What Happens if a Cemetery Goes Under?
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Cemeteries are just like any other business; they need to make money in order to stay open. However, unlike other businesses, cemeteries, particularly ones in heavily populated areas, can only operate for so long before they run out of their main product- usable space to put bodies in. The people who buy a burial plot generally purchase the land once and then never move out. So how do cemeteries keep from themselves going under and what happens when they run out of money?
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Now that you know what happens when a cemetery goes under check out this video and find out the answer to the question- How Did They Settle on Six Feet Deep for Graves?:
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"Evicted from their graves"? Damn.
imagine being a vampire in such situation.
Isn't that the plot to "Love at First Bite?" The Romanian government took over his castle and was going to turn it into a practice site for their Olympic gymnastic team? They were kicking him out so he just moved to America.
um exuse me mr vlad
what is it
your 150 year lease is up
shite
Firespawn Gamingyellow Is that a direct quote? It sounds like it might have been, but it's been years. :)
Firespawn Gamingyellow lol
One of our local cemeteries was in deep financial trouble but they tried to cover it up until someone started digging. It was a very grave problem...you could even say monumental.
Sounds like they had a few skeletons in the closet...
+Divine Falcon -_-
the plot thickens...
Groan (only because I didn't think of it). You're urned...er...earned the rite...right...to have all the puns turfed your way.
Probably asked the media to bury the story. Or gave them bad information to lead them to a dead end.
Once the lease is up they dig up the coffins and cremate them... why bother to bury them in the first place than?
ZarPof money. If the family doesn't pay out the ass for a temporary burial they didn't love the one who died. Emotional blackmail, it makes the economy run (see engagement rings)
Chandler Nickles
At least on this subject you and I are on the same page. However, horded money doesn't grow the economy, so in a small way I guess it could be good.
ZarPof there are many ways to grow the economy better, like pizza or tacos! 😁
Chandler Nickles
I agree. Perhaps providing services for the living is a better way to trade around money but where there's a desire there's someone to fill it and make a buck off of it.
ZarPof I would say to satisfy the desires or the surviving family, by the time the grave has to be re-dug, I'll bet much of the remaining family has died as well and the remaining ones won't give a shit.
Oh the house, it was just build on an old abandoned graveyard, no big issue. Would you like to buy some ghost insurance along with the house.
Ghost Insurance sounds like it would be as financially sustainable as Alien Abduction Insurance (Which yes, that really exists).
This is so sad. Even in death it's all about money
Not if you use your back yard right?
I don't know if anybody said this already, but those cemeteries with the white crosses are US military cemeteries run by the government and if the federal government went under then... well... overgrown cemeteries would be the least of our problems
Anyone "repurposes" the land my grave is on..... I shall haunt anyone who moves in. If it's a family, I'll protect the children. But mommy and daddy are both going to be bouncing off the walls in sheer terror by the time I'm done with them! If I can't rest in peace, *they're* not going to rest at all.
NGMonocrom
So you're going to be a hypocritical ghost?
i will join you my mate.
Mad_Scientist
Thank you, good Sir!
If anyone builds a House over my grave, I will haunt the Occupants by baking Chocolate Chip and Oatmeal cookies on the down low and leaving the cookies artfully arranged in a big plate on the Kitchen table.
They'll wake up in the morning and be like, WTF
@A Heimdahl
That's awesome, would make life more fun.
You couldn't pay me to live in a house built over a cemetery. Not only does it seem super disrespectful, it's kind of creepy too.
Who is it disrespectful to? The dead don't care...
That's an assumption. It's just disrespectful.to the dead and their family/loved ones.
Nah, it's as close to a fact as people will ever get.
However disrespect to the family and loved ones of the dead are absolutely a legitimate concern you're perfectly right to appreciate.
Molon Labe there was a cemetery in my town they built a ring road over it. The only sign of it is a few gravestones on the last original wall down the side of a multi-storey car park
I don't have any doubt that here is a population that would pay hefty sums of money for the privilege unlike you.
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A good example of all this is in Savannah, GA. There was a family cemetery on the land that the current Savannah - Hilton Head international airport is located. All of the families agreed to move their loved ones, except for one family. Two graves were left on the property. The two graves are now part of runway 10/28. The family still visits occasionally, and planes land and take off right over them.
Why don't we just bury them upright so there's more space?
-T-X-M-
do you think the dead need to be in a resting position for them to be dead?
-T-X-M- Please, they're dead, it's better than building a hotel over them or digging them up and reburying them plus it helps with overcrowding
-T-X-M- Cremation, and yeah why not? You're getting pretty ass hurt over this.
Michael Dante there's one problem it's to cramp and you can't go to your dead ones
In some countries it actually is customary to bury people in an upright crouching position! It just depends on culture and personal preference, really. I don't think an upright position is any more respectful or disrespectful than a horizontal one.
Came here thinking "going under" meant "inundated by floodwaters", even though I knew it means "going bankrupt".
Double Dare Fan it could also mean going to Australia
dhruv bedi that's called going down under
drew gutzwiller puns dont need to make too much sense ,nor are they bound by the constraints of grammar
dhruv bedi sorry just a bad pun and it didn't make sense to me
I thought it meant "sinking under the ground and go through a geological change", and would produce human fossils.
Reusing the land isn't what pisses me off. It's that it's always about money.
If you work at something, would you not like to get paid for it and, more important get a reize next year. Ha, ha.
Ivar Lavins I don't care, they desecrate the resting places of people over money.
If you look at a map of almost any city, you will find a large green area. It will not be a park, or a farm, that could grow fresh vegetables for its citizens. No! It will be a cemetery, where are buried the remains of people that died long ago. Usually it is completely empty of live people, therefore useless.
Ivar Lavins Here's a thought, build the farms where they build unnecessary subdivisions instead. But what about housing you'll most likely ask. There are plenty of abandon houses in disrepair that could be fixed up and put back on the market. Not to mention there are many farms demolished in favor of building more houses that we don't need.
...but cemeteries _are_ parks, and living people walk around in them all the time.
This channel is full of those questions that make you say "Huh... I never thought about that."
Building housing developments on graveyards is how Poltergeist happens.
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Who the hell would build a house on top of a cemetery?
I was wondering who the hell would try to relocate a cemetery. Like seriously, dig up a bunch of old decayed bodies and lay their soles to rest somewhere a few towns over? Uhhh just build a building over me please.
*slowly raises hand* *also points to many american cities built upon ancient native american burial grounds.*
LegendaryStory ancient* there all decayed now
They're*
Seriously, knowing that my Home was built on top of a Cemetery (with unmoved bodies) would freak me the hell out.
inagine buying a place over an old cemetary with bodys in place digging 6 feet down for plumbing or a pool and suprise human remains. most of the cemetaries near me seem to be council owned. also most plots seem to be on a 100year lease. usually this is enough time for any living reletive to be gone and forgotten.
Poltergeist.
I had guessed this probably has happened to someone, so I Google: First story I could find www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1200347/It-happened-I-32-skeletons-beneath-house.html
Like I get the space issue, if everyone who dies deserves a permanent plot of land eventually we we will run out of space to expand just to house dead people.
But as a living person who is going to die I do find the idea of what I traditionally associate as "me" being unearthed, and dumped somewhere like trash.
well, in the words of emperor Rigel.. its barbaric to bury the dead on the same planet you live on. instead turn entire solar systems into giant graveyards.. as soon as we can. until then we can just launch containers with corpses into orbit.. they will probably be kept fairly well preserved. :)
If I need my name carved in stone for family and friends not to forget me, I would be worth forgetting. Graveyards made more sense when it was about making sure people were rotting somewhere they wouldn't contaminate shit... We should just have ceremonies where the ashes of dead people are spread in the wind from a mountain or some magical shit. Denmark can use windmills.
I feel like most people feel this way now a days. The funeral business is in serious trouble if those nice, semi-creepy, keeper houses aren't turned into a part time BnB as well.
A new meaning to "gone with the wind"
It's all fun and games till you get a mouthful of Uncle Bill
I mean for some people the idea of cremation just isn't good. My grandaunt was horrified by the fact my great-grandfather wanted to be cremated after he died, she would just cry saying they were gonna burn him. Some people just can't cope that way.
For GOD'S SAKE, leave these poor corpses alone to rest in peace forever more!!
Foebane72 Nevermore.
lol quote the raven poe is scarier then living on a grave yard
Ri dan Said the raven... "Eat my shorts"
Lisa: Bart!!
A great line from The Simpsons... Treehouse of Horrors.
lol scaryist version yet
If you want them to be left alone, then you can fund the groundskeeping and property management costs for all time.
You could do a whole video on how the old cemeteries in New Orleans work. It's fascinating.
Just a few blocks from my home is a city park the was (and in fact still is) a graveyard.
About 100 years ago, the church organizations that owned the graveyard ran out of money and sold the land to the city. The city attempted to relocate the bodies to another cemetary, but after numerous troubles, including Americans threatening to stop shipping to the city over a perceived threat of the moving of corpses starting a plague, the city council decided to say those two little words that rhyme with "bucket", had the gravestones knocked over and built the park on top of it.
The official name of the park is "McBurney Park", but nobody calls it that.
Nobody.
If you ask anyone where McBurney Park is, they will just look at you with confusion.
The real name is "Skeleton Park", and everyone knows where that is.
How many ghost stories and myths and rumors are there about it
One side of my Family is from Bermuda and some of these burial practices are pretty familiar to me. As an example, I married my beloved Wife in the Anglican Church Her Ancestor built in 1620 and outside was the Cemetery containing the graves of Her follow-on Ancestors up till this day. In Bermuda due to lack of room among other things, the Cemeteries have employed what We call the "Condo Method" where bodies are buried for a set period of time (and I can't remember how many years that is) after which the grave can be reopened and re-used usually either by moving the bones to a Columbarium or if the grave is going to stay in the Family it is usually prepared for the new occupant by laying layers of palm fronds over the present inhabitant's remains in order to place the new Coffin on top (my Father/Mother-in-Law are buried in this manner).....this way a Family can continue reusing the same grave for generations. When we married, it was in my Wife's Family Church and as She pointed out, practically the entire Family going back Centuries was present either as living, breathing Guests/Participants or in the Church Graveyard going back to the early 1620s!!
If you visit Europe, and want to see something really cool, go to the ossuary in Sedlec, in the Czech Republic. It's a quick train ride out of Prague. There's a chapel there filled with the bones of thousands of people dating back to the middle ages. The cemetery next to the chapel kept getting filled, so throughout the centuries the bones would be dug up and stored in the chapel. Now the chapel is a big tourist attraction. Until I saw this video, I did not know that it was common practice in Europe to dig up the bones when cemeteries got filled.
Yes, it's completely normal here in Europe. Almost every cemetery has a catacomb where bones are permanently stored. It is usually just a hole in the ground, but some cities (for example Paris) have very large and elaborate catacombs consisting of tunnels covered in bones. The graves are just temporary and bodies are stored there typically until living relatives that personally knew the diseased care about them (aka. willing to pay the rent for the grave). Also, as mentioned in the video, it is common to bury relatives on top of each other, resulting in multi-generational graves (typically 2 or 3 generations per grave). Rule of a thumb is, that body should be in a grave for at least 70 years.
Actually it was very surprising to me that in USA graves are permanent. In Europe only wealthy or famous people tend to have permanent graves, ranging from private tumbs (medeval nobelty) up to mohylas (artificial mountains or pyramids).
It might have to do with land availability. The U.S. still has a lot of open, unoccupied spaces left, and I imagine that those grave laws were likely put in place when most of the country was wilderness and it seemed like there would always be more land for settlers to fill. Sadly, respect for permanent grave sites is often not extended to the burial grounds of Native Americans.
KohuGaly Here in the US it would be unthinkable to dig up a grave. It has happened for new development in the past, but it was very rare and I don't think it's done anymore. Like stonescorpio's comment above, this is probably because the US is full of lots of open spaces. Old cemeteries today are viewed as historic sites. In Europe it makes sense to dig up graves, because if they didn't do that, there wouldn't be any room left. Here in the US you can buy perpetual care (as described in this video), where you pay a flat fee, and in theory the grave site will be tended to forever.
hamsterama There's a chapel like that in southern Portugal too, in the town of Évora. These things are surprisingly common in Europe.
I think we can create jobs by getting rid of cemeteries all together and creating massive catacombs around America. A good use of space and building materials!
repurposing graveyards? You want Poltergeists? 'Cause thats how you get Poltergeists.
(Dude... There's no such thing)
How many people were thinking of the movie "Poltergeist" all thru' this vid? O_o
even in death, you are not left alone
I don't see the point in keeping graves more than 75 years, because almost no one who really knew you would still be alive by then (besides for vip's of course) so I like Germany's approach.
Kaleb Bruwer +
Yeah except the muslims will completely replace you in your country RIP white race
Fuck off with your baiting mate.
there's cemeteries from the 1800's that are completely abandoned here. you can still read the tombstones tho
+Emperor Krell perhaps wait till you cant read the tombstones before using the land
Years ago someone gave me pieces of grave stones. Apparently her Father was on a crew that was tasked with flooding a cemetery that was over 100 years old. Anyone with living relatives had the remains moved. Some of those poor folk no longer had living relatives and so her Dad took pieces from those stones. As long as I'm living I'll care for those pieces of head stones. Yeah I know I'm weird that way.
At least somebody is looking after them.
Thank you for presenting this. A lot of people do not realize how often cemeteries fall into abandonment.
1:28 Wooow! That is a reeeeaaaly bad picture choice! Do you even now what that is?
Letum its austwitch right?
Letum history buff
good meme
5:20
I find it interesting and amusing that dead bodies under houses lower their value to the buying public. It's not logical.
People are not logical.
I sincerely hope that when I die, whoever still cares about me doesn't bother with all this. Just dump me in the trash, when I'm dead I won't care. Do whatever minimal thing is required by law and then just chuck me out, throw my ashes in the bin, whatever, don't waste money on fancy coffins and graveyard plots.
Same here. Hopefully at most my relatives just cremate me and keep the ashes in a somewhat fancy pot. All this grave business seems so pointless. Even worse is the embalming process, which is expensive and imo VERY stupid and pointless. The money spent on this junk is better donated to a cause that the dead relative believed in.
DestroyerMariko turn me into mulch when I die
CREMATION!! Stop full body burials!! Spread ashes as requested or keep or use for free fertilizer material.
Cremation takes a lot of fuel and releases harmful gasses into the air. Burying is good, but not in caskets and vaults. Just dig a hole and toss me in and let decompose leaving room for another later.
scarletfluerr Unfortunately they can't just do it open air wood pyre style cremation=Viking/Hindu. Might smell like a tasty barbeque. Slather me in sauce & use hickory wood. =D
I want to be composted and returned to dirt !
Agreed. Just chuck me into a wood chipper and call it a day.
you know you can be turned into a bullet these days and you can be shoot at a target !! way cooler . or donate your body to a college .. and get a bit of cash up front .. and people for years will have to look at your junk so they can pass their med classes !! . I'm so doing that !! :P
In the USA, donation to "science" or a local medical school or university is exactly that, a donation. Donors do not receive ANY money for the donation. I am a medical courier. I transport donors, in full or parts, 6 days a week. You may enjoy reading Mary Roach's book, "Stiff". If you have questions about tissue donation please ask me.
Yes, you are correct being turned into a bullet is really, really cool.
I want to be thrown into a deep oceanic trench and become nourishment for life living at the deepest depths of the ocean
Ben Barker Hey Ben, I do have ?s for you. When someone donates muscle, tissue, and bones, what is used to fill out the corpse ' s body? I heard that PVC piping is sometimes used. True?? Also, why aren't enemas given to dead people to slow down the rotting process? Wouldn't that simple act help keep a corpse "fresh" so that embalming wouldn't be necessary? I appreciate any information. Thanks!
I don't get why Australia needs to reuse/squeeze in burial plots, there's like a billion acres of useless land over here the cemeteries could buy and bury people in...
Hellllloooooo
I'm from Australia, so g'day
Most of it is barren, and unliveable. Hardly anyone lives there. The places where we can live is limited
Yes but the places we can bury people are almost unlimited.
People want to be buried near populated places
Building new homes on top of a cemetery? Isn't that the plot of poltergeist? This is why I am getting cremated when I die.
this is my first time coming to this channel and I gotta say Matthew Santoro has a challenger for the Bald Games
Sozo-Teki smh, Matthew ain't even in the same league as this guy.
I meant the baldness.
No, freeze me. I want to take a chance with future science to bring me back
...To life!
if i'll win a lottery, i think we'll meet in future.
Mad_Scientist or use your life insurance to pay for it
Starteller huh didn't think about that
Starteller Life insurance would argue that they are waiting untill there is no chance of you coming back to life... cryogenic suspended animation could make that one interesting.
I don't think i'll care once i'm dead
Ya, depending on your religion, you will have better things to do, or nothing to do. Either way!
Just burn me and throw my ashes into my killer face. If I died of natural causes then just sever my head then pour the ashes on top of it, then have it impaled on a pike in the yard of my descendants to scare off evil spirits.
It doesn't depend on it. One is true or none are. Your belief doesn't magically change what happens when you die. The fact is you receive eternal life or eternal death. Heaven or hell. God's judgment or God's mercy. Belief is irrelevant, this is what happens.
Ivor: You may enjoy the documentary, " Children of the Pyre". It shows the busiest crematory in India. The movie is shown through the eyes of the children who work there.
4:14 Anyone else get the Poltergeist (1982 film) vibe?
First thing I thought of.
Yes
that was my exact thought!
That's the first thing I thought of. I dont care how crazy it sounds, there's NO way I'd live in a house knowing it was build over an old cemetery . Talk about asking for trouble.
One haunted house coming right up.
YOU ONLY MOVED THE HEADSTONES!
Someone once argued that sacred Native American lands should be left alone, by arguing that no one would ever allow anything to be built over cemeteries. I was able to dismantle that argument pretty thoroughly by showing situations where people have, in fact, moved bodies, repurposed land, and exchanged cash because a cemetery went bankrupt. They were pretty shocked at how little sanctity or sacredness there really is in our culture, but it did make the point that there was no good analogy because nothing is too sacred to us that it can't be traded for money, and that we genuinely have no idea how Native Americans feel about it.
That is really sad : (
Imaginary. Well, it also depends on the type of archaeology. Most of the time in the western world, archaeology actually preserves graves and the items from the graves, since otherwise it is very likely actual grave robbers would rob the graves, fully desecrate them and even toss out the bodies, and sell or melt down all the goods in the graves.
Though a couple of decades ago, Archeology in the west was still basically grave robbing, as evidenced by all the for profit museums which has goods from grave sites in them.
"and that we genuinely have no idea how Native Americans feel about it." -- why don't we just ask?
The rest of your argument is pretty sound, but I got to that part and that was my first reaction.
Very interesting!
This channel is so underrated! One of my favorite channels on UA-cam!
I've always felt that cemeteries are a waste of land and money. I'm likely in the minority on that though.
Nah, either cremate me or use one of those tree burial thingies so I can create a life out of my remains. I’m dead anyway so what do I care.
"You moved the tombstones but you didn't move the bodies!" - Craig T. Nelson to James Karen in POLTERGEIST (1982).
They're Here!
churchs also upkeep cementaries with the donation money
No they don't they use privet companies paid for by the families of the dead.. they mo the lawn if thats whats your talking about but if you want your family members grave keep't clean you have to pay someone
Keith Costin me meant they use donation money to pay someone. A little common sense goes a long way...
Keith Costin that isn't true. A church I was a member of has a full blown committee that runs the upkeep of the cemetery.
Depends on where you are. In my area (Maine, USA), it's a mix of church-owned, private (family) owned, and town-owned cemeteries. The churches upkeep theirs as part of their property, selling plots to supplement the donations. Some families have their own burial plots on their own land - it's uncommon, mostly only for properties that have been in the same family for a century or more. The rest are owned by the local town, and upkept in the town's budget.
I never knew that
This makes me recall the story of Black Hope Cemetery. A subdivision was constructed on top of the graves, then the living occupants of the newly constructed homes started having some...well...rather _peculiar_ happenings in their homes. If you've never heard about the incident, a movie was actually made about it...creepy. Anyway, now with the advent of the Internet, I am sure that old movie is out there somewhere. It was based on a true story, and to this day, I have _never_ forgotten the horror those poor families endured. Maybe this channel can tell the story for Halloween or something, but it did happen. I don't know everything about it after all these years, but I do remember that in the end, everyone who bought a home there ended up leaving the new subdivision. Crazy stuff!
The whole idea behind graveyards is that God is supposed to raise the dead from their remains. If you were cremated you lost your shot at heaven. So every believer made sure they had a plot that would last until the end of days, so that they could be called up to heaven if they weren't there already.
Anyone know how this was all supposed to work out?
Seems pretty dumb to me, as a Christian. I mean, your body will rot anyway, regardless of what you do with it... (Unless you freeze it or something, I guess). I think everyone was just a bit more stupid in the past.
Great name, great comment.
No idea why they thought we would need our earthly bodies. I'm all for cremation.
As I understand it, the spirit is what is to be resurrected. Those whose names are written in the Book of Life (ie those who are followers of Christ), will be given new immortal bodies similar to the one Jesus has after His resurrection.
Its not necessarily Christianity. The preservation of the mortal body or fuck over your after life is common in many faiths. I need only remind you the Egyptians mummified people into jerky so their bodies would last a LONG time,
Mummi jerky love you long time
LOL
As a funeral director in rural New York I can tell you that the majority of the cemeteries in our area are maintained by cemetery associations which are volunteers like a club that maintain the cemetery charging for plots, grave openings and monument permits. When there is no longer money in the cemetery associations perpetual care fund or in other accounts the cemetery association often will cede rights to the local municipality. There are a few cemeteries in my area which are maintained by families who have loved ones buried there and thus have no charges other than hiring a grave digger. Another way cemeteries make money is by having crematories and selling monuments.
People should watch Poltergeist before buying land once used as a graveyard.
And rent A exterminator first :)
I saw the title and first thing I thought: How far under? 6 feet? Lol.
Went through the entire video without any cemetery puns? I'm impressed!
Violent2aShadow the title is a pun
Yeah, Obviously a grave error
*ba-dum-tsss*
When you start building over cemeteries and don't remove the bodies, you end up with Poltergeist.
What a waste of usable land.
annette fournier rather religious or not the land was bought to be that persons land for eternity, it's not just spiritual reasons it's stealing
Monday's insanity "Eternity", like it matters once you're room temperature.
2 Problems. 1: Nothing is eternal. It's simply not practical. Not even your "final" resting place.
2: If you have a claim of theft to bring up, in order to have a valid case of controversy, you need a victim. Do you have a victim who is claiming to be injured in this scenario?
Castiel Novak No shit! Have a ceremony if you like(funeral). Then turn me into bone dust or compost and grow something to sustain living people or the planet. Which in turn sustains life. My soul does not stay in this rotting shell after death. I am outta here. Such a waste of good land.
Castiel Novak No shit! Have a ceremony if you like(funeral). Then turn me into bone dust or compost and grow something to sustain living people or the planet. Which in turn sustains life. My soul does not stay in this rotting shell after death. I am outta here. Such a waste of good land.
I have never thought about this. When I die, my body is to be donated to science. When I am, I don't need the body.
What a load of faffing about. What's so wrong with cremation? Who wants to get stuffed in the ground anyhow? Echhh...
Abandoned Cemeteries a more common then you would know. I'm a heavy truck driver, seen quite a few, over grown ,not tended to at all. There's one in the southern part of La, near the cost where they built a highway through the cemetery, graves to the left, graves to the right, graves in the median. Seen more on the East coast then any place else but there really a lot.
Too many humans on the planet-slow down on having kids-its all about quality of life and quality of planet.
well no shit
This must be the worst case of the misuse of hyphen and the English language.
Sonny Zheng Its-possible-.
The birth rate is already below replacement levels in most countries on the planet. Yes, poor countries too. Problem is that people are living longer and we had previous population explosions. Of course... you're free to do your part for the cause and die young. But if you want to see birth rates go lower, we'd be working toward human extinction. Unless, that's your goal, in which case, carry on and ignore my input.
InandaroundTO LMAO, why would u bother with ppl like this. He doesnt care about facts, linguistic integrity, or sentence structures.
4:10 do you want poltergeists? cause thats how you get poltergeists!
OMG! This video gave me flashbacks of the movie Poltergeist. I don't want to build an in-ground pool just to have skeletons popping up here and there.
Interesting segment. One issue recently emerging concerning cemetery repurposing is the presence of thousands of gallons of formaldehyde and embalming chemicals in the soil and groundwater due to leaking caskets over the decades. What a delight it would be to step into one's basement one morning after a soaking rain to find it reeking with embalming fluid. I once saw a small old church cemetery being relocated from a downtown location in an old North Carolina city, to a new location outside of town, and even after many decades of dormancy, and no new burials, the area was heavy with the unmistakable secent of decaying human remains. It was especially nauseating when the night fog settled. It was dreadful and deeply disturbing.
I work at a pretty large cemetery in the US, it's about 250 acres. A cemetery really should never go bankrupt, as he said properly invested money will keep it going indefinitely.
Our cemetery is about 3/4 full, but the life has been extended because more and more people cremate(a service we offer), requiring much smart graves.
Also in the US when a cemetery goes busy usually due to illegal practices, 99% of the time the municipality it is in is required to take over, grounds keeping and maintenance.
We have a small graveyard in town kept up by donations. The trees are amazing, and some buried there were Pioneers to Oregon. It's beautiful.
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The concept of someone trying to get out from under owning a failing cemetery would make a great comedy. Kind of a extended weekend at bernies
In Australia, cemeteries are usually operated by the local government (county, shire, city etc), and use rate-payer funds to operate.
my grandparents recently bought two plots in a grave yard near them and apparently the way that particular cemetery works is that they allow up to 2 caskets, stacked, on a single plot or up to 6 cremation urns (two layers of 3). Assuming everyone was cremated, my grandparents, their children, and their children's children could all be buried together on those two plots
This reminds me of this walled-in lot of land that I wandered into, taking pictures one day. It was completely flat and barren, and looked as though overgrowth was managed through periodic burning. The color of the ground was yellow, brown, gray, and black. Nothing alive, nor taller than a centimeter coming out of the dry dirt. No indication that anything used to be there except a cross above the arched opening of the wall, and chunks of concrete appearing here and there. Under one of the many leafless trees which lined the walls, there was a pile of rubble. Some headstones were elaborately-engraved with high polish and sharp lettering. Others were more modest, and the etchings on their sandstone slabs were rounded and obscure. All of them, broken into pieces. As I read their partial names and dates, I thought to myself: "They weren't shitting about '...gone tomorrow'"
The idea I like is cemetery forests. get a large, already-empty plot of land, sell gravesites, and as tge body is buried, plant a sapling over it. Lightly mark the site with name, DoB, DoD, and epitaph, and repeat with each new body. Better for the environment, as easy or easier to upkeep (since a lot of the debris adds to the aesthetic), and you become a tree when you die, which is the closest any of us are actually going to get to an afterlife.
Why not get rid of coffins in the first place. Wrap the corpses in cerimonial clothes & let the corpse actually return to the earth through decomposition. Then the plot can be reused after a certian period of time. Once the corpse is gone.
Cremation with ashes in urn is the best option in my opinion as it saves space but yet allow love ones to visit. Since I'm already dead, why give the living more headaches.
Living in a house that was built on top of a cemetery with the Graves still there wouldn't bother me at all... IF I NEVER SAW POLTERGEIST!
I love graveyards. They're quiet, Erie, peaceful places.
I found this channel. I love Simon Whistler and his voice. It is calming. Helps me focus on my homework.
Can anybody say Poltergeist? "They're here".
Pittsburgh built a bypass around the city in the 1990's. In the process of building a road, an abandoned cemetery from the early 1800's was discovered. Homes and businesses were built over them.
There was no history of the cemetery. Construction was stopped, and the coffins were moved. It was very interesting.
New homeowner sees a ghost. Says" What are you doing here, I live here?" Ghost replies, "Well, I lived here first. Get out!!"
The astonishingly morbid practice of visiting one's relative's grave was brought home to me when my family insisted on burying my father instead of cremating him (as he wished). I actually feel guilty that I never visit the grave (I live nearly 1500 miles away from it). This guilt disturbs me because I firmly believe that when we die, all that is left is some organic debris which should be disposed of neatly, not leaving some shrine with a dead body underneath. We humans are so strange.
Aren't cemeteries typically associated with a Church or other religious house of worship? That way, the parishioners would tithe to keep it open. The probably wouldn't mind all that much, because it's likely their (departed) family members who benefit.
The whole time he was talking about "re purposing", it looked like he SO much wanted to crack a Poltergeist joke...
I worked at an understaffed cemetery, we had a skeleton crew... We were really busy, so we added a grave shift... We were really dependable and would always be the last guys to let a person down... We had to build a fence around the cemetery because people were dying to get in... One time, a 747 crashed into the cemetery and emergency crews recovered over 5,000 bodies... In our city, it was illegal to bury anyone who lived within 2 blocks of a cemetery to be buried in that cemetery ---- because ---- they were still alive...
I didn't even know I cared about this. Your videos are kinda random, but I end up liking them all.
sometimes when one is completely abandon and no one knows about it. Builders will push down or break up any tombstones, and just build over the land. It is highly illegal, but it happens all the time.
Oakland Cemetery in Atlanta, Georgia has a ton of volunteers and donations. They also make some money through tours and memberships as well. The tours are really informative and fun, during Halloween especially. They have people dress up as some of the more well known people buried there (Margaret Mitchell is one) and have them interact and tell their story as if they were possessed by the spirits themselves. They also have a bunch of themed tours through out the year, such as The Love Tour where they explain all the people connected by all forms of love, like lovers, husband and wife, parents etc. My favorite tour besides the Halloween one has the be the Architecture tour. You get to go in the Mausoleums and learn some pretty interesting things.
They only have about 500 plots left and maybe only have 12 burials a year tops. More weddings happen the burials! Families will sell their family plots to people who want to be buried there, so every now and again there is a new over the top grave surrounded by an old family plot. Their graves sitting in silent apprehension of the newcomer.
The reason I bring this up, other than this being a cemetery and it's how they make money, is because Oakland has an incredible come back story; Like Rocky, Sea Biscuit and Kim Kardashian. During the 70s it fell into complete disrepair because it ran out of money. People broke in and vandalized he beautiful statues and the graves and just tore the whole place to hell.
The volunteers are currently painstakingly restoring it to its former glory, dark history and all. A few of the statues are on the National Treasures list now! I am so proud of how much they have accomplished. It's worth a read! www.oaklandcemetery.com/
There's also a YA paranormal demon hunter-esque book set there. The Demon Trapper novels I think. Never read them, but when I volunteer there, they are in the gift shop.
That would make a really cool crime movie- the police find bodies behind the walls of the cellar, they investigate, and then right at the end of the movie, they discover the neighbourhood was built on top of a graveyard
here in Tucson Arizona, it can be difficult to build without finding an old, forgotten graveyard. multiple housing tracts have ended up on top of old cemeteries with the original "inhabitants" left below. I know of one pet cemetery that was obliterated for the sale of the land to developers, who can pretty much get away with anything thanks to our greedy, wasteful and tax-happy city council.
Given enough time all cemeteries get abandoned and forgotten. The same goes for anything any human creates period. There is no point in worrying about what happens to your remains other than giving comfort to the living people who cared about you.
This life goes by in a blink. Make sure you make it the best life you can.
Aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaand that's how the Poltergeist was made lol
In 1872 my great grandfather purchased 3 plots in a Catholic Cemetary which is now fully sold out. They have a perpetual care plan well supervised. By the way, there are 17 people in those plots. 15 before 1916, The last three buried were after 1955, all three of those had concrete vaults and metal caskets. So The plot is "full" except I am informed we could still inter cremated remains in shallow graves. Nearby my mom and dad are buried in one plot two deep.
There was a local university who wanted to build a new building on their property. When they were starting to build, they found a bunch of bodies. Turns out the university had doubled as a hospital during some epidemic. It happened so long ago, no one remembered the cemetery was even there...
So now we know how Poltergeist happened. Nice movie fact.
Different countries have different laws. In Canada you cannot build on a cemetery. Cemeteries, even if abandoned, cannot ever be developed. The graves cannot be moved. The Yonge Line subway in Toronto takes a turn east just south of Mount Pleasant Cemetery to the east side of Yonge to avoid another cemetery. When the subway was built, there was no tunneling and required a massive excavation. Since the cemetery could not be moved, the subway had to be routed to the east side.
I find the abandoned cemeteries a lot better than the others, it just feels more natural to be buried in nature with just a landmark to tell where you are
4:37 and on: that is how you get The Poltergeist
Well that explains why my aunt and I were allowed to visit my ancestors' grave. One of our cousins sold the land it was on and the graves are part of this garden about ten meters from the house (the ancestors lived back in the late 1700s)
German cemeteries do not cremate remains, they put the bones in a bone house - esp in Catholic cemeteries where cremation was banned for most of history.
too bad everyone's so damn greedy, I think a city or state should preserve land for graves that would be free to people who die there and available for purchase say husband and wife to be buried next to each other, but I think cemeteries are a sacred place, I mean it's the land of the dead, leave them to be in peace, there's plenty of other land to ruin, why be so cheap all the time?
generally you can have husband and wife buried in the same plot as he said they just dig a deeper hole
bosshoss69lee do you know how expensive land is? It's for the dead they don't give a shit, you know because they are dead.
yea, except being dead is kinda like---dead. There is no caring for comfort, dignity, peace or continuation of any of it, because when one dies, he or she is DEAD DEAD DEAD.
Sonny Zheng the body is dead the soul comes back another time in a new body, thats my views
flattire Still that gives no reason why it's necessary for us to preserve their body in this life especially if there just going to get a new one anyway
In the Philippines, most of the cemetery are above ground after all land are filled. After a while, or if their love ones requested it, they'd start making another level of graves above that. The most I've seen was around 3 to 4 stack but it can go higher in cities. They're like concrete boxes just a little bigger than the coffin stack one of top of another.
I remember hearing about a homeowner who wanted to build a landing strip for his airplane (I think it was in America). The landing strip went through an area that was once a cemetery. Ether he claimed to have relocated the graves to a new cemetery, or lied about the existence of the graves. Some time later, a relative of the deceased went looking for the grave only to find a paved landing strip running over the grave. A tombstone laying flat on the ground was the only clue that it was there. Needless to say, the family of the deceased where outraged and the authorities where notified. Beyond that, I don't recall hearing anything after.