Claudia POV Chronological timeline | Part 3 | The Real Savior

[@AbhishekAhuja0207]

You know the show is gold when chronologically 1954 comes after 1987 😅

[@shuctzk1092]

And if arranged chronologically will only make it worse..😂

[@DARK-zv4cl]

5:47 -11 november 1953*
sorry for the mistake,these timeline videos are very complex and hard to do.Thanks for all the support

[@Watdefakkel]

We appreciate the effort that you place into it!

[@saikatmajumder3284]

Wait a minute, I thought Claudia telling Adam about the Origin World has happened only once. So what did Claudia do on the loops before that?

[@Speaker-ku4jk]

@@saikatmajumder3284 she's killed by Noah

[@saikatmajumder3284]

@@Speaker-ku4jk here it is shown that she is killed by Noah after she tells Adam about the Origin World. She even claims that this is the first time this happens. Then what happened with Claudia the other times, when Adam didn't meet het after killing Alt. Martha, and killed Eva?

[@jaredjenkins99]

@@saikatmajumder3284 I think you could interpret it as everything else happens the same way except she doesn't go to Adam and Adam doesn't send Jonas to original world. Pretty simple, just the continuation of the loop.
However really, I don't think that scene happened only once. It happens every time the bigger loops repeats. All this stuff has to happen forever, infinitely in order for Regina to live in the Original world. Without the alternate two universes, Jonas/Martha never would have saved the Origin world. And so Claudia has to, at some point in the loop always talk to Adam in order to save Regina.

[@amraluiz5210]

4:00 I've seen the world without you.
wow that was such a powerful sentence! I asked myself what did it meant so many times haha until I watched season 3

[@mohamdaoui1]

Came to the comments section for this! such genius writing!!

[@vedanshbudhia8148]

The more I look into this show the more details I find. At first there were two groups fighting over control over time: Adam and Eva; light and shadow. But to complete the triquetra there had to be a third which was Claudia who basically controlled both the worlds and was the only one who had the best understanding of time and knew how to play the game.

[@sugab3160]

She was a smart kid and intelligent woman, the first to go to college

[@leprechaunsteve8930]

8:08
“It’s my dog, just like it’s yours”
*Notices different colored eyes*
“Oh no no no. No no no no.”

[@LoveThomas07]

She said she used the loophole to create two versions of herself. One who gets killed by Noah and the other who has the conversation with Adam in 2053.

[@no_one8224]

No it's the Same Claudia
There were no 2 versions
Watch the video, Young Claudia tells Old Claudia "Tell Papa that I'm sorry"
And Old Claudia travels to the Past

[@Arthur-nc9bl]

@@no_one8224 i dont understand it

[@luizpaulo3995]

@@no_one8224 so, did she lie to Jonas again?

[@toonami1338]

@LoveThomas no

[@LoveThomas07]

@@toonami1338 Dude this comment is like two years ago.

[@marccalebflores8270]

Hey When's the Gretchen timeline?
Edit:Sike no i wont thank you for the likes

[@FortoFight]

Gretchen is the main character, change my mind.

[@theabhishekmittal]

Lol

[@theabhishekmittal]

yeah. A video of 5 seconds.lol

[@marccalebflores8270]

She probably died during the apocalypse explosion

[@EXQUIS1T3]

@@marccalebflores8270 why did u have to put that thought into my mind :( 😭

[@Marcell2aG]

I know it's not easy putting these together. You're doing an amazing job.

[@user-ct7km3pb3i]

The hardest part for me in the serie is truly understanding what claudia did to figure it all, i reaaly can't

[@Youngfezee]

It’s crazy how all 3 versions of Claudia was the cause of her fathers idea of the “White Devil” he first sees old Claudia and calls her the “white devil” and explains it to young Claudia, where she repeats the same words “your too good of a person, the world doesn’t deserve you” then 33 years later, middle aged Claudia kills her father and is called “The white devil” but it never would’ve happened if Old Claudia didn’t go back in time to her first interaction with her father in 23 June, 1954, and the name “The white devil” wouldn’t have existed.

[@user-on6zo9ed8w]

Make Martha's Chronological Order Alternative

[@LoaThunder]

Amazing! I don't understand why the scene, where she talks to Adam isn't the last one in her chronological timeline?

[@DARK-zv4cl]

Everything is connected

[@isakkallsmyr9854]

I don´t really understand that either, if Jonas and Martha succeed in ending the knot according to her instructions, why does she even need to uphold the cycle? Her younger self wouldnt even need to learn about time travel because she would cease to exist shortly thereafter

[@bradley3157]

Isak Källsmyr because the future influences the past

[@taenumpo]

That scene isn’t about the end of everything. It’s just the end of 1 of 3 parallel event. You have to think that there are three parallel events which will happen again forever and always connect together. One parallel won’t be able to happen without the others. In order to make Regina alive in the origin world, all the situations must happen again and again.

[@bratzenvater]

And now the final time line about Noah pleaaazzzzeeeee.... He is for me also the most confusing character with a lot of traveling through times. Vote for Noah!

[@yxxng1z943]

she is def the most intelligent character and the only one who learned how to play with the time and the loops

[@vrishankdesai1925]

Definetly the MVP of dark

[@earambe5958]

i believe this series will be a history of television...

[@happyhayot]

I think there's not an easy way of knowing exactly when Adam and Claudia's last scene happens in Claudia's POV but I feel it's not quite in the right spot here, since she can't save the world and erase both realities and then visit adult Claudia with Gretchen because the world doesn't exist after that point. I think the moment where she splits happens after. My theory is this. I think the elder Claudia that talked to 80s Claudia did not know about Martha's quantum entanglement and died by the hands of Noah (she is dead, but she has to die again, when 80s Claudia gets old again). I believe that her having the ability to travel without time constraints and also knowing the date when she dies made it possible for her to have positive feedback on the loop because she could talk to her younger 80s self before she died. This feedback eventually leads an 80s Claudia to think that in order to fully understand the two worlds she must kill alt Claudia and travel between both worlds unnoticed. Then she finds out what Eve's been doing for the first time, and she uses this concept of multiple realities to ultimately fix the loop by making a mirror of herself, one in which she goes to die again by the hand of Noah, and the other goes to talk to Adam and end up terminating the loop. That's my own theory. I would appreciate any comments on it.

[@toonami1338]

she doesnt split

[@mi.ma.9419]

My interpretation of Dark. Claudia eventually manages to break the knot by talking to Adam about the existance of the third world. In that scene, she says to him something like "You tried to break the knot an infinite number of times, but this conversation between me and you is happening for the first time." This means that Eve won an infinite number of times, as she succeeded to preserve the loop. So, I guess that the one that we see in dark is the actual last cycle, in which Claudia figures out. But what was the role of Claudia in all the previous cycles in which Eve won? I have three theories. First: in the previous cycles she has always sided with Eve, she wanted to preserve the loop becouse she thought that Regina's father was Tronte, so that in order to make her exist the knot had to be preserved. So she has always done stuff like going to talk to her younger self, pushing Jonas into causing his father suicide, making Tronte kill Regina, etc.. But at a certain cycle she understands that Regina's father is not Tronte, so she ends the loop as she knows that Regina will live in the third world. Second theory: Claudia has always known that Regina's father was not Tronte, but she has always failed in finding the origin of the knot, nevertheless she continued causing the events hoping that the next version of herself would figure out, until she was killed by Noah. It's like if in every cycle she gains some small additional knowlege about how everything works and those little pieces of knowlege are in some way acquired by her younger self. Third theory: actually the knot is never broken. This means that Claudia is lying to Adam again in the last scene of september 2053 (or maybe she really believes that the knot is broken but it isn't), and also that conversation keeps happening over and over. Claudia uses the apocalypse to create an alternative version of herself, which has the final conversation with Adam. This creates an alternative reality in which Jonas and Martha prevent the car accident of Thannaus's son, and in this alternative reality only the origin world exist. So Claudia knows that there is this alternative reality in which Regina lives, but there is also the reality in which the are the two interconnected worlds and maybe this other reality (in which Regina dies) must exist to preserve the one in which she lives, so that in the reality with Eve's and Adam's worlds things must happen as they always have.

[@dustinhellstern7728]

Speaking of LiFE & repetitions leading to Redemption….That Existential theory is Believed by Biblical☦️ that Jesus went to Hell not for 3 days, only…. But An ETERNITY for each Soul He has saved, is saving, & WiLL continue to save. (Frederíc Neitchze’s philosophy is very much Limited, actually.)
Søren Kierkegaard & Emanuel Swedenborg knew about all possible Lives, Worlds, & Existences.

[@siddzyt3810]

1:53 now which is the real Claudia , Adams Claudia has already killed 1986 alternate version of Eva's Claudia, is she 2019 Claudia of alternate Eva's world

[@abishek1910]

That's her future self.. see the whole video Claudia will ask sorry to her father these both are same Claudia just different time

[@harshrana3012]

she is her future self only time travelling randomly to tell others what they have to do

[@jimmykim9001]

I'm confused as to why stuff occurs after Claudia tells Adam how to fix the knot. As soon as Adam goes into the past, his decisions and everyone else's decisions are determined instantly, so all the effects into the future should occur instantly right? So doesn't that mean that Claudia should disappear as soon as Adam travels into the past? Is the Claudia we see after fixing the knot a different Claudia? One who didn't figure out how to fix the knot and is simply continuing the cycle? If so, then why does she say "if everything goes correctly, Regina will live"? Isn't that statement based on the fact that she figured out how to fix to knot? If not, is she just saying that thinking that continuing the cycle will allow Regina to live? Why would she think that?

[@DARK-zv4cl]

The official Dark Netflix site has your questions answered

[@bagusodil9433]

It's been tough series, now i realized that i clearly missunderstood of some timeline where it should had be. Thanks a lot really appreciate it, Well played!😅

[@georgianbuddha9805]

wow what a great work, thank you so much for this

[@Gabriel_4520]

This is amazing.
Are u planning to do more series like this? And If you do, what characters do you have in mind?

[@DARK-zv4cl]

After every Charachter POV timeline you'll have a chance to vote the next one.Stay tuned for the next poll

[@BobAndrews69]

@@DARK-zv4cl Gretchen pls

[@amanvardhan8893]

If everything is in loop...then why did she say to adam in 2053 that she used a fraction in time before apocalypse to send herself in a different direction....to be there

[@rithistewartx5908]

Yes I have the same doubt too

[@BatmanHQYT]

Are you sure that Adam scene from the finale is placed correctly? I'm pretty sure it happens after Claudia meets her middle aged self, since she only meets Adam after the apocalypse happens. The way the finale makes it out to be is that Claudia explains everything to Adam, and then has one last meeting with her younger self before going to 1954.

[@harshrana3012]

Time playing with everyone and then there is Claudia who played with time

[@Junior-xg5ux]

That scene when Claudia meets Adam should happen after the events of her death
she dies in June (1954/1987) and that meeting was in september of 2053 (1987)

[@DARK-zv4cl]

you still have no idea how this game is played

[@Junior-xg5ux]

@@DARK-zv4cl LOL i'm so confused

[@bagusodil9433]

@@DARK-zv4cl Sounds familiar, heard those somewhere hahaha

[@emiliorodriguez8104]

Junior I think Claudia used the same method Eva used to create two versions of Martha, resulting in two versions of Jonas as well (the one who is saved by Martha and later dies and the one who isn’t saved by Martha and becomes Jonas. The Martha that doesn’t save Jonas (Adam) is the one who kills the other Jonas later). I think Claudia used the same thing to create a superposition of realities, but I’m not sure

[@Junior-xg5ux]

@@emiliorodriguez8104 Claudia said to Adam that she uses the swich point in the apocalypse to send herself in another direction
I thought this was a canonic information, so
THAT claudia who speaks to Adam is the one who takes other direction outside the loop and she spent 12 years studying how to break the cycle
i'm not sure that I'm correct, maybe I am totally wrong

[@no_one8224]

Did Claudia killing Alt Claudia happened every cycle or this is the First time??
If this is the First time then why doesn't Old Alt Claudia exists in previous cycles??

[@toonami1338]

there is only one cycle and it always happens

[@umeshlove8938]

I have theory for it.
The chronology of Claudia is same as shown by all 4 POV videos made Dark youtube just that Claudia uses trick everytime in a hope. The theory older Claudia lies 6 times in ray of hope which would change the course of events
Claudia's 1st Lie:(To teenage Jonas in 2021)After appoclapsye in 2021 when they are building Dark Matter To never Lose hope and he can close the passage after 33 years .
Claudia's 2nd Lie:(To Eva's World Old Growing Eva)Somewhere around 2041-42., Bluffing to be Eva's World Claudia.
Claudia's 3rd Lie:(To middle aged Jonas) To never Lose hope and he can close the passage and able to save Martha this time.
Claudia's 4th Lie:(To Peter and Trontr
1st Lie: To her younger self that if she gets involved in time travel Their Regina would live
Claudia's 5th Lie:(To most younger version of Jonas) in 2019 in the scene Michael Suicide He can save Maratha
Claudia's 6th Lie:(To Adam) In 2053 that their conversation is happening for first time.
All first 5 Lies are necessary and must always so that Claudia can say 6th lie to Adam and after that point it is up to Adam to believe her or not.
In show I think the show never showed us the actual circular flow of events .
In normal circular event after Claudia lies 6th Lie to Adam and leaves Adam does believe this time in his life and goes to murder Alt Eva which in turn triggers all other events but the timeline which show showed us this time this particular version of Adam believes Claudia lie and thus the statement of "Jonas's Role is much bigger in these things" true and thus making path for teenage Jonas and Alt teenage Martha to destroy the Knot.

[@diar__d264]

this is wrong, Claudia used the loophole. There a 2 Claudias after the apocalypse. One is the Claudia that dies, the other is the Claudia that goes to Adam and tell him what the origin is.

[@DARK-zv4cl]

you still have no idea how this game is played

[@jaredjenkins99]

I agree that there are 2 different Clauida's, especially if she's telling the truth about using the apocalypse to create another quantum split/loop like Eva did, but how do you know that the Claudia who goes to Adam isn't also the Claudia that's shot by Noah? That makes sense and is the simplest answer, but it's never said or even implied in the show, to my knowledge.

[@Fucisko]

@@jaredjenkins99 The implication comes from how Claudia explains she used the loophole to send herself in a different direction. I think Claudia that died in the forest is simply how it happened every time until she changed it, and then she went to Adam instead. However it is never actually confirmed when these scenes with Old Claudia actually take place in relation to her own timeline, so all we can do is speculate really.

[@AlejandroLopez-fc1dg]

When you think you understand everything in this series and then suddenly you don't. Now I need an Agnes POV , why does she hate Noah? What happen between them, on who's side she is ? AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

[@omolisa3783]

Maybe she hated him for killing their father. But yeah, I would've loved to see more!

[@ninilover6645]

Nobody:
DARK channel: Everything is connected.
lol lysm 💞

[@ctg2499]

At 0:52 does that count as suicide?

[@mangosharky4377]

Wait so she went back in time to meet younger Claudia and Egon after telling Adam about the third world and then she got killed?

[@bagusodil9433]

Yup, i know it's hard to believe but the Director gaves us a Masterpiece. The way he put the timeline randomly among many perspective age/year of each character to deliver in this series to the audience it's just mind blowing.

[@thepay2]

@@bagusodil9433 but how can we be sure she met adam before she met her younger self? genuine question. what is the hint in the drama to tell you that?

[@SeraOzts]

I have a question. What happened between Noah and Agnes?

[@Richvwolfie8]

Basically out of desperation Hanno corrupted his purpose and start acting on his own to build a time machine to change things, but given that Adam and Claudia knew that outcome they let him do it. Meanwhile Agnes was more obedient and objective and probably they clash because of that, but I also think that at some point both (Hanno and Agnes) leaves Sic Mundus and given how Noah was far from saving, Agnes earn her return to Sic Mundus by killing her brother. That's what I understand at least. If you ask me, their family is one of the most tragic of the series, Silja dies by giving birth to Agnes, Hanno kills his own father who is Bartosz and Agnes ended up killing her brother Hanno, so sad.

[@SeraOzts]

@@Richvwolfie8 Thank you!

[@DARK-zv4cl]

Noah's timelime will answer a lot of your questions

[@Oakland510]

DARK still, it doesn’t make sense how agnes coldly killed her brother. When young Noah killed his dad he was crying

[@SeraOzts]

@@Oakland510 IKR! I think this is one of the things that writers leave in our imaginations.

[@umeshlove8938]

7:16 I think most controversial and contracting and confusion creating statement by Adam's World Claudia because we never see the split of Adam's World Claudia though she mentions this at 7:16

[@melissa-co4wh]

I love Claudia so much

[@rychupeja6223]

6:42 Music?

[@rajnishkushx]

02:07 where does this young Claudia go??

[@arjunm6484]

What does she mean when she said she used the loophole to send herself in a different direction? Is there another version of claudia somewhere ?

[@sumedhsukhdeve9117]

U remember she kills claudia from Eva's world and take her place and her time machine(loophole) too and travels to Eva's world, that's it, that is loophole

[@sumedhsukhdeve9117]

And different direction means Eva's world, and after she says Adam to use that loophole(time machine), so that Martha and Jonas save tannhaus family.

[@arjunm6484]

Thank you for clarifying that!!

[@sumedhsukhdeve9117]

@@arjunm6484 your welcome bro!

[@l1nk666]

7:14 Claudia said that she also used the loophole in order to send herself back to here in 2053. But whether the loophole only happens nearly earlier before the Apocalypse happens? My question is: after what event did she go back to June 27, 2020 (in Adam's world) or November 8, 2019 (in Eva's world) to split her timeline into two? And how did these two lines evolve? Which one ended up leading to her own death in 1954?

[@ichlaladitya7611]

10:33 damn

[@Thetopnoobpro]

11:02 thought it was the Claudia that went to Adam that tells egos she is sorry not the one that is killed by Noah, whatever

[@DARK-zv4cl]

you still have no idea how this game is played

[@Thetopnoobpro]

DARK u DONT ethier XD

[@Thetopnoobpro]

DARK if u think about it it would make sense if it was Claudia who told egon she is sorry, but not get killed by Noah, maybe watch episode 8 s3 again and you will know what I’m talking about
Or maybe I’m way off track xd

[@ferykonnen1265]

Dark aka Incest serie
I just realized after finishing it they are literally all related lol
Big one family 😂

[@gourabdas8935]

While the transition from 2053 to 1986..
At 7:36 old Claudia gave her orb shape time machine to Adam..fine enough to untie the knot .....but later on how did she get that box shaped time machine which she used to get back to the 86 to meet her younger version ...????

[@davideparolo8253]

Since Claudia gave the time sphere to Adam, how does she move from september 2053 to june 1987?

[@no_one8224]

Maybe she took Sphere from her younger self
Just like Helge had 2 coins in his hands after killing Ulrich
But both the coins are same

[@dcsmall1]

I love this so much!!! Thank you for doing it, she's my favorite character!
Question:Wouldn't the last scene be the timeline knot being destroyed and she ceases to be?

[@nnomis9349]

6:11 when did she split the timline? we know that there are 2 adams, one that kills eva and one that doesnt kill her but how and when did claudia split the timeline and how can it be that adam: A traveled to eva world: A and killed her and the other adam traveled to the other eva world and didnt killed her

[@vrancea2029]

But how did she travel from 25 september 2053 back to 22 june 1987??

[@DARK-zv4cl]

With the Golden Time Travel Sphere,the one she got from Alt Claudia when she killed her

[@vrancea2029]

Actually she gives it to Adam who gives to Jonas before her travel

[@no_one8224]

@@vrancea2029 I think the hint was given when Claudia Sees 2 Coins in the hand of Helge when he kills Ulrich in Alt World, I guess her Version of that Ball Time Machine gives it to Adam and takes other from her younger version(whom she met after sending adam) and goes back to past
I'm still not sure what she meant about I used the Loophole for Myself

[@isabels.ninapaytanc.8865]

But you forgot the day of her death

[@DARK-zv4cl]

last part coming soon

[@maximemercier9704]

@@DARK-zv4cl
Adam: Es gibt... einen vierten teil?

[@Thetopnoobpro]

5:46 11 November 2019???? Xd
I believe it is 1953

[@rithistewartx5908]

Yes I guess that's wrong too.

[@mikedemasibass]

6 minutes in, there's an error in the date shown. It reads 2019, it clearly is 1953 in her meeting with 30~ year old Tannhaus as she hands him the blueprints.

[@aaronc4899]

Dark needed a companion web series where they could fill in some of the holes. The timelines of Agnes and the Unknown (in both worlds) are the biggest questions. We know next to nothing about the birth of the Unknown, how his relationship with two Agnes’s occurred, and what Agnes’s fate was. It’s implied here that main-Agnes ran off with Doris Tiedemann. And a lot of these people were traveling through time “magically”. Going through one-way portals and coming back; zipping around without having a sphere or suitcase.

[@anisharelan]

Great video 👍👍

[@dustinhellstern7728]

Claudia is a badass later in Life…

[@thirupathireddy3907]

1:55 from which timeline the another Claudia came from ?

[@no_one8224]

2040
The one who killed Alt Claudia

[@lunivamaharjan927]

Can someone please explain to me...
Jonas grew up with Claudia or with noah and Elizabeth....?????? After the apocalypse

[@anteksadkowski5166]

But how Claudia from 2053 (after talking to Adam and then with younger Claudia) did travel to 1987? As i know the God Particle is no more and time machine has no fuel.

[@no_one8224]

I think the hint was given when Claudia Sees 2 Coins in the hands of Helge when he kills Ulrich in Alt World, I guess her Version of that Ball Time Machine gives it to Adam and takes other from her younger version(whom she met after sending adam) and goes back to past
I'm still not sure what she meant about I used the Loophole for Myself

[@antonioschannel1714]

Everything after 07:41 won't happend, right? Because Jonas and Martha fix the knot in the final episode?

[@idontwannabeanonymous4725]

She's a true ravenclaw, while adam and eva are slytherin

[@M4DS_GAMING]

I think the chronology is not accurate, you see when she meets young Tanhaus, the date and year is not right, it's showing November 2019. H.G Tanhaus was old at that time

[@Gabriel_4520]

He said it was an accident, an he placed the wrong year

[@je_sims.8149]

Tronte vivo en 2053 con el aspecto del 2019?

[@milu9588]

The next one is the Noah's. :3

[@serpentineeyelash7528]

1:31 How do you know that scene was on 25 September 2053? Where was that indicated? And how did Tronte get to 2053?
1:51 Again, how do you know this scene was on 25 September 2053?

[@DARK-zv4cl]

Everything is connected

[@lilamvs]

Is there going to be a part 4?

[@DARK-zv4cl]

yes
august 13

[@rodrigoaravena2038]

Please make one of Helge

[@Arch.Designer]

WHY CLAUDIA : she was smart at Math she used to learn helge maths when they were youngs .

[@FortoFight]

I watched the show in July of this year and was disappointed that I'd waited too long to see the show on the dates in June 2020. I guess I have a couple more days of this year to use though, and 2040 if I miss those.

[@je_sims.8149]

Como Claudia seguía joven en 2053 pero anciana en 2052?

[@satourohman6935]

3:59
Claudia Spoiler for Season 3 haha

[@SuperGohanGH]

noah pls

[@oscarsimonperez832]

The real deal.

[@Liorsito]

Really liked the video, but where is claudia death? she do everything again to conserve the cycle so younger claudia could grow like her but at the end noah killed her in the forest

[@Liorsito]

maybe im just confused idkkk, Anyway great job!

[@DARK-zv4cl]

@@Liorsito the Claudia timeline series is not over yet,last part coming soon

[@Liorsito]

@@DARK-zv4cl oh thanks!

[@umeshlove8938]

I have theory for it.
The chronology of Claudia is same as shown by all 4 POV videos made Dark youtube just that Claudia uses trick everytime in a hope. The theory older Claudia lies 6 times in ray of hope which would change the course of events
Claudia's 1st Lie:(To teenage Jonas in 2021)After appoclapsye in 2021 when they are building Dark Matter To never Lose hope and he can close the passage after 33 years .
Claudia's 2nd Lie:(To Eva's World Old Growing Eva)Somewhere around 2041-42., Bluffing to be Eva's World Claudia.
Claudia's 3rd Lie:(To middle aged Jonas) To never Lose hope and he can close the passage and able to save Martha this time.
Claudia's 4th Lie:(To Peter and Trontr
1st Lie: To her younger self that if she gets involved in time travel Their Regina would live
Claudia's 5th Lie:(To most younger version of Jonas) in 2019 in the scene Michael Suicide He can save Maratha
Claudia's 6th Lie:(To Adam) In 2053 that their conversation is happening for first time.
All first 5 Lies are necessary and must always so that Claudia can say 6th lie to Adam and after that point it is up to Adam to believe her or not.
In show I think the show never showed us the actual circular flow of events .
In normal circular event after Claudia lies 6th Lie to Adam and leaves Adam does believe this time in his life and goes to murder Alt Eva which in turn triggers all other events but the timeline which show showed us this time this particular version of Adam believes Claudia lie and thus the statement of "Jonas's Role is much bigger in these things" true and thus making path for teenage Jonas and Alt teenage Martha to destroy the Knot.