business culture is unusual in it's way of being very slow changing. However, that's not what you said originally that I disagreed with.
I see no reason that Jinhao should be any different from the pervasive exploitative business models that are present under the CCP.
Your bracelet is annoying! I have the 82 and there isn't much feedback at all. I have two Sailor's and the feedback on them are too annoying. I will gravitate to the Jinhao 82 now as my daily driver. My Sailor pro slim and regular size will probably be sitting in my draw now. In fact I have ended up purchasing 5 Jinhao 82 pens in different colors.
Looks like I’m getting other colors and nib points as well. Can’t discount the fact that it’s really an excellent writer.
This jinhao is pure counterfeit. it's a terrible practice, and seeing you promoting it is very sad. As all those comments from people throwing themselves at a $10 pen, unable to appreciate the true quality of things. Really disrespectful. No Real fountain pen lover would buy this counterfeit.
3 of the 4 Sailors I own arrived with misaligned tines - one of them was ~$300. The Jinhao 82 wrote right out of the box, no issues. If misaligned tines is the "true quality" of things, then I guess I don't appreciate it at all!
I have many lower end Pilots so I personally do appreciate the quality that goes into Japanese pens, no question. However I draw the line at Sailor’s overpricing. I have 5 82s and don’t feel badly at all. There is absolutely no reason that pen needs to cost $400 almost. It is plastic. And don’t argue you’re paying for the nib until recently, a Pilot E95 was $150, with a 14K nib. The same amount of gold that the Sailor’s have.
I love this hobby and I hate people being elitist about it. Many would love to get into this new hobby but can’t because people like you tell them they need to spend half their rent or car payment on a new pen. Don’t gate-keep. This hobby is for everyone regardless of wealth.
@@ladyredl3210 It's not about elitism or having expensive fountain pens. I totally enjoy some pen under 50$, even under 10$! It's about counterfeit. Buying chinese counterfeit is a shame. A Sailor counterfeit or Lamy, Montblanc, Esterbrook, whatever, it's still a shame! There are tones of nice pens, costing a few $ you can enjoy without buying stolen designs. If you still buy this one, it's because you like the Sailor pro gear. Then poeple explains they buy it because Sailor is shitty and Jinhao is wonderful? So ironic...
@@dianouki00 I’m not arguing with you. The reality is that the pens are vastly overpriced, and you’re justifying your elitism by hiding behind the fact that counterfeiting is unethical. It’s what aboutism, and I’m not arguing about it. I don’t buy Sailor pens because of how much they cost in comparison to Pilot and Platinum, and because I don’t like the feedback. The 82s also remind me of Peras. I have small hands I enjoy that size of pen. So you’re incorrect. I, for one am not buying 82s because I like Sailor and want a cheaper copy. The same way I didn’t buy an X750 because I thought it would be just like a Mont Blanc 149.
@@dianouki00 It would be counterfeit if Jinhao imprinted Sailor on the cap band.
Since I can't afford a Pro Gear I would probably go for the Lecoule instead. Both the Lecoule and the Jinhao is on my wishlist so I might try them some day. As you say it doesn't hurt as much, either financially or emotionally, to loose or break a Jinhao. Very good comparison! 😇🩷🙏🙌
Thank you for watching. I find that stainless steel Sailor nibs work just as well! I have one in fine nib and I love it!! Jinhao doesn’t last and breaks easily due to cheap materials. Sailor of course makes better quality pens whether stainless steel or gold nibs.