Is the Tech Job Market Dead in 2023?

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  • Опубліковано 29 лис 2024

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  • @StarlynsAgency
    @StarlynsAgency Рік тому +175

    It used to take me 2 to 3 weeks to land a new job.
    This years been appliying since april and just got 1 call. One single call. 15 years of experience and hundreds of websites made... one call in 3 months

    • @TranquilWanderer
      @TranquilWanderer Рік тому +10

      😭😭😭

    • @rik9833
      @rik9833 Рік тому +19

      man thats so fucked up, i bet they are saying you are over qualfied bullshit, i hate it man

    • @StarlynsAgency
      @StarlynsAgency Рік тому +16

      @@rik9833 that is what am thinking but comeone I dotn care about the salary or the title just give me a job! this is crazy

    • @PredatorPeyami
      @PredatorPeyami Рік тому +2

      that's crazy and not fair, i wish you best.

    • @ceooflonelinessinc.267
      @ceooflonelinessinc.267 Рік тому +2

      @@StarlynsAgency I am sorry to heat that. Please keep your head up and be aware that this is not by any means your fault. It is the todays oversaturated job markets fault. I know several people who have excellent degrees, work hard and try their best to find a job but dont event get an interview.

  • @admiral7599
    @admiral7599 Рік тому +49

    Companies in 2021: "There's no software developers there's a huge shortage!!!"
    What they mean: "There's no senior software developers but we don't want to train juniors or pay seniors this much."

  • @TheJacrespo
    @TheJacrespo Рік тому +163

    The market for entry-level positions is definitively broken, with several orders of magnitude more applicants than positions. This is bad news for bootcamps and other snake oil sellers. The market for senior positions is halfway to saturation, as evidenced by the way interviews are conducted, with far more stages, filters, and picky selections
    . So, yeap, these are hard times for those seeking employment in a broken and oversupplied IT market.

    • @wouterdegruijl4303
      @wouterdegruijl4303 Рік тому +33

      it has ben near impossible for me as a junior with no work experience to find a job

    • @rhoynedev
      @rhoynedev Рік тому +3

      People really need to find a niche. Being a generalist 'software engineer' is cool, but there are a lot of roles out there for people with specific skills. Tons of career opportunities in the AI market with not enough people to fill roles, for example.

    • @boshhh123
      @boshhh123 Рік тому +5

      @@wouterdegruijl4303 what's your portfolio looking like? If you're struggling to get a job with no work experience then it's quite simple - your portfolio is not good enough. Keep constantly improving your portfolio whilst job hunting and eventually it will be good enough to land you interviews for a junior position.

    • @joecater894
      @joecater894 Рік тому +3

      @@wouterdegruijl4303 go freelance.. convince a few with freebies.. get a portfolio going.. get more... start delivering service. Many webdev companies ...quite often in my experience they want so many skills and technologies and naturally dont expect to train anyone to aquire ANY skills in the industry... they literally have their shopping list of exact skills and want them all in order and in place right off the bat so you come through the door spinting and delivering all the productivty they want.. fair enough I suppose as business is business.. but it becomes impractical.. Maybe not the software-house types that want high level devs.. but the small scale wordpress type firms... They charge their client around 100USD(equiv)/hr. Learn just some of the tools properly and you could charge say... 50/hr.. with very acceptable results to the client... often these small webdev firms demand so many skills that effectively you become 100% of the process of their business anyway..

    • @joecater894
      @joecater894 Рік тому +2

      I would argue bootcamps are fine and dandy for someone who seriously want to be a dev.. there is nothing wrong with them. They can make you a dev. but its a journey.. you're not coming out of one and going straight into a full stack role thats for sure. but they are a stepping stone. The industry for example still isn't demanding a degree in CS (which as is case with other industries a show stopper for most..). The proper route would be a boot camp.. then some free free-lance exp.. then aim for a job. But in the beginning you need a certain amount of guidance and hand holding.

  • @tomashromnik108
    @tomashromnik108 Рік тому +29

    I have 11 years of experience and I still get rejected because they choose another candidate. It never happened before 2023, it started happening in 2023. I got 3 job offers weekly before 2023, now I get 1 job offer a month!

    • @Turnpost2552
      @Turnpost2552 Рік тому

      Then take the fing job then th are you b****ing about.

    • @sunnykawatachi
      @sunnykawatachi Рік тому

      Wow

    • @a.k.infinity1502
      @a.k.infinity1502 Рік тому +1

      And now getting an offer isn't good enough because they are rescinding offers now.

    • @manofsteel9051
      @manofsteel9051 Рік тому +2

      Yeah, you should give up. Go into a different industry. Tech is dead

  • @cy3889
    @cy3889 Рік тому +52

    Just seems so tiring, completed a CS degree, 3 years, internship: 1 year, work experience: 2 years and recruiters are starting to lowball salaries for the little jobs that are out there. After 5 years of investing into my skills, it just doesn't seem worth it. Now with AI developing websites, i'm not sure the Tech market will ever go back to what it was.

    • @FilterChain
      @FilterChain Рік тому +4

      what you talking about there are millions of jobs - look carefully use Dev portals not linked in or shit like that

    • @lmaostrnoob
      @lmaostrnoob Рік тому +10

      I feel you exactly. 8 years at a software engineer just for the market to go to shit and them offer half your old salary with more experience 😂 shit ass industry

    • @Kaito15132
      @Kaito15132 Рік тому +3

      ​@gabrielpauna62 is there any you would recommend looking into?

    • @eg4933
      @eg4933 Рік тому +1

      what you want to get paid $100k doing front-end work and half-assed javascript?? get out of here idiot.

    • @manofsteel9051
      @manofsteel9051 8 місяців тому

      ​@@lmaostrnoobgood. Tech workers have been overpaid for far too long. Enjoy minimum wage😂

  • @hasanmahbub-ulkarim602
    @hasanmahbub-ulkarim602 Рік тому +51

    Too much people are entering into tech field which is not good for everybody.

  • @synen
    @synen Рік тому +41

    Senior Developer for a major cruise company, got laid off last week, first time ever. As a whole, it's pretty bad out there, got it tell it like it is.

    • @Turnpost2552
      @Turnpost2552 Рік тому

      All because you got fired doesnt mean its bad out there. It orobably because you just suck.

    • @cyborg9082
      @cyborg9082 Рік тому

      Did you find work ?

    • @mostofamojlish8255
      @mostofamojlish8255 Рік тому +1

      It’s hard to land a job now . I hope nobody lost there job now .

    • @manofsteel9051
      @manofsteel9051 8 місяців тому

      Coding is piss easy. Anyone idiot can do it. Learn things that are difficult like real engineering

    • @synen
      @synen 8 місяців тому

      @@cyborg9082Still nothing.

  • @JulioReguero
    @JulioReguero Рік тому +20

    In Silicon Valley where I live, the market for Product Designer roles is out of whack. It used to take me no more than 1-2 months passively looking for a senior position to get multiple job offers. Now you’re lucky if you get 1 job interview out of 100+ applications. Hundreds of applicants for a single job posting, which in many cases the hiring manager keeps reposting over and over.

  • @thegixlad27
    @thegixlad27 Рік тому +96

    Bruh, the entire employment industry is on the verge of collapse

    • @Serensive
      @Serensive Рік тому +15

      It’s sad, I have no hope for humanity

    • @dieglhix
      @dieglhix Рік тому +8

      @@Serensive Same, I won't have kids

    • @PredatorPeyami
      @PredatorPeyami Рік тому +3

      @@dieglhix my wife wants one, but i dont know really

    • @pjorgen
      @pjorgen Рік тому +31

      Many of my friends are going homeless or jobless. They’re all in their 20s.

    • @dieglhix
      @dieglhix Рік тому +5

      @@PredatorPeyami Be cautious, try to avoid insemination.

  • @bhutchin1996
    @bhutchin1996 Рік тому +45

    I just took a regular non-tech job that was offered to me, but I'm also doing a website for a freelance client, and when I'm done with that, I'm volunteering my web dev skills to an organization. Basically, over the years recruiters and companies have been looking for developers who have built sites for others. Without that, it's nigh impossible to get a job in this field.

    • @ewtwetrwerwteet
      @ewtwetrwerwteet Рік тому +7

      i love development but HATE working in the field for others. they have no clue and either squeeze everyone too hard or not at all (waste resources)

    • @halfbakedproductions7887
      @halfbakedproductions7887 Рік тому +1

      @@ewtwetrwerwteet I'm the other way round. Absolutely hate working on code by myself or recreationally, but got along mostly alright when working as part of a team developing an actual product.

  • @boot-strapper
    @boot-strapper Рік тому +24

    I used to be able to get a job in about a week, even pre pandemic. Now, per 100 applications I get maybe 1 call back, of those, I get maybe 1/10 interviews, of that I have yet to find a position. 8.5 years of experience in webdev. Very scary.

    • @techcoa
      @techcoa Рік тому

      ~100 applications in right now, 1.3 years of experience, and not a single call back. I have an optimized resume for ATS but I don’t do any cover letters. Do you do cover letters?

    • @boot-strapper
      @boot-strapper Рік тому +1

      @@techcoa I dont generally unless I think its an exceptional fit and I want to increase my chances to the max. At this point I'm thinking I just do leetcode until my head explodes and then get into faang, since that might be about the same chances as what im doing now. I know for instance that meta will be hiring 5000 engineers over the next few months.

    • @dieglhix
      @dieglhix Рік тому +8

      @@techcoa don't waste time with cover letters, nobody reads them.

    • @FilterChain
      @FilterChain Рік тому +1

      @@boot-strapper why meta why not a smaller sme ?

    • @boot-strapper
      @boot-strapper Рік тому +1

      @@FilterChain Like I said, I just know meta is doing a big hiring push because of thread's success. I have no preference and am applying to chuck e cheese at this point. Just gotta pay the bills.

  • @FernandoRodrigues-gr9yt
    @FernandoRodrigues-gr9yt Рік тому +33

    I have about two years of experience with full-stack development, I've been jobless for 7 months, and it seems almost impossible to get a job. Every job opportunity gets hundreds of applications within 2-3 days, and even for entry-level positions there are a lot of seniors applying, things are tough.

    • @looksmatteronly
      @looksmatteronly Рік тому +7

      McDonald's always hiring

    • @matseddyjambon
      @matseddyjambon Рік тому +9

      I feel you. I applied for a job that had over 500 applicants. I just backed off and decided to look for underrated jobs.

    • @looksmatteronly
      @looksmatteronly Рік тому

      @@matseddyjambon McDonald's

    • @FernandoRodrigues-gr9yt
      @FernandoRodrigues-gr9yt Рік тому

      @@matseddyjambon yeah there's some tools like looking at Linkedin Posts instead of job openings section and look for low applicants jobs

    • @davidnoble1477
      @davidnoble1477 Рік тому +3

      Whereabouts in America are you seeing this?

  • @Matt-m3y-r4u
    @Matt-m3y-r4u Рік тому +24

    It’s not “dead” but there are many applicants per job opening, and a lot of people with experience with whom you’ll have a tough time competing with if you’re a newbie. Also, too many employers are unrealistic or take advantage of the large pool of applicants; a “junior developer” position with 2 or 3 years of experience as a requirement, as well as knowing a handful of technologies, and all of that for a rather unimpressive wage or salary.

    • @llothar68
      @llothar68 Рік тому

      But seriously, 2 or 3 years experience is the minimum when you just left university before you can call yourself qualified. What do people think today? THat they are specialists with 25 years age? Fuck this generation Z.

    • @manofsteel9051
      @manofsteel9051 8 місяців тому

      Learn to weld

  • @kevingrems
    @kevingrems Рік тому +15

    Stick a fork in it. The tech job market is officially dead in 2023. No more jobs 😢

  • @kennethkwan8805
    @kennethkwan8805 Рік тому +14

    I've been out of a job since last December, while trying to get my foot in the door into information technology. A lot of postings I see ask for crazy requirements and company reviews point to a lack of training or care for their entry level employees. Seems that the common strategy is to just take an entry level employee in for a year, and then swap them out for a fresh graduate. I'm trying my best to stay positive, but the scaling costs of living is quickly evaporating my optimism, given how long it has been. For anyone out there still searching, I hope you find something sooner than later, and that it's somewhere that can take your skillset to where you want it to be.

  • @wylelias
    @wylelias Рік тому +30

    Look for roles around software to get foot in the door. Support and automation roles are great for this and the pay isn’t all that bad either.

    • @mfc1190
      @mfc1190 Рік тому +7

      My first gig came as a role as a research tech in a wet / dry computational biology lab. I had Linux and python experience from school and after a year and a half turned that into my first SE role. Still going strong!

  • @ibrahimzende6968
    @ibrahimzende6968 Рік тому +22

    I’ve applied in more than 300 companies , I did only 1 interview and it was bad , I keep trying

    • @Dipj01
      @Dipj01 Рік тому +1

      Did you find one?

    • @ibrahimzende6968
      @ibrahimzende6968 Рік тому

      not yet ... i am still learning and try to freelance@@Dipj01

    • @manofsteel9051
      @manofsteel9051 Рік тому +1

      Give up. Tech is dead

    • @limitless1692
      @limitless1692 11 місяців тому

      ibrahimzende6968
      That is rockie numbers,
      I applied to over 900 jobs (some jobs at different companies, some jobs at the same company)
      Took me 12 monts. And I still did not get a job in Tech. I quited a long time ago, and moved to a different industry.

    • @manofsteel9051
      @manofsteel9051 11 місяців тому

      @@limitless1692 what was your degree in?

  • @jidec3165
    @jidec3165 Рік тому +17

    I’m from the UK and companies here want to hire very experienced developers and pay as low as possible. I’ve have a lot of experience and just put up my CV last weekend and I’ve got a lot of calls and emails already. Employers and recruiters all search for the most experienced people first. Also, in the UK I’ve noticed not many opportunities in tech are offering sponsorships so people who have the skill and experience but not the permission to work are filtered out quickly unfortunately.

    • @Matt-m3y-r4u
      @Matt-m3y-r4u Рік тому +6

      Same in the US, and probably many other countries. “Junior” dev jobs that pay $20-22 per hour, require 2/3 years of experience, knowing 2 or 3 programming languages and at least as many libraries or frameworks. Sorry, that’s not a “Junior” position! Employers know there’s a ton of solid candidates out there, they’re fully taking advantage of it.

    • @cy3889
      @cy3889 Рік тому +1

      @@Matt-m3y-r4u they are and its saddening, it takes dedication and time to learning ALL these frameworks and languages. i was once asked to design a whole system, and build it with the features that fixed issues they were facing in the company... for an interview! lol like WTF?

    • @JulioReguero
      @JulioReguero Рік тому

      Refuse to work for peanuts. Know your value in the marketplace and have a salary range in mind to negotiate when the opportunity arises.

    • @davidnoble1477
      @davidnoble1477 Рік тому

      UK tech salaries are pretty poor at the best of times, so during a recession they're gonna be dreadful.

    • @halfbakedproductions7887
      @halfbakedproductions7887 Рік тому +1

      I'm in the UK and thinking about leaving the tech industry. There's very little that's truly keeping my fire going and the few things that _do_ fit that bill? Again, there are about 40m people in front of me in the queue and who already have the right experience and knowledge, whereas I'd have to work damn hard.
      I might become a roadman.

  • @halfbakedproductions7887
    @halfbakedproductions7887 Рік тому +16

    I'm either about to take a massive sidestep or leave tech entirely. I'm not happy with what I'm doing and want something different. It feels like the tech market is on its backside and if you've specialised in the 'wrong' thing you are screwed. Then there's AI that seems set to take over everything.
    In the UK we've had the same propaganda drive to get everyone into "coding" and "cybersecurity", which has absolutely saturated the bottom end of the market and diluted the talent pool for the more senior and experienced roles.
    Maybe it's a good time to go? I'm very fortunate in that I've worked on a number of decent projects and have non-tech transferable skills.

    • @ramonsanchezperez897
      @ramonsanchezperez897 Рік тому +3

      yes, my guy., honestly I will just abandon this thing, I at least I feel that all those hundreds of algos and all that math I got taught made me think very creatively but I can't be doing nothing (without a job) I will just go into the trades and try to work my way up create my own company and get a good living which is the reason why everyone is into tech nowadays anyway, funny thing is a really enjoyed learning and solving all those problems and building and reading all those project, but so goes life and so goes capitalism.

    • @victorray9369
      @victorray9369 Рік тому +2

      I quit job last year and started my own business. Very difficult to get a good paying jobs now a days.

    • @redpillsatori3020
      @redpillsatori3020 Рік тому

      Then there are going be a bunch of people in the 3rd-world taking remote work. I'm in Philippines now and can compete by demanding a lower salary especially since I'm American and a native English speaker

  • @Venturi11
    @Venturi11 Рік тому +8

    and if you can't feed your kids, don't worry about it, money isn't real. they can eat in a couple years when the job market picks up

  • @matt112fly
    @matt112fly Рік тому +7

    the job market is pretty awful right now..

  • @somethinginteresting01
    @somethinginteresting01 Рік тому +9

    I would say with all certainty that the job market is over due to outsourcing! this topic is complicated but that sums it up.

    • @Михаил-ъ6ъ5е
      @Михаил-ъ6ъ5е Рік тому +2

      Я в стране аутсорса, у нас всё ещё хуже...

    • @shegade8567
      @shegade8567 Рік тому +1

      Yep. I got laid off earlier this year and the company hired a guy in Argentina to replace me for half what they were paying me lol.

    • @limitless1692
      @limitless1692 11 місяців тому

      somethinginteresting01
      So people who live in first word countries are screwd.
      It only makes sense to work as a software developer if you live in a third word country, and you pay the rent and you spend the money on your cost of living in that region.

  • @johndoggett4657
    @johndoggett4657 Рік тому +6

    Dice is a really good site. Helped me out a lot my last job search.

  • @TheWealthyPlace2024
    @TheWealthyPlace2024 Рік тому +11

    How about entry level jobs for those that just graduated?

    • @limitless1692
      @limitless1692 11 місяців тому +1

      jcs-wordsofexpressions6640
      You are soo naive hoping for a job in Tech after you graduated!
      Think about it, if people with 5years, 10years or more of experience can not find a job!!
      How will a student with ZERO years of experience will ever find a job?!?!
      Am I right or am I right?!

  • @mova_2020
    @mova_2020 Рік тому +13

    I don’t agree w you for the most part. First, companies have laid off a lot more than what they hired during the boom! Now everyone is fearing of getting into recession and yes it will happen. I don’t understand why authorities say we are not in recession. To me is like we are already in recession since early 2022 so is almost 2 years! Not sure when this mess ends honestly.
    I haven’t been laid off and I have over 15 years of exp in tech and currently working at one of these giant famous companies you mentioned but things do NOT look good. I have started looking for a change in the past 6-7 months and I haven’t even gotten an interview!!! This is BS.

  • @signaljobs7184
    @signaljobs7184 Рік тому +8

    As a recruiting company We were doing a quick search for job market analysis coming into 2024 and 2025. This was one of the better explanations as to how to understand and prepare for career moves within the next few years. Thanks for sharing 👏

    • @Adam-kk7nw
      @Adam-kk7nw Рік тому +4

      Ur causing the economy go into great depression..please bro stop

  • @matthewsmith4162
    @matthewsmith4162 Рік тому +3

    Awesome content Stefan

  • @RedJoker9000
    @RedJoker9000 Рік тому +4

    The issue is with online hire, you'll see something like 200+ applications and you need to show your own self off. Still, compare to those 200+ usually you are just another applications or might lack something, thus you don't get hire.

  • @smileynasty8694
    @smileynasty8694 10 місяців тому

    Currently a student in cybersecurity but Im still in the beginning of my education and I’m now reconsidering switching to the medical field due to the job market becoming competitive/saturated

  • @jefferymuter4659
    @jefferymuter4659 Рік тому +9

    How long does this tend to last, curious from the perspective of someone trying to make a Jr. position and self-taught. Do I estimate for 3 months? 6 months? A year? just curious from someone with your wizened experience who has probably seen hundreds of recessions.

    • @goldbrick2563
      @goldbrick2563 Рік тому +1

      Yeah trying to decide if i should dedicate some time to learning and how much time before jobs come back

    • @cptndunsel2670
      @cptndunsel2670 Рік тому +1

      Wondering the same thing.

    • @FilterChain
      @FilterChain Рік тому

      juniors just arnt useful , you need to know how to work teams and pipelines , know ins and outs of systems etc , due to agile cant hand off requirments to someone who will need to bother you all day and you still must do the work , personal expirence , peace

    • @jefferymuter4659
      @jefferymuter4659 Рік тому +6

      @@FilterChain I'm curious how that applies lol. Or if that's just a passive rage comment

    • @CarlosFernandez-js8yn
      @CarlosFernandez-js8yn Рік тому

      @@FilterChain then how the f are we supposed to get that experience when we are not even working on the field?

  • @JonathanTheZombie
    @JonathanTheZombie Рік тому +4

    I’m a senior engineer with a CS degree. There is always demand for more CS, especially senior engineers. I think the biggest challenge is for those with bootcamp-only education, and who lack actual engineering knowledge. Sorry fellers, but web coding is extremely high level abstraction on the core technologies that software engineers build. It’s not gatekeeping, it’s an actual lack of knowledge and skill. So go learn that stuff and stack those skills! You will go so much further than the other web devs out there

    • @limitless1692
      @limitless1692 11 місяців тому

      So what are you saying?
      Are you saying that I need to go to University to be able to qualify as a Software Engineer?

    • @howtopassthat
      @howtopassthat 10 місяців тому +1

      @@limitless1692 yes

  • @riacharda
    @riacharda Рік тому +1

    Thanks for the encouragement 🙂

  • @radupopescu2370
    @radupopescu2370 Рік тому +11

    They hired a tone of cheap wanna be developers that were made by online tutorials and don't know the basics of computer science. This is the result, all those are overloading the job market and this needs to stop. You become a software/hardware tech if you actually know what's needed at the level you're applying. I'm not worried, and neither are all those like me that own their knowledge. It's a good thing, people should do what they actually love and are good at, because it will bring the best in them.

    • @jackboy2472
      @jackboy2472 Рік тому +2

      Don’t hate becoming they took the cheaper route

    • @radupopescu2370
      @radupopescu2370 Рік тому

      @@jackboy2472 there is no cheaper route to this. Either you have accumulated all that mandatory knowledge, or you're better off doing something you're actually good at.

  • @BizzaroBrainBoi
    @BizzaroBrainBoi Рік тому

    Thank you for the optimistic video Stefan

  • @Kerwell
    @Kerwell Рік тому +4

    Entry positions are hard as fuck. I still can’t even get an interview, let alone a job. Just keep telling myself it’ll be my time, but Christ

    • @boshhh123
      @boshhh123 Рік тому

      whats your portfolio looking like?

  • @chacmool2581
    @chacmool2581 Рік тому +1

    I see a lot of folks in the comments here suggesting AI. I am not a developer or programmer, but I do have a degree in Data Science. Don't fool themselves, AI can be math intensive, and it's not trivial math. Do you have the math (Stats, Calc and Linear Algebra) stomach for it? Coding is the wheels, mathematics is the actual engine and the fuel.

    • @AIRRAZOR44
      @AIRRAZOR44 Рік тому +1

      Understanding A.I tools will be a huge requirement in the coming years much like the birth of mainstream internet in the mid 90's

  • @AIRRAZOR44
    @AIRRAZOR44 Рік тому +1

    It's still pretty bad for those who never held a Senior title or have less than 5 years of exp. Most job posts require .NET, Java, Python knowledge further tightening the bottleneck. Gen Z has already caught on & have pivoted companies outside of Big Tech. I expect layoffs to continue until the U.S. Fed interest rate sharply plummets
    Looking for local roles at smaller companies / start ups seems like the best play besides applying to fortune 500 companies

    • @StefanMischook
      @StefanMischook  Рік тому

      Chasing after the FANG jobs is fine, but why not do as you said, go for the smaller company jobs. News: 70-80% of jobs are at small businesses.

    • @jonasbaine3538
      @jonasbaine3538 Рік тому

      The interest rate won’t drop until major collapse. Meanwhile banks are making huge profits on high interest.

  • @tikigodsrule2317
    @tikigodsrule2317 Рік тому +11

    I figured last place to be was the silicon valley where the largest number of unemployed tech workers. were Look to small tech areas no one want to live. I was hired by Cisco in Raleigh NC. It's hard for companies to find qualified people where no one wants to live like Texas, Ohio, NC....= Less competition.

    • @adrian-4767
      @adrian-4767 Рік тому

      tikigodsrule2317 why no one wants to live in Texas?

    • @tikigodsrule2317
      @tikigodsrule2317 Рік тому +1

      @@adrian-4767 hot, tornados,power outages, super high property tax , crime, ... food is great

    • @adrian-4767
      @adrian-4767 Рік тому

      @@tikigodsrule2317 wow thank you, and what's the problem with Ohio and NC? (I don't know what NC means)

    • @RoninX33
      @RoninX33 Рік тому

      @@adrian-4767 North Carolina

    • @tikigodsrule2317
      @tikigodsrule2317 Рік тому +2

      @@RoninX33 NC has Research Triangle Park or Commonly called RTP. Lots of tech there.

  • @michaelovadiyah659
    @michaelovadiyah659 Рік тому +1

    I just got my first job as a WordPress programmér. It doesn’t pay very much but I figure after one year of experience that might change my entire career.

    • @StefanMischook
      @StefanMischook  Рік тому

      Bingo! You are being paid to learn! Congratulations!

  • @craigwoollett2523
    @craigwoollett2523 11 місяців тому

    thanks stefan

  • @dieglhix
    @dieglhix Рік тому +5

    CISSP ISSAP CCSP CISM here, unemployed for 4 months lol.

  • @encapsule2220
    @encapsule2220 Рік тому +4

    I finally got a thru all the rounds for a job application and next step is the interview, however pay is a bit low. If interview goes well and i get an offer should I just take it and get some experience? I live in LA and their pay range 35% lower than average for the position. I'm really having a hard time deciding, I thought maybe i could just put the offer on hold for a week to see if i get any more responses from my job applications. Not sure what to do, any advice is appreciated!

    • @JulioReguero
      @JulioReguero Рік тому +2

      Negotiate, counter the job offer. Be realistic. Take the job no matter what and keep looking for a job that pays you the salary you want.

    • @encapsule2220
      @encapsule2220 Рік тому +1

      @@JulioReguero i didnt get the job 😂, im at 250 apps and the grind is disgusting at this point but what can i do haha

  • @ledigdev
    @ledigdev Рік тому +1

    Serious question
    If money isnt the problem (i mean a huge business that will spend what it need to solve their problem fast)
    Why would any enterprise employe a junior dev? I just dont see a why
    If i am business owner and want to do X technology fast and secure i would pay a senior dev to do that
    Why ever a company would hire a junior dev? Becaus only de money motivator is not so convicing for me

    • @davidnoble1477
      @davidnoble1477 Рік тому +2

      Very telling that nobody has actually come up with an answer to this.

    • @igniortix
      @igniortix Рік тому +1

      Junior workers in general bring new ideas to the table and are more likely to adapt to new technologies and ways of doing things. They might be more enthusiastic about the job and complain less

    • @AIRRAZOR44
      @AIRRAZOR44 Рік тому

      Jrs are relatively easy to mold & grow with the company rather than a senior who most likely hit their ceiling & may seek to rest n vest in Google or Microsoft or leave to start their own company. There are pros & cons to hiring Jrs / Srs - many seniors were fired in Big Tech over the last 4 years

    • @redpillsatori3020
      @redpillsatori3020 Рік тому +1

      Because you can hire them do grunt work, and write simple functions and APIs that Sr. devs don't want to do--often at a fraction of the cost, and especially if they are working remotely in the 3rd-world

  • @gordonharlow4373
    @gordonharlow4373 11 місяців тому

    I am an older but seasoned c#, SQL Server developer. Posted my resume 4 months ago. Applied for many in so cal. CRICKETS!
    Perhaps AI and ML stuff, but there is a LOT of hype there. Reminds me of the late 90's.
    For now anyway there are virtually no software positions available.
    2024 does not bode better.
    Maybe it is time to write a killer app and stop working for big companies?

  • @lonniejohnson9185
    @lonniejohnson9185 Рік тому +1

    Prior loan officer who was laid off due to the spike in rates and lack of demand. Went through a bootcamp and have a completed portfolio but still finding a hard time with get a software development job in Houston. C#, SQL, and Angular is my mix. Should i continue networking, get another degree but this one in computer science? Feedback is appreciated.

    • @PredatorPeyami
      @PredatorPeyami Рік тому +3

      dont bother with degree its too risky

    • @nightskylights
      @nightskylights Рік тому +1

      Network every day, apply every day you already invested in a bootcamp which would teach you more practical stuff than a computer science degree. As of RIGHT NOW, a computer science degree will not make you a better candidate in this market. I think after some more months of this and you feel you can do a different job + school maybe consider a degree, but it won't guarantee you a job. Lots of people with degrees in these videos also not getting calls back
      Maybe, do volunteer or freelance projects to add to your portfolio in meantime as you work another job and then go from there after some months of trying this to see the school route? Just ideas

    • @limitless1692
      @limitless1692 11 місяців тому

      lonniejohnson9185
      Tech Industry is in the toilet...
      Frankly I applied to hundreds of jobs, and did not got hired. I know my stack well.
      You may want to pray to god, or hope for a miracle at this poit.

  • @CrisCozy
    @CrisCozy Рік тому +6

    Honestly,
    I’m self taught iOS dev. I stopped and started using low code no code tools and got 1 app complete in 3 days. And it works on both platforms. I’m no longer interested in applying for iOS dev jobs. I’m keeping my day job and working on a micro saas company. Here’s a quote I read recently.
    Emad Mostaque, founder and CEO of Stability AI, has a provocative prediction as artificial intelligence (AI) increasingly transforms our world: "There will be no programmers in five years.

    • @AZ-rg3rf
      @AZ-rg3rf Рік тому +5

      That quote is the stupidest I've read. They've been saying the same since the 1980s!

    • @CrisCozy
      @CrisCozy Рік тому

      @@AZ-rg3rf Screen shot your comment for the future.

  • @Viezieg
    @Viezieg Рік тому +58

    just had a 5 hour long interview. i sure hope its alive :D

    • @encapsule2220
      @encapsule2220 Рік тому +6

      wtfff 5 hours? what did u do?

    • @dharris6228
      @dharris6228 Рік тому +4

      What kind of interview is that

    • @Viezieg
      @Viezieg Рік тому +12

      @@encapsule2220 at first i had a conversation with the boss and then for the next 3.5 hours i spoke with the senior developer who didnt mind answering various questions about the job and coding in general and who just kept on talking and talking.

    • @-Engineering01-
      @-Engineering01- Рік тому

      ​@@Viezieg did any leet code ?

    • @elvissam1401
      @elvissam1401 Рік тому +2

      Good luck, hope You get the job!

  • @archimedesbird3439
    @archimedesbird3439 11 місяців тому +1

    Yes, it is. It absolutely is.

  • @ktils
    @ktils Рік тому +3

    Yeah it's pretty bad out here.

  • @hichamamroussi9087
    @hichamamroussi9087 Рік тому

    Any advice for a Project based interview for a Front end React role?

  • @Brlitzkreig
    @Brlitzkreig Рік тому +2

    Mr Stef I’d love to see a video on your take on AI

  • @Kakshi99
    @Kakshi99 Рік тому

    So is this an issue that considers the us job market or is it worldwide?

    • @limitless1692
      @limitless1692 11 місяців тому

      This is the end of high end jobs.
      Software Develpers are bocoming another slave job with bullshit pay.
      Hell you can make more money after doing a trade school at this point!!!!
      I am not even joking! I am serious!

  • @itsrelativ3967
    @itsrelativ3967 Рік тому +3

    Another oversaturated industry

  • @cosmincraciun3769
    @cosmincraciun3769 Рік тому +4

    Hello Stefan!
    Should I learn PHP + Laravel to get a job in 5-6 months or React Js + Vue ?
    I have basic knowledge of front-end development and CMS platforms as Wordpress.
    Where do you think are better oportunities for remote entry level jobs?
    PS: I can take the Front-end development certification from META, maybe it can help stand out and finding React jobs. On php, I do not have a good certification option.

    • @wengyin3365
      @wengyin3365 Рік тому

      depend on luck

    • @limitless1692
      @limitless1692 11 місяців тому

      cosmincraciun3769
      You want to find a job in 5-6 months?
      Are you dreaming!!!! You may be lucky if you find a job after 5 years or 6 years.
      You must be an expert in this technilogies. And even then, there are no guaranties. Tech is a bulshit industry that does not guaranty job security.

  • @matseddyjambon
    @matseddyjambon Рік тому +2

    I'm from Montreal, Canada. I finished a 3 year program in College in which I specialized myself in UX and UI design. I was kind of aware of the frenzy around this job but I never thought it was that huge when I started to apply.
    Since I'm a newbie in tech, I felt really stuck and I decided to put UX design aside and apply to other tech jobs.
    I just hope to get something at this point. I'll visit the Dice website though.

    • @usmanali7702
      @usmanali7702 Рік тому

      I'm looking to enroll in a web development graduate certificate at a college in Canada so I can move there and get a job as a fullstack developer. Is this a bad time to do it? I have two years experience as mern developer in Pakistan.

    • @matseddyjambon
      @matseddyjambon Рік тому

      As a developer, you should be safe but start applying as soon as possible@@usmanali7702

    • @taizai8292
      @taizai8292 Рік тому

      @@usmanali7702 My son has done his BSs in software engineering from University of Toronto with a GPA of 3.5. He is looking for an entry level job since mid 2022. No success. I would suggest trying Germany with the caveat that you learn German also. The chance of getting a job and settling will be better than Canada, where the IT job market has collapsed.

    • @limitless1692
      @limitless1692 11 місяців тому

      @@usmanali7702
      Just don't...
      The Tech Industry is in the toilet right now,
      and with the evolution of AI Artificial Inteligence, many coding jobs will be Automated

  • @AK-kq1mk
    @AK-kq1mk Рік тому +3

    3421 jobs that are mostly senior, fake, or from agencies... How can you say so much yet say so little. Useless

  • @JustThinkingAboutIt
    @JustThinkingAboutIt Рік тому +2

    I personally believe that if you are someone who's an experienced worker and you learn how to become a coder or programmer that you will be just fine. Your work experience coupled with your new skills that you've acquired will definitely make you someone who will be in demand by many employers.

    • @StefanMischook
      @StefanMischook  Рік тому

      Well said!

    • @limitless1692
      @limitless1692 11 місяців тому

      JustThinkingAboutIt
      I do believe too that unicorns fart rainbow farts.
      Is my belief true?

  • @rverm1000
    @rverm1000 Рік тому

    Seems to be alot of Java jobs in Raleigh nc. The job market seems to be picking up here in spite of what the rest of the economy is doing.

  • @prophet_bestman
    @prophet_bestman Рік тому

    Hello Uncle Stef. I really appreciate your content. However, it seems finding a job from my part of the world proves to be more challenging. I have had over 2 years of experience as a Frontend developer and I have worked with several companies and on several projects that I think should make my portfolio and resume worth the attention of a recruiter, but I don't even get invited for interview. Some say I'm looking at the wrong places that I should find Jobs within the EMEA region and stuff like that. I don't know how to go about this but it seems the rules are different here

    • @StefanMischook
      @StefanMischook  Рік тому +1

      First, don't give up because you already completed the hard part by getting the first 2 years of XPs. I would suggest learning some backend on the side as you continue to refine your job searching. By learning backend, you will expand the job possibilities hugely!

  • @edwardcasas2137
    @edwardcasas2137 5 місяців тому

    It is a cycle, business environment is cyclical. It will be bad today and good tomorrow. It is a fact of economics.

  • @rik9833
    @rik9833 Рік тому

    4:03 any idea when?

  • @DavidWallace1945
    @DavidWallace1945 Рік тому

    hi , i'm a backend developer and i have a little bit skill in frotend
    and now i want to start freelancing as a backend developer but i can't any backend project
    alot of people are looking for wordpress developers or fullstack
    what do you recommend to me??
    pls answer guys i need your guide

    • @PredatorPeyami
      @PredatorPeyami Рік тому +1

      hello pair with some frontend guy?

    • @trapbois4573
      @trapbois4573 Рік тому

      Its like when you have a sandwich right? Sandwich needs only two slice of bread. But when u dont have 2 slices, only 1 slice then wut you du? You cut the slice of bread you have in half. That gives you half a sandwitch. You dont have the other slice, so you arent a full stack developer.

  • @sjpt1434
    @sjpt1434 Рік тому +2

    You became Financial Analyst :)

  • @fallinloveatfirstdream4222
    @fallinloveatfirstdream4222 Рік тому +5

    Whoa, hold up! Let's talk about this funky twist! So, you know what's really discouraging? The fact that the whole world is being perceived as this depends on countries in need of constant help, while countries like the US, with all their money and power, are the ones who'll supposedly lend a helping hand. But here's the kicker - the main point is, why should a single country, the US in this case, have control over the entire global financial system and dictate to others while dealing with their own centuries-old human catastrophes and bullying tendencies?
    It's just embarrassing to see how they come in with their haughty lectures about how a country should be run. We've transformed from zero to today's one thousand percent leave (point), and we're heading toward a future where we'll become a sea. But here's the catch, we need to take control of our future ourselves, not let others dictate our fate. So, let's not wait for others to tell us what to do. Let's shape our own future, be our own captains! 😄

  • @onyekachiemeka6255
    @onyekachiemeka6255 Рік тому +5

    C# is the King in UK

    • @elite.1
      @elite.1 Рік тому +1

      I'm learning c# now hope this is true😂 gives me hope

    • @thekalakid
      @thekalakid Рік тому

      Source?

    • @boshhh123
      @boshhh123 Рік тому +1

      yeah and react/Vue/Angular it seems

  • @francisgg7046
    @francisgg7046 Рік тому +9

    There are plenty of high paying senior jobs.
    There are virtually no junior to mid level jobs.
    You're going to have to create non trivial projects in your spare time to become a senior and then get hired.

    • @BrianWisti
      @BrianWisti Рік тому +1

      Plenty of *listings* for high paying senior jobs. On the senior end of things myself, and a fair chunk of those listings are placeholders that close and reopen every couple of months. But your advice still stands.

    • @cy3889
      @cy3889 Рік тому +9

      Sad but true, what a joke this industry has become

    • @limitless1692
      @limitless1692 11 місяців тому

      francisgg7046
      So until then I will not eat and not pay rent.
      And maybe after years and years of wasting my time doing this trivial projects I will still not get a job.
      That will be the cherry on this cake of shit hopes. I hate what Tech is, a bullshit industry with bullshit jobs.

  • @mr.random8447
    @mr.random8447 Рік тому

    Interest are going to increase more, so its going to get worse

  • @ruslan_yefimov
    @ruslan_yefimov Рік тому

    American job market is ducked and that's a fact.
    I just have UK to compare it with - you can get 5 interviews in a day easily there.

  • @Turnpost2552
    @Turnpost2552 Рік тому

    Yes STEF I KNOW ENGLISH!!!!!! Soft Skills seriously.....

  • @Wulk
    @Wulk Рік тому

    Welp the wherehouse I'm at is not that bad I guess 😭

  • @SuranjanaVlogsUSA
    @SuranjanaVlogsUSA Рік тому +2

    It’s very very bad specially for immigrants in stem

  • @danielshchyokin3047
    @danielshchyokin3047 Рік тому

    yes

  • @ohwow2074
    @ohwow2074 Рік тому +9

    Learn Ruby and never get laid off

    • @elite.1
      @elite.1 Рік тому +8

      It's not that high on-demand nowadays

    • @dieglhix
      @dieglhix Рік тому +6

      survivorship bias, same was said about cybersecurity.

  • @steveoc64
    @steveoc64 Рік тому

    With all due respect Stefan - the tech job market has not changed at all, for 40 years straight. It has been remarkably consistent.
    There has always been strong demand for programmers. Every single company out there is interested in finding a technical edge, and they want programmers and engineers to make it happen. There is always more demand than there are people to fill the spots. It has never dipped, and the skillset needed to work in this area has remained remarkably constant for at least 40 years. Its like Groundhog Day, every day.
    Then there is the secondary market that is a byproduct of tech. It's all the data entry clerks, the typists, the administrators, the support staff, the web developers, excel users, HR staff, general sales, customer support etc. For 40 years, the ratio has always been anything between 10-1, to 100-1, to 1000-1 of tail support to engineer. At least.
    Demand for people in this tail / support market is pretty massive, but the wages are nothing special, and the skillsets change every few years. It is cheap and fast to pump out new bodies to fit the evolving needs, because getting up to speed with the latest trends is relatively simple. Companies can ramp up quickly to fill demand, and also drop headcount quickly when it's no longer needed.
    This does not affect the programmer / enigneer jobs though. During a headcount downturn, what is typically happening is that a technology wave is coming to an end, so companies ramp up on programmers so they can accelerate their entry into the next wave. Demand for programmers gets stronger during this dip, whilst tail support struggle to find work.
    Note that "Web Development" falls squarely in this category, as does 90% of application development jobs. This is clearly whats happening now, as the "Web Development" trend is fading out to obscurity. The race is on to get with the next wave.
    Its interesting to note the number of comments below from a lot of ppl that have ridden the last tech wave pretty well as web developers, and are now surprised to find that there are "no jobs in tech". This is completely not unexpected.

    • @elijah4840
      @elijah4840 Рік тому +2

      What are the titles of the jobs you’re referring to that don’t haven’t taken a hit?

    • @limitless1692
      @limitless1692 11 місяців тому

      @@elijah4840
      He is talking out of his a$$.
      Because he is still having a well paing job.
      Internet is full of this types of clowns

  • @aaronmcquaid
    @aaronmcquaid Рік тому

    It is dead bro. Its dead and gone.

  • @jaymartinez311
    @jaymartinez311 Рік тому +1

    everybody complaining on here like this man is the portal for all our jobless frustrations but remember he is just a messenger. If you got through the recession of 2009 and spent nearly three years to get a job after, you shouldn’t be complaining. Whatever you did back than. If your to young to remember, my advice is suck it up, put on your thinking cap and have some AI sharpen your skills but I’m seeing many people in these comments trying to kill the messenger and I’m sure this person who i’ve followed for years is fine on his side 😂 so keep the complaining to yourselves! I got furloughed last year from a $97k job and I’d take a web development job for $55k doing anything right now! 500 applications, 30 interviews later and nothing. Your not a right culture fit they say but here I am. Grow thicker skin or go do something else! AI isn’t here to take our jobs, it’s here to make us more money than you could ever imagine! Think iron man with his AI. I wish you all the best. Happy job hunting 😃

    • @limitless1692
      @limitless1692 11 місяців тому

      Of course Stefan Mischook is fine...
      He makes a ton of money selling coding course and dreams and hopes to naive individuals who think they can learn to code in 3 months and make a 300,000 salary.

  • @GwendolynAnderson-e1m
    @GwendolynAnderson-e1m Рік тому

    Эта игра однозначно лучшая😆

    • @StefanMischook
      @StefanMischook  Рік тому +1

      That's what she said .... in Russian I believe?

  • @limitless1692
    @limitless1692 11 місяців тому

    DISLIKE
    Where did you get the info that alot of the layofs are not programmers but that only managers got fired.
    Because I checked your description and you do not have the resource that you pulled this essential observation from.
    My hunch is that you are lying and you pulled this info out of thin air.

    • @StefanMischook
      @StefanMischook  11 місяців тому +1

      I went into a trance and spoke to my spirit guide and it informed me of the specifics of the market.

  • @noebenjaminreynosoaguirre1565

    kotlin