West Coast Main Line Driver's Eye View: Manchester Airport to Preston
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- Опубліковано 2 сер 2019
- ** I have no idea what happened to the caption at the beginning, the first station is Manchester Airport, not Piccadilly. I'm not reuploading the video just for this so just pretend it's correct **
Although the speeds in this video have been checked for accuracy, they are for guidance only and drivers should always use official documentation to ensure they are aware of all line speeds.
This is Part 1 of this three part video which takes us from Manchester Aiport to Preston, through the heart of Manchester and the delightful Lancashire countryside.
Part 2 will see us through to Carlisle, with a beautiful scenic run through the Lake District and will be coming soon.
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Filmed on board a Class 350/4 EMU
Line Speeds in MPH.
Superb video as always. Good to see the class 195’s in the video also. Can’t wait to see part 2 of this wonderful journey.
At first I thought the caption at the start was to indicate what your first station stop will be, then i read your video description.
Have used this line many times over the years, nice to see the driver's view for a change. Great video .💯
Superb video, nice to see northern country side as a southerner who loves our country its great to see interesting views. Looking forward to the other two parts. thanks for letting enjoy your videos.
Brilliant video and great sense of speed throughout, a route I've always wanted to see. Thanks for sharing..Subbed 🖒
What a terrific video, looking forward to part 2, thanks for the upload
Come on part 2. Can't wait. Great video .Thank you. Much enjoyed.
Absolute Magic... Thank You My Friend...
Please be quick with the rest of the parts. I love watching these sorts of videos as it helps me sleep on an evening. I find them incredibly relaxing
So well-presented. thank you.
Lovely smooth driving mate, keep up the videos
Great video! Big thanks from New York.
Thanks FourFoot. I watched it all the way through but it's all buzz, whirr, click, ding beep and it didn't even stop in Bolton!!!. Sentimentality is kicking in. The 09.17 to Glasgow which was always Brittania hauled, the balance working around midday which often produced a clan, the evening Ancoats to Kingmoor freight... It's time for my medication.. 'sigh'
Great filming. Thanks.
Brilliant video! Really enjoyed watching, especially thought Farnworth New Tunnel!
That was a Excellent VIDEO !!!
Very interesting ! Can't wait for part two !!!
Thank you for sharing !!! :):):)
amtrakharry I can’t tell if you are being sarcastic or not
@@jacobwalker4662 No. I really can't wait for part #2.
That was very interesting.
I love those cab ride video's...:):):)
A bit weird but OK
@@jacobwalker4662 You cant expect people to not enjoy your videos mate. You upload them people watch them. Some people are avid train fans and would love to do a job like yours. Just don't come across as ungrateful when somebody shows an interest in your job.
These videos are brilliant. It looks like a nice way to earn a living too. I particularly like the fast sections where you really get to stretch the locos legs.
Very enjoyable. Thanks for the vid.
Cheers Ben, helps a lot for route learning
Nice to see what they have done to the line from the drivers PoV
I'm looking forward to the next part.
Superb film, thumbs up :)
Brilliant. Living in Dorset it's lovely to see other parts of the country in such close up. Thanks.
Are you by Poole. ?
@@hellyeah513 Poole LC HAHA!
Great stuff! Thanks.
I’m taking this train on Friday one of my favourite routes it’s nice to see the drivers view
Hope to see Part 2 soon!
Cracking video mate
great video not seen this route on you tube before exelelent
Used to do Manchester to Oxenholme a lot, my journeys went from Piccadilly to Wigan via the Eccles to Liverpool line though not via Salford Crescent and that route.
Manchester Piccadilly Platform 14 has certainly changed. Looked more like Manchester Airport.... LoL!
Superb video many thanks. Looks like the section through Chorley is due a visit from the weed killer train.
You beat me to it!!
That's mostly Himalayan Balsam which I believe is a difficult invasive species to get rid of.
Lovely trip something so simple, Great graphics, not like other crap videos you get on youtube cannot wait for part 2
This video is a joy to watch, living in Bolton it has been far too long since we have seen a Scotland Bound Transpennine Express train going through. I'm looking forward to the day we can board from Bolton in the future. That Bird Strike at Horwich must have left it's mark, pesky feathered creatures lols. Thanks for sharing, looking forward to part 2
You can board from Bolton now since they launched the new timetable a few days ago. It's pick-up only northbound and set-down only southbound.
@@grzegorzbrzeczyszczykiewic7482 Thank you for the update, it has been such a hassle changing at Preston and other stations, particularly with Northern Rails unreliability.
wow
Raining in Manchester, now theres a thing !
A nice video that cements my belief that it’s always raining in Manchester!
Stockport is much wetter than Manchester
Brilliant thank you
Great video.
Unusual to see rain in Manchester.
drummerboy1390 is that sarcasm?
If you're in manchester and it's not raining, then you're in a city that's not manchester.
It always rains in the North lmao.
thx for sharing great .
Excellent!
Excellent
This is a TPE class 350 ?
Interesting footage for me as I've not travelled on this line since it was electrified.
Thanks. Preston my home town.
Nice, used to go through bolton with TPE before the wires on the line went up when they used the 185s even before the 350/4s came on the scene.
Cant understand why it did not stop at Bolton seeing it is the first major town after Manchester
@@chrisedmundson6673 Too many commuters taking up long distance seats!
@@johnwebster3224 U have folding seats on Nova 2s and 3s near the driving cab on non-First Class driving carriage for commuters
nice one, like that.
just after leyland after the bridge you can see my house,,,*laughs*
john jessup noob
I’m coming after you
Edit: joking
@jonjess56 Is that the house you built whilst on shift a British Leyland? Joking, but we had neighbours who worked at BL, and put in an appearance every 4th week. The other 3 they would be painting houses, gardening etc; and were clocked on. Evidently with the full knowledge of tbe foremen, managers etc.
Nice journey
Nice ride.
Love your videos any chance you could do some in the south west 😂😂👍
Nice day for filming apart from rain....camera to far left shows how close to trees ,bushes walls and bridges you reall are...just as well the yplanned ahead when making them lol...top vid,one of ,best ive seen for clarity,theres a few about not many...350`s got APC or manual for neutral zones ? lots of anti derail bits still present on this line nice greens on 100mph stretch you doing mile in 17 secs lol
350s have APC
Cheers
At about 34:54, I think he hits a bird. You can see it flying into the screen from left to right followed by chuckle of a man driving a multi-ton speed machine.
well spotted . you are so caring :)
I think I would have done too! I know I did when a pigeon hit my roof rack and and exploded into a mass of feathers! 😂😂😂
@@stevies.1975 Yeah, death is just hilarious.
High speed trains from the WCML are occasionally diverted onto the Manchester To Preston line.
Probably a silly question but can you end up on the wrong tracks sometimes or does it never happen?
Wow, 47 mins, no delays! Shocker.
Absolutely brilliant - thank you veru much for taking us along with you. Is there a chance you could incorporate a speedo on-screen one day?
Thanks. I'm afraid not, no, unless there's a camera which has that feature built in with GPS.
@@beneliastrains that would fox me but if your need went public some company might step up!
What date was this was this that all the trains where delayed and cancelled due to overhead line damage
Nice to see the huge pile of bricks that is the Principal Hotel in Manchester city centre. It was still the Refuge building when I worked there in the early 1970s.
My late father worked for the Refuge for about 25 years, retiring in 1978, although he was based in Salisbury and travelled to Manchester only rarely. I stayed in the Principal a few months ago. An impressive building.
@@NigelCopy It's an incredible building. The inside was even more impressive than the outside. As a post boy, I spent the first couple of months getting lost! It was like an Art Nouveau maze!
Excellent video as usual Ben. Of all the units you've driven, which is your favourite?
It's a close competition between 700, 319 and 185 but I think 700s just about win.
@@beneliastrains We hate seats on 700s here in London
Curious about the disused bridge off to the left at 12:51 - any idea what line(s) that used to carry?
It annoys me that the platform number indication on MP349 isn't symmetrical.
It really is time they did something about Platforms 13 and 14 at Manchester Piccadilly Station.
What would you suggest?
09weenic I don’t know what the answer is, it reminds me of the diagrams of the original Ludgate Hill Station platforms. It was of course never designed to be used by the number of trains now using it. When I was a Regional Railways Conductor at Sheffield in the early 90’s we had one job which was a Cleethorpes Liverpool Express and the return working,we worked always from Sheffield to Oxford Road and return we never relieved or got relieved at Manchester Piccadilly. Perhaps Manchester Mayfield might be the answer.
Great video what is the alarm going off outside the train and I bet that crow died instantly been hit at 100mph
34:50
omg that bird got damn well teleported to heaven xdd
The pigeon forgot to put on its high-vis orange jacket before venturing onto the tracks. Probably missed the safety briefing too. This was an accident waiting to happen.
Nice one - Lived most of my life along this line and was hoping to see it from the cab...
Did you hit a bird just after Horwich Parkway? Bet that left a mark... :D
Also has it always been 100mph or is that just with the new electrified lines and the new trains?
They upgraded the line speeds once electrification was complete
it's only a wood pigeon
@@GWRProductions-kg9pt Not exactly an endangered species!
We've all had silly things happen before. Now you've had yours - don't do it again! Only joking! Looking forward to seeing Shap and Beattock in their magnificence - especially if this foul weather continues. There's nothing quite like horizontal rain sweeping over open hillsides!
What a excellent video.... can anyone tell me what that sound is (example 0:30) sounds like a siren or something...Thanks
Traction motors afaik?
Why does train make that sound it makes when passing through signals?
Compared to continental Europe, almost no graffiti. I am glad.
I'm trying to understand British rail terminology. I've learned that up/down are terms used to describe heading towards (up) or away (down) from a major station.
So where I'm confused is that you're calling a line the Down Bolton both heading towards and away from the station. In this video, shouldn't the line before reaching the station be called the Up Bolton and then after passing the station the Down Bolton or am I missing something?
Great video by the way, really enjoyed it!
Sean - the people of Bolton will be delighted to know that you consider it a major city. They may even invite you to invest in their association football team.
The city in question is Manchester. We're on the down line passing Bolton on the way to the east coast main line at Wigan.
@@kfae8959 Ah okay I see. It's just confusing when the video text is showing "Down Bolton". Wouldn't the correct terminology be "Down Manchester" then?
Thanks for the response!
That would't be specific. Lines run into and out of Manchester from all directions, and into three stations, all of which enjoy through and terminating services. You may see the point after leaving Oxford Road in this video when we are briefly on the Chat Moss line (the one towards Liverpool via Warrington) before returning to the Bolton? The captions are specifying which line we are on.
I know the yellow line on the platforms is for the express or non stopping trains but what is the red line for (I think its red it could be pink )?
IIRC its zone for NO ITEMS to be left blocking platform..like bags wheelchairs etc
Never thought these stocky built non aerodynamic Class 350 could even do a hundred. What's the laugh about at 34:52 🤣 and the bubble sound at 39:04?
Meu amigo. aos 3:51 em diante, estás a 75 Km/h?, ou é milhas?. Parabéns pelo vídeo e também por compartilhar.
mph
Sorry if misunderstood, knew you had permission, was meaning how do you get the permission and what special conditions did you have to meet? I know how strict TOC’s are with any distractions in the cab, as its safety critical, did they put someone else in cab with you? Thanks
I asked my local managers, who asked me to ask the head of ops, who asked me to ask my local managers. The local managers then gave me a list of conditions. I don't need anyone in the cab no, I just stick it on the windscreen and hit record.
The company have to have access to the videos if they require them and if any incident takes place during filming the footage is not to be used. That's basically it with a few other little conditions.
Beautiful stuff, what service was this?
0710 off the Airport
why was all the signals flashing even the green ones were ?
Did anyone else notice the chap in a strange place at 7:42 ? Looks as though he's going to walk straight into the rail bridge.
Brilliant video - this is my route when I go to visit family back home in Scotland so it is great to see it from the drivers view.
I’m a little confused over the signals though if someone could explain? Just after Water Street Junction Down Bolton at 19:09 there is a banner off (proceed aspect) signal with an arrow pointing right, but the next signal at 19:20 is a single yellow, and a junction signal pointing east? The next signal is a red. So are the signals from 19:09 sort of “early warnings”?
They're banner repeaters used to tell driver if next signal is at Danger or not
They're installed on places where u can't see clearly signal from about 500 yds (curves, low bridges,etc)
Howcome you didn't stop at Bolton? Was it not a scheduled stop?
Is that the Ordsall Curve as seen at Walter Street Junction?
Mark O'Neill Yes, at Water St Junction
Great video I was wondering when this would come out am I right in saying the MU on the speed limit stands for Multiple Unit or is it something else also even though I've been on this route all my life it's interesting seeing it from a driver's perspective
Correct. Multiple unit. Some multiple units can't use these speeds, usually because of their weight.
how do the overhead cables remain rust free ?
They're copper.
Certainly changed a lot in 25yrs
Is it standard practice at Manchester Piccadilly to have about 17 persons between the travellers and the train when this (or any other) train arrives? Also the use of a flyover is not really used on this line from Manchester Airport to Edinburgh. Despite this a good video and the rain?! That is part of life. You can not let the train wait anywhere for the rain to disappear and only than to continue!
you can hold a train if the weather is far to heavy that the wipers cannot cope as ive heard of trains being held because the rain had been that heavy drivers were reporting poor visibility and that the wipers weren't coping, also a train can be held up at a station or even where there is no station where rain as flooded a line and the water as covered the top of the rails, and you cannot say this is untrue as this as also happened, otherwise health and safety would have a lot to say if there was an accident due to a train being allowed to move in these torrential conditions
Great video, when are you going to do the Blackpool to east Lancs line Colne or Copy Pit Line?
when will part 2 be released?
When it's ready.
At the start of this video. The train started from platform 14. At 14 mins the train arrives back at Man Piccadilly platform 14 again. But the platform at the beginning the
train is under a building. At 14 mins it arrives platform 14 and it looks like a different platform. Are you sure it started at Man Piccadilly. Other than that, enjoyed video.
Yes. I addressed this point in the video description.
Thanks.
@@beneliastrains thanks for replying. My fault I went straight into video without looking at description.
That's alright, we all do it 😁
What permission do you have to get from your TOC TPE to film ? Do you have to do anything extra so can film? Really enjoy your video’s
I'm not sure what you mean by 'what permission'. I have permission. I had to agree to a series of conditions
What does up or down signify?
The direction of travel. You'll see it sometimes broken down into 'fast' and 'slow' as well. This is to distinguish between express and commuter services. So for example, this is a 'down slow' service.
Don't go to all that extra work as it's obviously Manchester Airport as the captions states.👍
was it pigeon strike?..or crow .didnt stop to look..at least it was quick lol
usually a pigeon
Yes, a pigeon. If you pause the video you can see the wing bars just before impact.
What type of train, class?
Michael Cawood Class 350!
Pigeon strike at Horwich???
RIP Pigeons
Just the one pigeon actually
when you doing Blackpool north route let me know please
My company don't operate trains to Blackpool
I think Don Coffey is going to post that route soon so it's worth checking out
are these speeds in kph or mph?
mph
A lovely ride through rainy England and that too at a maximum speed of 110 km per hour. What about part 2? When is that going to be released?
Its MPH. England uses imperial units for speed and distance, metric for most other stuff. Its complicated, but it works.
Is 110 MPH/about 176 KMH
Well the wipers are better than on old stock.
What do you mean by UP and DOWN? Notice you put that in some destinations.
Up is the line towards London and Down is the line away from London.
I take it that you know Don Coffey very well?
Yeah we both work at the same depot
Why after the start do you say you’re an platform 14 at Piccadilly when you’re at the airport?
Read the description
Great Video, what class of train are you driving?
tony hogwood This is a Class 350/4
35:13 christ there's some wet beds up from Blackrod!