Outstanding Review! Your very thorough review was information dense, well spoken, fair & balanced, detailed and informative. I appreciate your thoughts and efforts in producing an excellent product review. I liked your side by side comparison of you wearing 2 different Arc'teryx jackets while putting your hands above your head & moving; great visual comparison. I also appreciated your thoughts on sizing. Thanks Will!
hey there! amazing review! i'll be going to iceland in september, expecting good amount of rain. I live in Seattle, so I would love to repurpose my rain jacket to future hikes in the area. The price is bugging me. What other options would you recommend?
will you be doing a review on or do you have thoughts on the new Beta Lightweight. It's getting a lot of good reviews. A lot like the lT but it has an internal chest pocket!
My main question is; if the revised beta has a 80d construction throughout, wouldn’t that make it more durable against general wear and outdoor use compared to the AR’s 40/80?
We are going on an Alaskan cruise in June with what I’m told is going to require waterproof layers. The weather is rainy, since that area is considered rainforest. We will be hiking. Which jacket would you recommend? I want breathable, dry, not bulky and longevity. I’m not opting for the PFC free.
Thanks for the review, Will! Have you tried the Proton Hybrid before, I saw it's on sale and considered buying it, but it seems to be a relatively niche line. Not sure how versatile it is, and maybe I should go with the more mainstream line like the Beta family? Most of my time is spent in SoCal...Thanks!
@@royyyywwww1111 the standard recommendation would be the atom lt. There is also the Epsilon which o want to buy to replace my atom lt but it is currently unavailable
You’d have to find it used or on a different website that still has past seasons. Alternatively, you can buy the beta ar or lt that’s on arcteryx website
I got a couple questions, hope you can answer. How often does it needs to be dwr compared to the old one? Is the new 40 - 70 for the beta lightweight more durable than the 30d non epo?
I just got this jacket, and so far so good. It was a tough buy because there were next to no reviews on it. I noticed the hood didn't bead as well so most likely have to reapply after the first wash. I also noticed its pretty loud but its my first proper hard shell and I suppose the 80d face material is the culprit. I was debating if I wanted this Beta, the LT, or the Lightweight but the 80d material and the inner pocket sold me. Hopefully it all works out
You weren't kidding about the really long sleeves, I tried it on today in store and the bunching up was ridiculous. Does the beta AR have shorter sleeves? I tried on the lt as well but it was too tight across my waist and butt.
Hi @willfaulkner If you were to choose between the beta 2023 vs 2024, which would it be? Is the 80d compared to previous 30d really a big deal when it comes to durability?
does somebody has a "sweat problem" too? in my case if i go climbing or hiking everything is nice, but if i wear it in daily use like commuting or other stuff and wear a normal hoodie underneath it i get really sweaty armpits and i normally don't have that problem? Does somebody has an solution for this problem?
Yea I had the problem too. It was due to drinking too much coffee. Might not be the same for you though. I’d recommend switching up your base layer shirt to something more breathable
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Caveat emptor!!!! I purchased 6 Arcteryx shells. All of them fell apart. All of them. I gave one as a present, it fell apart. All fell apart at the seams. They supposedly were using incorrect glues. The company does help with repairs , or money back. The price of these coats has gone through the roof. the company only reimburses for their failures at about one half the current price. I could argue their strategy either way, but i am not sure over all that it is a fair policy!!! I would buy a differnet brand if I were you.
Outstanding Review! Your very thorough review was information dense, well spoken, fair & balanced, detailed and informative. I appreciate your thoughts and efforts in producing an excellent product review. I liked your side by side comparison of you wearing 2 different Arc'teryx jackets while putting your hands above your head & moving; great visual comparison. I also appreciated your thoughts on sizing. Thanks Will!
@@gonzopaddler5996 really appreciate the support !
Thanks Will. This was very helpful. I think I'm now going to be hunting the previous Beta LT or AR for Skiing
Good move
For skiing I use the Beta SV. Perfect for it. The Beta LT and AR might not be durable enough.
I'm really contemplating this jacket for my main hardshell... please do make an update vid when you've tested further! 😀
Thanks for the review. I’ve been eyeing this jacket and the lightweight and wondered how the new version is. Looks good!
Thanks !
hey there! amazing review! i'll be going to iceland in september, expecting good amount of rain. I live in Seattle, so I would love to repurpose my rain jacket to future hikes in the area. The price is bugging me. What other options would you recommend?
@@JojoRamirez-x5i I would just use what you already have. Otherwise marmot or outdoor research have cheaper options.
will you be doing a review on or do you have thoughts on the new Beta Lightweight. It's getting a lot of good reviews. A lot like the lT but it has an internal chest pocket!
Yup planning doing review of the new lightweight soon
just watched it. thank you!@@WillFaulkner
My main question is; if the revised beta has a 80d construction throughout, wouldn’t that make it more durable against general wear and outdoor use compared to the AR’s 40/80?
Part of it has to do with the Goretex membrane. There is more to the durability than just the face fabric.
We are going on an Alaskan cruise in June with what I’m told is going to require waterproof layers. The weather is rainy, since that area is considered rainforest. We will be hiking. Which jacket would you recommend? I want breathable, dry, not bulky and longevity. I’m not opting for the PFC free.
@@heathercastillo7560 beta ar with storm hood would be my choice. If you wants cheaper option, go with beta lt
@@heathercastillo7560 sounds like an awesome trip btw !
Thanks for the review, Will! Have you tried the Proton Hybrid before, I saw it's on sale and considered buying it, but it seems to be a relatively niche line. Not sure how versatile it is, and maybe I should go with the more mainstream line like the Beta family? Most of my time is spent in SoCal...Thanks!
It really depends what you are using the jacket for. Is it to keep warm or for rain protection ?
@@WillFaulkner Thanks for the quick reply! Mostly keep warm and prevent wind, it's hard to get rain in LA
@@royyyywwww1111 the standard recommendation would be the atom lt. There is also the Epsilon which o want to buy to replace my atom lt but it is currently unavailable
@@WillFaulkner Thank you Will! Super helpful!
Hi Will . As mentioned in the video for 500 dollars there should be no compromise regarding the jacket .
Yup totally agree
Great review but did you end up using the camera audio or mic audio haha
My mic didn’t end up recording. Have had so many problems with it I’ve ordered a new mic that will be much better
Thanks for the review! Where can I still purchase the version with PFC?
You’d have to find it used or on a different website that still has past seasons. Alternatively, you can buy the beta ar or lt that’s on arcteryx website
Good video, just don’t like the revised version as much why would they take the Arcteryx logo and place it on the hood? 😅
@@Safronlemurs yea it’s not for everyone. I prefer minimal branding as well.
I have the Beta long. Is that a better and more durable jacket than this new Beta jacket? Is the long Beta basically the Beta LT or SL?
I got a couple questions, hope you can answer. How often does it needs to be dwr compared to the old one? Is the new 40 - 70 for the beta lightweight more durable than the 30d non epo?
Depends on your level of use. I’ll use usually wash mine beta ar twice a season. With the new dwr, probably 3 times a season
Yea the beta lightweight is more durable
I just got this jacket, and so far so good. It was a tough buy because there were next to no reviews on it. I noticed the hood didn't bead as well so most likely have to reapply after the first wash. I also noticed its pretty loud but its my first proper hard shell and I suppose the 80d face material is the culprit. I was debating if I wanted this Beta, the LT, or the Lightweight but the 80d material and the inner pocket sold me. Hopefully it all works out
Yea try throwing it in the dryer. Will help activate the dwr
You weren't kidding about the really long sleeves, I tried it on today in store and the bunching up was ridiculous. Does the beta AR have shorter sleeves? I tried on the lt as well but it was too tight across my waist and butt.
Yea Beta ar will work better your you, shorter and wider fit compared to the other beta jackets
@@WillFaulkner how much shorter would you say the beta AR sleeve is compared to the new beta jacket?
@@100percentMozarella seems like 2.5 to 3 inches shorter
@@WillFaulkner perfect, thank you
Hi @willfaulkner
If you were to choose between the beta 2023 vs 2024, which would it be? Is the 80d compared to previous 30d really a big deal when it comes to durability?
does somebody has a "sweat problem" too? in my case if i go climbing or hiking everything is nice, but if i wear it in daily use like commuting or other stuff and wear a normal hoodie underneath it i get really sweaty armpits and i normally don't have that problem? Does somebody has an solution for this problem?
Yea I had the problem too. It was due to drinking too much coffee. Might not be the same for you though. I’d recommend switching up your base layer shirt to something more breathable
Caveat emptor!!!! I purchased 6 Arcteryx shells. All of them fell apart. All of them. I gave one as a present, it fell apart. All fell apart at the seams. They supposedly were using incorrect glues.
The company does help with repairs , or money back. The price of these coats has gone through the roof. the company only reimburses for their failures at about one half the current price. I could argue their strategy either way, but i am not sure over all that it is a fair policy!!! I would buy a differnet brand if I were you.