The Big Picture : Centre - State Rights
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- Опубліковано 16 гру 2019
- Some of the opposition-ruled states have declared they will not implement the changes in the Citizenship Act. Kerala, Punjab, West Bengal and Chhattisgarh have claimed they will block implementation of the CAA in their states. Madhya Pradesh Chief Minister has also indicated that his government is against the law. Meanwhile, the Maharashtra government will take a decision on the implementation of the Citizenship Amendment Act only after the Supreme Court hears a bunch of petitions challenging the legislation. On the other hand Defence minister Rajnath Singh said the threat by some states not to implement the Citizenship Amendment Act (CAA) is a challenge to India’s federal structure as the legislation has been passed by Parliament and is binding on all states after the presidential assent. On this edition of the Big Picture we will analyse rights of the centre and the states in our Federal Structure.
Anchor: FRANK RAUSAN PEREIRA
Guest: Satya Prakash, Legal Editor, The Tribune
J Sai Deepak, Advocate, Supreme Court
Dr. L. Hanumanthaiah, Member Of Parliament, Congress, Rajya Sabha
Sushil Chandra Tripathi, Former Principal Secretary, Uttar Pradesh
I search in every episode " where is J Sai Deepak"
Me ...also
70% of the comments are just for praising Deepak sir...his explainations are so clear he deserves this respect. 🙏
Some donkey leader of Congress & TMC ko koi explain kro yarrr.
@@arvind_vagadiya donkey nahi h wo bss dirty politics kr rhe h...they are just trying to secure their vote bank.
Because he is not pseudo-libral
more than 70
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Sai is hope for future India...we need this kind of sane voices...
@TOM Thub no
He makes sense and talks with proof
If u can understand English than only watch him
@TOM Thub
Sai spoke as a legal expert with proper proof from constitution for citizen act with all clarity with details. You dont seem to follow him because you are not able to understand.
Let us agree that Sai is biased and speaking for the current central government
You tell us given a chance to implement CAA and NRC, how will you go ahead and implement?
Just saying that , we already have many crores of illegals are already spread and feeding the elections votes of the congress and communist governments. Mind you al these CAB and NRC are mandated by Supreme court and also note that these are pending to be implemented since 1955.
You better listen to all Sais videos in you tube. You will be highly enlightened on these immigration, citizen act and the blunders of the previous central and state governments to not to implement them inspite of supreme court orders
@TOM Thub
Yes. He is biased towards truth and does not mince his words unlike pseudo pretending nationalists like us who want to politically correct. The days of being polite and politically correct are over in India as of now and also world over. As we speak here, the world over is slowly away to Islamists, especially in Western Europe, Canada due to the political correctness of leftist politics and liberal society. Unless indian state takes a solid internal security measures like Israil and US, the days of one or more Indian partions are not too far away. May be in another 10 to 15 years.
So, let us keep debating about who is left or right or center and thereby giving way for one more partition.
Jai Hind🙏🙏
TOM Thub yes yes.. support to nation always..and to govt when it deserves..and on caa we will support this govt wheather hell or high water...study well..
@TOM Thub when you have no point to make, you resort to grammar mistakes they make.
J saie deepak = encyclopedia of indian constitution.
Once search for Faizan Mustafa alsso
J Sai Deepak he is so clear crisp in his vision .. his art of expression is adorable. Gem. Can I as a law student have any chance of working under his guidance
Jai Hind everyone... Let the spirit of INDIA prevail..
Why CAB breaches article 14
ACC to CAA, only non Muslims, from afg , bang and Pakistan who are religiously persecuted are given citizenship
Why it is against article 14....
Firstly the the classification should be intelligible... This classification is not intelligible
1) why only from 3 countries... There is no intelligible reasoning
2) why only MUSLIMS are excluded.... Because sufferings of MUSLIM immigrants is not lesser than that of HINDU immigrants here...
3)WHY only religious persecution? Is religious persecution any different from other persecution?
4) why Rohingyas from BURMA, or UYIGHUR from CHINA are not included....
There is no way to say one persecution is lesser from the other...
NOW DON'T get PRE INDEPENDENCE ,Pak and ban are from INDIA...
Presently, post INDEPENDENCE post Cutof dates of first CITIZENSHIP bill,
These countries are no different from other countries for us
Secondly AHMEDIS and SHIAS get persecuted, why they are not included, their sufferings won't be different from others
Even though PAK and Ban is no different from other countries, and still you cannot justify the inclusion of AFG...
So this BILL highly unintelligibly classified which goes against the article 14
Now coming to the OBJECT of the classification should have rational relationship with the classification...
Now what is the object of act, certain people will get citizenship,...BUT what about MUSLIMS who dont get citizenship, if they could deport and CITIZENSHIP in any other countries, object would have been rational ... But that's not the case
One particular community will suffer in detention centre and others will get citizenship....
So object of act doesn't have rational relationship with the classification.....
Sir J SAI DEEPAK u r true beauty....i request rstv to plz bring him in all constitutional and legel debates in big picture...so that we can be more enlightened.
Satya sir, is our guest faculty at IIMC for media law and ethics. His classes are really gem for us. A lots of interesting things we have learnt from him. Thank you Satya sir
plz don't bring any MP in discussion
@Sushil Kumar Gupta the else were the pig of whom?
@Sushil Kumar Gupta bjp doesn't have such people who are convicted of rape and murder hence they won't become gangster.
You should learn what is indian constitution and come
@Sushil Kumar Gupta you don't know anything that's why you are talking like this. First study what is there in constitution and say about it.
@Sushil Kumar Gupta nailed it bruh
Before opposing,they must watch it but I'm afraid whether they would understand the insight 😅😂😂
J Sai Deepak.... You are a Rockstar. Superbbb analysis and insights .... Mind blowing and wowww
Sai Deepak ... I mean .. Speechless ... Absolutely masterclass !!!
From now ,I will definitely quote him in my mains answer(PSIR+GS2)...He is simply the best ....
@@kanchanalankit2216 yup ... And you are an IAS officer , or SC judge , or upcoming CJI .
@@kanchanalankit2216 and he didn't gave any fact ?? Really ?? ... You really so dumb ??
1) He stated about not following central legislation is violative of constitution and Articles 356 , 357 can be imposed under that ! This is not an opinion , that's a fact under constitution
2) He stated religions minority are persecuted in pak afg bang ... That's a fact as well , not an opinion .
Hindus
In pak 1947 - more than 20% , now about 1%
In bang 1971 - about 20% , now 9 %
3) He stated we are not a federation in true sense . This is true as well , not an opinion. ( B.R. Ambedkar in constitution assembly stated - We are not a federation in a sense as States of India have not entered an agreement to form a federation. They have been created for administration effectiveness. India is largely Unitary)
All above points mentioned are FACTS not opinion ...
Get a book and study instead of giving advices to others !
@@kanchanalankit2216 lol 🤣 you wont decide my future 🤣🤣🤣
@@kanchanalankit2216 and mr dumb ... It is not CAB anymore ... It is CAA now !
If it's constitutional debate please bring J sai Deepak and Satya prakash
Economics related:
Nitin Desai sir and Ajay dua sir
I love frank saying at the end of panelists comment "ok alright"
Same 😂❤️
Dr.L.HANUMANTHAIAH -> *LIVING EXAMPLE WHY POLITICANS HAVE ZERO RESPECT*
Don't invite politicians....
Because that Will dilute the quality of the program.....
Because the person in this episode itself says the center has to get the permission of states to make law on. Citizenship....
May be its the chance to know what's on thier head..
@@advaithg9378 -True
@@advaithg9378 Most of them hollow compartments in that portion.
If their isn't Permanent Executives these so called People's leaders/Political Executives will start biting the dust & there would be no functioning of Govt.
For the first time in my life I watched "the big picture" and I really liked it, going to follow all the episodes now onwards 👏
@@arzunmusic You are an illegal immigrant I suppose. Your days are numbered my friend.
@@arzunmusic he never said he would appear for upsc...😅keep your hatred to yourself...we can understand your low level of intellect...i just feel sorry for you.
Welcome bhai
@@arzunmusic you're absolutely right Bro! But Sadly No one will support you. We all are government Job thirsty shameless creatures. Our selfishness has consumed our conscience. But what to do? UPSC is the only way for social mobility. Even in Airplane, they safe safeguard your self first before helping others. right? Ashamed to say these words..
I m a simple girl.
I see deepak sir and I click on the video.
Same r u upsc aspirant?
I too did the same...
haha same here.. We all are simple people and love J Sai Deepak.
Mr. Sai Deepak is brilliant, vocal and legend legal expert.
@@govindkarwariya2994 no. But I like the TV debates which make sense. :)
As soon as that MP spoke...I thought i was watching AajTak Instead of RS tv
J sai deepak nd satyaprakash sir r giving tough time to few ppl🤣🔥🔥🔥
Sai sir ne to aag laga di.....this shows how he is dedicated for his profession.
Satya Prakash sir is surely underrated.
Sandeep Balakrishna should be on this channel. Will be great having him here.
Stop inviting such stupid politicians.
These nonsense politicians will not think beyond politics.
RSTV, thank you for inviting the right types of good, knowledgeable panelists who can speak precisely and concisely in an informed manner without shouting over each other (like on various private news channels). I actually learn the facts and valid views from your "Big Picture" and "Desh Deshantar" programs. Keep up the good work!
RIP earphones : when the MP started speaking
😂😂😂
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Hahahaha 😂
Great concern 🙄
@@sanjibbera9194 obviously earphones are worth more than his arguments :D
No politicains are clean. They're involved in corruptions in one way or the other whether small or big amount. He need to consider investment on earphone. 😂
Just wow!You nailed it deepak sir!
Boom...🇮🇳💪
A block blaster prime show Sai Deepak sir and sataya prakash sir with Frank Sir
Deepak sir, your arguments are point blank range but it does give a insight that it is personal to you.
one more episode is needed regarding this CAA. How to determine who are religiously persecuted? why religious persecution & not other persecution, is the act actually violating FRs etc etc..
The unbiased insights from this show are excellent. we need more info.
Search for J Sai Deepak & Harish Salve videos on the topic answering your questions as well...
Long story short, this is ONE OF THE FIRST relaxations offered in Citizenship. Hence citizenship AMENDMENT act.
As for the reasons of only these three countries, roughly speaking, India can claim responsibility for Pak and Ban because of Nehru Liyaqat Pact. As for Afg, the term 'transmigration' is used which refers to migration of population between Col. India and NWFP.
Sai Deepak is asking why this much of pbm while including (CAA)which is not there while excluding (NRC). 1-NRC conducted in one state and CAA will be for every state.
2- Why gov conducted NRC and after several pbm in that it's coming with CAA. If you plan
Correct you could have come up with CAA directly.
3) The biggest pbm with this govt is not
Consulting with all stakeholders before legislation and after that it will blink without knowing what to do for implementation.
This is happening from demonetisation to CAA. With your knowledge you can defend easily today but need a responsible answer from you as we are following you. 🙏
TheRugesh Now u are jumping to a conclusion and you want him to respond the way you want !! Sorry to say you are BIASED.
I am not against or with govt.
But i will just say this “phonepay n things of ease of payment has arrived due to demonetisation”
@@vickkydude I just answered to his question bro continue with your understanding. All the very best bro.
There are two things you got to understand - 1. NRC is being done on the order of SC. There is this confusion everywhere. This process started in 2013.
2. First we identify the problem then remedy. SC directed to prepare NRC for Assam. As far as problems are concerned wrt to NRC, it is only because of the fact that we are liberal civilization. Had this been the case in China, they would have thrown everyone out of the country in one go. We are giving every chance to prove citizenship hence the delay and problems.
And I am not a supporter of this government. But facts can not be changed at all. There is economic instability in the country Job losses and whatnot. Discuss these matters.
Fairly and transparently consolidate the contents of CAA as well as Relationship between Union and States.
Great job sir 🙏
"Sai Deepak is synonymous to Knowledge, Courage and Articulation"
Garv it bas pagle rulayega kya
@@guhan4606 of country first!
@@guhan4606 Nope. First country, then anything else!!
kudos to Satya Prakash and J Sai Deepak. Repository of legal and constitutional machinery.
J sai Deepak simply brilliant.
Wow, Sai Deepak.... Music to my ears... what an orator !
Satya Prakash Sir Thanks Aa.....👍👍
♨️😅.....Thanks RS TV.....Jay Maharashtra.....😅♨️
Also J Sai Deepak , Frank Thanks.....👌👌
j Sai Deepak ji...pure knowledge❣️
Satya prakash and jai sai Deepak two gems of India
🙏🙏🙏
I'm agree ...jai saideepak constitutional understanding is non comparable and satya prakash sir also give point to point arguments which is adorable.
Good debate.
Some points to be mentioned-
Though parliament is sovereign in making laws on centers subject, Majority in the parliament doesnt mean 'Majoritarian Polity'.Govt is elected by mere 25-30 crores of indians,not by 130 crores of indians.Its moral responsibilty of the govt to take everyone in confidence.
Shaheed Bhagat singh has said that the sanctity of the law can be maintained only if it the popular will of the people.
Every Law may be legal but not legitimitate !
That is why it's a democracy and running it for 70+ years. And if considering you're suggestions than there will always be conflict in a country which is soo diverse in nature and you know how politics run in this country where opposition is always opposing rather then playing a role in nation building.
Deepak sir you fentastically delivered all points . how much clear you are about each and every points , I never saw any law personalitys speaking like this and delivering articles in the constitution such way.
J Sai Deepak nails it everytime!!!
Sai Deepak just awesome.
Hats off for Sai Deepak sir for his straight forward answers 👌
I want to see J. Sai Deepak and owaisi debate on same....
Jahiliyat advocate don't have a chance dude. I hope he don't cry and run. 😆😆
@@speedabort2354 owaisi can only do tamasha and politics. He is nt very versed with law and order.
owaisi isn't worthy enough to debate with J.S. Deepak sir
@@garvitsharma3149 very true
He is politician bro
It's a kind of joy to watch this kind of intellectual discourse.. thank u rstv
In the opening statements you can clearly see that the spelling of 'Federal' is wrong in the background. Government channel and such mistakes aren't forgivable. Please correct it.
Yu are awesome, j sai sir, it's always a pleasure to to hear yu explaining various provisions of constitution.
Thank you Frank sir and sai sir
“Be there as it may” - J Sai Deepak
j sai deepak sir great reply and well explained the whole matter, thank you
Sai Deepak sir hat's of to you
My favorite j s deepk..
He has deep knowledge
Hanumantayya's arguments are not constitutionally right.
J Sai Deepak has nailed the Discussion as always..Such a Grit and conviction he has...Immense Respect for him...
Saw full episode just to hear J. Deepak Sai🙏
A debate having J Sai Deepak and Satya Prakash is a must watch video....
j sai deepak ji is gem of india
Sai deepak unofficial spokesperson of BJP
Thanks RSTV ND Frank Sir nd Salute to Deepak Sir nd respect for Satya Prakash Sir
Very intelligent Depak. India needs talent like you. Raise your voice, we are with you.
Thanks...RSTV plays tremendous job!!
Satya prakash sir explanation is like a child can understand what is the point. Thank you sir
Thank you sai 🙏💐
It's treat to the ears to listen s. Deepak
Great discussion with clear perspectives.
jai sai sir you have fully precise knowledge of constitution 🙏🙏
J sai deepak sir you always amaze with strong facts. You are definitely right here.
Worth watching episodes 👏
J sai Deepak sir u really command respect through ur knowledge not demand it...a great admirar of urs..
Even Satya prakash sir was very relevant...
the hypocrisy between both the parties when either of them are ruling the centre and states, is my take away from this discussion.
There is some problem with the Mike from last few weeks. Because which there is some problem with the audio quality.
So pls try to remove the noice and unwanted sound.
Awesome point by Sai Deepak at 22:00.
🙏sai ...
Sai Deepak sir legal views are always clear as water, but in this episode he lack the practical aspect of the matter. "He even said why should somebody has a problem for inclusion of other beneficiaries on the ground that some section has been excluded?" Well, that's because it is "DISCRIMINATION", the type of discrimination that is not allowed under the Constitution of India, at least in this case. Nowhere in the Constitution does it mentioned that citizenship can be granted based on religion (Art 5 -11).
Also, the panelist had not considered the concerned of the NE states, especially Assam and Tripura. Their problem is not because of the exclusion of certain section, instead they just don't want any immigrants, irrespective of religion, in their already crowded and resource scares land where there are only limited opportunities available. The indigenous population and their identity are also being threatened in the process. Take the case of Tripura, the indigenous people there is already a minority in their own land. Fact: most immigrants that will be covered under this law will be from Bangladesh, therefore the fear that the NE people have are legitimate.
If we really do have sympathy and concerned for people facing religious prosecution from our neighboring countries, why only these three countries? What about Rohingyas from Myanmar? Are they not our neighbor? Are they not facing the worse religious prosecution!!
While it is not a bad law per se, the intention and motives, the political angle, the discrimination and lack of consultation and consensus is the problem.
Our Federalism may be unitary based, but don't forget the spirit of "co-operative federalism".
In one voice WE WANT SAI Sir in every panel!
Respect to you J Sai Deepak. Very balanced view and showing the other aspect too. Media only shows hue and cry not the positive side. And absolutely NHRC should chip in for these refugees. Why don't they see Delhi refugees camp and surrounding area they are living in abysmal condition.
Mr.Sai Deepak you are the diamond
Completely elated with sai's insightful narration. Yet another clear and pin pointed presentation. I think, BJP govt.should find bureaucrats who could present bill with clear information on first hand, like how Sai did to avoid such political discourse in future.
Jai sai Deepak sir is simply outstanding 🙏🙏
Deepak sir ..extraordinary... points...
Thanks
My all time fav j sai Deepak
ND Frank sir also focused in Deepak sir
Dear RSTV, I have a complaint regarding the voice editing. Every time anyone speaks, the sound of mic(not the voice of person) is heard and then it stops. This is a bit disturbing and reduces the attention. Request RSTV to kindly look into it. Thanks
J SAI DEEPAK IS ROCKSTAR ALREADY I HOPE HE GETS INTO REAL POLITICS NOT DOING FENCE SITTING . WE NEED MORE SUCH MAN
All of us talking around the CAA but NRC is major concern which was not address in this discussion..which is part of the protest..better if this discussion was carried out in holistic manner
OnlyJ Sai Deepak sir explaination is the best.
@Rajya Sabha TV, Please provide subtitles. It is very hard to actually listen to Mr. Seceratry, which leads to disturbance in the flow of the debate.
J sai deepak you are impeccable
J Sai is brilliant guy.....
N had enough thing to talk about
All I understand is, CAA and NRIC are like giving solution first and then creating a problem. Why create fear, panic in the country. As if everything else is fine, these were the only last issue needed. We were better before all these started.
Why did India need independence. Things were working fine anyway. Why so many people sacrificed their lives just to get sovereignty. Why agitate why do anything? Because injustice cannot be accepted just because of possible resistance.
Clear explanation 👍
Sai Deepak who are you man?? No chance..I will make my child a great lawyer...Extraordinary speech...
J sai and satya prakash: deadly combo.
I'm a fan of sai deepak sir now. best regards sir.
Lets see what CAA says:
"Provided that any person belonging to Hindu, Sikh, Buddhist, Jain, Parsi or
Christian community from Afghanistan, Bangladesh or Pakistan, who entered into
India on or before the 31st day of December, 2014 ...... shall not be treated as
illegal migrant for the purposes of this Act (Citizenship Act 1955)"
By Implication communities other than above 6, that is, Muslims, Jews etc (who entered into India on or before the 31st day of December, 2014) will become Illegal Migrant
Now, to be a citizen of India by Registration or Naturalisation (according to Citizenship Act 1955) one has to be a Legal Migrant
Therefore, Muslims, Jews etc will not be eligible for Indian citizenship & will become liable to the proceedings of Illegal Migrants
Now, if NRC comes in future, communities other than above 6, that is, Muslims, Jews etc (who entered into India on or before the 31st day of December, 2014) will be excluded from NRC because they now become Illegal Migrants by the virtue of CAA 2019
Lets see what Article 14 says:
"The State shall not deny to any person equality before the law or the equal protection of the laws within the territory of India"
Now, because Article 14 talks about ANY PERSON (not only citizens), it becomes patently clear that the Indian State is blatantly discriminating against communities other than above 6, that is, Muslims, Jews etc (who entered into India on or before the 31st day of December, 2014)
It is right that CAA is not for existing citizens of India but there are many who will not be able to prove their citizenship (though the are living in India from decades) as we can see from the Assam experience, in which 19 lakhs out of 3.29 crore were excluded from NRC.
The main point here is that, it is not about giving citizenship (which is indeed a sovereign right of a nation) to those who deserves, it is about the process through which it's being done. Citizenship to deserving can be granted through other means, it doesn't necessarily requires to violate the BASIC STRUCTURE of the CONSTITUTION
And what we are going to get from all this, if at all it will implemented?
Large number of excluded population, who ultimately going to live in detention centres leaving their home in which the are living since decades. Which in turn, could lead to a more divided India, which could lead to more instability in the country
Huge burden on the countries exchequer is another elephant in the room, given the precarious economic situation of the country
Stability is the sine qua none for a country to become "World Leader". As India is aspiring to become one, it must avoid all things that will leads to instability in the country
Instead of waisting its time & resources on things which could be done in a different way, India must focus more on ways to utilise its demographic dividend if it wants to prosper & to reach $5 trillion economy by 2024-25.
PS: One must refrain oneself from hero worship & question everything
I second ur argument.
People certainly need to read your comment.. Many people blindly following Sai deepak statements 😂 They need to enlighten themselves.. Well written 👍
Ur ans is at 21:00.
And as layman we dont want any more pottential terrorists in our country.
U havd slready seen wt happend in sweden after tsking refugees no go zones cdme into.picture. sharia law goons started petroling the streets in these.
First , the inclusion of the above mentioned 6 communities are a continuation of 1950 Nehru- Liaquat Pact .
Second , though Article 14 has just two lines in it's defination , it has many different applicable meanings like reservation for depressed classes is not violation of Article 14.
Third , I AGREE THAT although
NRC or CAA may be good or bad , The point is We Don't Need Them . We are at a stage of development where we should be focused on development alone .
Two Points
1. The NRC in Assam was faulty and most of the ministers have said that there would be more checks and balances and more documents considerations in the NRC that would be done now unlike Assam which was done under SC guidance and was delayed many times.
2. Illegal migrants should be weeded away because they are taking away the jobs of especially the labour class (many of them are harming job prospects of poor Indian Muslims) and are a security threat as well. Illegal migrants for eg took away many labour class jobs in states like Gujarat by offering to work at a lower wage and I have seen that and verified it myself a long time back. Plus vulnerable Muslim migrants like Rohingyas have been recruited in terrorist sleeper cells according to various NIA reports.
So NRC and CAA are must needed.
What can be done here ? If we say everyone who entered India has to be sent back then :
Data shows in Bangladesh and Pak Non- Muslims are converted, killed or tortured. Just see the dwindling percentages of non Muslims in both of these countries. Afghanistan is under Taliban.
So we cant send them to die in these countries.
Where as Muslims who are illegal migrants can be sent back and being Islamic nations they wont be persecuted there.
So I think Both CAA and NRC are apt for handling the issue. But having said that NRC should be fool proof and no Indian Muslim should suffer because of it.
I was in a dilemma regarding this NRC, watching the quint and NDTV and the wire has been frustrating because they site all self- imaginary consequences and mislead their audience. but with this everything is crystal clear
More power to people like you who have the ability to separate truth from propaganda.
Dont worry they will be sued soon....
Deepak bahi.. U said-
1. NRC fall primarily under the Foreigners act and under the citizenship act also.
2. Then u said NRC falls under the Citizenship rules.
I may have understood it wrong. Sorry for that in advance. But which one is right.
deepak sir .
.explanation is really good ...
Structure remains federal but the spirit remains unitary 👌👌👌👌
Sai Deepak sir👍👍👍