Inside an operating F3
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- (NOTE: Turn on closed captioning for subtitles- audio can be hard to hear)
The Anthracite RR and Historical Society owns and operates a 1948 F3, seen here when it was painted in CNJ colors, residing in Jim Thorpe, PA. in 2009.
ARRHS member Carl shows us around the cab and engine room of the ex- Bangor and Aroostock unit as he performs periodic maintenance.
This unit, and its sister were moved to Steamtown in Scranton, PA, in 2010 and are now in the DL&W paint scheme.
#emd #emdf3 #CNJ #cabride #locomotive
"You ever been in one of these when it goes into emergency?" -Slams it into emergency. lmao love it
finally a video where i learn something about diesel engines.
I love the look of them
Great video! Especially liked the part about the explanation of the brake and the manual transitioning. Most of that is lost with the new engines, it's still nice to know what's going on behind the curtain.
Thank you!
I bet a person can learn alot from that old man!
One thing he got wrong is on the automatic brake valve, the position all the way over to the left is Full Release, it allows an extra amount of charging the train line. The traction motors go from Series to Paralell to parallel shunt on an EMD. I cut my teeth on these engines on the BN.
You are both confused with your terminology and operation, fully left is full release, which gives full recharge of train brake, not to confuse that with locomotive brakes, which is also give full release to the left, so both handles are in full release to the left which releases all brakes on trucks and fully recharges auxiliary reservoirs on the trucks, so in effect that is the running position, first position to your right on the train brake gives minimum reduction, 7 lbs if i remember correctly which gives initial application of brakes on all trucks, it is at this point the locomotive driver in (Australian terms) holds the independent brake in full release to stop engine brakes coming on, you can then continue to the right to make further reduction up to a maximum of 25 lb on the train brakes, to give further braking effect, to apply truck brakes harder, or fully right, which goes to emergency, venting all air from train pipe, as fast as possible, for emergency stopping. 26 L is the same operation, excepts you hold the independent brake lever down. instead of pushing it fully to the left. I agree with you on the series to parallel shunting with the traction motors. 24 years driving trains in S.A.
At least they preserve some things, like this here F3
PLEASE DO NOT SCRAP
CHEERS FOR THE ENGINEER!! NICE WORDS
I like when he said about 'a dope in a car pulling in front of him'
very nice man i'v always been curious about these old B.A.R. f3's i grew up near the old oakfield me. yard of the bangor and aroostook i used to see these old loco's in service there in the early 80's glad to see they were refurbished again in 2010 they look awsome in the new paint scheme i heard these units were upgraded to the 647 is that true or do they still have 567's in them
nice vid thanks
What engine is in it ?
4:50 Gauges? You got gauges?! Watch this, newbie 😎
Good thing they finally scrapped these things. They were death traps.
You do realise that some railroads still use these, right?
In what ways we're they death traps? The only thing I can think of is that in a GP or SD, especially the low nose units, you have greater visibility going in both directions. Some even have dual controls. Also, boarding is much easier on the newer ones.
if you handle the controls wrong, can one of these explode? asking for a friend...
A question my new girlfriend asked me a couple nights ago...
If anything, it will go into penalty action and shut down.
Do huh?
There's an old engineer who knows his stuff. Thanks for this awesome video.
Legend has it, this guy is still pulling all of the levers back and forth.
Hahhahahahhaha
They better not scrap more beautiful F3’s, true American power
Spent many hours in that old girl on both sides of the cab when we had it as our #46! She was a good running unit once you learned it's little quirks. We all thought when it left it would be scrapped. Very happy to see and hear it run again!!!!
Does she have dynamic brakes?
my dad used to take us to the Tremont station in the Bronx and we'd watch the F3's, Mu's and electric locos-they seemed like monsters and was quite the thrill. Never lost my love of trains
Same here, except that in my case the station was Nagatino (on the Pavelets line out of Moscow)! BTW, on that line all of the passenger trains are electric (R2 EMUs for the commuter trains, Czech-4 electric locos for the expresses); the freight trains are mostly diesel, though -- mostly Erie-builts and Alco RS3s (oh man, you'd have to see them to believe how much smoke those Alcos put out!), but not a single EMD unit to be seen.
I didn't hear or understand most of anything he said... nice loco though.
The sound of that engine is like a lullaby.
yea fuck it... locos are cooler than boats. there, i said it
Great video. I used to run these F3 locomotives. I also like running SD 9’s and SD 45’s. I really enjoyed being an engineer. It was good to see your video. It brought back lots of memories. Thanks 👍❤️
Some dope runs in front of me with his car, pssssssssst! This guy is hilarious 😂
There will be a test on what you learned in the morning on how to operate an F3
FINALLY! An explanation of the bail on the engine brake. Thanks!
Would be neat to see GE, EMD etc....to do a modern remake of this....beautiful design.
Between 1970 and 1972 Clyde Engineering (an Australian company that held a EMD license) made the CL class which was last of this type to be built
Don't ask a man: his salary
Don't ask a women: her haircut
Don't ask why it's Trains and rail yard simulator: engine sound
Yup,I noticed that too... Now was that added to this video, or is that in fact the sound of that engine, and what the developers used for every locomotives sound in that game.
The first thing one notices is the lack of a steering wheel...
Still, it probably handles pretty good. Corners like it's on rails...
Actually, yes. The flanged wheels keep the entire train on the track. There were steam locomotives that had a huge valve handle where a steering wheel would be. An engineer with a very weird since of humor once loved to pretend he was "driving." One time, they were going on a winding stretch of track, and he turned to the brakeman and said, "Hey, Brakey, could you take the wheel while I go to the coal pile?" That poor brakeman was sweating blood "driving" the train over all that winding railroad until the engineer got back.
Man I’m getting into the American trains. They are the coolest.
I've always loved trains. They're in my blood. I used to watch them all day run past my backyard as a baby in El Paso, Texas. Years later, I drove a miniature passenger train (an F-styled locomotive too), and hauled I don't know how many passengers around the track in eight years. Even had the complete outfit, complete with the engineer's cap.
Diesel Electric Locos are awesome...
There you go! Back from a time of EVERYTHING on the planet being American made. We must go back to that idea. Very cool tour. I've never been around an F unit but ran plenty of GPs, SDs and SWs. Love the old EMD.
I suppose you couldn't put a mic on the guy - or put subtitles...
+stainless0521 I may re-edit this video. Can't help the sound much unfortunately, but I like the idea of subtitles.
Great video. I'm really trying to find out how the "dead man's switch" worked on these old units...an ALCO (MLW) S-1 if possible. I'm researching for a story where an S-1 (or an RS-2 or 3) is sent off driverless. Did they use the constant pressure or intermittent tap, and if the latter, what would the max time be before the auto braking kicked in? Thanks again for the video.
How much shard has that guy smoked before that video
Man you gotta love those old f units
f,n right!
This is so cool. ive flown airplanes and driven all kinds of trucks but I have never operated a locomotive.
A very long time ago I was a brakeman on the NP out of Missoula, MT. They still ran some F3s and they were my favorite engines.
Why did you like the F3's so much? Were they much different than later Fs?
These are my favorite locomotives. They have roll down windows and wing windows. I always wanted to take a ride in one.
Nothing is better than a streamliner
Lots of information. This guy knows what he is doing.
Surely the most beautiful sounding loco ever. I could go to sleep listening to one of these things idling. They sound fantastic......
The engineers don't wave from the trains anymore, not like they did back in 1954!
Of course they do bro.
They do, but not as much
@@stevenasante8662I see it all the time.
@@stevenasante8662 they do it every time they see you wave at them
I wave at people from my train all the time, the windows are so tinted that you probably can’t see me. And with reliable A/C, there’s no reason for me to really run with the windows open.
I lived on the West Side of the Central Valley, CA. During cantaloupe season the packing houses would load up melons all night long to the refrigerated cars. The entire town would rumble when the engines would shuttle and make up cars. When an engine would couple up you could hear the slack in the couplers thump all down the line. The engine would be rolling while the last cars would stand still while the couplers would slack in the direction of pull and you would hear the clunk again as the engine would pull away.
As a kid the F3 was my favorite followed by its sister the FL9 👍🏾
you must be old to have seen F3s.
I was a teenager in 1978 when we went to Illinois and Mn and we saw the absolute end of the F3.
2 F3s(GMO and ICG) at Bloominton,Il. and an FP7 leading an F3B in twin cities.
these 3 were the only F3s I ever saw,,,,,(running),,,,,,the good old days!
Thanks for showing a piece of Bangor & Aroostook history. I grew up in Maine and I enjoy seeing anything that has to do with Maine Railroads.
The NY,NH&H RR used EMD FL9's, specially built. F=1400hp, L9=longer by 9 feet for the addition of a steam boiler to heat the coaches and a retractable shoe on the side for running on 3rd rail power in and out of NY where exhaust smoke was prohibited. They had a melodious 3 chime Hancock air chime horn and a distinctive kind of tone from the roots blower, very unlike the whine of a turbo. The 567 prime mover had a cadic rhythm with a faster, smoother beat than that of a chugging Alco. They were the varnish through the 80's and a few are still in service at Museums.
FL9s were 1,750-1,800 horsepower.
The coolest looking locomotive ever made besides the dash-9
operation unknown GP30s are the coolest locking along with sd70ace.
In the realm of EMD, hands down Union Pacific's "Centennials," the DDA40X MACHINES.
A lot going on in the cab. Skilled work. That's probably only one component of what it takes to be an train engineer
That was a nice video, I love the older EMD locomotives unfortunately the oldest I have run was a GP38 from the mid 60's.
You should come to Australia! In Melbourne it's common to see Clyde - EMD locos from the 1950s and 60s in revenue service
You guys know at 1:12 he's just bailing off the engine brakes, right? You do that when you apply the train brakes to avoid giving the engine flat spots.
That engine just purrs wonder can I get that to fall asleep at night??
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my brain during a test: 1:27
I remember these wagon tops very well I was a fireman on the B&O in 1967 and we had a lot of these around in fact GE came out with A NEW WIDE BODY that the railroads use today !!
You have some great videos on your channel. Thank you for those, I've enjoyed watching them.
This reminds me of a tour I got of an operating Victorian Railways S class S 313 at Steamrail open day 2016. I got to throttle the engine up (with the reverser in neutral of course) and then went through the engine room.
I remember when those F-3's were at Winslow Jct in South Jersey along with a similarly painted B Unit. I am not sure why they got separated, but its a damn shame that the the two A's got repainted because they would have been nice to see them run as an A-B-A set.
Thanks for the walk-through Jim!
Now this is more my style. It has character.
Excellent video 👍
Hey I remember Craig, he's friends with my grandfather, when I was a kid in 2009 I went out and "helped" them in Scranton with painting and what not, I got to notch up the engine a little and of course blow the horn. Something I will never forget!
awesome engine....
The engineers don't wave from the trains anymore, not like they did BACK in 1954.
I remember watching these units as a kid when they were with the Bangor and Aroostook in northern Maine.
Those things come with a crapper? ( well I don't know )
You do not see the door but it is in the cab at the front middle of cab. The bathroom door is there.
@@Ethan_Odom Were these locomotives operated by one person, or multiple crew? In case you need the crapper in the middle of a journey?
@@Republic3D American Trains still have two Men on the Locomotive, Engineer and Conductor. Europe usually is Driver only, but the Locomotives don't have a Bathroom either as Freight Trains here stop frequently too.
@@Genius_at_Work What about passenger trains, would the locomotive driver wait until next stop and then go quickly to the passenger toilet and then return for the next leg? I know, probably stupid questions but I'm curious. :)
@@Republic3D Usually yes. But they don't stay on a Train longer than 3-4 Hours before changing to one in the opposite Direction. They must know their Stretch of Track inside out, hence they don't drive too long.
This is the best learning about trains video I ever have
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Can someone explain the use of the selector handle?
What’s the future for these CNJ F Units?
Historical purposes, for the most part.
That is one awesome rolling idle!
Wow....Cabooses and F-3's - who ask for more?
i need more from this Engine !!!!I love it !!! Power ,Sound.Dieselsound .
Good video.. I would really love to hear what this fella has to say about this train. I'll bet he has lots of stories to tell.
Drool factor F unit. The work that was involved operating these units.
Cool video love the F units especially the war bonnet santa fe's that red and silver pops 😎
@rockinrollfan37 Yes, the compliment was directed towards the cameraman, & the engineer bud. I must've been half asleep & not realizing, when I typed that reply to you. LOL :D
Impressive information! Very kind gentleman.
Listening to him explain and put words that is good. Because wherever i watch silver streak, i will always make sure to watch the first part of it. After the conductor says ALL ABOARD. The engineer blows the horn. Then he starts working everthing
I was expecting also some ride...
Got all that?
@GP9railfan yea i defenatly liked the last variation of the "tricolor" scheme the best they had some bad looking variations of black red and gray and i think even gold if im not mistaken in like 1973, i saw a pic of ol 49 fresh out of the rebuild shop in '73 that was when she was renumbered from47 to 49 and i belive it had an ugly color of gold on it to! but i can't seem to find that pic at the moment
@GP9railfan i would have to agree somewhat im kind of partial to the white, blue and yellow scheme of the 1950's early 60's that scheme looked good , Bl2 557 is close to that but not exact
F-3's have a EMD 567BV16 engine that is supercharged and they are rated at 1,500 HP per unit.
I wish they would make this cool CNJ F3 in n-scale.
I remember the old EMD F3s, I was a Locomotive Engineer on the old Baldwin Steamers in 1948 for AT&SF, later put a ton of miles on the old EMD F7s. Love the video :-)
I could listen to this thing purr all day.
That's an EMD 567 engine--567 cid PER CYLINDER. About 9,072 for the whole thing. Not exactly a Duramax or a Powerstroke, is it?
Nice...!!!!!.
Phase I Chicken Wire F3s...
F3s are so cool. Oh, if I win the lottery (powerball), I want to buy one and take it around the US , Mexivo, and Canada.
Ahhh...You might want to avoid Mexico for now.
First build a railroad in your backyard
@GP9railfan i just shared this with you trainsbyjon uploaded this it is an awsome job of explaining how these work though!
I don't quite understand what the driver is doing at 1:12. The handle releases the brakes more quickly? Can anyone explain?
@rockinrollfan37 Hmmm,,, I don't know. Haven't seen that one either.
Fascinating. Thanks for posting!
70 years of service, fantastic.
Something is missing. Right the steering wheel.
Naaahh... It is FSD v.99
Excellent,
Would have enjoyed seeing more of the cars being pulled by the vintage engine.
I been in a cab ride of an operating EMD F9 - KCS Lines "KCS 1 (Shreveport)". Completely restored and operational on the mainlines as an OCS executive train.
thanks for the tour dad an grand paw weer train men 4 Chicago an northwestern in the 60
Cool
Casey Jones anyone ?