Pakistan: Origins, Identity & Future I Pervez Hoodbhoy Book Launch at PIDE

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  • Опубліковано 9 тра 2024
  • PIDE Hosted an enlightening seminar and book talk featuring renowned scholar Prof. Pervez Hoodbhoy.
    Pakistan's history, identity, and future as explored in his latest book, "Pakistan: Origins, Identity, and the Future." With penetrating insight and meticulous scholarship, Hoodbhoy dismantles myths and offers constructive suggestions for a brighter tomorrow. Don't miss this opportunity to engage with a thought-provoking analysis that challenges existing narratives and invites a rethinking of Pakistan's very essence.
    Hoodbhoy’s richly textured inquiry into Pakistan’s evolution from early days onward brings out reality, myth, hope. With penetrating insight and scrupulous care, he explores and dismantles multiple poisonous fallacies. But this is no Jeremiad. The cures, he shows, exist as do hopes for a much brighter future.
    A hard-hitting and truth-seeking analysis of how #Pakistan came to be what it is today with the conclusion, first, that the very idea of Pakistan must be rethought, and second, suggestions as to how this might be done.
    Pervez Hoodbhoy’s book demands to be read. It provides the most thorough reversal of existing narratives about Pakistan’s origins. A bracing and counter-intuitive interpretation of nationalist history.’
    In a bold sweep, Pervez Hoodbhoy seeks to analyze Pakistan’s nationhood, its origins, its present, and its #future, as also figures critical to the country’s formation. The result is a clinical and candid book, yet one that is also constructive and very readable.
    The book unabashedly lays bare facts of #history that in the past were only just whispered. A #brave expose and, equally, a desire for a different #Pakistan that few dare talk about.
    Hoodbhoy weighs evidence as he fearlessly digs into explaining and resolving crucial issues that present-day Pakistanis face. His scholarship is meticulous and wide-ranging, laying a foundation for an extraordinarily insightful exploration of Pakistan’s history and its #social, #cultural, and political dynamics extending into the present day. Withal, he reaches out to the reader with straightforward and clear questions, inviting informed revision of the conventional understanding of Pakistan.
    #Politics #Pakistan #Partition #independence #1947 #India #indiapakistan #BookTalk #Hoodbhoy #BookLaunch #Seminar #PIDE #ThinkTank #EconomicCrisis #Economy
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 488

  • @goutamdas7097
    @goutamdas7097 15 днів тому +6

    As always Prof. Hoodbhoy comes up with sharp rational arguments. Thanks for this enlightening debate and some time in India I doubt if we can have such debates on our religious exuberance. More fundamental question: is this book available in India either paper version or Kindle?

    • @PIDEOfficial
      @PIDEOfficial  15 днів тому

      Thanks for the feedback Dear. Stay tuned @PIDEOfficial
      This Book is available at amazon & routledge

    • @djawalikar2006
      @djawalikar2006 14 днів тому

      yes. on Amazon, in two formats - paperback and hard cover. However the price is discouraging.

  • @harshittiwari7424
    @harshittiwari7424 Місяць тому +103

    Nuclear physicist talks about history..... historian talks on economy..... economists talks about geopolitics..... politician talks on religion... CLASSIC PAKISTANI.

    • @Slayr929
      @Slayr929 Місяць тому +7

      Indian subcontinent ke paxtani converts are rare breed yeh toh brief kar Raha hein 😂😂

    • @baltistanpoints4580
      @baltistanpoints4580 Місяць тому +8

      Engineer on religion 😂

    • @rakadus
      @rakadus Місяць тому +7

      And Army makes bread and butter!

    • @proximus-wh3rv
      @proximus-wh3rv Місяць тому +1

      😂

    • @rohitghildiyal8643
      @rohitghildiyal8643 Місяць тому +1

      😂😂😂😂

  • @karolbagh3793
    @karolbagh3793 Місяць тому +121

    If Dogs have a Holy Book which says its their holy duty to Bite every one who is not a Dog, Then I will be scared of every dog in the World 🐕

    • @MaradonaVsPele
      @MaradonaVsPele Місяць тому +19

      Most brief and complete comment, I've seen ever 👏👏👏👌👌👌👌👌

    • @karolbagh3793
      @karolbagh3793 Місяць тому +2

      @@MaradonaVsPele ✌️

    • @karolbagh3793
      @karolbagh3793 Місяць тому +2

      @@pawanbadhla424 🤣🤪👍😜😹

    • @prabhatsingh513
      @prabhatsingh513 Місяць тому +13

      Thats the main thing and when you say " i am scared of them",they will play a dog victim card and say you guys are dogophobic 😂

    • @rohitghildiyal8643
      @rohitghildiyal8643 Місяць тому +8

      Dogophobia.

  • @navmeshsingh
    @navmeshsingh Місяць тому +149

    Dr Hoodbhoy should replace his Dr to Maulana Pervez Hoodbhoy 😂

    • @billbohat8646
      @billbohat8646 Місяць тому +3

      You’re citizens of 5th biggest economy but mind is stuck with Pakistan think bigger

    • @AKumar-co7oe
      @AKumar-co7oe Місяць тому +28

      ​​@@billbohat8646 we study Pakistan to understand what not to do and what a failed society looks like.
      For actual solutions we study US, china, Vietnam, Taiwan, South Korea.
      And this Maulana Hoodbhoy really doesn't know about Sushruta does he? He was all praise for ancient Chinese inventions the other day at the Black Hole while restricting ancient Indian achievements only to mathematics - not realizing that such things could not arise except in the context of an overall complex society.
      These guys will die happy that India is going down the 'same path as them' while ignoring all the signs that there are important differences. All signs point to the fact that Indian youth today knows far more 'real' history than they did a decade ago.
      "Indians don't have interethnic marriages" - kis dunia main rehte hain yeh buddhe ?

    • @navmeshsingh
      @navmeshsingh Місяць тому +19

      @@billbohat8646 Your so called Dr. or Maulana Pervez Hoodbhoy mind is stuck with India.

    • @GuzzarAwan
      @GuzzarAwan Місяць тому +1

      @@AKumar-co7oe Guy Takes lesson from Romila Thapar and Likes, But seems to have forgot to ask her abt Shusruta as Even the Loony leftists accept Sushruta as a Surgeon and all the World doctors too .
      Also lets say Indians brag that they wer so good at science and all, so whats the problem, atleast we r taking pride over something constructive and it motivates us to do Science again. Whereas This Dudes country ppl Take pride on Mythologies like Mo had ridden a Flaying donkey with women Face to jannah and Met allah ... Bla Bla. THey also take pride in Abdali , Ghori and all.

    • @proximus-wh3rv
      @proximus-wh3rv Місяць тому +2

      😂

  • @karolbagh3793
    @karolbagh3793 Місяць тому +43

    Hindus who promote Hindu Muslim Unity, should first ensure Shia-Sunni Unity 😂😂😂

  • @vherlekar
    @vherlekar Місяць тому +37

    Deng Xiaoping said - I don't care if the cat is black or white, so long as it catches mice...
    Pakistanis 👆 say - we don't care if the cat is black or white, so long as it...reads the Quraan! 👍😁

    • @DWAGON1818
      @DWAGON1818 10 днів тому

      Hey we git a country through it by breaking your country. So it paid off.

  • @devshetty7465
    @devshetty7465 Місяць тому +55

    Looks like maulana pervez hoodboy frozen in 1947. Don't lecture India, we know how to manage our people, minority. Talk about your minority, people.

    • @avinash7335
      @avinash7335 Місяць тому +5

      Our minorities are billionaires and happily enjoying in India except second biggest majority all though a minority of them who wants to grow and not refrain itself in ghettos are also developed and progressing.

    • @GuzzarAwan
      @GuzzarAwan Місяць тому +10

      He also takes lot of Pride on Islamic Golden age of Abbasids which was in reality nothing but he collected all the Knowledge generated in India China and Europe and tried to mix them and rewritten in Arabic. We have lot of evidences of Them copying indian Ancient sanskrit text and Even stories Like Panchtantra were re written in arabic and called as Kalīla wa Dimna and becam lot of famos in arabic world later reached europe too. So was Indian Decimal based Number system.
      But biggest Problem is, THe ppl who came to India to spread islam etc had no links with abbasid what so ever . they were Simple barbarians from central asia.

    • @Slayr929
      @Slayr929 Місяць тому

      ​@@avinash7335exactly I am from Kerala india ke 14 billionaires Kerala se ata hein usmein 8 log toh minority ka he Christian and muslims and sabse bada wealth ek muslim ke pass he MA Yusuf Ali owner of Lulu group theses are haters of this this land rahne do inko aise

    • @snathan3198
      @snathan3198 Місяць тому +2

      Very well said!

    • @mrgyani
      @mrgyani Місяць тому +1

      Truth cannot be hidden. He is only speaking the truth about India..

  • @manojchowdhary4208
    @manojchowdhary4208 Місяць тому +28

    Pakistanis are the most tolerant people in the world.
    Usually I hear Hindu baniya, Hindu Kaffir, Ghazwa-e-hind, lal qile par jhanda phrases on Pakistani discussions. These are all phrases of love and tolerance.
    Also see how Pakistanis have treated Hindus, bengalis, Shias, Balochs, Pashtuns, Sikhs, Parsis, Jews, Christians, Ahmadis, and now Afghans. No one will call Pakistanis intolerant.

  • @htnaku4947
    @htnaku4947 Місяць тому +21

    The Islamic Conquest of India is probably the bloodiest story in history. It is a discouraging tale, for its evident moral is that civilization is a precarious thing, whose delicate complex of order and liberty, culture and peace may at any time be overthrown by barbarians invading from without or multiplying within.
    - By Will Durant an American writer, historian, and philosopher.

  • @karolbagh3793
    @karolbagh3793 Місяць тому +20

    For establishing peace in your country and defeating Islam one has to clean its backyard
    For Israel it's Palestine
    For Europe it's North Africa
    For India It's Pakistan
    For China it's Xinjiang
    For Greece it's Turkey
    For Armenia it's Azerbaijan

  • @karolbagh3793
    @karolbagh3793 Місяць тому +26

    Sir Syed Ahmed Khan was an Islamist, a Ashraf Islamist,
    His only objective was to protect the leftover Muslim Elite remained with appropriated Landbanks over the generations after downfall of Mughal Empire.
    He was very clear about the distinction between Foreign Elite and Domestic Converted Pasmanda Muslims.
    The Hatred with this land the native Hindu Culture is Permanent

  • @karolbagh3793
    @karolbagh3793 Місяць тому +29

    If Pakistan claim Kashmir because it's a Muslim majority state.
    Then on same merit India should claim whole Subcontinent because Hindus are in Majority
    😂😂😂😂

    • @VinodBandari-ps5yd
      @VinodBandari-ps5yd Місяць тому +2

      there was a debate in un over jk inwhich atal bhiari ji took participate along with the then fm khurshid where india put the proposition to Pakistan if u want to claim jk on the basis of religion then r u willing to take 22 million scums aswell 😂😂

  • @supersayaaain
    @supersayaaain Місяць тому +29

    Parvez hoodboy saying " apna mazhub dusre pe naa thope " 😂😂. Now he come to know what non Muslims feel😂

  • @karolbagh3793
    @karolbagh3793 Місяць тому +14

    Indan Subcontinent was 99.99% Hindu before 1091 A.D.
    Which now is below 60% so where did all Hindu vanished.

  • @karolbagh3793
    @karolbagh3793 Місяць тому +10

    Knowingly OR Unknowingly Muslims of Pakistan Bangladesh and India are pushing Hindus for Akhand Bharat and Hindu Rashtra 😂😂😂

    • @GuzzarAwan
      @GuzzarAwan Місяць тому

      😂😂😂 It seems they want it more desperately than Indians and hindu

    • @globalinsightnews1
      @globalinsightnews1 18 днів тому

      Having dream will not bring reality my boy😂😂

  • @rameshrajs8140
    @rameshrajs8140 Місяць тому +54

    Only VICTIM CARD 😂😂😂😂

    • @Hindutavalover
      @Hindutavalover Місяць тому

      Pakistani need to keep copying Saudis names and there dresses like burka and hijab 😂😂😂

  • @karolbagh3793
    @karolbagh3793 Місяць тому +30

    India should have a Policy called Project 95
    In which HINDU demography should be improved to 95% and minority to 5%

    • @MaradonaVsPele
      @MaradonaVsPele Місяць тому +3

      Yessssssss...
      👍👍👍👌👌👌👌👌👌👌

    • @Anonymous-px9wk
      @Anonymous-px9wk Місяць тому

      How will you implement it?
      Force hindu to have more kids?
      Force minorities to have no kids
      How are you going to do that?
      Idiot doesn't even know hindu is not the name of religion
      Religion name in sanatan dharam
      And india doesn't belongs to sanatani
      As much its belongs to bhudhism jainism sikhism bharat is their country they are indic religion born in this great nation

    • @GuzzarAwan
      @GuzzarAwan Місяць тому +6

      Only way to save this great civilisation and Land. The day Moslems in india reached 33% consider it a gone case.

    • @karolbagh3793
      @karolbagh3793 Місяць тому +3

      @@GuzzarAwanHindu Rashtra & Ghar Vapsi ✅✅👍✌️🙏

    • @Anonymous-px9wk
      @Anonymous-px9wk Місяць тому

      @@karolbagh3793 how many ghar wapsi have you done???

  • @rajkumarbargaje9793
    @rajkumarbargaje9793 Місяць тому +7

    The partition of India is still incomplete.
    There are still millions of Muslims in India who have Pakistani mindset. They should go to Pakistan or Bangladesh.

  • @Hindutavalover
    @Hindutavalover Місяць тому +22

    Why mughals came to India? Why no such tajmahal like structure outside India or in any islamic nation

    • @Rajasthani710
      @Rajasthani710 Місяць тому +4

      All the White Marble which was used to build tajmahal was taken from from marble mines of my town Makara, Nagaur.

    • @GuzzarAwan
      @GuzzarAwan Місяць тому +1

      Taj mahal is built on architecture of Persia a other Great civilisation like India. Else these barbarians of central asia didn't know anything except war i'm those days. Today they don't know even that

    • @Hindutavalover
      @Hindutavalover Місяць тому +1

      @@GuzzarAwan tajmahal is not Persian architecture and there is nothing like this qubar in Islam tajmahal have many rooms and places for ancient canons so tajmahal in not makbara it is living places

    • @VinodBandari-ps5yd
      @VinodBandari-ps5yd Місяць тому

      why do people to america ?

    • @Hindutavalover
      @Hindutavalover Місяць тому

      @@VinodBandari-ps5yd also shame on Pakistani for going kaafir nations like uk usa etc beacuse going to kaafir nations is haram in Islam

  • @salilkulkarni830
    @salilkulkarni830 Місяць тому +6

    the sun of rationality has set upon this newly baptizsd maulana hoodbhoy,, RIP ex-physicist dr hoodbhoy.

  • @karolbagh3793
    @karolbagh3793 Місяць тому +9

    Ram Mandir is Hindus Latest Demand, next is UCC, Wakf Board Act, Free Temples and more India grows More of Indian Subcontinent Will fall into Hindu Fold.
    This Train which Started in 2014 is not going to stop before Akhand Hindu Bhartiya Rastra

  • @peacelover2002
    @peacelover2002 Місяць тому +13

    Dr. Pervez Hoodbhoy software updated to Maulana Haji Hoodbhoy!!! Just reading from other authors and referring them in your book to mention about India's history without doing an in-person fact checking shows the level of hate this guy has towards Hindus and India!!!

    • @AmrikKulana
      @AmrikKulana 19 днів тому

      Right 👍❤

    • @VG-bf9cy
      @VG-bf9cy 18 днів тому

      Abhishek Mishra exposed him on Ribaha channel and Maulana got very irritated

  • @harshittiwari7424
    @harshittiwari7424 Місяць тому +9

    I am so happy that Pakistan has these kind of intellectual.

  • @UmeshGupta-sh7nj
    @UmeshGupta-sh7nj Місяць тому +10

    Dr. Hoodbhoy has a point but again coloured from Muslim point of view.

  • @karolbagh3793
    @karolbagh3793 Місяць тому +8

    There is nothing wrong in Break-up of Pakistan into 5 pieces, Bangladesh me bhi tarrakki Pakistan se alag ho kar hi ki thi,
    Agar Aaj Balochistan Pakistan se alag ho jaye toh Apne dam par tarakki kar sakta hai, Sindh Alag ho jaye toh Karachi bhi tarraki apne Dam par kar sakta hai.
    Azaad Kashmir Hindustan ko de diya jaye toh wahan bhi tarakki ho sakti hai,
    Par Punjab ki hukumat ke rehte na Bangladesh tarakki kar paya tha, aur na Pakistan kabhi tarrakki kar payega.
    Thats why Pakistani people should divide Pakistan for their own peace and for the peace of South Asia and whole world

  • @navmeshsingh
    @navmeshsingh Місяць тому +17

    Who read books in Pakistan 😅😂😂

    • @8903hadeed
      @8903hadeed Місяць тому

      We read beef recipes book

    • @pushpendra1996
      @pushpendra1996 Місяць тому +6

      ​@@8903hadeedbahan se bacche paida kaise karte hai, ye bhi read Kiya hai ki nahi.

    • @rakeshbarman3486
      @rakeshbarman3486 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@8903hadeed good for you just eat beef ❤ all your life and beg

    • @Hindutavalover
      @Hindutavalover Місяць тому

      ​@@8903hadeedwe also need pork pig book. Why dirtiest animal pig is holy in Islam 😂

    • @harshittiwari7424
      @harshittiwari7424 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@8903hadeed We also read books on pork recipes. 🤣

  • @vherlekar
    @vherlekar Місяць тому +6

    Is it my imagination or.... I ALWAYS seem to hear far MORE abt "Hindutva" from Pakistanis 👆 than Indians 😁😁 Why??

  • @Cmr_5vifail
    @Cmr_5vifail Місяць тому +5

    12:53 Ikbal was Lal Topi of 18th century

  • @ChefbyMistake
    @ChefbyMistake Місяць тому +6

    Pervez Ameer Ali Hoodbhoy is an Ex-Ismaili Atheist scholar from Pakistan and a distant relative of Jinnah Poonja (Quaid-e-Azam).

  • @nikhilctg
    @nikhilctg Місяць тому +10

    The level of education and enlightenment of the general mass of Pakistan is expressed at time stamp 1:38:15 of this podcast. Only a few people like Dr. Hoodbhoy can make no change to this abysmally low, backward and rotten society and nation. 😢

  • @raamcaash
    @raamcaash 25 днів тому +4

    So does Dr Hoodbhoy disclaim the Ashoka Dynasty ( 250 BCE)and or the Gupta Dynasty ( 450 CE)which was surely before Bin Qasim invades Sindh (712 CE) …. By the maps most of North East frontier were either part of the Gupta or Ashoka dynasty … much before Bin Qasim arrived in the Sub continent .. or for that matter how does he he justify the fact that an invader an Anglo Saxon, is “Sikander-a-Azam” while the ruler at that time “Porus” who defended the homeland is never even acknowledged and lastly what about the Mohenjadaro heritage which was much before …. almost 5000 years back

    • @rmnair90
      @rmnair90 18 днів тому

      "North East" ???
      Alexander was a Macedonian. Macedonian are not Anglo-Saxons. Anglo-Saxons are from N Europe.

    • @raamcaash
      @raamcaash 18 днів тому

      @@rmnair90 West …

  • @nasirmustafa2492
    @nasirmustafa2492 20 днів тому

    Dr. Pervaiz is not only a scientist but also a public intellectual. His services are commendable.

  • @garamiglm2026
    @garamiglm2026 Місяць тому +6

    Please stop Bakwaas about Narendra Modi...He is a statesman, and governs well and deals with Nuisance as well...If Muslims do not know how to behave in a society, expect any good leader to be tough...That does not mean Hate as you guys so freely think..He is more secular than any Muslim in the subcontinent...I expected better from Prof hoodbhoy, who sadly is becoming a a Hinduphobe himself.

    • @sukhan2225
      @sukhan2225 15 днів тому

      Hahaha 😂😂 you may get more scholars like him, a real joker !

  • @karolbagh3793
    @karolbagh3793 Місяць тому +4

    Kashmir is dominated by three foreign intervention popularly known as ATM (Afghan, Türk, Mangol)

  • @harshittiwari7424
    @harshittiwari7424 Місяць тому +4

    10:10 two nation theory was debunked in dhaka in 1971.

  • @ketanchauhan1534
    @ketanchauhan1534 26 днів тому +1

    I feel for pakistani youth if this is the level of public intellectuality of these people and understanding of this region history.
    Lage raho aise hi

  • @DakshaN-iz2nj
    @DakshaN-iz2nj 29 днів тому +2

    Sir: can you deny the fact Nalanda University with 90,000 Books burned by Muslims Bakhityar Khilji. Taxila and Alexandra Library was burned by Muslims...

    • @dollartreeshark6786
      @dollartreeshark6786 23 дні тому

      Yes, he will deny it. And will mock it as well. A Muslim is always an hypocr….

  • @BlackJack-ov4nq
    @BlackJack-ov4nq Місяць тому +3

    Honest and humane point of view of our two countries.
    I see the comments from India, the hate for muslims has become so deep . I am an Indian myself. I used to feel the same discomfort when i first heard different opinions. I was very angry at all these people (chomsky, Tariq ali, arundhati roy etc). I wanted them to be wrong . But as i read about history, i thought how would i feel in early 1900s if i was a minority, Wouldn't i want security and equality for my family after the british left, wouldn't i want to decide for myself if i lived in kashmir. If indians had the right to self determination,then same applies to Kashmir.
    I have since changed my thinking. It has been very difficult and uncomfortable, it is still an ongoing process.
    Recently seeing hindutva inspired indians justifying and cheering Israel's genocide in Palestine, it has broken my heart.
    Dr Hoodbhoy , you are an inspiration for me. I am preparing to be a teacher so that maybe i can help young people resist the hate that I was subjected to.
    Love from India ❤

    • @siddharthkalantri5076
      @siddharthkalantri5076 26 днів тому

      @BlackJack-ov4nq
      just go and be the miniority of pakistan people like you deserve one way pass to that land who have such love towards our enemy

    • @dollartreeshark6786
      @dollartreeshark6786 23 дні тому

      Nehru has explained democratic and secular setup of India will provide the security. Instead they wanted power in the areas where they are majority for Islam, it was’nt about how to secure equality and security where they were minority.

    • @siddharthkalantri5076
      @siddharthkalantri5076 23 дні тому

      @@dollartreeshark6786
      islam ka nam pea jug gaya toa sab sahi .
      pakistan mila tha na kitnie akal hai tum mea pata chal gayi .
      breakup of pakistan is now only grantee of peace in south asia

    • @INSPIREWITH_WORDS
      @INSPIREWITH_WORDS День тому

      Bro, you are too soft as you are living in India. Do you really think parvez pointing out problems in pakistan has solved even 1%....no. you may think hatred for muslims in alot and its wrong, it is not due to influence by some party but the reality of what muslims are doing around the world makes them hate this ideology!
      Yes, people support israel instead of palestine but mainly people hate hamas ideology and palestine who support them! A ter*orist will always remain a ter*orist! It is the muslims who should speak out like an arab who spoke the truth...listen to his video...

  • @utkarshmaru386
    @utkarshmaru386 Місяць тому +32

    1) Sir muslim population have rose by 43% from 9% to 14% in independent india how are they in danger
    2) India waft board is 3rd largest property holder in india
    3) India have more mosques then pakistan
    4) India being a secular country still have muslim personal law still minorities are in danger
    Lastly in Pakistan hindu population declined from 10% to 2% you killed and forcefully converted lacks of Hindus destroyed almost all the temples in Pakistan you don’t have any moral high ground to lecture us

    • @Hindutavalover
      @Hindutavalover Місяць тому +2

      If one glass is half full 🍷 so we can say it both ways half empty or half full if Pakistan for muslims than India not for muslims ✌️

    • @Hindutavalover
      @Hindutavalover Місяць тому

      Muslims in India are illigally Pakistani citizens they are living illigally in India since after taking Pakistan in 1947

    • @Hindutavalover
      @Hindutavalover Місяць тому +3

      Like Pakistan send Afgani to Afghanistan similarly India also need to send 24 crore illigally Pakistani citizens to Pakistan

    • @Hindutavalover
      @Hindutavalover Місяць тому +2

      Mughal word came from Mongolia they look like Chinese 😊 but Pakistani connect themselves with Saudi and turks 😂

    • @rakadus
      @rakadus Місяць тому +1

      Logic does not work west of Wagah border.

  • @RaguRaghupathi
    @RaguRaghupathi Місяць тому +8

    India does not have to worry as long as these "so-called" educated in Pakistan are so deeply entrenched in Islam than the Maulanas themslelves!!!

  • @adshah3581
    @adshah3581 Місяць тому +1

    Wonderfull discussion from Multan . I learned so much this speech . I love perveez hoodbhoy

  • @altafkumail904
    @altafkumail904 25 днів тому

    Enlightened Talks.....Thanks prof Hoodboy ,Zahid Hussain and PIDE...

  • @user-sx4mq6zn9o
    @user-sx4mq6zn9o Місяць тому +1

    Quality discussion. Indepth analysis .Appreciated from India.

  • @karolbagh3793
    @karolbagh3793 Місяць тому +9

    Sadly 😞 No one in Pakistan understand that main reason of conflict between India and Pakistan is their Islamic ideology.
    Why Pakistani intellectuals don't speak the truth
    Dispute between India and Pakistan is not so simple until you, go back to understand fundamental Differences between Hindus Sanatan Dharma and Muslims Islamic ideology, it's a Clash between Two Civilization, not of two nation or International Boundary
    1000 year old battle between A Civilization and Barbarism

    • @11pke
      @11pke Місяць тому

      If they blame the Quran for all their ills, it would be blasphemy under Pak laws and punishment is being beaten to death by ordinary Paks, no need for law enforcement. It is just simple fear for own life.🤣🤣🤣

    • @Site_work_vlog
      @Site_work_vlog Місяць тому

      No one have dare to speak against pak army propaganda

  • @TheAnuAnnabathula
    @TheAnuAnnabathula 15 днів тому +1

    Thank You Sir!

  • @acharyavijay8210
    @acharyavijay8210 17 днів тому

    I had lot respect for Mr. Hoodboy for his temperament. Some of his statments are radical. He said like a typical Pakistani.

  • @satyanarayanamysore1962
    @satyanarayanamysore1962 25 днів тому +1

    Islam is seen as a problem in western and European countries . A person of the calibre of Dr . Pervez Hoodboy should discuss on the problems of Islam which have their origin in their so called holy book . These intellectuals of Pakistan will do well discuss about the problems of Muslims having their origin in their religion .

  • @Soorilee
    @Soorilee 16 днів тому +1

    Why the faces of women who asked questions were not shown on the screen?

  • @hypocrisy_101
    @hypocrisy_101 15 днів тому

    Ahh the tension in the end the top Pakistani intellectuals felt the shiver in their spine for being misconstrued of being blasphemous 😂😂

  • @karolbagh3793
    @karolbagh3793 Місяць тому +13

    Only issue remaining between India-Pakistan is unfinished Agenda of partition, in which minorities of both countries should be transferred to their rightful ideological countries.
    So that long term peace can be achieved between two nuclear armed Nations

    • @northeastchronicles9311
      @northeastchronicles9311 Місяць тому +1

      You and your north indian bihari/up family can easily go to pakistan as the bimaru states are taking India downwards, Bihar, UP, MP should have gone to pakistan , and indias per capita , GDP and HDI could have been much better

    • @Anonymous-px9wk
      @Anonymous-px9wk Місяць тому

      Have some common sense and be practical
      Minorities of both countries cannot be transferred its impossible to move 20-30 crore people
      Stop living in fools paradise

    • @GuzzarAwan
      @GuzzarAwan Місяць тому

      ​@@northeastchronicles9311lol UP bihar is what india is. Its Core of Indian state. Its the area whose history us considered golden period of Indian history be it ancient or medieval era.
      Even mughal and Delhi sultanate had kept this area of royalty.
      Yes today UP bihar r backward than other states , but it won't last much . Its just 70 years since freedom. With teh rise of Indian civilisation again these areas will rise faster tha the rest. UP is already galloping fast. Its not the matter of , will UP bihar rise. Its matter of when . And it seems time has come.
      Anyway if not the state UP bihar than the people of these states already have migrated to regions favored geographically and histoically for modern day economy and playing good role there.
      U may bark on UP bihar and all but everyone knows u can't do sht. They r core of Indian state and civilisation

  • @priyabratapanigrahi4139
    @priyabratapanigrahi4139 Місяць тому +12

    Origin-Not sure/Confused
    Identity- Beggar's.
    Future-Depends on the Amount of Funds collected through Shameless Begging.

    • @zf2000
      @zf2000 Місяць тому

      No one cares about the views of gau mutra drinkers.

    • @Hindutavalover
      @Hindutavalover Місяць тому +2

      Mughal word came from Mongolia they look like Chinese but Pakistani connect themselves with Saudi and turks 😂😂

    • @zf2000
      @zf2000 Місяць тому

      @@Hindutavalover better than connecting with gau mutra drinkers.

    • @Arvindchauhan-qv6gd
      @Arvindchauhan-qv6gd Місяць тому

      ​@@Hindutavalover😂😂😂😂😂

  • @kyakpasaa
    @kyakpasaa 23 дні тому +1

    Pakistani getting it wrong all over again about Hindu lol 😂 … this is what I learnt from professor

  • @iamghani
    @iamghani 25 днів тому +1

    1:27:00 says India can’t take POK, Pakistan is temporary country, we will just wait another 30 years so that Pakistan will break itself.
    Hoodboy mentions that balochis were under occupation, another mentions KPK has insurgents, gilgit is already revolting.
    Pakistan Punjab will just break by itself no need nukes mr hoodboy, it’s just matter of time POK will merge back to India.

  • @KulwantSingh-eo8uz
    @KulwantSingh-eo8uz 18 днів тому

    The way the Pakistani treated their minorities , the way they encoded their history, the way they glorified their Inveders and they justified their hate towards India , compelled secular, liberal and democratic indians to change their philosophy .

  • @TheAnuAnnabathula
    @TheAnuAnnabathula 15 днів тому

    Thank you sir!

  • @johnwisdom651
    @johnwisdom651 Місяць тому

    Prof Hoodbhoy & team.. Please do comparative economic analysis of Pakistan & Bangladesh.

  • @bashirahmad9166
    @bashirahmad9166 Місяць тому +1

    Pide is growing

  • @muneerkaleri9518
    @muneerkaleri9518 Місяць тому +2

    The book should be also in native languages too...

  • @vherlekar
    @vherlekar Місяць тому +2

    "Proper summary" of Pakistanis (and indeed the entire discussion!) - please watch ONLY the last few minutes Q&A - just hope there's no "Qatl" later! 😁

  • @achyutkarve
    @achyutkarve 17 днів тому

    Why does Hoodboy not talk about the partition of Bengal in 1905?

  • @karolbagh3793
    @karolbagh3793 Місяць тому +4

    Do not believe what they tell you, because there is only one Islam, what Prophet Muhammad Said and what Prophet Muhammad Did in his life.
    There is no other version of Islam, Every thing else is to deceive you.

    • @rohitghildiyal8643
      @rohitghildiyal8643 Місяць тому

      You mean, rape, genocides, paedophilia, forceful conversions, sex slavery, orgies, loot, torture and lies.

  • @user-uz9ud9rc4d
    @user-uz9ud9rc4d Місяць тому

    Very enlightening

  • @kreonakrish
    @kreonakrish 16 днів тому

    Can you give examples of the Nations that you mentioned have no Ideology and are Successful?

  • @bobysharma370
    @bobysharma370 Місяць тому

    Great comedy and great education 😄😄😄😄😄 please continue

  • @mr___swag925
    @mr___swag925 Місяць тому +7

    Topic thi Pakistani ki identity but talk horehihe India ki bareme 😂😂😂😂
    Tum mantenehihe ki tum pehele Indian the to India ke bareme kyu batt horehihe. Full isi propaganda video against India 🖕😡🖕😡

  • @AB2312
    @AB2312 25 днів тому

    As he grows older, HB becomes more obscurantist

  • @AshwaniKumar-mz2ip
    @AshwaniKumar-mz2ip Місяць тому +4

    people of pakistan are now suffering from modi phobia

  • @RAJESHKUMAR-yl3fz
    @RAJESHKUMAR-yl3fz 10 днів тому

    We are thankful to British that they removed cancer in pre 1 st stage !!!!

  • @AMEERHAMZA-gr2jj
    @AMEERHAMZA-gr2jj Місяць тому

    Very good discussion

  • @guruprasad6757
    @guruprasad6757 17 днів тому

    The highlighter" I look back how I was fooled". If such a genious can be fooled by this deeni churan, literally any one can be fooled.

  • @subramanianramajayam2467
    @subramanianramajayam2467 15 днів тому

    Dr Hoodbuoy may be correct in his reaon for the origin of the 2-nation theory since even today Pakistan is years behind secular India in education and technology!

  • @utubetruthteller
    @utubetruthteller 23 дні тому

    last 1 minute of the video sums up Pakistani society 😅😊

  • @rameshiyer3256
    @rameshiyer3256 Місяць тому +1

    This one frame and session is the best synopsis of what is wrong with the education system of Pakistanis and their DNA, both past and present. That too when the only truth going forward is that the political map of Pakistan is certainly going to be redrawn.

  • @user-zp9cg9lo9s
    @user-zp9cg9lo9s Місяць тому +1

    Physics scientist knows that there is no thing such as religion.....

  • @anujay81
    @anujay81 Місяць тому

    Algeria doesn't welcome tourists and getting tourist visa is very difficult. However, business visa is easily granted.
    As per one Indian travel vloger, recently visiting the country.

  • @ameyaghate7859
    @ameyaghate7859 Місяць тому +1

    The future of Bhikharistan is in the dustbin of history.

  • @rebasingh258
    @rebasingh258 15 днів тому

    In 1947 Pakistan had 20.5% Sikhs and Hindus. Today less than 1% are Sikhs and Hindus.
    India had less than 10% Muslims. Now India has almost 15% Muslims. This increase is due to very hight birth rate of Muslims and influx of Muslim refugees from Bangladesh and Myanmar.
    Pakistan should steps to Invite Indian Muslims to come and settle in Pakistan. Pakistan should welcome all Muslims of India and let them settle in Pakistan.

  • @Takecare55
    @Takecare55 Місяць тому +1

    1:38:00 damaged beyond repair. Goodluck for upcoming bad days ahead. 👍👍

  • @chakradharmahapatra1958
    @chakradharmahapatra1958 Місяць тому

    OMG, how can the Q&A session be so chaotic?? Please try to make it graceful. Sorry to say, the way PIDE Head is asking audience to ask questions is simply objectionable.
    The elephant in the room in Pakistan is the fight between Rationality and Islamic Identity, and the later is winning. Btw, most of the India's 'Muslim Problem' is also the same, ie. sacrificing Modernity/Identity to preserve & protect Islamic Identity. And as Prof Hoddbhoy said, same happened during Macaulay's efforts to transform Indian education.

  • @achyutkarve
    @achyutkarve 17 днів тому

    Hoodboy needs to answer why the British cozied to Jinnah and Babasaheb Ambedkar. Babasaheb Ambedkar was possibly more politically mature than Jinnah.. After independence of India he became the Chairperson of the Constitution Drafting Committee and bestowed all the facilities on to the people he thought he represented. However on the otherhand Jinnah let down the people whom he thought he represented.

  • @amediarts
    @amediarts Місяць тому

    He has a Secular view to explain the history of Pakistan 👍

    • @crazyboy19934
      @crazyboy19934 21 день тому

      What is the secular view in this video 📷 those are communal view

  • @satishvennelakanti
    @satishvennelakanti 20 днів тому

    This is what happened when a scientist starts a subjective monologue

  • @djawalikar2006
    @djawalikar2006 14 днів тому

    After watching the last few ( 1-2) minutes i cant imagine what kind of frustation the learned people in this gathering must be experiencing ??? Such a terrible fear exists in Pakistan and i was wonderstruck to listen to respected Dr Hoodbhoy time and again saying about ' Hindutva' while he totally ignores the fact that while the religion he follows is in reality exclusive and the hindutva he talks about is totally inclusive.

  • @agriculture410
    @agriculture410 Місяць тому +1

    Madarsa colour combination is your book as per your reference

  • @ranand089
    @ranand089 Місяць тому +1

    such a shame, a self claimed physicist is so much in confirmation BIAS

  • @blogsterstudio4316
    @blogsterstudio4316 Місяць тому +2

    Mr. Hudbhai ko bas thoda sa hi hello aur salaam thoko.....
    Bhaisaab apni bakwaas shuru kar dete hai....
    Bas thoda sa cross kardo facts ke saath toh baat badal dete hai tolerate nahi kar paate hai.... Ye unke har lecture me dekha hai....
    Chota muh badi baat lekin
    Inki debate karne ki sach me aukaat nahi hai honestly.....

  • @obaidullahmirwani2923
    @obaidullahmirwani2923 Місяць тому +1

    Correction of history and elimination of elitism is panacea for our chronic issues

  • @debkumarmukherjee7569
    @debkumarmukherjee7569 29 днів тому +2

    How far its true that Zinna who had Pakistan for Muslims because they cant live with Hindus, created bloody partition CAN NEVER BE CALLED A SECULAR INDIVIDUAL !!??

  • @aaaaanuj1
    @aaaaanuj1 Місяць тому +1

    Maulana Hoodbhoy don't you think except for 1 minority in India , all other minorities are prosperous.. Has it ever crossed your mind that there could be something wrong with them.. Somehow they are also the most radicalized.. This pattern repeats world over... Maybe it is time for some self thinking.

  • @Cmr_5vifail
    @Cmr_5vifail Місяць тому

    Is there a word for secular in Arabic?

  • @amit-tt8sz
    @amit-tt8sz Місяць тому

    After salman taseer it became Tense

  • @bapatvishwas5302
    @bapatvishwas5302 29 днів тому

    There is one fault of Pakistani electronic media to give wide publicity with honour for adultary and poligomy

  • @khalifmann
    @khalifmann 19 днів тому

    Pak identity
    1. People who live within the boundaries of the territorial land.
    Pak origin
    1. Converted Indian hindus. If you are of Arab or Turk or any other origin, you have no claim on the land carved out of India.
    How you converted
    1. Make up a story because the recorded history is horrifying and gruesome.
    Future
    1. Whatever you make out of it.

  • @achyutkarve
    @achyutkarve 17 днів тому

    Lokmanya Tilak was the first to give impetus to the Freedom movement. Two people with opposite agendas came on the scene after him with his extremists ideology 1) Jinnah and 2) Savarkar promoting religious feelings. With the coming of Gandhi the INC became a group which followed a policy of compromise. By 1947 Jinnah successfully carved out Pakistan. However Sarvarkar was unsuccessful in swaying the majority of the masses as a result INC with its known policy of compromise carried India through our Independence till recently. The ideology of the BJP is no different from that of Savarkar.
    It is no use crying over spilt milk.
    At the sametime Pakistan needs to reflect on its extremist doctrainaire. Never having found any middle ground whith the help of which they would have prospered they are reeling under poverty, social distress and division.

  • @AshokGupta-oq6hs
    @AshokGupta-oq6hs 18 днів тому

    Sirs,the 2 nation theory is not a new concept in the context of india's partition.
    Its roots are 1400 year old.
    Recall Dar ul Islam and
    Dar ul harb. 2 nation theory is the rehash of this 1400 year old thesis.

  • @ashfaqakbar4614
    @ashfaqakbar4614 Місяць тому +3

    Be zabaan log hain.apni boli koi nahi.

    • @Hindutavalover
      @Hindutavalover Місяць тому

      Indian muslims and Pakistani muslims copy Saudi names and there dresses like burka and hijab some of them they copy Saudi names

  • @Tatugusar1111
    @Tatugusar1111 Місяць тому +3

    India ka development ko dek k fuckistan mai soch-vichar ka bagh-daur chal raha hai.😂

  • @santoshroat7955
    @santoshroat7955 Місяць тому

    ❤❤❤

  • @rebasingh258
    @rebasingh258 8 днів тому

    ​@140usman why are Shia Muslim and Sunni Muslims at war with each other. Why are Shias and Sunnis both at war with Ahmadiyas.

  • @avinashkumar9162
    @avinashkumar9162 Місяць тому +1

    I came for 1:38:00 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣