R C Sproul Assurance of Salvation #6 The Source of Full Assurance

[@jaypreddy8185]

Nothing in my hands I bring, only to Jesus Christ I cling

[@michaellacoopman2303]

I’ve struggled with my assurance for years but I’ve come to realize if I wasn’t saved I wouldn’t even care. I love Jesus, i desire to obey honor and glorify him in my life. John 3:16

[@brendaduncan4347]

I went 10 years thinking I was saved and really wasn't. The Lord got a hold of me one evening after I heard a sermon on salvation. I realized I had never repented. I became genuinely regenerated, and I have never doubted since.

[@jodyel]

Indeed.

[@dw6528]

DW: The Calvinist cannot go by PERCEPTION as an indicator in regard to election status - because Calvin's god purposefully creates a percentage of believers to be CHAFF believers and he gives these believers FALSE PERCEPTIONS concerning their salvation.
John Calvin
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The Lord instills into their minds such *A SENSE* …..as can be felt *WITHOUT* the Spirit of adoption. (Institutes 3.2.11)
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He causes those whom he *ILLUMINES FOR A TIME* to partake of it; then he....strikes them with even greater blindness (Institutes 3.24.8)

[@dw6528]

@@LookinUp_ DW: The Calvinist relationship with scripture is also a very unique relationship - because the Calvinist is taught to treat scripture *AS-IF* what it teaches is FALSE.
It works this way
1) The Calvinist is taught that the doctrine of decrees is not only what scripture teaches - but is one of the most sacred parts of what scripture teaches.
2) The Calvinist lives *AS-IF* the doctrine of decrees is FALSE
Thus the poor Calvinist is forced to treat what (for him) scripture teaches *AS-IF* it is FALSE.
Since that is the case - it makes perfect sense that a Calvinist would want someone who shines a flashlight on their dilemma to STOP doing so.

[@dw6528]

@@LookinUp_ DW: BTW: I do agree with you about legalism - cults etc.
Calvinism - has two characteristics which are commonly observed within religious cults.
1) A Closed system of logic
2) Milieu Control
Calvinism must have a closed system of logic - because there are so many aspects of the doctrine which the Calvinist does not find palatable.
This situation naturally leads the Calvinist into various degrees of self-contradiction.
The STANDARDIZED rules of logic are problematic for the Calvinist - because under its light - the self-contradicting nature of the belief system becomes too obvious.
So the Calvinist must find a way to embrace self-contradiction - while refusing to acknowledge self-contradictions for what they are.
Doing so required TWISTING language and TWISTING logic in order to contort it into a system designed to obfuscate its contradiction of itself.
Milieu Control - is predominately the controlling of language within a group - in order to control THINKING PATTERNS of group members
"Milieu Control" is "GROUP THINK".
It entails dogma, protocols, innuendo, slang, and pronunciation, which enables group members to identify other members, and to enforce cognitive changes in group members.
That is why we see the TWISTING and CONTORTION of both language and logic within Calvinism.

[@MisterFrieze]

The only assurance is the Presence of the Holy Spirit, Ruach HaKodesh who is greater than our Spirit.

[@rexsellazsellate4034]

The message is so cleared about assurance of salvation. I'm blessed by God through Dr. RC sproul sermon. I wish he is still with us 😭😭

[@BLACKYZ92]

Well he certainly is in a far better place. Praise the Lord!

[@nahlabella4857]

This man was truly anointed by the NAME above all names.

[@SuperCanonshooter]

True Assurance is only found in the promise of Jesus.
Our desires/feelings/emotions for Jesus has nothing to do with having true Assurance of our eternal life.
Jesus simply promises. "Whosoever believes in me will not parish but has everlasting life."
That's it. That's our Assurance.

[@deanrestorick3179]

Yes . Amen. Too many confusing doctrines. One true faith.

[@larrysauriol759]

You’re SO wrong! Demons believe in Jesus, but they do not follow Him and hate Him. Assurance has EVERYTHING to do with following Jesus and realizing what He accomplished for YOU at the cross, so how can you not love Him? At least a little, as RC explains. Check your heart, and if you have no affection for Jesus, then you’re not a Christian, and no better than the demons.

[@SuperCanonshooter]

@@larrysauriol759 what passage says “the demons believe in Jesus”?? And if there is such a passage that says “the demons believe in Jesus” then what does it specifically say the demons believe about Jesus?
Do you know what the promise of Jesus is? Do you know what the gift of God is that Jesus gives by one single moment of faith in Him? Do you know what human beings have to believe about Jesus to receive the gift of God?
Do you know John 3:15-18 explains Jesus’s promise to receive His gift of eternal life. As well as John 6:46 11:25-27 20:30-31.
Do you know “the demons believe” is in the book of James and that book isn’t teaching how to receive the gift of eternal life??

[@lastchance8142]

Amen and Amen. We believe in Him who justifies the ungodly. However, how does that faith play out? God is the same yesterday, today and forever. The Son of God is the same One who appeared to Moses, Abraham, Jacob ect.. He commands holiness and righteousness. If the Holy Spirit resides in your soul, will you be motivated to love God, or to rebellion?

[@zahd35music]

@@SuperCanonshooterJames 2:19 is cited. Yes it doesn’t say “believe in Jesus” but rather they believe that GOD is one. The saying “GOD is one” was the most basic Jewish teaching that every Jew knew. This was most likely to assert a Monotheistic GOD as opposed to the Gentilistic pagan polytheistic systems. GOD being one and United was a mark of Holiness (being set apart) from other/false/created religions.
This verse and the commenter’s interpretation come together in light of verses like Matthew 7:21-23, where there is a difference between simple professors of Christ vs possessors of Christ.
‘Belief about’ does no good. ‘Belief in’/trust/faith is the difference. With this comes an emotion or affection. The affection accompanies the effection/election, but does not drive it.
Everyone who believes in, or puts their faith in Jesus (which is a gift of GOD- Ephesians 2:8-9) has an affection and desire for GOD. People who simply acknowledge the facts don’t live by them, and there is no connection to them.
True believers may fall asleep or wander, but they face discipline (Hebrews 12) in which they are awaken, and their desire/affection stops being dormant. We, like Peter or the other Apostles, may fail in our faith, but He who has borne our sins and drawn us to Him will never fail in His faithfulness towards us

[@lastchance8142]

Do you love Jesus at all? Do you love God, and His word, and His commandments? Does your spirit struggle with your flesh? Do you desire to be free of this body, this world? If yes, the Holy Spirit is working in you, you are not lost. Jesus said to "fast and pray" to overcome wickedness. How many of us are doing that?

[@soluschristus8360]

How easily we fall away from our earnestness in the relation and expect God to make us, become whatever. Earnestness is seeking Him with your whole heart.
If you "Will" not pick up your cross and follow me, you are not worthy of me.
Your desire is hidden in your heart. His Word is a two edged sword tightly dividing bone and marrow and even the intentions of the heart.
He will know if your are free loader, a gold brick, a gold digger, a benefits man.

[@cfaust688]

Solid and faithful teaching! Thank you! And, Praise God!

[@wadetaylor3195]

The gospel "by which also ye are saved" is in 1Cor 15:1-4 KJB, Trust Christ as your savior exclusive of works.

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

Love changes the heart

[@johnjames8739]

Had a really dry walk last week and realize now it’s because I wasn’t totally committed to the Word like I normally am

[@Saluspergratiam]

Realized this as well. I know I have signs of the Spirit in my life, yet I cannot name the last time I genuinely sat down and studied Scripture. I figure that it makes sense that my soul is starving and left grasping, I have not been feeding upon the Word of God!

[@madjack821]

A solid grasp on proper theology is crucial otherwise your faith comes apart with the pull of a thread.

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

Acts 3:13 , revelation 3 , 1 john 1:6-10 , genesis 13

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

John 3:16-20

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

Matthew 22:37-40

[@CDKLRK]

The whole presentation is wonderful. However, R.C. hits on a very important point starting at 11:00

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

Proverbs 23:17-20 gal 5 1-24

[@ohnooze1871]

Amazing

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

John 6 proverbs 3-4

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

Jeremiah 15-18

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

Psalm 15-19

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

Mark 13:11

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

Luke 13:12-14

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

Romans 5:20- romans 6:1-2

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

2 Samuel 6 v1-11 1 timothy 3

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

1 john 1-2-3-4-5

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

Matthew 5 , romans 3 , 1 peter 1

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

1 cor 1 ,2 Peter 2, Matthew 13 ,romans 1 v18-28

[@soluschristus8360]

"Do you love Him at all?"
This is Assurance??
About as much as any Gold Digger you discovered the hard way in your dating days...
Blessed Assurance?
Strive to seek!
Many on that day will say to me Lord, Lord...
We groan in this flesh...
There it is!!

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

John 14 2 cor 5

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

Col 3:1-3 isaiah 26:3

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

John 14 v21

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

Matthew 26

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

2 john 1:10

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

1 peter 1

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

Romans 8 , eph 1:1-14 , gal 4 ,

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

Jeremiah 17

[@vincestapleton703]

What Theology did the thief on the cross next to Jesus have?
Yet, Jesus assured him “Today, you will be with me in paradise.”🤔

[@douglasparsons4205]

He trusted and expressed faith in Christ. He did not have the opportunity for additional steps in the sanctification process

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

1 cor 3

[@dillxn554]

Where can I find this series?

[@velvetthunder4150]

Go to the Ligonier App and download for free.

[@dillxn554]

@@velvetthunder4150 Thank you my sibling in Christ!

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

2cor3:17

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

Phil 1 v6

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

Sll

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

Exdous 19

[@BLAM777]

Some do bear fruit and are told to depart from Jesus. Matthew 7 : 21-23

[@MisterFrieze]

No they are workers of iniquity. Liar

[@BLAM777]

@MisterFrieze how can they do miracles unless they are doing them by God’s power? We know several things about them from the text. First, we know there are many of them, because it is many who are on the broad road to eternal death, as compared to the relative few who have found the narrow path to eternal life. Second, they claim the name of Christ. These are not Muslims, Buddhists, or atheists. These are those who would gladly say, “I am a Christian.” They work their works in Jesus’ name. They pray and heal in Jesus’ name. They preach and teach in Jesus’ name. They build huge churches and ministries in Jesus’ name. They claim a relationship with Him. But they are none of His. In fact, He sends them away, not with commendation for their good works in His name (and many good works are done in Jesus’ name by false professors), but by disowning their every deed and word. He “never” knew them, nor did they ever truly know Him. They weren’t Christians who lost their salvation. They were never part of the elect of God, chosen before the foundation of the world (Ephesians 1:4), set apart and sanctified by the Spirit (1 Corinthians 6:11; 2 Timothy 2:21), and justified by faith (Ephesians 2:8-9). The ones Christ puts away from Himself with harsh words of condemnation, calling them doers of evil, never came to Him in faith, despite their outward good works and miracles.
Your not a very nice person are you? Fyi I never said these people are saved or good with God.

[@Yeshuahamashiach300]

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[@dw6528]

*THE THREE MISLEADING QUESTIONS*
R.C. minute 5:50
QUESTION #1) Do you love Jesus perfectly?
This is a question this person is incapable of answering.
Per the doctrine of decrees - WHATSOEVER PERCEPTIONS come to pass within any person’s brain are DETERMINED by infallible decree.
Every PERCEPTION of one’s world and one’s reality - is established by a decree which makes each PERCEPTION exist within the human brain infallibly. And it is humanly impossible to countervail that which is infallible - making it impossible for the human brain to discern any FALSE PERCEPTION.
THE CORRECT QUESTION:
“Do you have an assurance that the infallibly decreed “PERCEPTION of your love of Jesus” - is a TRUE PERCEPTION or a FALSE PERCEPTION?
The answer is NO - because per the doctrine of decrees - humans are note granted the function of discerning an infallibly decreed FALSE PERCEPTION. That which is established by infallible decree is inescapable.
QUESTION #2) DO you love Jesus as much as you ought to?
This question is LOGICALLY IMPOSSIBLE.
It implies the EXISTENCE of something that in fact does NOT EXIST.
Per the doctrine - the creature can ONLY be or do - that which is infallibly decreed. Nothing more and nothing less is permitted.
What the creature will be or do is therefore not *UP TO* the creature. It is solely and exclusively *UP TO* a divine will. It is established by a divine decree, which the creature has NO SAY in the matter of, and the creature is powerless to alter.
QUESTION #3) “Do you love Jesus at all?”
This follows the pattern of question #1
See answer to QUESTION #1
CONCLUSION:
John Calvin
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But the Lord....instills into their minds such a *SENSE* of his goodness as can be felt *WITHOUT* the Spirit of adoption. (Institutes 3.2.11)
Per the doctrine - the believer is given no ability to discern if the *SENSE* of salvation/election or love of Jesus - they have been infallibly decreed to have - is a FALSE PERCEPTION.

[@UnknownUser-dy6ij]

Trying to follow your logic, could you speak plainly?

[@dw6528]

@@UnknownUser-dy6ij DW: What statement does not make sense to you?

[@UnknownUser-dy6ij]

Could you sum up what you are trying to say in a sentence or two? The amount of hyphens and caps is hard to follow.

[@dw6528]

@@UnknownUser-dy6ij DW: There is a lot there. Why don't you tell me which statement doesn't make sense to you.

[@UnknownUser-dy6ij]

@@dw6528 Can we have assurance of salvation?