Calli's right. Look at Ame's legacy that she's leaving behind, changing the VTuber industry forever. Myth Forever isn't just a statement about them, it's their impact on the world being felt forever. And we may miss the ole mom ground pounder, but every time we watch any EN Vtuber, we're watching her mark on history.
I suspect that Ame's going to be working on new assets for the other girls to use for their streams and developing her studio for Cover to use in the future. It's something she has a clear passion for. We'll see Ame's fingerprints everywhere for a long time to come.
"And though these winds may scatter us We'll keep this promise When the moment's finally right We'll always find a way to reunite" -ReUnion by Hololive English Myth
They have gone through hell together being the first HoloEN, through scuff, through distance, through the pandemic. Nothin can rob them of that shared experience, and that's why, even if they go their separate ways, they're Myth Forever.
I hope Calli’s ready for every future Myth collab stream to be full of people going “it’s just not the same without Ame” the way they do with Promise and Sana or JP Gen 3 and Rushia, to the point where Noel had to tell them to stop because it was hurtful to the remaining members as if implying their efforts are less meaningful without her.
I hope its not the case. And funny enough, its rare when they are all together. Myth has always been a weird case for everything. (In a positive way) They are all usually away from collabs due to time difference. They are very strong individually with different things to offer for our entertainment. Myth will be forever one in a million
Honestly if people got that from people saying that things aren't the same without someone who graduated I think that's speaking to their own personal issues than the fans. Anyone saying that aren't implying anything like that their efforts are meaningless without someone. It's just that they miss the effort of a specific individual. Are you sure it wasn't a Japanese mistranslation or closest English equivalent? Because I'd like to think people that started to feel that way actually had a reason to feel that way or just wanted to stop being reminded that one of their members are missing because it made them sad themselves, and weren't just being oversensitive to people complaining about the pain of a fresh wound in their heart.
And don't forget the ones who gets the worst case of what you say, Tempus, and HoloStars EN in general People straight up call them irrelevant now that Magni and Vesper are gone, the 2 most liked members are no more and suddenly, the public tought that HoloStars EN doesn't matter anymore, they either ignore them or even asks for a disband, thinking that the boys are nothing without the funny alchemist and the crazy grandpa
@@burnttoast.2017 I mean, I don’t speak Japanese so I can’t really vouch for the accuracy of the translation. I watched a clip where Noel was talking about it is all. And even if it is a personal issue, her feelings about it are still valid and people should respect that.
“The concept of death is not just about the end, but also about change, about life, about a pivotal moment that may or may not mark a new starting point.”
I get the timing being weird, but Myth4Ever doesn't mean that you guys will always be working as Myth, but that you guys will always be Myth. Even with one gone Myth will always be 5 and you 5 will always be Myth4Ever.
Now that Ame finished her chatting stream she made clear there is a lot stuff coming where she is going to participate has for why not a hiatus instead, well Ame have something to do something big that she feels a hiatus is not right, and lastly there is a small chance to comeback, but for now nothing is clear ,since she is the first "affiliated" vtuber to cover and both party are taking this has a learning experience. Gotta love the AmeWay
@@tylerprince6371 Ame: *Starts a new vtuber company and signs Mel and Aqua* Aqua: "So this is where the big boys play, huh? Look at the adjective: 'play!'."
I think is more simple, she is just done, when you have done everything is natural to try new things Vtubing... streaming in general is fun but it can get repetitive, a lot of youtubers in the lasts months leave youtube cause they have done everything, they want to try something different, maybe she wants to do something big, or maybe she just wants to do something small but we wont be there, its her life beyond Amelia Watson and thats ok, just like iron man, she can rest now
This screams: She got an opportunity (job offer/position or an opportunity) for something she is passionate about and wants to pursue that. Her reasoning for the graduation is because she knows she can't juggle both and give 100% to both. All I can say is I hope she shines as bright doing it. I know she'll succeed and she'll do amazing things.
Even if all of Myth were to graduate tomorrow, it would still be Myth4Ever because of how they pioneered VTubing to overseas fans. They’re the bedrock the monolith that now is Hololive_EN rests upon - and nothing will ever change that.
Thinking back, what stings a little more about this is days prior to Ame's announcement Cali was talking about her new dream of having everyone perform at the Los Vegas sphere. She said that already knowing full well what was to come and I bet that was hard for her. That being said, how epic would it be if they do eventually reach the sphere and in that performance Ame makes a surprise guest appearance. Well no matter what happens, this humble investigator will continue to support Ame, myth and hololive, no matter their journey takes them, or what form they take in the future. Stay strong and carry on, that's the Ame way.
Myth will always be Myth. As long as we have the vods, the merch, the memories; Myth will endure forever. That said, it hits different watching Amelia during that song knowing what we know now.
I like how Calli’s take was so neutral and professional, while Kiara’s was just based and unfiltered lmfaooo Both very valid approaches with reasons that I can agree with, the duality is just pretty funny
Kiara has a different perspective that more aligns to the fans. Since she is also a teamate, it does look misleading since your oshi won't be there. HoloMyth consist of 5 members. Lorewise, Ame brings them all together. They are myths that are to be inspected. So having the very reason why they are called HoloMyth, be absent, is wierd. This is why HoloCouncil became HoloPromise because the group title doesnt match anymore. So Myth4Ever do be misleading
I still cant believe I have been able to witness the start and stop(?) of the very first VTuber that I have watched. Its kind of insane, actually, to think about it.
The day Ame debuted, I remember it most of all. I caught Calli’s, Gura’s, and Ame’s debut, but it was really only Ame that I thought “yeah I can imagine me watching her streams”. I was standing in a great clips parking lot, and my brother spotted me watching it over my shoulder. It’s a little different than any other graduation I’ve seen. I wish it wasn’t Ame to go but out of all of Myth imo it makes the most sense, which is how I’ve been coping. I digress. This is such an odd experience, the graduation of my “oshi” (I really don’t like using that word but it’s fairly true imo) 🥲
Fuk man. I've always lived under the idea that they hurt more when one of their own leave. No matter how bad i feel, I know that their pain is something I don't think I can ever truly understand. T^T I miss the Beeg Lady, and I kerp her in my heart, but Council/Promise... They're like old war buddies. Rolled out with a purpose alongside people they never really knew and forged into sibblings. The only difference is that (assuming it's not against a rule to talk to them after, outside of work) they can still keep in contact. Especially in this age of information and parasocial fans who miss their favorite vtubers. All of us are only human at the end of the day.
It's so silly that some people are really trying to read into it like that. I'm sad too man, but Myth will always be Calli, Kiara, Gura, Ina and Ame. Even when one of them leaves - even once ALL of them leave, Hololive EN Myth will be the five of them.
You captured the message Calli wanted to send out really well LC, Myth will always be 5, Forever ❤🧡💛💙💜. Myth accomplished so much and that will never change. Also mad respect for that Just Shapes & Beats Reference.
the idea of myth4ever is the same as when people say council will always be 6, the missing member may not be there physically but we know theyre there in spirit and may even be in the crowd along with us, they're not dead just not streaming but we can keep the good times they brought us with us and it should bring comfort that they still talk to each other outside the streams
I find if funny that it could be said as Myth Four Ever... poor Ame being the fifth wheel. Just like the word plan and the dialog animation in this clip. Nice job. (the "beyond" flying off the frame made me LOL)
Myth 4 Ever doesn't mean "Myth will never stop streaming ever". Myth 4 Ever means "Myth will be remembered forever, even if some of them move on from streaming"
she is ending streaming activities but she is still going to be around she probably wants to focus less on the "channel" and more the hololive as the other entertainment they provide.
I don't think this song was written about an immediate someone leaving, but just the fact that idols do eventually graduate and move on a different stage. Like Gura singing "you're gunna miss me when I'm gone" its emotional because there is a message there, someday, and I think that's why end of a life was so emotional and beautiful in the anniversary concert
great editing, I had to skip this stream as it was far past my bedtime. appreciate the clip! I'm sure we only saw the iceberg of people in chat who were positive and melancholy, but there's ALWAYS the vocal minority who feel the need to lash out or create false narratives like 'this vtuber has beef with this other vtuber so their song is singling them out' or 'they obviously were referring to this person'. If not for drama, where would the world be?
Rather than hinting at the people that are going to leave, it makes more sense to think Last Days is about the people that had already left. This year alone, hololive lost 4 members, and we can't even imagine what else could be happening to Calli's life outside work.
Oh wow, I didn't even realize Ame was graduating, it's good to hear the graduation is mutual and I'm excited for her future. I've definitely never thought any streamer, Hololive or otherwise is going to stream forever. I don't think most people want to do any job forever. Life is too short, even for immortal mythological anime girls, and sometimes new jobs and opportunities pop up that require more of your attention and you need to step down from previous obligations to be able to follow that new path. It doesn't mean you didn't enjoy the path you were on, it doesn't mean you didn't enjoy the company of your companions on that path, it only means a new path has opened. Those old friends will still be friends, that old path will still be tread later by others who wish to walk it, but this new path and adventure awaits.
Sure, you can say that Myth will "always be Myth," but let’s be honest-no one was making that claim during the fourth anniversary. We’ve seen similar phrasing with "Council will always be Council", even after becoming Promise, but it’s hard to ignore the timing here. Ame could have announced her graduation earlier, allowing the theme to be something like, "We will always be Myth, no matter what happens." But that’s not what fans took from it. The message during the anniversary felt like a statement of intent-that Myth wasn’t going anywhere anytime soon. Many, including Kiara, felt let down because the theme felt deceptive in hindsight. It’s not that Myth ceases to exist, but the way it was presented made it seem like there was no reason to worry. In that context, perhaps more sensitivity could have been shown when choosing the theme.
A graduation is full on cessation of activities under the name. Concluding streaming activities means that she is no longer streaming, but can be part of projects or collaborations. Basically, she'll be around and you'll still see her every now and then.
@@timepatroltrunks8276 Ame (and other members) have already said this is not true. She's not going to work for Cover full time in any capacity anymore.
Let's hope this experiment woth Ame is a success causing a somewhat still affiliated to Hololive even if they stop activities they can still appear occasionally like music artists in labels. They might not be Taylor Swift but their characters are real. Idol industry needs to change if they are aiming.for international appeal. Graduations are just crippling everything from the talents, corp and community. Rather have them in royalties, so the merch still sells and the fans still can appreciate the girls specially if they're having talent heavy card games and such. Keep them in touch and invite them on special occasions.
so as i was listening to this as Cali was talking about last days an emergency vehicle went by and i did check to see if that was part of the video or not but it just seems like mere coincidence that it happened like that XD
Should have been Myth5ever then. Funny internet use of 5ever has been a thing for a while theres five of them so it makes sense since they are internet celebs initially, so having the 4ever and ame leaving ish connects those dots
Those people should get off the internet for a while and touch grass. No sane person looks at 4ever and says it was a secret message. "4" "four" "for" makes perfect sense in the conversion.
As long as Ame is still there, I don't feel as sad. True sadness is her disappearing forever. But she's working in the background and basically becoming management and showing up for events. Like how that one hololive clips animator BluezKaito includes Sana in all his videos, if you watch it consistently, it's like she's still there. As long as Amelia doesn't fully fade away into obscurity and has a presence. That's all that matters. She doesn't need to stream, she can upload prerecorded videos and people would still love her. Just like how Jontron uploads like once a year and still has a massive fan base.
She's not working in the background and she's not joining management. This has been clarified again by Ina. Just showing up for special events sometimes 👍 Ame also clarified in the comments that if someone at holo asks her for tech help ofc she'll reply, but that is completely different from her usual role of driving holo projects forward.
Because it was stupid to keep Irys as her own solo thing considering how much she did with Council and Cluncil had just lost a member. It wouldn’t make sense for Myth to rebrand. Especially when the 4 left are the actual Myths in the lore
IMO they almost certainly did it because for IP purposes, this way Council will always be 5, CouncilRyS can always be 6, and Promise refers to specifically IRyS, Fauna, Kronii, Mumei, Bae. (Merchandise legal implications?) We might see Calli, Kiara, Ina, and Gura rebrand (and the other "partial" gens), we might not. But for now because of Ame's affiliate status, Myth doesn't need to as much as Council did.
appreciate what we have now but prepare your mind and heart for it to end because everything does eventually end. One day all the EN people you love will stop streaming, maybe even Hololive itself will end in the future. That's just reality.
I'm not one of those unhinged people ranting and raving about this sort of thing, and I wish Ame the best in the future. But... It does feel like the TIMING of her going right after the anniversary with included song about Myth Forever was a little... I dunno. Tone deaf maybe? I think the better thing to do would've been to have Amelia Graduate well in advance of the anniversary, then have her come back for it to sing and dance and hang out with Myth. That way "Myth Forever" would've felt more like a promise for the future and already illustrating that they mean it. That even though Ame isn't streaming anymore, she isn't "gone". The way they did it with them saying "Myth Forever" then Amelia immediately retiring afterwards feels very... Odd to say the least. So I understand why some folks would have an issue with that. But i'm sure when she comes back for something in the future, it'll help alleviate those sorts of concerns.
Well my thought is, if you guys are actually gonna stay friends and stay working together, yeah, then it's not cap. I only dislike it when content creators and stuff really do break ties with someone (or that person up and LEAVES) and everyone for the sake of the fans feelings keeps up the façade that they're all together. But if Ame is still floating around up there in space with Sana than I don't mind keeping it 4Ever5!
I can get where the people upset about Myth Forever are coming from after how Council, Project Hope, and Promise was handled, but between Ame not being gone forever and there not being anything they can roll into Myth to rebrand it, I think we should focus on supporting our 5 pioneers as best we can rather than being butthurt over effectively nothing.
I desperately hope people will get there acts together after Ame is gone. I couldn't handle it if people start doing what they still do with Sana. Always trying to forcefully inject her in everything instead of learning to let go. I worry that the fact that Ame may actually be present for future stuff means that people will forever bother the girls about if she'll be in any project that comes up. Over the years the chats and comments have been filling with annoying people that have no manners. Hell there's a clipper that makes fun 3D animations for every clip, but I hate watching them because he puts Sana in every single one like she was there. I really like Justice and with how hard Cover is investing in EN I like to imagine that the future is bright. But I just don't know. I guess only time will tell.
Myth forever is such a joke statement to make when Gura is not even streaming on normal days except for anniversary and the merch related streams, Ina is gone since 2021, even Calli stops streaming regularly since 2 years ago. Kiara has been the only person who puts in effort to stream. Everyone else is busy doing literally nothing.
I can see what you mean about Gura, but after checking just now, Calli doesn't seem stream rarely, and Ina especially seems to still stream a lot, in fact almost every 2-3 days for the past couple months. So... what are you on about?
@@ogeyrat a stream is a stream. Doesn't matter what it is. Furthermore, for Ina'nis, her drawing skills have been one of her main appeals from the very start.
@@ogeyrat also, no one asked your opinion either yet you posted the initial comment. Or what, you expected your comment to stand as an unquestioned monument? Don't be ridiculous. You post a comment, expect dissidence. Your ow importance means absolutely nothing merely for posting the original comment.
This is all so needlessly dramatic. She didn’t even graduate. She said she’ll still be stopping by from time to time. She might even resume streaming in the future. Why is everybody treating this like a funeral?
I love Calli and Myth, but I have to respectfully disagree. To me at least, Myth is done. 80% of a thing is not the same as the thing itself. I hope the remaining members go on for many more fun and successful years, but it won't be as Myth. That's over.
This is kind of Kiara's feeling, too - even if Myth is still doing group activities, its not going to be the same for Kiara. They are both valid opinions/feelings but I side with Kiara. Its not going to be the same. Myth as we know them are pretty much done. Its up to them how they are going to move forward. Kind of like Promise with Sana. They have move forward even if its not the same.
That myth collab was so sad but very good for a lot of us, but it was freaky for myself, just thinking "what input can i even say besides o7's and well wishes just" then typing 'myth4ever' into chat, remembering that phrase and thinking it'd go on by and be gone but no, 1 minute later chat just exploding using it, just made me go: this community the HLen girls have made, fostered and brought to fruition, truly is amazing! From how we can all become connected over a common passion we love and for the people who make this community the type it is, how we can think so similarly and be positively unreal when we REALLY want to be! (which should be all the time when it comes to this stuff but you can always have toxics, and there was none for that last collab though!) and i was sad but loved that stream, it really broke the whole illusion and showed us the genuine people behind those models really do have each others backs! i really hope Ame all the best on her adventures in the future and looking forward to seeing where and when we may see her next! (whenever that time comes) Myth4Ever, never meant only 4, but that myth will be together '4ever', the 4 and (when)ever ame may appear again!
![Gura's heartfelt confession to Ame brought tears to the Chat [Hololive EN]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/iEUbocu6OBI/mqdefault.jpg)
You can hear her sadness
She’s probably anticipating people constantly asking her about Ame in unrelated streams.
Myth4ever means no mater where they go in the years to come, they will always be myth, they will always be legend
@stellarstar6553I think you might just be reading into it a bit much.4ever has been shorthand for forever for a long time
@stellarstar6553 Nah, the 4 is just to indicate that it's myth's 4th anniversary. Any other interpretation is people just stretching
Ame is leaving
Myth is dead
Move on
the number 4 in 4ever stand for 4 years or there's only 4 members left
@@TwiztedSmoke NO! Myth still stands tall! Ame will always be a member of Myth, even if she concludes her channels activities.
You killed me with the anniversary clips man.
Calli is right though. Amelia concluding her activities doesn't diminish what Myth4Ever stands for.
you mean Myth5Ever
Calli's right. Look at Ame's legacy that she's leaving behind, changing the VTuber industry forever. Myth Forever isn't just a statement about them, it's their impact on the world being felt forever. And we may miss the ole mom ground pounder, but every time we watch any EN Vtuber, we're watching her mark on history.
I suspect that Ame's going to be working on new assets for the other girls to use for their streams and developing her studio for Cover to use in the future. It's something she has a clear passion for. We'll see Ame's fingerprints everywhere for a long time to come.
"And though these winds may scatter us
We'll keep this promise
When the moment's finally right
We'll always find a way to reunite"
-ReUnion by Hololive English Myth
They have gone through hell together being the first HoloEN, through scuff, through distance, through the pandemic. Nothin can rob them of that shared experience, and that's why, even if they go their separate ways, they're Myth Forever.
lmao that golden girls edit
I needed that laugh, given the circumstances. thank you
honestly, its a great edit and it puts the absurdity of idol culture into perspective
The levity in this video was just right for a sad time.
I hope Calli’s ready for every future Myth collab stream to be full of people going “it’s just not the same without Ame” the way they do with Promise and Sana or JP Gen 3 and Rushia, to the point where Noel had to tell them to stop because it was hurtful to the remaining members as if implying their efforts are less meaningful without her.
I hope its not the case. And funny enough, its rare when they are all together. Myth has always been a weird case for everything. (In a positive way) They are all usually away from collabs due to time difference. They are very strong individually with different things to offer for our entertainment.
Myth will be forever one in a million
@@bruchett4799 they're already a legend. And one thing i know about legend is...
Legend never di3s
Honestly if people got that from people saying that things aren't the same without someone who graduated I think that's speaking to their own personal issues than the fans. Anyone saying that aren't implying anything like that their efforts are meaningless without someone. It's just that they miss the effort of a specific individual.
Are you sure it wasn't a Japanese mistranslation or closest English equivalent? Because I'd like to think people that started to feel that way actually had a reason to feel that way or just wanted to stop being reminded that one of their members are missing because it made them sad themselves, and weren't just being oversensitive to people complaining about the pain of a fresh wound in their heart.
And don't forget the ones who gets the worst case of what you say, Tempus, and HoloStars EN in general
People straight up call them irrelevant now that Magni and Vesper are gone, the 2 most liked members are no more and suddenly, the public tought that HoloStars EN doesn't matter anymore, they either ignore them or even asks for a disband, thinking that the boys are nothing without the funny alchemist and the crazy grandpa
@@burnttoast.2017 I mean, I don’t speak Japanese so I can’t really vouch for the accuracy of the translation. I watched a clip where Noel was talking about it is all. And even if it is a personal issue, her feelings about it are still valid and people should respect that.
Ame will be the voice in the background that we'll be happy to hear
but ame muted.....
“The concept of death is not just about the end, but also about change, about life, about a pivotal moment that may or may not mark a new starting point.”
I get the timing being weird, but Myth4Ever doesn't mean that you guys will always be working as Myth, but that you guys will always be Myth. Even with one gone Myth will always be 5 and you 5 will always be Myth4Ever.
Yeah, to me this is Myth4Ever, the legacy they left, not who is currently active in the group.
Now that Ame finished her chatting stream she made clear there is a lot stuff coming where she is going to participate has for why not a hiatus instead, well Ame have something to do something big that she feels a hiatus is not right, and lastly there is a small chance to comeback, but for now nothing is clear ,since she is the first "affiliated" vtuber to cover and both party are taking this has a learning experience.
Gotta love the AmeWay
As some other people has mentioned she is going the WWE legends route
Ame's becoming a wrestler? Sick!
@@tylerprince6371
Ame: *Starts a new vtuber company and signs Mel and Aqua*
Aqua: "So this is where the big boys play, huh? Look at the adjective: 'play!'."
I think is more simple, she is just done, when you have done everything is natural to try new things
Vtubing... streaming in general is fun but it can get repetitive, a lot of youtubers in the lasts months leave youtube cause they have done everything, they want to try something different, maybe she wants to do something big, or maybe she just wants to do something small but we wont be there, its her life beyond Amelia Watson and thats ok, just like iron man, she can rest now
This screams: She got an opportunity (job offer/position or an opportunity) for something she is passionate about and wants to pursue that. Her reasoning for the graduation is because she knows she can't juggle both and give 100% to both. All I can say is I hope she shines as bright doing it. I know she'll succeed and she'll do amazing things.
Even if all of Myth were to graduate tomorrow, it would still be Myth4Ever because of how they pioneered VTubing to overseas fans. They’re the bedrock the monolith that now is Hololive_EN rests upon - and nothing will ever change that.
Remember, kid, there's heroes and there's myths. Heroes get remembered, but Myth never dies.
"I'm no years old"
Does that mean the Oozora Police are going to arrest me for looking at her lewds?
Thinking back, what stings a little more about this is days prior to Ame's announcement Cali was talking about her new dream of having everyone perform at the Los Vegas sphere. She said that already knowing full well what was to come and I bet that was hard for her.
That being said, how epic would it be if they do eventually reach the sphere and in that performance Ame makes a surprise guest appearance.
Well no matter what happens, this humble investigator will continue to support Ame, myth and hololive, no matter their journey takes them, or what form they take in the future. Stay strong and carry on, that's the Ame way.
Using end of a life is cheating 😢
Even if all of them stop streaming I will still love Myth.
They have brought so much happiness over the last four years and that won't go away.
I watched that stream, and it was really wholesome to hear Calli talk about this. it'll always be myth5ever for matter what happens o7
Myth will always be Myth. As long as we have the vods, the merch, the memories; Myth will endure forever.
That said, it hits different watching Amelia during that song knowing what we know now.
now every time i see smol myth i cry so much
Kiara was mildly against the myth4ever hashtag. For her own (valid) reasons. Still kind of is.
oof what are her reasons? is it because it's poorly timed?
@@BaconNuke partially, I think, because she thought it was misleading. And for her its really not going to be the same without all them.
I like how Calli’s take was so neutral and professional, while Kiara’s was just based and unfiltered lmfaooo
Both very valid approaches with reasons that I can agree with, the duality is just pretty funny
I can totally see both of their points
Kiara has a different perspective that more aligns to the fans. Since she is also a teamate, it does look misleading since your oshi won't be there. HoloMyth consist of 5 members. Lorewise, Ame brings them all together. They are myths that are to be inspected. So having the very reason why they are called HoloMyth, be absent, is wierd.
This is why HoloCouncil became HoloPromise because the group title doesnt match anymore.
So Myth4Ever do be misleading
I still cant believe I have been able to witness the start and stop(?) of the very first VTuber that I have watched. Its kind of insane, actually, to think about it.
The day Ame debuted, I remember it most of all. I caught Calli’s, Gura’s, and Ame’s debut, but it was really only Ame that I thought “yeah I can imagine me watching her streams”. I was standing in a great clips parking lot, and my brother spotted me watching it over my shoulder. It’s a little different than any other graduation I’ve seen. I wish it wasn’t Ame to go but out of all of Myth imo it makes the most sense, which is how I’ve been coping. I digress. This is such an odd experience, the graduation of my “oshi” (I really don’t like using that word but it’s fairly true imo) 🥲
Myth4Ever wasn't for you, it was for them.
tbf there prolly is an alternate universe where myth is 105 and still streaming cuz of statistical probability-
that's a nice touch at the end of the video. a game i liked for a while.
which game?
@@Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarvesaccording to Google Lens it's Just Shapes & Beats
@@Alberich_Prince_of_Dwarves Just Shapes And Beats
@@TheKenchanx thanks!
what i wouldnt do to be in the same bubble albert is in
Myth Forever in my heart.
What a great thing i get to witnessed.
Ame will become the Sana for Myth
Gone but forever etched
Fuk man.
I've always lived under the idea that they hurt more when one of their own leave.
No matter how bad i feel, I know that their pain is something I don't think I can ever truly understand.
T^T I miss the Beeg Lady, and I kerp her in my heart, but Council/Promise...
They're like old war buddies. Rolled out with a purpose alongside people they never really knew and forged into sibblings.
The only difference is that (assuming it's not against a rule to talk to them after, outside of work) they can still keep in contact.
Especially in this age of information and parasocial fans who miss their favorite vtubers.
All of us are only human at the end of the day.
Myth changed things. They've done incredibly.
It's so silly that some people are really trying to read into it like that. I'm sad too man, but Myth will always be Calli, Kiara, Gura, Ina and Ame. Even when one of them leaves - even once ALL of them leave, Hololive EN Myth will be the five of them.
You captured the message Calli wanted to send out really well LC, Myth will always be 5, Forever ❤🧡💛💙💜. Myth accomplished so much and that will never change. Also mad respect for that Just Shapes & Beats Reference.
To me is the meaning of the generation. And I am all for it. Ame will always be Myth. Just BEElieve it.
the idea of myth4ever is the same as when people say council will always be 6, the missing member may not be there physically but we know theyre there in spirit and may even be in the crowd along with us, they're not dead just not streaming but we can keep the good times they brought us with us and it should bring comfort that they still talk to each other outside the streams
I find if funny that it could be said as Myth Four Ever... poor Ame being the fifth wheel. Just like the word plan and the dialog animation in this clip. Nice job. (the "beyond" flying off the frame made me LOL)
Myth 4 Ever doesn't mean "Myth will never stop streaming ever". Myth 4 Ever means "Myth will be remembered forever, even if some of them move on from streaming"
It’ll be a tough rough time to get through. But I’m sure we’ll get through it. Myth4Ever💛
she is ending streaming activities but she is still going to be around she probably wants to focus less on the "channel" and more the hololive as the other entertainment they provide.
I was thinking when watching this, " this is a good time to listen to ' end of a life ' " when the end credit is really that song😂
It's like how Sana is eternal. She'll always be their genmate in and out of HoloLive. 💛
I don't think this song was written about an immediate someone leaving, but just the fact that idols do eventually graduate and move on a different stage. Like Gura singing "you're gunna miss me when I'm gone" its emotional because there is a message there, someday, and I think that's why end of a life was so emotional and beautiful in the anniversary concert
Myth is forever not matter what even after Ame stops activities her Ame and Myth’s legacy will live on forever.
Not Myth4Ever... Myth5Ever! Thats more than 4ever.
And also theres 5 of them
I'm glad they'll still be in contact with each other at least.
great editing, I had to skip this stream as it was far past my bedtime. appreciate the clip! I'm sure we only saw the iceberg of people in chat who were positive and melancholy, but there's ALWAYS the vocal minority who feel the need to lash out or create false narratives like 'this vtuber has beef with this other vtuber so their song is singling them out' or 'they obviously were referring to this person'.
If not for drama, where would the world be?
Damnit despite all the silly edits, the mini flashbacks broke me. Damn you
Last Days somehow really shocked me even if she really dropped a meteoric size of a hint, never thought that it is gonna be so soon..
I do feel what she's saying about Myth4ever. Felt that about past grads too. Still a tough situation but... We keep going.
myth are the TRAILBLAZERS in en vtubing scenethey are the prototype and my oshi forever
Dammit Lapen, how dare you hit me in the heart with the smol dogpile.
Myth4ever means we will remember them, forever and ever.
Myth is forever eternal
Rather than hinting at the people that are going to leave, it makes more sense to think Last Days is about the people that had already left. This year alone, hololive lost 4 members, and we can't even imagine what else could be happening to Calli's life outside work.
You really had to end this with Ame's iteration of Violet
Oh wow, I didn't even realize Ame was graduating, it's good to hear the graduation is mutual and I'm excited for her future. I've definitely never thought any streamer, Hololive or otherwise is going to stream forever. I don't think most people want to do any job forever. Life is too short, even for immortal mythological anime girls, and sometimes new jobs and opportunities pop up that require more of your attention and you need to step down from previous obligations to be able to follow that new path. It doesn't mean you didn't enjoy the path you were on, it doesn't mean you didn't enjoy the company of your companions on that path, it only means a new path has opened. Those old friends will still be friends, that old path will still be tread later by others who wish to walk it, but this new path and adventure awaits.
Sad to see the end of an era.
😭ameeeeeeeeeeeeee why now why this timeline what did we do to deserve this 😭
AME will come back for large events.
This, too, shall pass.
Sure, you can say that Myth will "always be Myth," but let’s be honest-no one was making that claim during the fourth anniversary. We’ve seen similar phrasing with "Council will always be Council", even after becoming Promise, but it’s hard to ignore the timing here.
Ame could have announced her graduation earlier, allowing the theme to be something like, "We will always be Myth, no matter what happens." But that’s not what fans took from it. The message during the anniversary felt like a statement of intent-that Myth wasn’t going anywhere anytime soon. Many, including Kiara, felt let down because the theme felt deceptive in hindsight.
It’s not that Myth ceases to exist, but the way it was presented made it seem like there was no reason to worry. In that context, perhaps more sensitivity could have been shown when choosing the theme.
Well said
Some people are far too emotionally invested in other people’s lives without any real consideration for them
True, I get that you love a vtuber, but take in consideration everyones feelings while also try to understand that this is a job at the end of the day
The whole industry is based off of making people that way for profit
Myth4EVER!
Calli's got like 3 or 4 songs that are just going to destroy people at her graduation
How is "concluding streaming activities" different from "graduating"?
Ame said that she might still do some work with Hololive to support EN, but she isn't going to do any more idol or streaming stuff.
She’ll make an occasional appearance here and there
A graduation is full on cessation of activities under the name.
Concluding streaming activities means that she is no longer streaming, but can be part of projects or collaborations. Basically, she'll be around and you'll still see her every now and then.
She's likely transitioning to staff with the new EN HQ
@@timepatroltrunks8276 Ame (and other members) have already said this is not true. She's not going to work for Cover full time in any capacity anymore.
Let's hope this experiment woth Ame is a success causing a somewhat still affiliated to Hololive even if they stop activities they can still appear occasionally like music artists in labels. They might not be Taylor Swift but their characters are real.
Idol industry needs to change if they are aiming.for international appeal.
Graduations are just crippling everything from the talents, corp and community. Rather have them in royalties, so the merch still sells and the fans still can appreciate the girls specially if they're having talent heavy card games and such. Keep them in touch and invite them on special occasions.
Myth Golden girls arc when?
falseeyed mentioned what ame's other name is so its not like she's gone gone just like magni and coco theyre still around
feels bad man :/
By her hair. Everywhere. Oh.
Wink Wink
Lore wise, Ame is just a human, Gura and Kiara are mythical creatures and Ina is possessed by the Ancient Ones.
so as i was listening to this as Cali was talking about last days an emergency vehicle went by and i did check to see if that was part of the video or not but it just seems like mere coincidence that it happened like that XD
Should have been Myth5ever then. Funny internet use of 5ever has been a thing for a while theres five of them so it makes sense since they are internet celebs initially, so having the 4ever and ame leaving ish connects those dots
Those people should get off the internet for a while and touch grass. No sane person looks at 4ever and says it was a secret message. "4" "four" "for" makes perfect sense in the conversion.
1:55 when did that happen?
As long as Ame is still there, I don't feel as sad. True sadness is her disappearing forever. But she's working in the background and basically becoming management and showing up for events.
Like how that one hololive clips animator BluezKaito includes Sana in all his videos, if you watch it consistently, it's like she's still there. As long as Amelia doesn't fully fade away into obscurity and has a presence. That's all that matters. She doesn't need to stream, she can upload prerecorded videos and people would still love her. Just like how Jontron uploads like once a year and still has a massive fan base.
She's not working in the background and she's not joining management. This has been clarified again by Ina. Just showing up for special events sometimes 👍 Ame also clarified in the comments that if someone at holo asks her for tech help ofc she'll reply, but that is completely different from her usual role of driving holo projects forward.
@@Novanice So she won't even show up during Enrico part 2? If she shows up for massive group events once a year, it would be enough.
@@Hathathorne I guess we'll just have to wait and see what the events might be, doubt they'll give us a detailed list so far in advance.
People quit jobs for multiple reasons. Just let her be guys.
There's a reason IRyS, Fauna, Kronii, Mumei, and Bae rebranded as Promise.
Because it was stupid to keep Irys as her own solo thing considering how much she did with Council and Cluncil had just lost a member.
It wouldn’t make sense for Myth to rebrand. Especially when the 4 left are the actual Myths in the lore
IMO they almost certainly did it because for IP purposes, this way Council will always be 5, CouncilRyS can always be 6, and Promise refers to specifically IRyS, Fauna, Kronii, Mumei, Bae. (Merchandise legal implications?)
We might see Calli, Kiara, Ina, and Gura rebrand (and the other "partial" gens), we might not. But for now because of Ame's affiliate status, Myth doesn't need to as much as Council did.
I just don't get why Ame left and didn't even give us the reason why... It's unfair.
Man....ame...💛
People do not like change. Shocking.
Calli always looking at the bad comments.
I'm sorry but Ina should be Betty White. If anything Kiara is more like Blanche. Calli is perfect as Bea Aurthur, and Gura as Sophia.
appreciate what we have now but prepare your mind and heart for it to end because everything does eventually end. One day all the EN people you love will stop streaming, maybe even Hololive itself will end in the future. That's just reality.
I'm not one of those unhinged people ranting and raving about this sort of thing, and I wish Ame the best in the future. But... It does feel like the TIMING of her going right after the anniversary with included song about Myth Forever was a little... I dunno. Tone deaf maybe?
I think the better thing to do would've been to have Amelia Graduate well in advance of the anniversary, then have her come back for it to sing and dance and hang out with Myth. That way "Myth Forever" would've felt more like a promise for the future and already illustrating that they mean it. That even though Ame isn't streaming anymore, she isn't "gone".
The way they did it with them saying "Myth Forever" then Amelia immediately retiring afterwards feels very... Odd to say the least. So I understand why some folks would have an issue with that. But i'm sure when she comes back for something in the future, it'll help alleviate those sorts of concerns.
Well my thought is, if you guys are actually gonna stay friends and stay working together, yeah, then it's not cap. I only dislike it when content creators and stuff really do break ties with someone (or that person up and LEAVES) and everyone for the sake of the fans feelings keeps up the façade that they're all together. But if Ame is still floating around up there in space with Sana than I don't mind keeping it 4Ever5!
wink wink😉
I can get where the people upset about Myth Forever are coming from after how Council, Project Hope, and Promise was handled, but between Ame not being gone forever and there not being anything they can roll into Myth to rebrand it, I think we should focus on supporting our 5 pioneers as best we can rather than being butthurt over effectively nothing.
I think will got hard Gura, cause Gura is best friends to Ame.
I desperately hope people will get there acts together after Ame is gone. I couldn't handle it if people start doing what they still do with Sana. Always trying to forcefully inject her in everything instead of learning to let go. I worry that the fact that Ame may actually be present for future stuff means that people will forever bother the girls about if she'll be in any project that comes up.
Over the years the chats and comments have been filling with annoying people that have no manners. Hell there's a clipper that makes fun 3D animations for every clip, but I hate watching them because he puts Sana in every single one like she was there. I really like Justice and with how hard Cover is investing in EN I like to imagine that the future is bright. But I just don't know. I guess only time will tell.
Myth forever is such a joke statement to make when Gura is not even streaming on normal days except for anniversary and the merch related streams, Ina is gone since 2021, even Calli stops streaming regularly since 2 years ago. Kiara has been the only person who puts in effort to stream. Everyone else is busy doing literally nothing.
I can see what you mean about Gura, but after checking just now, Calli doesn't seem stream rarely, and Ina especially seems to still stream a lot, in fact almost every 2-3 days for the past couple months. So... what are you on about?
@@ogeyrat a stream is a stream. Doesn't matter what it is. Furthermore, for Ina'nis, her drawing skills have been one of her main appeals from the very start.
@@ogeyrat also, no one asked your opinion either yet you posted the initial comment. Or what, you expected your comment to stand as an unquestioned monument? Don't be ridiculous. You post a comment, expect dissidence. Your ow importance means absolutely nothing merely for posting the original comment.
This is all so needlessly dramatic. She didn’t even graduate. She said she’ll still be stopping by from time to time. She might even resume streaming in the future. Why is everybody treating this like a funeral?
1:04 lmao that -Gilmore- Golden Girls edit
that Beats n Shapes ending goes so hard.
Myth will be forever even after they all leave. Their legacy is eternal
I love Calli and Myth, but I have to respectfully disagree. To me at least, Myth is done. 80% of a thing is not the same as the thing itself. I hope the remaining members go on for many more fun and successful years, but it won't be as Myth. That's over.
Double digit iq take
This makes no sense
@@BigMicahCmore like single digit
Imagine being on the internet and going full stupid. You never go full stupid.
This is kind of Kiara's feeling, too - even if Myth is still doing group activities, its not going to be the same for Kiara.
They are both valid opinions/feelings but I side with Kiara. Its not going to be the same. Myth as we know them are pretty much done. Its up to them how they are going to move forward. Kind of like Promise with Sana. They have move forward even if its not the same.
1:04 that's not fair.........
That myth collab was so sad but very good for a lot of us, but it was freaky for myself, just thinking "what input can i even say besides o7's and well wishes just" then typing 'myth4ever' into chat, remembering that phrase and thinking it'd go on by and be gone but no, 1 minute later chat just exploding using it, just made me go: this community the HLen girls have made, fostered and brought to fruition, truly is amazing!
From how we can all become connected over a common passion we love and for the people who make this community the type it is, how we can think so similarly and be positively unreal when we REALLY want to be! (which should be all the time when it comes to this stuff but you can always have toxics, and there was none for that last collab though!) and i was sad but loved that stream, it really broke the whole illusion and showed us the genuine people behind those models really do have each others backs!
i really hope Ame all the best on her adventures in the future and looking forward to seeing where and when we may see her next! (whenever that time comes)
Myth4Ever, never meant only 4, but that myth will be together '4ever', the 4 and (when)ever ame may appear again!
This did not help. But thank you.
1:03 Brilliant Edit.
I was thinking when watching this, " this is a good time to listen to ' end of a life ' " when the end credit is really that song😂