Commander X16 is HERE! The Modern Retro PC's Design Secrets Revealed

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  • Опубліковано 13 тра 2024
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    Exclusive first look at the full final X16 retail version with the final cartridge ported case, latest PCB & firmware, what’s changed since I headed up the design, artwork reveal, & more! 🧑‍🏭 Thanks to PCBWay.com for supplying the X16's great PCBs! 📺 7-day free trial: Ad-free early access to our videos + double the content 👉 / perifractic 🚀 Your support helps us keep the channel & nostalgia alive 📼
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    MENU:
    0:00 Teaser & Intro
    1:25 Why I joined the team
    2:41 What I designed
    5:53 Why I left the team
    6:33 Keyboard Unboxing
    8:03 Chickenlips PETSCIIBOARD
    10:23 Manual & Artwork/Merch Reveal
    12:45 Final Motherboard Unboxing & Tour
    18:59 VERA Module & FPGA Discussion
    21:05 Motherboard Assembly
    21:39 Case Unboxing & Assembly
    27:06 Power Up & Playtest
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 304

  • @RetroRecipes
    @RetroRecipes  Місяць тому +34

    Thanks for watching! You could win the X16 or KITTesla at raffall.com/retrorecipes ... or even both! Just don't get them mixed up. 🖥💨 🚓

    • @carledwards9477
      @carledwards9477 Місяць тому +4

      I always wanted a C64, but it was beyond our means back in the day.
      I entered the raffle - if there is a chance that I could relive my youth AND get to enjoy a project this amazing, it's well worth it.
      Thank you Perifractic - you are one of the top YT creators. Definitely one of the most human!

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Місяць тому +4

      @@carledwards9477 Thank you for your kind words! ...apart from when I'm AI ;)

    • @user-vq1js6lm4f
      @user-vq1js6lm4f Місяць тому

      can you enter in canada?

    • @kellerkind6169
      @kellerkind6169 Місяць тому +3

      I REALLY like that earlier case design as shown at 3:41.....soooo sexy!

    • @LordOrwell
      @LordOrwell Місяць тому +1

      so if it's 8 bit, why isn't it the commander x8?

  • @hnmcclain
    @hnmcclain Місяць тому +23

    Bro, I'm and EE and CS schooled engineer and have worked in what can only be called "I.T." for 30+ years. I'll be 50 soon and you name it, I've done it. But you really got my attention when you mentioned your late mom. I too lost my mom, back in 2020, and I swear, I had to put all my projects on hold. Good to see you stayed strong, did what needed to be done and got back at it. She'd be proud. Can't wait to dig into this system of yours.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Місяць тому +6

      Thank you for your kind words and I'm sorry for your loss 🙏

  • @DiestroCorleone
    @DiestroCorleone Місяць тому +29

    So proud of the team for the results. I can remember David commenting years ago, in several videos, about 'if I designed my own retro computer'.
    And now it's here :)

    • @jstro-hobbytech
      @jstro-hobbytech 18 днів тому

      And obscenely expensive. I lived through those old days and hated the hours spent waiting that ill never get back. I gave away a new in box c64 last year because I had no interest in it other than recapping it first. I like my 4090 haha

  • @davidmoore5925
    @davidmoore5925 Місяць тому +44

    Thanks for spoiling the end of the very hungry caterpillar, I'm only half way through.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Місяць тому +13

      I apologise very munch

    • @MarcWeertsMusic
      @MarcWeertsMusic Місяць тому +10

      It’s not that great. There’s a big hole in the plot…

    • @Robbnlinzi
      @Robbnlinzi Місяць тому +3

      @@MarcWeertsMusicoh get out of here!!! lol

    • @paszTube
      @paszTube 29 днів тому +5

      I bet all you guys are dads

    • @John.B.Jenkins
      @John.B.Jenkins 28 днів тому +1

      @@MarcWeertsMusic LOLZ! YES! Best Dad joke I've heard today. Definitely gonna file that in the ole Brain Rolodex

  • @esvinyard
    @esvinyard Місяць тому +15

    Thanks for sharing your artwork for the X16 manual. It's great! I've been enjoying my Commander X16 for a couple months now, and really appreciate all the work y'all put into it.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Місяць тому +1

      Thank you!! Glad the collective effort is appreciated!

  • @chmarr
    @chmarr Місяць тому +12

    i am so sorry for the loss of your mum, i hope your ok

  • @SproutyPottedPlant
    @SproutyPottedPlant 28 днів тому +8

    The FM chip and PSG combo is the best part of the design for me ❤ very Mega Drive like sound and with the extra channels there is plenty of space for big chords and epic percussion 👍

  • @radman999
    @radman999 29 днів тому +6

    I am always floored by the production value of your videos. Some of the best on UA-cam.

  • @RealActorRob
    @RealActorRob Місяць тому +18

    I helped populate chips and test several of the boards at David’s house about a month ago. So I literally had a hand in a few. Lol.

    • @juniorxranger
      @juniorxranger 25 днів тому +1

      I grew up in K********e. You have no idea how proud this makes me.

  • @jparky1972
    @jparky1972 Місяць тому +27

    I have to agree with some of the other comments about the case.
    The Perifractic case looks so much better than the one shipped.
    It looks like a 'Good Enough' solution instead of doing it 'right'. Especially when you showed the faults of the rear of thr case as well as the power / reset buttons being so close to eachother.
    I appreciate they are trying to keep the costs down. Especially as the costs have spiraled away from Davids initial cost goal.

    • @AutoAndChill
      @AutoAndChill Місяць тому +2

      Still hopeful for a version 2.0

  • @RetroResurrectionAI
    @RetroResurrectionAI 24 дні тому +3

    I got my X16 two months ago and it's still sitting in the back. Thanks to this video I will break it out this weekend and finally get to try it out.

  • @LambdaHalbe
    @LambdaHalbe Місяць тому +5

    My X16 is just mounted with some standoff screws on a nicely looking wooden board. Sticked some rubber feet underneath and made a strain reflief for the power cord.

  • @buidelrat132
    @buidelrat132 26 днів тому +8

    The "9-pin guy's dream computer" 😂

  • @sellophanesun
    @sellophanesun 29 днів тому +4

    Nicely done man, a perfect example of how to highlight your achievements without diminishing those of others. Thanks!

  • @ShR33k
    @ShR33k 28 днів тому +5

    That concept X16 manual art is stunning! If that doesn't see light of day, then something is wrong! That machine is a thing of beauty. I'm currently trying to learn 6502 assembly programming... hopefully from there, I'll learn Z80 (as I had an Amstrad CPC 464 & later a 6128 as a kid). David and the team have done a fantastic job bringing this machine to life! Well done everyone!!! 👏

  • @RyanMercer
    @RyanMercer Місяць тому +32

    Woo comments are back!

    • @GAMECLOSET
      @GAMECLOSET Місяць тому +2

      Yes. I’m happy for that too.

    • @tehLilaQ
      @tehLilaQ Місяць тому +1

      Why were they gone anyway?

    • @RyanMercer
      @RyanMercer Місяць тому +1

      @@tehLilaQ trolls apparently

  • @RoyEltham
    @RoyEltham Місяць тому +8

    I love my Commander X16! I got the Black Lazer3D case. It really is a beautiful board.

  • @TheducksOrg
    @TheducksOrg 29 днів тому +4

    Congratulations on babyfractic! I know this is old news and the chances of you seeing it are also low - I've been watching your videos for several years, but have had to cut down on the youtube since my wife and I had our daughter back in 2022 - I'm only just getting back to it now and I'm super happy for you all :)

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  29 днів тому +2

      Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹

  • @ScavengerFX
    @ScavengerFX 19 днів тому

    I loved this video! Such good work! I entered the Raffle! Good luck everyone!

  • @GeorgesChannel
    @GeorgesChannel Місяць тому +3

    Wonderful review Perifractic! Really love your artwork on this machine and now i understand the Logo and the name (X16). This project is a really gift to the whole retrocommunity.

  • @Wythaneye
    @Wythaneye 27 днів тому +3

    I'm looking forward to the spiral bound manual(s). Thanks for the update, I'm glad they're still in the works.

  • @hanleyforhire
    @hanleyforhire 29 днів тому +4

    Really wonderful work. Hoping to acquire one of these someday, and I already grabbed some raffle tickets.
    The bridge being created by this project really hits home. I remember playing games like Double Dare and The Railroad Works on my grandfather’s C64, and at that age it felt like it was powered by magic. He would load up his saved railroad, and I would be amazed at the whole process.
    I know you must hear this all the time, but thanks to you and your family for making these videos. They are truly meaningful, and your viewers will always remember how you made them feel.

  • @lupedarksnout
    @lupedarksnout Місяць тому +5

    I would so buy Puppyfractic's spiral-bound MAPPING the X16. Show me how to get the most out of this new machine! Locations I can affect, the new BASIC commands, the built-in programs, dealing with VERA, getting sounds to play, the new opcodes, reading mouse and controllers, raster and timer interrupts! Woof!

  • @drtaverner
    @drtaverner 16 днів тому

    I can't believe this made me cry. Actually cry. This is an amazing achievement guys. I'm just in awe.

  • @chrissawyer1484
    @chrissawyer1484 Місяць тому +2

    It's here! Can't wait!

  • @guystevens162
    @guystevens162 Місяць тому +2

    wow thats some great work guys. Love the sound so 80"s with a modern touch.

  • @coffeecuparcade
    @coffeecuparcade Місяць тому +13

    I've been watching this project since the start and I gotta say I love your case much more than the official one. Yours had style and accommodated everything in the original design. The official one seems to lack planning and feels like a "good enough for now" approach. Bummer. Might be a cool project once the pricing and design reaches maturity. Love your X logo and artworks! As always great video and thank you for sharing with all of us.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Місяць тому +5

      Thank you for your kind words sir

    • @RyanMartinez
      @RyanMartinez Місяць тому +1

      I've been following this lightly (not exactly paying attention, but watching random videos of it when I catch them), but conceivably you can still make your own based on the needs of the board, yes? Kind of like other projects that have come up recently?

  • @merman1974
    @merman1974 Місяць тому +3

    The case looks great, nice to see the vision become a reality.

  • @FrazerSmithsChannel
    @FrazerSmithsChannel Місяць тому +9

    Perfect use of Vic and Bob. Chapeaux

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Місяць тому +7

      I have an incredible Vic Reeves first hand story. Might have to share it on the channel some day... though it's a little risqué, and long.

    • @FrazerSmithsChannel
      @FrazerSmithsChannel Місяць тому +3

      @@RetroRecipes Oh please do. As a huge Jim and Bob fan I would love to hear it.

  • @apollolux
    @apollolux 21 день тому

    A C64-like with a retro Yamaha FM audio chip. What a time to be alive. :)

  • @MarcKloos
    @MarcKloos Місяць тому +6

    When you thought that the school yard fights between Speccies and Commies were behind us for the past 40 years, it's starting all over again with the ZX Spectrum Next and the Commander X16 🤣

    • @TheJeremyHolloway
      @TheJeremyHolloway Місяць тому

      You’re leaving the Atari 8-Bits out of that brawl when we have the official Atari 400 Mini for sale, not to mention homebrew hardware like the Mini ITX “NUC” motherboards and 3D printed cases, 65816 CPU upgrades, the PokeyMAX sound chip upgrades, the SOFIA and other RGB video upgrade boards, and now the external repro 1090 Expansion PCB with hopefully the chassis on the way soon. Even SpartaDOS is still being actively developed.

    • @oldhedders
      @oldhedders Місяць тому +5

      I read this comment, thought "nonsense, we're all adults now", and then realised that I'm a Spectrum Next owner who is actually annoyed by how much better the X16's sound is.

    • @another3997
      @another3997 28 днів тому

      ​@@TheJeremyHollowayTo be fair, the Atari 400 mini is "just" an ARM based emulator in a particularly nice case, replicating original hardware... so not quite the same as the Next or the X16. Neither of which really appeal to me, even though the Next isa stunning looking machine. But as an Atari 8 bit fan, POKEY will always be the best, especially considering they were released a whole 3 years before the "Commode C64". 😉

  • @kitt28
    @kitt28 28 днів тому +2

    I think it was 1992 when I was a kid and got my first desktop, oh what we all accomplished years later, Thanks for sharing this

  • @ericwallace4985
    @ericwallace4985 Місяць тому +4

    I've been watching for years. Not a single disappointment .

  • @thomasfx3190
    @thomasfx3190 26 днів тому +1

    I was 12 when my brother and I got our C64. We had two 1541 disk drives and typed in hundreds of lines of basic out of commodore magazines, it was really fun and our IBM 370 programming Dad was very proud.

  • @fyreantz2555
    @fyreantz2555 Місяць тому +2

    Imagine how far we've come since the Vic-20. We can design and mail order circuit boards. Print our own cases. Write our own operating systems. We are in the golden age of personal technology.

  • @more.power.
    @more.power. Місяць тому +3

    Outstanding work Perifractic the team has built a gem of an 8 bit system. Cheers

  • @eskey691
    @eskey691 Місяць тому +2

    This looks out of this world and i love how everything has a name on the board, as for the keyboard i like it and the soft feel for the keys wouldn't bother me one bit if anything it would give me a more retro feel to it. As for the artwork HELL YEAH how cool is that pure 80s to 90s vibe an yes am thinking of getting a mug with it on. The sound it pumps out is pure class as well so all in all one cool bit of kit that said i'd add maybe a few more LED to it but how you had it setup was great. As always a super great video and am looking forward to seeing the next one so until then you all take care and have a great weekeend.

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Місяць тому +1

      Glad you like the machine and the vid!

  • @SelfIndulgentGamer
    @SelfIndulgentGamer 28 днів тому

    Feels like it's been ages for this to come into existence :)

  • @Capt.Marco-Hawk-L.L.A.P
    @Capt.Marco-Hawk-L.L.A.P Місяць тому +5

    Christian another awesome episode. your case design was far better, love the scifi pic you did for it, very awesome design

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Місяць тому +2

      Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹

  • @NocturnalMissSo
    @NocturnalMissSo Місяць тому +4

    Thats really cool, man. Nice job.

  • @youtubasoarus
    @youtubasoarus 27 днів тому

    Congrats! It looks awesome!

  • @thelaughingmanofficial
    @thelaughingmanofficial 16 днів тому

    Lovely use of Suno at the end for the song. 27:09

  • @ReedsRedactions
    @ReedsRedactions Місяць тому +3

    I was a bit skeptical of this product at first, but I'm actually really happy to see this thing released. You can tell that a lot of thought was put into it because the design is top notch! To be honest, I would prefer a strictly FPGA based system (for the sake of a future proofing), but you can never have enough of these products on the market. What I would really love to see is a brand new system that has the capability of replicating the HD2D pixel art style of modern day, but done so using 16-32 bit hardware.

  • @Eminem200183
    @Eminem200183 Місяць тому +2

    Oh wow! This is wonderful. The old Commodore was amazing back in the day and seeing the CommanderX16 is perfect. Btw gotta love PCBWay. Lol

  • @W3DRK
    @W3DRK 26 днів тому +2

    Very cool. I went the Foenix F256K route, and should hopefully be receiving mine next sometime next month. I preferred the all-in-one slab design, MMU banking scheme, stereo SIDs, and Tiny Vicky graphics solution...

  • @michaelcarey
    @michaelcarey Місяць тому +3

    Amazing! This is certainly on a want list for me! I think I'd re-do the switch wires... no need for them to be soooo long 🙂

  • @jose-miguelcolon6619
    @jose-miguelcolon6619 Місяць тому +1

    Great work & video!

  • @LambdaHalbe
    @LambdaHalbe Місяць тому +1

    Great work. I (aka "edrive" on the cx16 forum) just subbed.

  • @EmperorKonstantine01
    @EmperorKonstantine01 27 днів тому +1

    I love the sentiment and humour in your videos, and how you mix the old with the new.
    Mr.Perifractict are you able to do a video on the history of the facsimile machine maybe some time in the future, this was a fascinating invention and technology way back before the internet and sending email began. I was really hooked on this technology and it was also a new dimension that opened up so many windows of opportunity for us back in the 80’s. It was a cool part of our history. Even sending resumes to employers and friends. Sharing information and even sending pictures in black and white was quite amazing. Only you could feel and share how awesome this old technology was for us.😊

  • @sarreqteryx
    @sarreqteryx Місяць тому +5

    15:50 hope you've put that last ¼MB RAM in correctly before turning the system on.
    27:35 …well, at least it didn't short out

  • @SoulPoetryandOtherWorks
    @SoulPoetryandOtherWorks Місяць тому +3

    What a great sound experience from this machine. A very impressive project which has been brought to life by you all. Just add a mechanical keyboard and that would be a seriously amazing 8-bit esque computing experience.
    So the Commander X16 has been conceptualized as an X-Wing destroyer craft in your illustration. That should make Darth Sidious weep in terror.
    Nice video Perifractic and a fantastic machine that you have all brought into being using retro midichlorians no doubt. Just remember to set the parity bit.

  • @PassifloraCerulea
    @PassifloraCerulea 15 днів тому

    First off: artists are amazing! Second: as an occasional dabbler in electronics, it's sad to see thru-hole components getting rarer because modern surface-mount stuff seems so much harder to work with. This looks like it was a bunch of work, so good job guys.

  • @szabolcscsengoi4231
    @szabolcscsengoi4231 24 дні тому

    I love the mobo! Clean and stylish! ❤️

  • @RetroBerner
    @RetroBerner Місяць тому +4

    Dope, I can't believe y'all overlooked the expansion card case compatibility 😂

    • @GAMECLOSET
      @GAMECLOSET Місяць тому +1

      That was a “D’oh!” moment. I couldn’t believe that.

  • @CallousCoder
    @CallousCoder 23 дні тому

    But with the exception of the missing slots in the case, it’s absolutely stunning 🤩Incredible work by all involved 😊

  • @jamesdecross1035
    @jamesdecross1035 Місяць тому +5

    The clear case lid is a little reminiscent of the 9-pin guy's brother's case for his Apple-1 replica.

    • @TheGeekPub
      @TheGeekPub Місяць тому +2

      You mean me? Thanks for the nice comment!

  • @yopachi
    @yopachi 23 дні тому

    I like that early concept yellow case render 🦋🧈

  • @TheSulross
    @TheSulross Місяць тому +4

    the low profile case is nice looking, but darn, makes most of the slots impractical to use, so yeah, need that taller profile case

  • @techraan2160
    @techraan2160 Місяць тому

    You are livin' the dream!

  • @scatalabad
    @scatalabad Місяць тому +4

    Is that Trev Storey that worked for Acclaim? Newcastle lad. I worked with him there and also at Atomic Planet. Very good artist.

  • @misterretrowolf1464
    @misterretrowolf1464 29 днів тому +1

    Indeed a really great X blaster picture!!

  • @Applecompuser
    @Applecompuser Місяць тому +2

    Looks awesome! I also like the one that is black and red. PS Prayers and much condolences on your loss. 🙏🙏

  • @jeffreyplum5259
    @jeffreyplum5259 27 днів тому +1

    The banking design is similar to the way the PDP-11 took a 64 K byte minicomputer to eventually 4 Megabytes of memory. Of course things must be much simpler starting from a 6502 base, but some amazing stuff was done on the '11, dating back to the 8 bit era. There was even a time-sharing system, without memory protection, which ran a version of basic. Amazing stuff can be done from such a very simple tech base. Good luck friends.

  • @arlo.infinity
    @arlo.infinity Місяць тому +22

    Perifractic is such an 8-but guy!

    • @Robbnlinzi
      @Robbnlinzi Місяць тому +3

      He has to be. We have a 9-bit guy on UA-cam already. And the 10 bit guy took a large 1.25 byte out of me.

  • @thefumigator
    @thefumigator Місяць тому

    Amazing. And while I'm not too fan of retro based computers, the sound and music is outstanding.

  • @TamiSymonds
    @TamiSymonds Місяць тому +5

    @RetroRecipes I've loved this journey. Thank you
    What's your favourite Partridge series..
    *Knowing me knowing you
    *I'm Alan Partridge 1 or 2
    *Mid morning / the day today?
    Nice to see the X16 comes in a box. A bit like Tony Hayres x

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Місяць тому +2

      I'm Alan Partridge 1 & 2 equally. Ahaaa! Do you have a battery for an Ericsson?

  • @MyChannel-vm6dw
    @MyChannel-vm6dw 28 днів тому +11

    I LOVE that you've made preservation of this older but incredibly influential tech a FAMILY affair. Wife and Baby fractic are all in on it. So are the pooches LOL! love love love

  • @therealdebater
    @therealdebater 15 днів тому

    26:40 There is a strut, which I think will be provided with the case, that goes underneath the (beautiful) top cover, to give it a little more strength. Heavy monitors or the like sitting on top might be a bit too heavy, otherwise.

  • @rickmellor
    @rickmellor 29 днів тому +1

    Looks like it's about time to get another. I have the first release of the developer board and the first release of the case along with the upgraded keyboard. I haven't had time to pull them out of the boxes yet, but I still want to collect them all.

  • @giovannip.1433
    @giovannip.1433 24 дні тому

    Looks great. The custom keyboard is an interesting concept - could you manufacture LCD keys for custom key positions?
    You could use specific LCDs to change to show emulation modes.
    Then you could get say a micro PC using a reasonable AMD Apu and emulate a c64, Amiga, Spectrum etc- all at the press of a button.

  • @donaldwiller9238
    @donaldwiller9238 29 днів тому +1

    Great job man. 👍

  • @Badutspringer
    @Badutspringer 26 днів тому

    Good job. Well done, mate. Really appreciate the work you and the team have done. My thoughts to you and the family - losing a parent is very hard to describe - thanks for sharing Very inspiring video (BTW you and Cukoo - synth guy on here somewhere (spellling?) talk very much alike, even though he's a Greek Swedish Greek Swede youtuber/gearhead). God bless.

  • @Wobble2007
    @Wobble2007 27 днів тому +1

    This is an amazing bit of kit, beautiful just to look at, it's perfect for porting all the decompiled 8-Bit games to for reference quality preserved playable versions of all the best legacy games, and maybe even powerful enough to have run ports of all the decompiled 16-Bit games, all with perfect OPL and MIDI music, talking of which It's amazing for too, that is playing and making authentic synth music, I bet someone has already made a tracker player for it too.

    • @cerberus50caldawg
      @cerberus50caldawg 24 дні тому

      100% best use case! LOL
      Makes me dream I was ambitious enough to create a full on keyboard/sequencer style interface rig for this hardware and make it all modular and easily transportable.
      Also I'd either have to find a nice already created synth software solution or create my own homebrew Basic music synth software suite which would allow me to record and save as well as loop synth tracks in live performances using this retro gear!
      I miss those OG C64 saw tooth and wave filter effect bass synth vibes.
      Probably won't get that with this.
      Probably might get much better with this?
      Right???
      This has so much more options and implementations for awesome sounds then what the OG C64 sound chip could do.
      Does sound different.
      Sounds really awesome actually.
      Needs a really well developed Synthesizer suite for it now!

    • @Wobble2007
      @Wobble2007 24 дні тому +1

      @@cerberus50caldawg It does have a lot of potential, I'll be honest though, what I really want is and all-in-one bit of kit dedicated to chiptune/tracker/MIDI/MIDI-2.0, on an FPGA with nuked MT32/SC-55/SC-88/OPN/OPL/SID, and a modern high-end DSP to add in some more modern hardware accelerated synth, along with all the EQ & filters, add in some hyper low latency audio RAM for soundbanks and soundfonts, changeable OP-AMPS, a decent pre-AMP based on a Marantz-8 circuit, some nice DAC's dedicated to both input and output and one for each channel, that can be aggregated through a mixer pre-amp, a bit-crusher built in, as well as a vintage AMP simulator mode (they can be pretty damn good and vintage amps are not cheap now), all that in one module would be a pipe dream, maybe add in a CFexpress slot and playback controls, so you can just use it for pure enjoyment and listen to legit hardware-synth music without firing up your main system, could even give it streaming capabilities so you can have legit synth audio through wireless, obviously the choice of equipment you hook it up to from there would be dealers choice, but a synth module like would allow you to get rid of so much bulk and save you a small fortune, not to mention sound better if done right, it would be perfect for both production and just using for enjoyment of music, video games, whatever uses synth equipment you would have it in this module.

  • @legacycz
    @legacycz 21 день тому

    Pretty Commodore Box

  • @TheJeremyHolloway
    @TheJeremyHolloway Місяць тому +2

    I’d really like to see a breakdown of all the Motorola/MOS/Rockwell/WDC family of support chips someday. Like CIA vs PIA vs RIOT vs VIA, not to mention between the MOS 6551 ACIA - and 2nd source variants - and the Motorola MC6850 ACIA. It was like the support chip Wild Wild West in the 8-Bit and 16-Bit eras throughout the Apple, Atari, and Commodore platforms.

  • @pk3776
    @pk3776 Місяць тому

    Looks so cool 👍💯

  • @robotwo
    @robotwo 18 днів тому

    3:45 No way! You guys got Arne on board? You've got my attention

  • @MaxRomantschuk
    @MaxRomantschuk 25 днів тому +1

    This reminds me, I haven’t watched war games in a long time.

  • @MeitsMSX
    @MeitsMSX Місяць тому +3

    You say this might become the ultimate 8-bit chip tune creating 8 bit computer. You might want to check out the huge list of music extensions made for the MSX standard.
    It's not impossible for the X16 scene to do the same as the MSX scene did. But there's a job to be done then.

    • @another3997
      @another3997 28 днів тому +1

      I'm not a fan of what the X16 turned into after the 8 bit guy first mentioned the idea, it's a victim of too many competing compromises. I also know that the core of the original MSX machines were mainly off the shelf parts, cobbled together with a huge set of compromises, meaning individual manufacturers struggled to sell them in any great numbers. Just like the X16. 😁 If you happen to have a nice, working, 40 year old MSX lying around with enough mod cons to make it usable in 2024, by all means use it. But all these '80s and '90 retro computers are getting rarer by the day, and consequently more expensive. The results you get aren't unique to MSX. The custom sound hardware of Atari 8 bits and the Commodore 64 are far more appealing than any common, off the shelf chips.

    • @MeitsMSX
      @MeitsMSX 28 днів тому +2

      @@another3997 My reply is more about how many soundchips are available. Off the shelve and MSX1 and MSX2 just had a PSG. Later machines already had an YM2413 onboard. The list of audio addons in the shape of cartridges is larger than I can summarize without peeking in some list. The list does cover a great majority of chips used in 80s/90s consoles and homecomputers. VGM files can almost always be played on the original chip on an MSX.
      Because MSX is often forgotten (mostly unintentionally), I thought it was worth mentioning. :)

  • @electronash
    @electronash 8 днів тому

    I don't think the fact that the X16 uses an FPGA in itself was a problem...
    In fact, I got in touch with Mr Murray quite early-on in the project, and suggested that a small FPGA might be the only practical way to get decent specs for video/audio, but also ensure availability of the chips for future batches.
    The main issue some people had, was that David said at the start (in his own video) that he was very much against the idea of using a CPLD or FPGA anywhere in the machine.
    I said the only other way to get video output with fair quality without using an FPGA, was to maybe look at getting hold of an original chip like the Yamaha V9990. That could have offered almost "Mega Drive quality" graphics.
    The problem with the older chips, of course, is getting hold of enough of them, and making sure that none of them are fakes, nor dead-on-arrival.
    Anywho, it's good to see the project finally getting nearing the finish line. I know a ton of work went into it.
    Great to also see Michael Steil worked on the kernel ROM.
    His talk "The ultimate commodore 64 talk" is well worth a watch for any nerdy C64 fan. ;)

  • @Shred_The_Weapon
    @Shred_The_Weapon 23 дні тому

    When you unboxed the mouse, it made me wonder what it would’ve been like if there had been one attached to the different C64 models we owned when I was growing up. We only had the 2 joysticks. They did what they were meant to. Wonder what playing UpNDown, JumpMan, Ghostbusters, Donkey Kong or any of the other games we played would’ve been like with a mouse.
    Even without being able to install that expansion board, will the X16 still be able to connect to a modem?

  • @giovannip.1433
    @giovannip.1433 24 дні тому

    A USB 3+ connector to a PCB with all 'old' connectors could be an alternative too.
    Then you could have Atari, Sega, Sony cartridges, dial up , 9pin dins, scarf, etc.

  • @Jammet
    @Jammet Місяць тому

    I guess my dream version of this would be home computer sized, with networking built-in.

  • @RacerX-
    @RacerX- 27 днів тому

    Nice! I would love to see the modem and wavetable card working. Also how to update the various firmware bits would be cool too. I have a DEV board from the first run last year of a 100 or so. Your board looks a bit different. Is there a list of changes anywhere between the earlier 2023 revs and the late 2023 version? Nice video as all Starfractic.

  • @fancybot7819
    @fancybot7819 Місяць тому +4

    Hey Perifractic! I am not sure, but it seams to me, that the last RAM chip you inserted does not sit well in its socket. ;-) The left hand side needs a bit more push, I suppose. Am I right?

  • @voidstar1337
    @voidstar1337 Місяць тому +5

    24:44 Reset Butt, yep Kevin labeled that on purpose :) 25:15 to be a little more tidy, you can run the PSU power cable under the VERA board. On the other side of that picoPSU is some 5V and 12V pins, to you can "self power" a small flat panel screen, or connect a USB (phone) charger. I'd suggest in a follow up video to showcase BASLOAD, it really deserves a proper introduction to the world (no line numbers + symbolic branching). LowerDecks wasn't in your top 3? Dang :P

  • @madnar9
    @madnar9 Місяць тому +1

    The spaceship graphic reminds me of the old Maplin catalogue art (Chris Foss)

  • @nickcabrera3982
    @nickcabrera3982 Місяць тому

    Awesome project. I haven’t kept up with the development so I don’t really understand all the riser board/adapter/IO plate stuff. Seems like bandaid solution and a confusing number of sku(s) to keep up with. Maybe CX16 v2 will have it all ironed out.

  • @curiousmind4870
    @curiousmind4870 17 днів тому

    Excellent work! Congratulations to the team! Really nice computer. Although I'm an Apple //c owner since 1984 (with my heart more on the side of the 6502), and after seeing the graphic capabilities of this machine, is - not without certain pain - that I'm inclined for the Agon, with the Z80 (in its modern version the eZ80). Ok, they are different, I know. But it's cheap, with no FPGA and so simple, it's mind-blowing. If I could I would have both...

  • @PatrioticGestalt
    @PatrioticGestalt Місяць тому +2

    Thanks!

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Місяць тому

      Hi, I just wanted to write you a quick real message to say that I'm incredibly grateful you have chosen to support us in this way. It really does help the content continue. Cheers! Your friend in retro, Perifractic

  • @j-fharbec379
    @j-fharbec379 27 днів тому

    That ram chip wasn’t pushed all the way in and this really bothered me hahaha. I love what you did with the X16 design

  • @kenh6096
    @kenh6096 28 днів тому

    Real shame they did not go with your cover yet as it's brilliant =D

  • @RavBunneh
    @RavBunneh Місяць тому

    Sweet!!!

  • @FatNorthernBigot
    @FatNorthernBigot Місяць тому

    It's so familiar, yet unfamiliar. 😋

  • @KirksAudioSanctum
    @KirksAudioSanctum Місяць тому

    I would put an LED strip on the back panel inside the case. Maybe one that could change to the colours on the monitor to give whatever you are doing more depth to gameplay....
    My god! I was serious for once! Quick call a doctor...
    Very proud of you mate, nice to see your name on this wonderful piece of technology.
    BTW... Have you taught Babyfractic to play Tetris, yet?

  • @paulluce2557
    @paulluce2557 Місяць тому

    I Really Like this. 8 Bit Guys Dream Machine meets the requirement of authentic 8 bit experience in addition to having better solutions to memory / video /audio / storage...and hardware compatibility with standards that just work.... PS2.. and the Pico PSU ...ETC..and the itx.casing...AND your bundled keyboard solutions.. AND the 104 key mechanical solution that works with BMC64.. / TheC64/ presumably Combian... Just absolutely fantastic

  • @ShawnBrezny
    @ShawnBrezny 23 дні тому +1

    What about some love for the Mega65?

  • @ericwallace4985
    @ericwallace4985 Місяць тому +1

    Comment #2... A flexible ribbon out the cartridge port gap or out the back and into a 3d box for your card that doesn't fit that would a help like a side docking type thing? Its just optional options.

  • @johnwells558
    @johnwells558 Місяць тому +1

    Nice rainbow sticker for the motherboard would be great, and some led lights, just a thought

    • @RetroRecipes
      @RetroRecipes  Місяць тому +1

      It has LEDs at leaast if you look when I power it on :)

  • @RayR
    @RayR 22 дні тому +1

    A great video from you. As far as the graphics chip purist, they don't have to use the advanced capabilities or they can fund/design a retro video expansion board for the X16 three expansions slots and use that instead. Also 256 colors existed on 8bit micros in 1985 and 1986. So when they say it's not historically accurate for the era they are definitely wrong. That being said I wouldn't mind using a Yamaha VDP or National Semiconductor graphics IC for mine when I buy one as an era accurate retro graphics solution.

    • @samp3413
      @samp3413 19 днів тому

      The colour palette isn't the issue, it was getting all 256 on the screen simultaneously on the same scanline like in the arcades.
      Atari 8 bits could get all 256 colours down the screen via DLIs but it was limited to only a handful of colours horizontally, more using some tricks like PMG and PAL blending but nowhere near 256. The c64 could display all 16 colours horizontally in high res without any tricks despite the small palette. Computer manufacturers of the day had to compromise colours for resolution and so forth.. that means saving as many transistors as they could whilst choosing the best features they could think of. You couldn't have both without increasing costs significantly.