As someone who absolutely hates cheese, I think smoked gouda is really good. It doesn't have the cheese smell I hate and it's nutty and flavorful. Get the good one.
3:39 I'm sure someone in chat mentioned it but you actually do see Hermes' 3D model! However it seems to be a one time thing when he first gets back from spying on Chronos and introduces the surface as an option. After that he has dialogue saying that he's going back to the mountain and will only be communicating via boon going forward
Love the explanation of what you're going for, desired attack patterns and prioritization of resources in the build! Very helpful to mere mortals like me 🙂
Imagine if the devs add build blueprints, that you can preselect before a run, and it then highlights the gods/boons as you do the run. Such a massive QoL
That sounds like the chaos trials. If they let us play the same chaos trial over again then it will satisfy those people who want to test out specific combos the devs want to highlight when ever we want.
On the subject of Cheese, there's two good ways to introduce in my opinion. a chartreuse board with multiple cheese options plenty of fruits, veg, meats, and cheese to mix and match. or melted as a fondue and have it as a cheese dip with say sliders or things on sticks (or could be put on sticks)
Oh, I like how I caught that you mentioned trying this out during a run previously and you did follow up. And I also like that I remembered you did a Zeus dash run. To put things in perspective: I never played the game, I don't even own a console 😂. All I know about the game is from watching your Vids. Although I did play Hades 1 at my friend's. So GG, keep it up. I love your Vids.
One argument for Evil Eye: Global Damage with no setup required after the run starts. White Antler is the speedrunning meta but it restricts your playstyle and Blackened Fleece only works for omega moves. Sure, Evil Eye only affects one kind of enemy, but if you've got a good build then that would usually just be overkill for regular enemies - so it's fair to have that bonus only apply to a single boss. The only time where picking evil eye feels bad is when I'm not sure if I'll actually live long enough to dish out that damage on high fear runs and am debating just taking Luckier Tooth.
As someone who cooks often, it’s not necessarily the cheese, but how it’s cooked/presented. I’d say start off with your favorite cheese but in something like a grilled cheese. Worked on my 4 year old when he was 3, he wouldn’t touch anything with cheese (not even Mac and cheese, and he loves noodles) but that’d be my advice.
I would recommend cheese that satisfies their general taste like if they likes salty food then halloumi or feta and whatnot, I think the right answer is a bit subjective.
I've started not taking Origination for the same reason as Privilaged Status in Hades 1, you don't have to spend half the run trying to get 2 statuses and lets you focus completely on other things that make the build work.
One thing I'm really excited for is adding a meta upgrade that gives the meta currency a slight affect during the run, kinda like how Hades 1 did it. It'd also be an indirect buff to Double Up, lmao
Haelian, your chat needs to learn that processed cheese isn't plastic or fake, it's literally just regular cheese with a few extra ingredients, namely sodium citrate, to help it melt better and give it a different texture.
All this talk about cheese and not ONE mention of Halloumi. Seriously, this is what I would recommend for someone who doesnt really like cheese. It's a grilling cheese, so you want to prepare it by cutting it into thick slices and lightly pan frying it in a little olive oil until it's lightly browned on both sides. Eat it alone, cut up with crackers, dipped in a sauce like you would french fries, cut up on a salad, on a burger... the options are endless. The best is to just eat it alone after you've pan-fried it though, imo 🧀
It very much depends on what they don't like about cheese. If they think it's just empty calories and doesn't add anything to a meal, suggest grated parmesan on pasta!
If they were to nerf possessed array, I think the best option were to make it cost magick if you have it, or five it an internal cooldown. The problem with possessed array is that it really doesn't have a drawback like some of the other broken hammers do. Sure, not every hammer has a drawback, but almost all of the broken ones do. The only drawback it has is dependent on what kind of build you have going. Also, I'm pretty sure possessed array doesn't get anything from boons, so there is no way of making it better... like it needed it. They could do the whole pickup thing like they had before, but I don't think they'd take something out, only to then double back on it and bring it back. Maybe decreasing the amount of shells you have by one? It wouldn't be a tremendous nerf and the second hammer could bring it to former glory, so maybe decreasing your max ammo could be the better option.
I love the torches, but a lot of the best builds surround you with so many particle effects it's hard to tell what's going on. I had a Moros build with enough damage to burn through half of Cerberus's health bar in three seconds and still lost to Chronos because I couldn't see a thing.
Initially I live the asphodel thing but now it’s a little annoying, mostly because we have to stay in a circle. I think it would be more fun if we just had to fight the enemies Edit: I didn’t know you can stay outside of circle lol
@@alexandermheen-garschke6166 No one cares except the person commenting, so some people care I guess. And it doesn't "contribute" to anything. It's just a cool feeling that you got somewhere before anyone else to some people.
@@lcintra_ Thank you for explaining! I was very curious and never have felt compelled to do it myself. I understand now how it can bring joy to some. Hope you have a nice day
maybe im crazy but isn't the chaos magik regen wayyyyy better than a total magick increase? cos you can easily get +50 magick just by playing through mourning fields without even aiming for it, whereas all the magick regen boons have some kind of awful drawback which makes the chaos version so superior, AND the chaos one stacks with any other regen boon you get
I got this duo boon with the axe weapon. Got the hammer where I can just spam omega attack and still move. Got the attack boon from zeus. Basically, charge the attack, then sprint to enemy to proc blitz, then spin will reapply blitz. Not sure if that's what happened but that is the fastest time I finished a run. I only have the timer heat tho.
Bread cheese. I have no idea where the name comes from, it has nothing to do with bread. It's super expensive, but it's the most delicious melted cheese there is. If someone doesn't like it, they simply won't like any cheese.
You want a soft easy cheese: go with Manouri. I guess it's probably kinda hard to find it over the pond, esp. some semblance of the real deal. But try, it, it's simple, not salty, not especially tangy, no acidity, nothing. It's creamy and foamy and you can easily use it as a complement to a salad (not Greek salad though, Greek salad demands one cheese only and that's feta!).
I mean, for all the dislike towards the Blood, it didn't stop working for a moment, even despite all the pathing through empty rooms. When your build just runs around in a vulnerable state to work to its full DPS, you kinda could use a thing like that. Sure, this build also had some moon water, so maybe it didn't seem important, but it still was doing work.
Dashing with romantic spark kind of doesnt work (?), I've tried the duo with mel axe dash strikes and zeus on attack but i wasn't getting the triple damage on the blitz, It's weird. Also random tangent the demeter/zeus duo should absolutely work like how their duo worked in hades 1 where the effect isn't consumed like in hades 1, i cannot believe there came a time we needed cold fusion the most and it disappeared
I mean, its only triggered by the sprint, so that much should be obvious, right? Thats why you have to use an aspect that sort of passively dishes out the blitz, which gives you freedom to sprint around to activate the effect.
American cheese is what most people first cheese is so if she doesn’t like cheese she probably got that from eating American cheese or something. IMO try a type of cheese that taste very different from the normal cheese like American or cheddar that everyone has tasted. You mentioned Brie cheese but I think that would be a great idea. It’s sweet which makes it different from normal cheese and pairs great with fruits like apple. I like to eat it in a sandwich with sliced apples in it and turkey.
Frinos should have an additional combat ability like a stun/slow every few secs, could make it 0 damage and single target only for balance and he'll be a good choice.
As someone who absolutely hates cheese, I think smoked gouda is really good. It doesn't have the cheese smell I hate and it's nutty and flavorful. Get the good one.
3:39 I'm sure someone in chat mentioned it but you actually do see Hermes' 3D model! However it seems to be a one time thing when he first gets back from spying on Chronos and introduces the surface as an option. After that he has dialogue saying that he's going back to the mountain and will only be communicating via boon going forward
Zenitsu baited me
Love the explanation of what you're going for, desired attack patterns and prioritization of resources in the build! Very helpful to mere mortals like me 🙂
Imagine if the devs add build blueprints, that you can preselect before a run, and it then highlights the gods/boons as you do the run. Such a massive QoL
I Feel like it trivializes a core aspect of hades. Learning and remembering cool boon and hammer combinations
That sounds like the chaos trials. If they let us play the same chaos trial over again then it will satisfy those people who want to test out specific combos the devs want to highlight when ever we want.
@@LycanDreams9159 not allowing to replay chaos trials is just a bad decision. Really fun mode
I think it's a good idea for a mod but in the vanilla game it'd ruin a bit the fun imo
Dashing does indeed proc romantic spark, it's absolutely busted lmao
On the subject of Cheese, there's two good ways to introduce in my opinion.
a chartreuse board with multiple cheese options plenty of fruits, veg, meats, and cheese to mix and match.
or melted as a fondue and have it as a cheese dip with say sliders or things on sticks (or could be put on sticks)
Thats a nice idea, or as "finger food" complement with wine.
Make them a basic American grilled cheese sandwich. That's a fantastic intro to cheese.
We tried years ago, she couldn't finish it sadly. She put in a valiant effort though.
I just watched the episode and you uploaded, legend.
Oh, I like how I caught that you mentioned trying this out during a run previously and you did follow up.
And I also like that I remembered you did a Zeus dash run.
To put things in perspective: I never played the game, I don't even own a console 😂. All I know about the game is from watching your Vids. Although I did play Hades 1 at my friend's.
So GG, keep it up. I love your Vids.
One argument for Evil Eye: Global Damage with no setup required after the run starts. White Antler is the speedrunning meta but it restricts your playstyle and Blackened Fleece only works for omega moves. Sure, Evil Eye only affects one kind of enemy, but if you've got a good build then that would usually just be overkill for regular enemies - so it's fair to have that bonus only apply to a single boss. The only time where picking evil eye feels bad is when I'm not sure if I'll actually live long enough to dish out that damage on high fear runs and am debating just taking Luckier Tooth.
As someone who cooks often, it’s not necessarily the cheese, but how it’s cooked/presented. I’d say start off with your favorite cheese but in something like a grilled cheese. Worked on my 4 year old when he was 3, he wouldn’t touch anything with cheese (not even Mac and cheese, and he loves noodles) but that’d be my advice.
I love Romantic Spark! Used it along with a heroic blitz on the dagger special to get my first win!
I would recommend cheese that satisfies their general taste like if they likes salty food then halloumi or feta and whatnot, I think the right answer is a bit subjective.
I've started not taking Origination for the same reason as Privilaged Status in Hades 1, you don't have to spend half the run trying to get 2 statuses and lets you focus completely on other things that make the build work.
One thing I'm really excited for is adding a meta upgrade that gives the meta currency a slight affect during the run, kinda like how Hades 1 did it. It'd also be an indirect buff to Double Up, lmao
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On cheese I would say mozzarella or Oaxaca cheese. They both are great for Quesadillas or grilled cheese sandwiches.
How to fix origin coil: add an additional Orb that stays where you summon them, but keep the 2 you have around you.
Haelian, your chat needs to learn that processed cheese isn't plastic or fake, it's literally just regular cheese with a few extra ingredients, namely sodium citrate, to help it melt better and give it a different texture.
I've ran this build but lucked into an Epic tier Will from Chaos in Erebus and supplemented it with Fluid Gain... It popped off
All this talk about cheese and not ONE mention of Halloumi. Seriously, this is what I would recommend for someone who doesnt really like cheese. It's a grilling cheese, so you want to prepare it by cutting it into thick slices and lightly pan frying it in a little olive oil until it's lightly browned on both sides. Eat it alone, cut up with crackers, dipped in a sauce like you would french fries, cut up on a salad, on a burger... the options are endless. The best is to just eat it alone after you've pan-fried it though, imo 🧀
It very much depends on what they don't like about cheese. If they think it's just empty calories and doesn't add anything to a meal, suggest grated parmesan on pasta!
If they were to nerf possessed array, I think the best option were to make it cost magick if you have it, or five it an internal cooldown.
The problem with possessed array is that it really doesn't have a drawback like some of the other broken hammers do. Sure, not every hammer has a drawback, but almost all of the broken ones do. The only drawback it has is dependent on what kind of build you have going. Also, I'm pretty sure possessed array doesn't get anything from boons, so there is no way of making it better... like it needed it. They could do the whole pickup thing like they had before, but I don't think they'd take something out, only to then double back on it and bring it back. Maybe decreasing the amount of shells you have by one? It wouldn't be a tremendous nerf and the second hammer could bring it to former glory, so maybe decreasing your max ammo could be the better option.
The torches make me nervous tbh. Having to jump into melee range with the special 😱
String cheese and as crazy as you think it sounds Brie is a great intro cheese. Swiss and cheddar are easy as well, good on sandwiches.
Is this basically the new D-Dash Merciful End?
18:33 Wait is that a new patch or do I have a bugged game? I've never seen the medusa miniboss move
She got a new move in patch 2 I think.
You had me at Zenitsu
Any AFK type builds possible like in Hades 1
I couldn't imagine not liking cheese xd. I would've thought it'd at least be fine on a pizza
Gudbrandsdalsost is the best cheese because they might not even recognize it as cheese. Mozzarella or fresh cheese are good too.
Imagine if they made a feature to share player made chaos trials.
Throat is extra clear this time around LOL
One of the strongest Builds in the game although you had a bad blitz und few poms.
I swear Zeus special on torches is larger than Apollo special which doesn’t make sense?
I love the torches, but a lot of the best builds surround you with so many particle effects it's hard to tell what's going on. I had a Moros build with enough damage to burn through half of Cerberus's health bar in three seconds and still lost to Chronos because I couldn't see a thing.
Visibility was a definite problem here as well.
Initially I live the asphodel thing but now it’s a little annoying, mostly because we have to stay in a circle. I think it would be more fun if we just had to fight the enemies
Edit: I didn’t know you can stay outside of circle lol
Honestly I'd rather have to fight the enemies as well.
You should be able to restore magic as you channel. If they just changed that I don't think they would have to nerf hera's magic boon
EVIL EYE EVIL EYE
if you don't clear your throat, how would we ever know the video has started?
Yay!
Why is naruto in this game, hello???
First I guess. First?
Serious question. Why comment first? Who cares and what does it contribute to anything?
@@alexandermheen-garschke6166 No one cares except the person commenting, so some people care I guess. And it doesn't "contribute" to anything. It's just a cool feeling that you got somewhere before anyone else to some people.
@@lcintra_ Thank you for explaining! I was very curious and never have felt compelled to do it myself. I understand now how it can bring joy to some. Hope you have a nice day
maybe im crazy but isn't the chaos magik regen wayyyyy better than a total magick increase? cos you can easily get +50 magick just by playing through mourning fields without even aiming for it, whereas all the magick regen boons have some kind of awful drawback which makes the chaos version so superior, AND the chaos one stacks with any other regen boon you get
Really depends. More Magick could equate to finishing most chambers before ever running out potentially.
Kinda reminds me the Merciful end from Hades 1, i always used to activate it with my dash
I love watching a classic merciless end run
I got this duo boon with the axe weapon. Got the hammer where I can just spam omega attack and still move. Got the attack boon from zeus. Basically, charge the attack, then sprint to enemy to proc blitz, then spin will reapply blitz. Not sure if that's what happened but that is the fastest time I finished a run. I only have the timer heat tho.
I found out today, but on hades 2 artemis boons aren't affected by rare crop
Bread cheese. I have no idea where the name comes from, it has nothing to do with bread. It's super expensive, but it's the most delicious melted cheese there is. If someone doesn't like it, they simply won't like any cheese.
You want a soft easy cheese: go with Manouri. I guess it's probably kinda hard to find it over the pond, esp. some semblance of the real deal. But try, it, it's simple, not salty, not especially tangy, no acidity, nothing. It's creamy and foamy and you can easily use it as a complement to a salad (not Greek salad though, Greek salad demands one cheese only and that's feta!).
I mean, for all the dislike towards the Blood, it didn't stop working for a moment, even despite all the pathing through empty rooms.
When your build just runs around in a vulnerable state to work to its full DPS, you kinda could use a thing like that.
Sure, this build also had some moon water, so maybe it didn't seem important, but it still was doing work.
I mean, with mozzarella, if they're not willing to keep an open mind about cheese after a slice of pizza I don't know what to tell you.
Just did this build last night, it was really powerful, tho i didnt get a good magik regen :(
13:07 Doesn't Aphrodite's cast inflict weakness?
I've been curious about this build since I saw the duo. Haven't tried it yet 🙂
Dashing with romantic spark kind of doesnt work (?), I've tried the duo with mel axe dash strikes and zeus on attack but i wasn't getting the triple damage on the blitz, It's weird.
Also random tangent the demeter/zeus duo should absolutely work like how their duo worked in hades 1 where the effect isn't consumed like in hades 1, i cannot believe there came a time we needed cold fusion the most and it disappeared
I mean, its only triggered by the sprint, so that much should be obvious, right? Thats why you have to use an aspect that sort of passively dishes out the blitz, which gives you freedom to sprint around to activate the effect.
@@gintuner437116:10
cheese hater here, what cheese should i try to make me cry?
Great art for thisnone
American cheese is what most people first cheese is so if she doesn’t like cheese she probably got that from eating American cheese or something. IMO try a type of cheese that taste very different from the normal cheese like American or cheddar that everyone has tasted. You mentioned Brie cheese but I think that would be a great idea. It’s sweet which makes it different from normal cheese and pairs great with fruits like apple. I like to eat it in a sandwich with sliced apples in it and turkey.
I really wish animal familars did something more. Especially Frinos, I feel like he doesnt serve much of a purpose
DiD YoU KnOw ThE FrOg BlOcKs ThE sHeEp SpElL!?
Frinos should have an additional combat ability like a stun/slow every few secs, could make it 0 damage and single target only for balance and he'll be a good choice.
@@wildstorm3486 no way
@@sengeete398 yeah or it'd be cool if he blocked some moves too
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let’s go!