EU4 DECENTRALIZED HRE OVERPOWERED??
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- Опубліковано 16 вер 2024
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Awesome to see you back Res! I forgot that decentralization existed, first time I've ever seen this CB lol
Thanks man!
Actually, before passing ‘ Revoke Privilegia’ Reform, you can accumulate the Imperial Authority up to 100 first.
The higher Imperial Authority becomes before passing that reform, The less and less HRE members reject passing of the reform.
In many case, none of the HRE members will reject the reform if the Imperial Authority reaches 100.
For HRE members which have low opinion of you as the Emperor from Austria, the Diplomatic Juggernaut, you also can improve relations with them first.
I haven't tried in 1.32 but in 1.31 you could add provinces outside of Europe to the HRE as long as there was a continuous land connection to the HRE by having your capital outside the HRE as emperor and pressing the Join HRE button. It's very useful to create vassals like Najd, Ajuuran or Sindh as HRE princes to help convert. I didn't really need it in my One Faith because I had 70 years of game time left by the time I finished but if you're in a time crunch that's a very nice exploit.
I haven't tried it yet. Will test
This mechanism is still there as the third basic reform, "Absolute Reichsstabilität". This reform gives the emporer a casus-belli on non-members bordering the Empire to force them to join the Empire, but it isn´t as powerful as "Reichskrieg".
I got a lucky playtthrough were I got Burgundy and Hungary as the typical free PU, Milan via the shown event, Bohemia and Bavaria via the Mission Tree and even Naples and the Palatinate PU. With all these 7 PUs I was able to force the Ottos to release all states in the Balkans and to smash them in Anatolia and then convert them. I did the same with England, France, Aragon and Spain. Then all of the small states were added to the HRE fairly quickly and became part of the HRE vassalswarm.
The monument in Köln also reduces war cost to enforce religion by 33%
Well, this is strangely reminiscent of the last time an update made Austria Overpowered
Its a bit more balanced OP with this patch
I was really sceptical of the whole adding nations to the empire cb. But revoking reforms and getting the centrelized way after gettring whole europe in the HRE seems really op. First time i have heart about that idea. I guess someone will do an expliot video on it conquering europe in 50 years or so.
Yea its exploitable
From a perspective, before passing ‘ Revoke Privilegia’ Reform, you can accumulate the Imperial Authority up to 100 first.
The higher Imperial Authority becomes before passing that reform, The less and less HRE members reject passing of the reform.
In many case, none of the HRE members will reject the reform if the Imperial Authority reaches 100.
For HRE members which have low opinion of you as the Emperor from Austria, the Diplomatic Juggernaut, you also can improve relations with them first.
The problem is that you lose the cb so you will need like 250 or 300 influence to get the centralized cb and then more 250
they should stop giving the expand empire CB after the 3rd reform and keep it as part of the decentralised route only. If you want to expand HRE then decentralise it and if you want to centralise it then you cannot expand.
probably more balanced
Would be more balanced but less Historical accurate.
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@@RadioRes Bringing out the classic memes I see!
Thats what I found out after going that decentralised route. The fact you can make one big nation into part of your HRE make it quite powerful tool for world conquest. And you dont even need to conquer province.
Its pretty fun
If you decide to switch to centralized path of reforms after you have already benefited the most from decentralized path as this video suggests, you can maximize the centralized path you have just switched into by considering this:
Before passing ‘ Revoke Privilegia’ Reform, you can accumulate the Imperial Authority up to 100 first.
The higher Imperial Authority becomes before passing that reform, The less and less HRE members reject passing of the reform.
In many case, none of the HRE members will reject the reform if the Imperial Authority reaches 100.
For HRE members which have low opinion of you as the Emperor from Austria, the Diplomatic Juggernaut, you also can improve relations with them first.
Decentralized is a blast in MP since electors can call in the emperor which the emperor can also call in all other electors, so if you snow ball a few electors into major powers you dont have to be allied to other electors to call in other electors into a war.
My understanding was that the hre itself doesn't survive for long in competitive mp games. Few years/decades after the start of the game, someone will just ally a few human player and come dismantle it.
Very interesting!, your expertise is important for our community. Ty for the vids
You know I actually really like this style of talking over screen caps. Really nice for pausing and taking in the whole situation.
Now thats straight up bussin
Oh pog radio res video
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I just started an austria campaign earlier today. Guess I know what I'm going for now
amen brother
Damn, never expected revoking reforms to get an even bigger vassal swarm
Before passing ‘ Revoke Privilegia’ Reform, you can accumulate the Imperial Authority up to 100 first.
The higher Imperial Authority becomes before passing that reform, The less and less HRE members reject passing of the reform.
In many case, none of the HRE members will reject the reform if the Imperial Authority reaches 100.
For HRE members which have low opinion of you as the Emperor from Austria, the Diplomatic Juggernaut, you also can improve relations with them first.
If you have 100 IA and you revoke noone will pop out so you could wait for that in the last step instead of warring everyone to get your claims back.
I don't think that works. Having 100 IA just gives +50 reasons. So the biggest nations like Russia and GB in my playthrough would still not become vassals.
@@RadioRes Did you improve relations with them also?
@@RadioRes Usually, aslong as u can get an alliance with them, cap out relations and dip rep etc. u can get pretty huge nations to vote for the revoke. It's certainly worth seeing if you could get them on side at least
Technically, if you are saxony and pick diplo and influence and humanist ideas, u can stack so much improve relations and diplo rep that you can revoke with no one leaving if u have 100 imperial authority
There is that achievement with mulhouse to go decentralized, but still haven't tried it
Lot of RNG when starting as small HRE nation and trying to pass reforms
It's true but I like a good challange! Maybe I can give a try with Bohemia before, following your great advices! It's awesome to see still new uploads of EU4 content! Please keep going!!
I did it in 1.30 and it was one of the most fun I had with eu4. Especially the early game is fun, because Austria hates you which makes expanding interesting. Combined with being a free city and having great mana generation it is perfect for a tall playthrough. Back then you could only attack nations with more dev than yourself with the Reichskrieg cb, which was a pity, because I did become a bit too thicc.
Maybe I should give it another try with the new reforms and I think you should aswell :D
This actually looks really fun, what.
I wish there was a decentralized reform which made heretics ok. I want to create a religiously diverse HRE :(
I think religious peace while going down the decentralized route makes you more IE than the malus from heretic princes, so in a way its ok I guess? Thematically though it doesn't quite fulfill it and I would also like to see it!
HOLY name kinda defeats the diversity option :)
@@RadioRes I mean, it ain't holy, it ain't roman and it ain't an empire, so what gives?
@@Arlae_Nova because it's christian
A friend of mine played as Spain, and AI Austria finished all the decentralised reforms. I was shocked when I saw that
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literally dying. Will update this week
Miss you dude😢
Cant wait for ludi to come and steal this
Now do it as Mulhouse to get the achievement.
Yeah I'll do the achievement at some point
@@RadioRes cool
Dude where are you from? I understand you perfectly that's weird cause my first lenguage is not English
A problem I’ve noticed with the centralized reforms is that you can’t really have large non-HRE vassals because they don’t get the same liberty desire reduction. And I had this problem even after taking both diplomatic and influence ideas.
After you pass ‘Revoke Privilegia’, You don’t have to have large non-HRE vassals if you have the whole HRE as your vassals and you can also add lands to HRE and release new vassals which would become new HRE Vassals too. Then you can conquer the world by planning which part of the world to transfer to your vassal control in order to manage Governing Capacity. You can also annex HRE vassals without getting diplomatic reputation penalties from annexing vassals by granting Nobility Estate ‘Noble Integration Policy’ privilege.
In the colonial regions, Colonial Nations’ liberty desire doesn’t work in the same way as vassals’.
So, there is nothing to worry about.
You're not really supposed to have large vassals in this game, that's what PU's are for.
Just try it and it is sooooo good
Then Jesus asked him, “What is your name?” “My name is Legion,” he replied, “for we are many.” (Mark 5:9)
This I think best describes how declaring Reichskrieg feels.
Centralization still clearly 1000x better.
Madness
Nice video. Res are you indian?
Btw what is the difference between the cb you get from the last decentralised reform and the one you get from the third common reform
The last one calls all of HRE to war
@@RadioRes Ok thank you
How do you play EU4? I don't understand the game philosophy yet so I don't know how you're supposed to be playing it
The game philosophy, for beginners at least, is to follow the "Mission Tree" and complete all your objectives in the tree. You can also do this by trying to play "historically", for example, as Castille defeat the Islamic countries in Iberia, form Spain and colonize the most in the Americas (basically the mission tree of Spain).
Holy shit you started WW1 very early xD
So it is basically the EU but if their were more Imperialistic
It's not overpowered if it's worse than what everyone is already doing.
Just improve relations and have a strong army then you’re ready to make HRE very OP
HRE coin with Kaiser NFT
bro...
So a (De)centralized HRE...
Decentralized-centralized HRE yes
@@RadioRes this is…very op…
Is it possible to do this as Ryukyu?
Hey, I'm doing my first Ironman playthru of Zimbabwe, & conquering most of Africa.. Its around 1560 or so.
I'm wondering if I should risk attacking Great Britain? Normally I'd risk it cos I can just reload to before the war if everything goes bad, but I think it might be too risky on Ironman mode?
England has some land I want in South Africa & West Africa. I initially thought it should be easy, but then I realised they are miles ahead of me on tech.
- England Tech - 13 Adm, 13 Dip, 14 Mil - Zimbabwe Tech - 10 Adm, Dip 10, Mil 11
England plus allies - 39k Infantry, 11k Cavalry, 15k Artillery, 143k Manpower, 11 Heavy Ships, 15 Light Ships, 0 Galleys, 19 Transports
Zimbabwe Military: 47k Infantry, 7k Cavalry, 23k Artillery, 172k Manpower, 10 Heavy Ships, 18 Light Ships, 11 Galleys, 40 Transports
I'm thinking it will be a bad idea to war them yet? I'm a noob who normally does tons of save scumming...
Nah bro, 3 mil techs behind is not a good idea, catch up first
@@ajsrf ok thanks... i thought so.. at the beginning i was struggling to beat kilwa who was 2 techs above... i hoped maybe i could sneak onto britain somehow while most of their troops were in the americas just to try get enough war score to take the african provinces but its very risky.. i got fleet basing rights in france but they dont want to ally me even with +100 relations.. guess im too far away & weak
@@ajsrf to be honest i thought i was caught up cos on my tech screen it says +30-40% on my tech but might be cos im 2 institutions behind & havent discovered most of europe yet? does it only base how far ahead on tech you are due to nations on your institution level or nations you know exist? its kinda hard to level up tech... ive spawned in colonialism but not quite paid the cash to do it properly and even then id still be at least one institution behind
@@tigrecito48 If there is red icon of the institution in your tech tree then it means it spawned and you didn't embrace it yet. Better save your mana. Dev it and try to embrace it even when it comes to taking loans. If you haven't fully discovered europe yet you can try to steal maps from mameluks or ottomans (idk how your borders look like)
@@ajsrf hey, luckily i did that war & won, cos I realised that england was in a war against the protestants - england & spain vs most of the hre & ottomans... i only had to fight 15k irish... was far easier than could have been lol
Res is back
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Just FYI the pronounciation of reichskrieg is not perfect but pretty good. Gotta say didn't expect a non-German to get even that close without looking up how to pronounce it exactly
Gaming
always
You should indian with a slight American accent
I think it can be grosly abused
First I think
Yes