@@cursedhfy3558 If survs are gonna side town against a maf, nk, or coven they really should do it early, otherwise they open themselves up to throwing when they act indecisive, there was no reason to leave a ww alive if he's just gonna side town like that. Also its not a case of survs never siding town, its doing what they want so long as they live, but too often survs make bad decisions in siding with town, often at the detriment of their own objective.
@@cursedhfy3558 Most of the time I recall seeing that happen it only comes after they accuse the surv of being evil, I feel like by default the survs will side town until that point. Usually a d1 surv claim is evil so in the event one real one pops up it's actually likely to be accused because d1 surv claims are generally like 60% evil.
I mean. That’s a easy situation for my style of surv play. I would just go for the draw in that scenario. Because I’m eternally neutral I always go for that surv only win. And with Pipe granting it there, that’s a no-brainer for me to not vote there.
i just played a game as ww and claimed an arso triggered my trap and had the whole town searching for the arso while i picked them off and it was beautiful because at the end they realized there was no arso and i straight up won with the sruvs
There should be an achievement for changing your role 3 times in a game. Aka: Amne -> GA -> Surv -> vamp Amne -> Exe -> Jest -> vamp It would always need a vamp but it would be a cool achievement.
alternately, a very convoluted situation involving a second amne that goes like this: mafia has gf but no mafioso and 2 maf non-killing, gf as well as one mafia non-killing dies. amne remembers the mafia non-killing. third original mafia (who is now mafioso) dies, making amne mafioso. second amne remembers gf and dies. amne-mafia-mafioso-gf.
one ww game I had we had a player who was doing this weird character bit and was being pretty annoying to everyone. so n2 I set up my rampage on him. I wipe out half the town as two mafia several townies and a sk had also visited this guy to either kill him or find out what his deal was.
I once had a game with 3 TP's that died by n2, I was a Retributionist. You can guess how excited I was to ACTUALLY play the role. Our D3 Hang turned out to be PM'er that confirmed one of the two Surv claims. So, what did I do? I talked with surv, saved them TWICE by using TP's on them against maf and SK. And then got converted by a vamp. Yet, this dude STILL sided the mafia that tried to kill him, push him and outright make the town paranoid of him when the Town refused to hang him. This is why I hate Survivors. They think they are making ''da playz'' when they side any evil for no actual good reason. And similar situations I mentioned above happened to often to me. I hate playing WW, Jugg and Arso since they are solo classes that get focused by all evils in the game. However just to get rid of ''D1 SURV'' claims that either turn out to be fake or outright betray town in every single chance they can get their hands on (Including taking risks against a vigilante just to be a dick), I have equiped these scrolls to make sure no amount of vests can save their arse and have been hunting them game to game ever since. *Its actually quite fun.*
I got a 5 kill hex bomb to win the game and got all 4 main achievements for vampire in one game today. Today was a good game for tos! Also love watching the videos pipe, hopefully I get to play with you one day to see if I’m good enough to keep up!!
I was maf, and a fellow maf tried to get a surv to side us. Surv immediately outed the maf. So, when I was last maf, and it was down to me, 3 confirmed trappers, a confirmed spy, and the surv, I just killed the surv. Teach 'em not to turn on the people who can kill them.
Day 280 of tracking D1 survivor claims. You ever, like, chew Easter bubblegum? Unrelated but it tastes pretty good. Total Real D1 Surv Count: 59 Total Fake D1 Surv Count: 70 Total Unknown D1 Surv Count: 4 Total Survivors Who Did Not Claim D1: 60
Is there a role/roles that can beat the crus and doc chain combo? besides jest and jailor. What if there a Werewolf, Pestilence and a full powered up Juggernaut went and attacked them all in the same night? Will doc/crus die? Will a hex bomb stop the exodia combo?
Hexmaster or poisoner with Necro. Astral visit bypasses defense and then hex bomb goes off after both visited. Poisoner hits crus and the doctor can't heal them, then waits for the crus to die. Arsonist could visit the crus, ignite, then visit the doc and ignite again. Full power jugg breaks through defenses and kills both, lives through the crus counterattack. As demonstrated in the video, ww cannot break in. Pest can't either, though both are immune to the retaliation.
I'd do the same as the surv tbh, I'd rather help someone win instead of forcing a loss for everyone but me. I try to side neutrals when possible, but sometimes it's just not realistic.
I had a game with a really stupid solo Medusa who threw his game and a funny Mafia this evening. The mafia tried to attack and clean me, a legit surv, night 1 but failed with their janitor getting killed cause a Crus who decided to randomly protect me. As for the solo Medusa, they decided to visit and stone me, a legit surv, late game and they got lynched for it. They threw there own game. They could have won if they had only asked me to side with them. If dusa had stoned one of the legit townies & asked me to side him town would not have had the numbers to deal with the dusa and the dusa could have won but he decided to throw his game and stone the surv and lose instead of stoning a townie & most likely win. How much of a stupid idiot was this dusa to throw his own game?
the doctor is being protected by the crus, so they have powerful defense. the werewolf has a powerful attack, which can’t kill the doc due to the crus-given defense.
Sk killed esc because they were rbd but died retri bg because they attacked the bg's target and also died to ww (Pipe). There was no way Pipe would die to bg
Pipe attacked the esc, meaning the SK also attacked the esc because the SK died to pipe's ww rampage. So the retri BG was also on the escort. If SK didn't attack the escort directly, then pipe would have died to the BG.
@@Okiesmokie bg can't protect indirect attacks, only 1 direct attack. Guess what's an indirect attack? Rampage is. There was no way bg could have killed Pipe
How did rampaging at crus house not work, that's bs, crus doesn't stop their target from dying during a visit because they have to fight off the attacker, that should have taken the doctor out
I don't know how you play this. Maybe it's because I'm not in ranked games yet, but the people you find in ranked practice are just toxic, and it makes watching these videos the only way to enjoy the game.
@@PopeMical oh i thought it wouldnt apply since the rampage was technically at the crus' house. i didnt think that it would carry over if you visited someone
@@oliverwray9510 Yeah that's the nice part of Crus and Doc. Both just give powerful defense for the night. They don't care if you walk into a rampage or get attack multiple times, you are safe. Meanwhile BG and trapper only protect you from one direct attack.
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"don't be the reason people hate survs"
well, dang, don't be the reason people hate siding town either. surv doesn't owe town a win
To be fair if survs never side town, they may as well be an evil.
@@cursedhfy3558 If survs are gonna side town against a maf, nk, or coven they really should do it early, otherwise they open themselves up to throwing when they act indecisive, there was no reason to leave a ww alive if he's just gonna side town like that.
Also its not a case of survs never siding town, its doing what they want so long as they live, but too often survs make bad decisions in siding with town, often at the detriment of their own objective.
@@Spartan322
I still feel like survs side town way too rarely, even when they can choose to side with whoever and win.
@@cursedhfy3558 Most of the time I recall seeing that happen it only comes after they accuse the surv of being evil, I feel like by default the survs will side town until that point. Usually a d1 surv claim is evil so in the event one real one pops up it's actually likely to be accused because d1 surv claims are generally like 60% evil.
@@Spartan322 Interesting, I normally see survs side evils.
Man, that surv really going with the 6 tp town? I woulda held my ground for the ww
Virgin surv
I mean. That’s a easy situation for my style of surv play. I would just go for the draw in that scenario. Because I’m eternally neutral I always go for that surv only win. And with Pipe granting it there, that’s a no-brainer for me to not vote there.
i just played a game as ww and claimed an arso triggered my trap and had the whole town searching for the arso while i picked them off and it was beautiful because at the end they realized there was no arso and i straight up won with the sruvs
I do that play all the time, sometimes it backfires & I get lynched as the fake arso though lol
There should be an achievement for changing your role 3 times in a game.
Aka:
Amne -> GA -> Surv -> vamp
Amne -> Exe -> Jest -> vamp
It would always need a vamp but it would be a cool achievement.
jest cant become vamp unfortunately, but i think changing roles just 3 times in a game is achievement worthy! :D
An Amnesiac has remembered that they were an Amnesiac.
@@bechamp7651 Aka their role hasn't changed.
@@寝子猫-j4y They can be converted
alternately, a very convoluted situation involving a second amne that goes like this:
mafia has gf but no mafioso and 2 maf non-killing, gf as well as one mafia non-killing dies. amne remembers the mafia non-killing. third original mafia (who is now mafioso) dies, making amne mafioso. second amne remembers gf and dies. amne-mafia-mafioso-gf.
"What was the point of that"
"funnies"
Speech increased to 100
Surv: "I don't want to drag it out."
man... just go grab a snack while you afk run the clock down to a win
Ww is such a fun role, especially for just making people just panic and getting multikills
I remember getting the attack the 5 people in one night, the one person I tried killing was the only person who didn’t die, because a single doc
one ww game I had we had a player who was doing this weird character bit and was being pretty annoying to everyone. so n2 I set up my rampage on him. I wipe out half the town as two mafia several townies and a sk had also visited this guy to either kill him or find out what his deal was.
"What was the point of that?" What a snot-nosed doctor. Would have been hilarious if you killed surv though.
I once had a game with 3 TP's that died by n2, I was a Retributionist. You can guess how excited I was to ACTUALLY play the role. Our D3 Hang turned out to be PM'er that confirmed one of the two Surv claims. So, what did I do? I talked with surv, saved them TWICE by using TP's on them against maf and SK.
And then got converted by a vamp. Yet, this dude STILL sided the mafia that tried to kill him, push him and outright make the town paranoid of him when the Town refused to hang him.
This is why I hate Survivors. They think they are making ''da playz'' when they side any evil for no actual good reason. And similar situations I mentioned above happened to often to me. I hate playing WW, Jugg and Arso since they are solo classes that get focused by all evils in the game. However just to get rid of ''D1 SURV'' claims that either turn out to be fake or outright betray town in every single chance they can get their hands on (Including taking risks against a vigilante just to be a dick), I have equiped these scrolls to make sure no amount of vests can save their arse and have been hunting them game to game ever since.
*Its actually quite fun.*
Great to hear
"Surv I could have just killed you"
Ye, and automatically lose the game xD
I got a 5 kill hex bomb to win the game and got all 4 main achievements for vampire in one game today. Today was a good game for tos! Also love watching the videos pipe, hopefully I get to play with you one day to see if I’m good enough to keep up!!
Pipe, whoever designed the WW, did a fantastic job. Though I'm sad that the WW didn't have a PT on it's belt.
I was maf, and a fellow maf tried to get a surv to side us. Surv immediately outed the maf. So, when I was last maf, and it was down to me, 3 confirmed trappers, a confirmed spy, and the surv, I just killed the surv. Teach 'em not to turn on the people who can kill them.
I hope the video you finally get the triple threat achievement is "I Got THE triple kill"
The bodyguard attacked someone attacking you, and the crusader attacked the bodyguard attacking someone attacking you.
the game where i die n2 instead of n1 like usual, slay
I love werewoof, perfect pronunciation! Great game
The triple threat...to 3 pour souls' lives >:)
Commenting before watching: You got the kill GF, SK, and Arso achievement
With a cherry on top
Day 7 of asking for another "Day in the Life of a Town of Salem Player: Part 3"
Day 280 of tracking D1 survivor claims.
You ever, like, chew Easter bubblegum? Unrelated but it tastes pretty good.
Total Real D1 Surv Count: 59
Total Fake D1 Surv Count: 70
Total Unknown D1 Surv Count: 4
Total Survivors Who Did Not Claim D1: 60
Great video as always :) - Brim
Is there a role/roles that can beat the crus and doc chain combo? besides jest and jailor. What if there a Werewolf, Pestilence and a full powered up Juggernaut went and attacked them all in the same night? Will doc/crus die? Will a hex bomb stop the exodia combo?
Hexmaster or poisoner with Necro. Astral visit bypasses defense and then hex bomb goes off after both visited. Poisoner hits crus and the doctor can't heal them, then waits for the crus to die. Arsonist could visit the crus, ignite, then visit the doc and ignite again. Full power jugg breaks through defenses and kills both, lives through the crus counterattack.
As demonstrated in the video, ww cannot break in. Pest can't either, though both are immune to the retaliation.
I forget if Pirate can break up the combo. Pirate does have a higher priority than Doctor, I unsure if that actually matters here.
@@ordalca2939 kool thanks
Wat the freak is banana cheese 0-0 and y am i concerned
I'd do the same as the surv tbh, I'd rather help someone win instead of forcing a loss for everyone but me. I try to side neutrals when possible, but sometimes it's just not realistic.
Reason 479216 you should always kill survs
Hehe that thumbnail is cute, love it!
POGGGGTRON
I had a game with a really stupid solo Medusa who threw his game and a funny Mafia this evening. The mafia tried to attack and clean me, a legit surv, night 1 but failed with their janitor getting killed cause a Crus who decided to randomly protect me. As for the solo Medusa, they decided to visit and stone me, a legit surv, late game and they got lynched for it. They threw there own game. They could have won if they had only asked me to side with them. If dusa had stoned one of the legit townies & asked me to side him town would not have had the numbers to deal with the dusa and the dusa could have won but he decided to throw his game and stone the surv and lose instead of stoning a townie & most likely win. How much of a stupid idiot was this dusa to throw his own game?
Peer pressure wins.
W upload
stopped watching my pipetron video for this- oh wait
12 acting like surv only wins ain't based smh.
Wait so the crusader can protect the doc from a rampage? If you attack the crus, shouldn't the doctor die?
the doctor is being protected by the crus, so they have powerful defense. the werewolf has a powerful attack, which can’t kill the doc due to the crus-given defense.
Fun fact I was 14 and attacked pipe N1
Alrighty a new video
Yet again i smelled a video
Once I got a quadra with sk
never trust a surv, even when you have no choice
Michael
Sk killed esc because they were rbd but died retri bg because they attacked the bg's target and also died to ww (Pipe). There was no way Pipe would die to bg
Pipe attacked the esc, meaning the SK also attacked the esc because the SK died to pipe's ww rampage. So the retri BG was also on the escort. If SK didn't attack the escort directly, then pipe would have died to the BG.
@@Okiesmokie bg can't protect indirect attacks, only 1 direct attack. Guess what's an indirect attack? Rampage is. There was no way bg could have killed Pipe
@@ZaTrapu Pipe and the SK attacked the escort directly though. The third person that got attacked was the dead bg that also went on the escort.
Hey there, I was probably in this video
Werewoof
Rip, did your best though.
Why would you want to have killed the surv, then you'd have just lost anyway?
Cuz funni
@@Andrew-ch3xj Fair enough, still like it when survs win.
I think it was more to say "i could have done that", since the surv ended up betraying WW. Not actually wanting to kill surv.
How did rampaging at crus house not work, that's bs, crus doesn't stop their target from dying during a visit because they have to fight off the attacker, that should have taken the doctor out
How did they all confirm you were fake in the first place?
Gg Pipton
I don't know how you play this. Maybe it's because I'm not in ranked games yet, but the people you find in ranked practice are just toxic, and it makes watching these videos the only way to enjoy the game.
So anyone wanna explain to me how that bloody will thing works?
if a roleblocker roleblocks a serial killer, they die and their will is bloodied and unreadable. unless the serial killer presses the cautious button.
If you visit a role that kills you for visiting them your will becomes bloody to not reveal who you visited
Impossible
I always die n1 as ww
Tbh I'm not a fan of the exodia combo in this
how did he not kill the doc if they didnt self heal? when he attacked the crus it shouldve killed the doc who was visiting shouldnt it
Crusader gives powerful defense, just like Doctor. That's why no one died there.
@@PopeMical oh i thought it wouldnt apply since the rampage was technically at the crus' house. i didnt think that it would carry over if you visited someone
@@oliverwray9510 Yeah that's the nice part of Crus and Doc. Both just give powerful defense for the night. They don't care if you walk into a rampage or get attack multiple times, you are safe.
Meanwhile BG and trapper only protect you from one direct attack.
Hang on, how come they both survived your ww attack at the end? Doesn't Crus only give basic defense? Or am I missing something else?
I think Crusader gives powerful defense and basic attacks one visiting target
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Smol pp play for the surv
First claimer
I swear. A good surv is a dead surv.