@@nayaforever5955 that Diana and the rest were lying o r just putting on a front as we now know that Flo and Diana had actual physical fights. and that the end was coming fast
@@thomasdelvin3683 that is a lie. Diana and Flo never got physical. None of the Supremes are recorded as saying that they ever had physical altercations. They DID however have arguments, which is really not uncommon for a group of people who have to work and spend a substantial amount of time together every day. Add all of the history and success they had together and that made it worse. For what it’s worth, Diana was not exactly lying here. Cindy Birdsong was being groomed to replace Flo (and had already served as her “stand-in” a couple of months before this) and within a few weeks would replace Flo permanently.
@@LeimertDreamer Cindy B was snuck in---- Flo was NOT aware... of them doing this dirty trick and take a good look at a bratty naive Diana--- she makes me sick here.. and even Johnny -- he did not like her attitude about HER being UN-REPLACEABLE???? --Johnny s response ????good idea??? WTH -- he did not know what to say at that....lol.. and Flo said after she had no way of knowing she was being kicked out of the group and Cindy B was in.. and as you all know Cindy B suffered a breakdown for being so dishonest.. as she had found the Lord and asked for forgiveness... never hear that do you.. well it is all true...
This is the infamous replacement interview. Mary said she didn't know they weren't friends until she said this. Looking at it now, they were definitely going through something. And Diana had to throw that shade in there, just to dig at them. 😆 Because that came out of nowhere. And not "not for me, they can't replace me. But, Florence and Mary, yes." Lol 😁
Wow, I can't believe that Ross would say that too. This performance wasn't long after that infamous meeting at Gordy's house where Flo was fired for one week and then asked to come back because Cindy's legal papers were not in order.
Cindy was still legally tied to Patti Labelle and the Bluebelles, a group she had been a member of for six years. When Cindy subbed for Flo at the Hollywood Bowl just prior to the Carson show, Patti Labelle's lawyers sued Motown and Flo had to be called back to the Supremes until Motown could buy out Cindy's contract with her Patti Labelle group.
Cindy was still tied legally to Patti Labelle and the Bluebelles, a group she had been a member of for six years. After Cindy subbed for Flo at the Hollywood Bowl just prior to this Carson appearance, Patti Labelle's lawyers sued Motown and Motown had to buy out Cindy's contract with her former group. In the meantime Flo had been asked to return to the Supremes until all of the legal matters had been settled with Cindy and her former group. @@orane3549
Whether Diana said that or not, The show must Go on, and you cannot replace a lead singer. That's the truth. It is interesting how when Diana left the Supremes, nobody opened their trailer park or ghetto mouth to comment derogatorily how Jean Terrell became the lead over Mary.
First off, THANKS for uploading the full version of this video! I've never seen the intro or the first verse of this performance! Secondly (and this is random), but I think it's interesting how even though they were all individuals, they had similar styles. Flo had on the same style shimmery, glittery silver dress that Diana has on when they appeared on the show "What's My Line" around this same time. They always looked great!
*THANK YOOOOOU!* Never saw the the full "The Happening" performance before until now! They look beautiful :) Thank's again, very apreciated. Keep up the hard work, and keep these videos coming! MORE SUPREMES, MORE SUPREMES
@@ceeceetracey9839 I wouldn't compare the two. Florence's speaking voice was clear and authoritative, reminiscent of a strict teacher or aunt with her pointed tone. In contrast, Beyonce's speaking voice tends to be raspy, less distinct, and lacks a confident tone.
Will always be that way---- after --- Cindy Birdsong--had a nervous breakdown -- from pulling that stunt with Flo --((sneaky replacing her)) -- and found GOD... she was so sorry for doing that to Flo....
Diana said there is NO STAND IN for her that had to hurt Florence and Mary smh that shouldn’t have been discuss to the public , how embarrassing for a member to say the two can be replaced but not I smh
YES--- we know how awful that was to say that EVEN JOHNNY knew that was terrible... but Diana was young-- stupid and naive-- BGordy was promising her the world...lol----at the price of her friends ????? career.. Flo was being kicked out of the group --- and she had no clue.. ((damn Gordy s work ... ))---even he did not realize Karma was real...
the biggest stars in the world have had stand ins but of course th e BITCH miss ross just had to add that little extra dig in. no doubt flo and diana had a recent fight and Diana was just trying to get back at flo. letting mary know that she,(mary) had better side with her , (Diana)or else she too ,(Mary)would be out on the curb. flo probably left the show after the gig here and went out to a bar
Ha ha ha....the woman you refer to as that bitch Diana came out on top...she out maneuvered the hand clappers, Berry and ALL YOU HATERS...and today at 77 is a superstar in every country on the globe...you dont honestly believe that Flo and Mary could have done what she did?? In your dreams...
The Tonight Show knows they have this in their vaults CLEAR AS DAY. They need to upload it. Its amazing how these shows and magazines have all of this amazing footage and photos and never release it. Its like money. Spend that shit because you cant take it with you !!!!
Not all episodes of The Tonight Show have been preserved; some have been lost, while others have deteriorated significantly. Due to its age, even if this particular episode were archived, it might be in a state of disrepair. They probably wouldn't be willing to pay to have it restored solely for UA-cam publication. Additionally, there are considerations such as music licensing fees to the songs publishers and appearance fees payable to Diana, Motown, and the estates of Mary and Florence that may be required to release the footage.
The shade of it all. 😎 Nobody asked Diane about replacements or stand ins for The Supremes. I also caught how she pointed to Mary and Flo during The Lady is a Tramp. "I never bother with people I hate". So sad!
This is awesome, seeing them together and appearing happy and content. I realize that the picture isn’t as clear but the view is great. To see African American women performing for millions just was unheard of…They were is still is our national treasure. This is a beautiful and lovely appearance to the world…thank you for posting …I ❤️ it…
This was actually a horrible time for them. It had already been decided that Flo would be fired. The stand in discussion was referring to Cindy taking Flo’s place at a previous concert. Flo was on probation, but it didn’t work out in the end.
I believe this was the last performance on television that Flo was in the group. Someone should write a screen play that starts with this performance and then goes back and forth to show how they met as teenagers, the breakup and subsequent departure of Flo not long after this appearance. The screen play should also delve into the rape and trauma Florence experienced (which led to her drinking to hide the pain,) Diane’s affair with Berry and birth of her first child, and Mary caught in the middle trying to be a friend to Flo yet training her replacement Cindy Birdsong of Patti and the Bluebells at the same time. Somebody write this movie 🎥.
...AHHHHH, the INFAMOUS 'replacement' Intwerview, in FULL!! ...ha-HAAA!! .. first, to the ones complaining about the 'shaky' footage; there was a fire, where the "Tonight Show" film reels were stored, and ruined 2/3rd of ALL the "Tonight Show" footage (MOSTLY of the 60's era content), so, this is THE last footage ANYWHERE, so be pleased that we can even HEAR this, much less SEE.... (CONT.) ...And, we can definitely 'hear' the part of Diana 'replacing' the other members at need...(5:38); Johnny even tried to steer away from the question prodding with that 'Flash Gordon' joke (P.S. the 'Girls' were wearing THE top-of-the-line "Mod" wear of 1967, a rarity for BLACK Girls, at the time..); Diana clearly wanted to respond, as to let Mary & Flo KNOW they can be 'replaced'....which was what 'happened' to Flo, RIGHT after this Interview / performance.... ....I'm DEVASTATED Mary is not around to honor The Supremes' legacy anymore; She CHERISHED her role, and footage like this may not be respected in the upcoming times, with no one around to point out it's importance....earrings, ASIDE!!! (9:03), ha-HAAAA!! (RIP, Mary & Flo.....TOUCH....)
Lol.. Miss Ross didn’t WANT to do anything.. she did what she was TOLD to do in this interview. But I agree that people should be grateful that we even have this footage
I remember seeing this at the time it was on. I don't recall the actual colors of Diana's and Flo's dresses (gold?...silver?), but Mary's was a bright yellow! Mary's look ended up having more of an impact on popular culture than many realize. Later that year, Marvel Comics issued Millie the Model Annual #6, which featured the Gears (Marvel's version of the Beatles), and the Sublimes (their version of the Supremes, natch!) appearing at a wedding bash hosted by Millie and her gang. The Sublimes were all three dressed in yellow mini dresses and top-knot ponytails - the spitting-image of Mary ("the SEXY ONE") in her appearance here. All Supremes fans should get their hands on this comic. I was proud to present a copy to Mary herself in the late '90s!
@@lancerayburn4652 ...MILLIE THE MODEL!! ...Me Grannie had copies of that comic, and when she passed (1999), my Mom threw 'em out...NEVER saw that #6 edition, DAMN!
That was shady cause he didn’t even ask her about replacement for Mary and flo he just asked them about the 4th members leaving and why they didn’t replace them 😑diana just wanted that be known
@@marytyus7232 Yes, she was mean for saying that...especially after Johnny had already moved on to another topic and she had to cut in and go back to elaborate on her importance to the group.
In her book, Mary discussed this interview on The Tonight Show. She was annoyed by Diana's comment about there being stand-ins for both her and Florence. At that point, Cindy Birdsong had been chosen to replace Florence and had already appeared in several shows with the Supremes during Florence's absence/detention. Even though Florence is seen here, she was essentially on probation and close to being dismissed. Mary was particularly upset by Diana's blunt statement that the "girls," including Mary, had stand-ins ready if necessary. It let her know that Diana and Berry Gordy saw her as being expendable too.
A lot of Johnny Carson shows from the 19 sixties were erased or something or lost or covered up to Bad Big UPS to Johnny he did his homework on the girls
That was all due to videotape gaining popularity in the '60s. The advantage over film was that videotape could be used over and over again. Johnny's debut on the Tonight Show on Oct. 1, 1962 was recorded over without giving it another thought!
I mean, what Diana said about stand-ins was just pure facts. Flo and Mary knew what the deal was. I just think it was a poor choice for Diana to BRING it up on national television in front of everyone. She didn't exactly know any better anyway. They were just babies in the game at this time doing a SUPREME job! BIG BUSINESS they were a part of! Bless them all.
Oh, she knew exactly what she was doing. She's always been a very calculating (some might say conniving) woman. That's been well documented by most of her fellow Motown artists.
@KeithCarter-cc2rf the 60’s is where you hear most of her antics came from. She was barely like this from the 70’s onward. She was a teen and 23 in the 60’s. That’s extremely young! She learned she would be better off solo and became a better person for learning that about herself. It is what it is
RIP Johnny Carson a blast from the past taking me into my childhood nights watching television with my grandmother RIP Mae 😢 and wow Diana I guess always had star power but also was skin and bones lol 😆
Contrary to many accounts, it actually wasn't. There was an appearance on What's My Line that came shortly after this, and I am thinking maybe one or two more.
Show closeups of Mary and Florence while they're performing- dipsticks! Diana you sure have trouble with that right earring- that same one came off during your "You Can't Hurry Love" performance on the Ed Sullivan Show. Mary has a way of taking my breath away.
HAHAHAhaha....that's the funniest thing I've heard in a long time. Without Diana Ross Flo and Mary would have been both been cleaning toilets at the Motown Museum for the rest of their lives. Stop trippin
@@thewizboy why don't you be quiet and stop bothering people you "Diana Ross Stan Bully." Half of you are just very negative and immature and very evil as well especially over a woman you don't even know for real.
I was wondering if the Supremes official fan club which was huge at the time also felt as you do. I am assuming that many fans felt as you do so why didn't they form a separate fan club for Miss Diana Ross? That would have been the logical thing to do so that they could promote Ross leaving Mary and Florence behind so that Miss Diana Ross could stand on the stage by herself and not have to share any of the accolades with the toilet cleaners. @@thewizboy
Like Johnny said -- luck plays a certain role -- but there is more to this entertainment world.. and Diana -- you are talented but the way you seem to take all the bows and applaud as IF IT WERE ONLY YOU-- THE 3 of the original --- were the BEST.. FLO--Mary--Diana....
You still crying about "mean Diana"...you wouldn't know the other two if it wasnt for her because it was her charisma and personality that put the over the top...Mary and Flo were a beautiful background for Diana to shine on...facts
@@mic6434 Y’all seem to forget it was HDH that made the Supremes a popular act. Diana’s style and charisma wasn’t easily accepted by many because she looked like she was either crying or hurting by her facial features. With the hit songs coming out many got on board to the Diana style but let me make it clear to you that Flo and Mary is what helped to round out the look and the groups singing which made them Supreme. Without Flo and Mary Diana Ross wouldn’t have been as big on her own because her looks and being thin wouldn’t have won right away. By 1967 with the mod scene and the thin model Twiggy being all the rage Diana would’ve been ok for she took advantage of that look and opportunity as a Supreme then as well. I for one loved watching Flo and Mary because they were some sexy and beautiful woman. I’ll have to add Cindy Birdsong too.
@@Vincent50 but she was padding most of the time. Do her shape had nothing to do with the group. We really didn’t even see her real shape until she was leaving the group.
Reading some of the comments below are upsetting. The Supremes are a musical group that produced a sound no one had heard up until that time. I know I was there. Can the guitar sound just as good without a drum ?? To say one was better or more deserving than the other is just stupid.. Together as a group they were Supreme and they did NOT sound the same after Flo left and why should they?? The only difference as well documented is Diana had the attention of the record label owner... What that brought along with it is another issue.. LOVE the original Supremes forever and always.
Well star quality is not just about talent. It’s also about personality and confidence. Diana is bold in this interview while the other two ladies are more timid.
@@realitychick8903 Well, what you’re saying is true and as I was saying…. In this interview, Diana showed us all why she was given that. At this time, it was clear that she was the most charismatic and quick witted.
In the stills for this clip on YT Diana Ross always looks like Cruella DeVille. But I'm sure she probably looked great in person and I believe she's wearing her own hair here.
The Entertainment Angel..-- always wants to HUMBLE those who need it.. lol--- she was too full of herself and thx to BGORDY -- a bratt that thought SHE was UNO NUMO... and yes -- she helped push Flo out of the group.. Diana was too stupid and naive to know about KARMA... today -- she does...
@@nayaforever5955 ==Never -- would hate Diana-- she is like all of us.. we are not perfect... just learning here on this earth while we are here .. I just do not like it when I make stupid mistakes out of not knowing the whole truth.. Don't you---- generates bad karma....
🤔 DIANA ROSS SAUS THERE'S NO REPLACEMENT FOR HER ALTHOUGH MARY WILSON ONCE SAID THAT AND SOME OTHER'S FLORENCE BALLARD COULD SING THOSE SONG JUST AS GOOD AS DIANA THOSE CUTIE PIE TYPE SONGS BUY FLORENCE SANG MORE REAGAL AND POWERFUL SOLID SOUND THAN DIANA'S I'VE HEARD AREATHA FRANKLIN SING BABY LOVE AND YOU KEEP ME HANGING ON AND SHE SOUNDS EXCELLENT SO JUST THINK OF FLORENCE LEADING JUST LIKE ON HER LAST PERFORMANCE IN 1975 SHE BROUGHT THE HOUSE DOWN SINGING 🎶 COME SEE ABOUT ME BLESS THE LEGACY OF FLORENCE BALLARD 🙏🌹🙏 SUPREMES FOUNDER WHO HAD HER DREAM STOLEN 🌹 THE SUPREMES 💖💕
Blah, Blah, Blah, Without Tito, Michael Jackson would have Never Made it, The PIPS kept Gladys Knight afloat. 100% Garbage, Beyoncé never had to deal with all this Sour Grapes Crap. DIANA ROSS WAS/IS the ONLY MAJOR STAR to come out of the Supremes
![Diana Ross & The Supremes - The View [2000]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/2iIQr-LBmu8/mqdefault.jpg)
I am glad to the person who kept a copy of this even though the video is unstable we should be grateful that we even have this...
Oh wow the famous ‘stand-in’ interview! Amazing find. Thanks for uploading!
I don't get it what's special about this interview 😭
@@nayaforever5955 that Diana and the rest were lying o r just putting on a front as we now know that Flo and Diana had actual physical fights. and that the end was coming fast
@@thomasdelvin3683 they physically fought after this interview?
@@thomasdelvin3683 that is a lie. Diana and Flo never got physical. None of the Supremes are recorded as saying that they ever had physical altercations. They DID however have arguments, which is really not uncommon for a group of people who have to work and spend a substantial amount of time together every day. Add all of the history and success they had together and that made it worse.
For what it’s worth, Diana was not exactly lying here. Cindy Birdsong was being groomed to replace Flo (and had already served as her “stand-in” a couple of months before this) and within a few weeks would replace Flo permanently.
@@LeimertDreamer Cindy B was snuck in---- Flo was NOT aware... of them doing this dirty trick and take a good look at a bratty naive Diana--- she makes me sick here.. and even Johnny -- he did not like her attitude about HER being UN-REPLACEABLE???? --Johnny s response ????good idea??? WTH -- he did not know what to say at that....lol.. and Flo said after she had no way of knowing she was being kicked out of the group and Cindy B was in.. and as you all know Cindy B suffered a breakdown for being so dishonest.. as she had found the Lord and asked for forgiveness... never hear that do you.. well it is all true...
This is the infamous replacement interview. Mary said she didn't know they weren't friends until she said this. Looking at it now, they were definitely going through something. And Diana had to throw that shade in there, just to dig at them. 😆 Because that came out of nowhere. And not "not for me, they can't replace me. But, Florence and Mary, yes." Lol 😁
If Diana Ross only knew how arrogant she sounded when she made that statement.....
Wow, I can't believe that Ross would say that too. This performance wasn't long after that infamous meeting at Gordy's house where Flo was fired for one week and then asked to come back because Cindy's legal papers were not in order.
@@jackjules7552 What kind of "legal papers" did Cindy need? And did Flo go back?
Cindy was still legally tied to Patti Labelle and the Bluebelles, a group she had been a member of for six years. When Cindy subbed for Flo at the Hollywood Bowl just prior to the Carson show, Patti Labelle's lawyers sued Motown and Flo had to be called back to the Supremes until Motown could buy out Cindy's contract with her Patti Labelle group.
Cindy was still tied legally to Patti Labelle and the Bluebelles, a group she had been a member of for six years. After Cindy subbed for Flo at the Hollywood Bowl just prior to this Carson appearance, Patti Labelle's lawyers sued Motown and Motown had to buy out Cindy's contract with her former group. In the meantime Flo had been asked to return to the Supremes until all of the legal matters had been settled with Cindy and her former group. @@orane3549
RIP Mary Wilson
and Flo!
Whether Diana said that or not, The show must Go on, and you cannot replace a lead singer. That's the truth. It is interesting how when Diana left the Supremes, nobody opened their trailer park or ghetto mouth to comment derogatorily how Jean Terrell became the lead over Mary.
Exactly
I LOVE Flo with short hair 😍
FLo was stunning with that short hair and she wasnt fat either. You can see that clearly here in one of her last TV appearances.
@@ceeceetracey9839 I know , that was just a mean, lame ass excuse. She looked her best around this time, in my opinion
@@calvinguile1315 facts!!!
ua-cam.com/video/Kyera7VYxLw/v-deo.htmlsi=IwvIzAx5CRrh6-j9 this is from the same time, again, Flo is stunning!
The reaction from Florence and Mary when Johnny made the comment about Diane's dress was right up there alley. They definitely didn't hold back.
First off, THANKS for uploading the full version of this video! I've never seen the intro or the first verse of this performance! Secondly (and this is random), but I think it's interesting how even though they were all individuals, they had similar styles. Flo had on the same style shimmery, glittery silver dress that Diana has on when they appeared on the show "What's My Line" around this same time. They always looked great!
YES>>THANK YOU for this video....
*THANK YOOOOOU!*
Never saw the the full "The Happening" performance before until now! They look beautiful :)
Thank's again, very apreciated. Keep up the hard work, and keep these videos coming! MORE SUPREMES, MORE SUPREMES
So interesting!! Florence had the deepest speaking voice of the group, but when she sang, she was the highest of the group.
I've noticed that. How interesting.
Florence had a very good vocal range, from soprano to somewhere between tenor and alto.
Same with Beyonce
@@ceeceetracey9839 I wouldn't compare the two. Florence's speaking voice was clear and authoritative, reminiscent of a strict teacher or aunt with her pointed tone. In contrast, Beyonce's speaking voice tends to be raspy, less distinct, and lacks a confident tone.
@@pensiveczar2239 I’ll take that. However, Beyoncé does sing in a much higher tone than her speaking voice.
Oh So Mary Didn't Lie🤣
Agree
Mary aint lied about shit. SHe actually did ross a favor by leaving out some of the truths.
@@ceeceetracey9839All the truths are going to come out when either her or Berry dies.
@@junkiejuice938 facts. I wish someone had been bold enough to tell it while they are here.
They seemed very playful especially Diana. I think them not wearing evening gowns made a difference in how they performed.
I noticed that too!!!
diana, mary & florence, the supremes.
Will always be that way---- after --- Cindy Birdsong--had a nervous breakdown -- from pulling that stunt with Flo --((sneaky replacing her)) -- and found GOD... she was so sorry for doing that to Flo....
@@realitychick8903 And Patti labelle and her group that she was apart of before
@@realitychick8903Cindy didn't do anything to Flo. She was hired to replace her. Berry Gordy was the culprit.
Diana said there is NO STAND IN for her that had to hurt Florence and Mary smh that shouldn’t have been discuss to the public , how embarrassing for a member to say the two can be replaced but not I smh
YES--- we know how awful that was to say that EVEN JOHNNY knew that was terrible... but Diana was young-- stupid and naive-- BGordy was promising her the world...lol----at the price of her friends ????? career.. Flo was being kicked out of the group --- and she had no clue.. ((damn Gordy s work ... ))---even he did not realize Karma was real...
She was very good at positioning herself as Alpha.
the biggest stars in the world have had stand ins but of course th e BITCH miss ross just had to add that little extra dig in. no doubt flo and diana had a recent fight and Diana was just trying to get back at flo. letting mary know that she,(mary) had better side with her , (Diana)or else she too ,(Mary)would be out on the curb. flo probably left the show after the gig here and went out to a bar
@@ThatsJustMyBabyDaddy YESSss and hog the interviews... shut up Diana--- let the others have a turn...
Ha ha ha....the woman you refer to as that bitch Diana came out on top...she out maneuvered the hand clappers, Berry and ALL YOU HATERS...and today at 77 is a superstar in every country on the globe...you dont honestly believe that Flo and Mary could have done what she did?? In your dreams...
The Tonight Show knows they have this in their vaults CLEAR AS DAY. They need to upload it. Its amazing how these shows and magazines have all of this amazing footage and photos and never release it. Its like money. Spend that shit because you cant take it with you !!!!
The original footage was lost as well as many of Carson's shows filmed at this time.
@@jackjules7552 where'd you hear that??
Not all episodes of The Tonight Show have been preserved; some have been lost, while others have deteriorated significantly. Due to its age, even if this particular episode were archived, it might be in a state of disrepair. They probably wouldn't be willing to pay to have it restored solely for UA-cam publication. Additionally, there are considerations such as music licensing fees to the songs publishers and appearance fees payable to Diana, Motown, and the estates of Mary and Florence that may be required to release the footage.
The shade of it all. 😎
Nobody asked Diane about replacements or stand ins for The Supremes. I also caught how she pointed to Mary and Flo during The Lady is a Tramp. "I never bother with people I hate". So sad!
I mean, she always does that pointing thing when performing the song lol. She feeds into the fun of it. Or fed, rather.
Love Diana...that's for all the haters
Please go away lol yeah loving a woman who you will never meet ever. The only one's who are promoting hate is y'all
They never got any better than this. Despite a lot of pressure and strain in the group at the time, they were absolute pros here
This is awesome, seeing them together and appearing happy and content. I realize that the picture isn’t as clear but the view is great. To see African American women performing for millions just was unheard of…They were is still is our national treasure. This is a beautiful and lovely appearance to the world…thank you for posting …I ❤️ it…
and Diana would never admit to that... A^A status--- she also was the first black girl to work out with the public at the Hudson s Store in Detroit...
This was actually a horrible time for them. It had already been decided that Flo would be fired. The stand in discussion was referring to Cindy taking Flo’s place at a previous concert. Flo was on probation, but it didn’t work out in the end.
There were many doing it before them. Josephine baker, granted a solo artist was doing it way before them around the world. It wasn’t that unheard of
I believe this was the last performance on television that Flo was in the group. Someone should write a screen play that starts with this performance and then goes back and forth to show how they met as teenagers, the breakup and subsequent departure of Flo not long after this appearance.
The screen play should also delve into the rape and trauma Florence experienced (which led to her drinking to hide the pain,) Diane’s affair with Berry and birth of her first child, and Mary caught in the middle trying to be a friend to Flo yet training her replacement Cindy Birdsong of Patti and the Bluebells at the same time. Somebody write this movie 🎥.
Pretty good outline for a script right there. 👍
And a part on how Florence was ripped off by Motown and her attorneys and ended up on food stamps
My stomach sinks for Florence every time I see her.
...AHHHHH, the INFAMOUS 'replacement' Intwerview, in FULL!! ...ha-HAAA!! .. first, to the ones complaining about the 'shaky' footage; there was a fire, where the "Tonight Show" film reels were stored, and ruined 2/3rd of ALL the "Tonight Show" footage (MOSTLY of the 60's era content), so, this is THE last footage ANYWHERE, so be pleased that we can even HEAR this, much less SEE.... (CONT.)
...And, we can definitely 'hear' the part of Diana 'replacing' the other members at need...(5:38); Johnny even tried to steer away from the question prodding with that 'Flash Gordon' joke (P.S. the 'Girls' were wearing THE top-of-the-line "Mod" wear of 1967, a rarity for BLACK Girls, at the time..); Diana clearly wanted to respond, as to let Mary & Flo KNOW they can be 'replaced'....which was what 'happened' to Flo, RIGHT after this Interview / performance....
....I'm DEVASTATED Mary is not around to honor The Supremes' legacy anymore; She CHERISHED her role, and footage like this may not be respected in the upcoming times, with no one around to point out it's importance....earrings, ASIDE!!! (9:03), ha-HAAAA!! (RIP, Mary & Flo.....TOUCH....)
Lol.. Miss Ross didn’t WANT to do anything.. she did what she was TOLD to do in this interview. But I agree that people should be grateful that we even have this footage
I remember seeing this at the time it was on. I don't recall the actual colors of Diana's and Flo's dresses (gold?...silver?), but Mary's was a bright yellow! Mary's look ended up having more of an impact on popular culture than many realize. Later that year, Marvel Comics issued Millie the Model Annual #6, which featured the Gears (Marvel's version of the Beatles), and the Sublimes (their version of the Supremes, natch!) appearing at a wedding bash hosted by Millie and her gang. The Sublimes were all three dressed in yellow mini dresses and top-knot ponytails - the spitting-image of Mary ("the SEXY ONE") in her appearance here. All Supremes fans should get their hands on this comic. I was proud to present a copy to Mary herself in the late '90s!
@@lancerayburn4652 ...MILLIE THE MODEL!! ...Me Grannie had copies of that comic, and when she passed (1999), my Mom threw 'em out...NEVER saw that #6 edition, DAMN!
That was shady cause he didn’t even ask her about replacement for Mary and flo he just asked them about the 4th members leaving and why they didn’t replace them 😑diana just wanted that be known
Yep. Dirty Diana strikes again 💯
Totally agree. Diana was mean and so wrong for saying that
@@marytyus7232 Yes, she was mean for saying that...especially after Johnny had already moved on to another topic and she had to cut in and go back to elaborate on her importance to the group.
This was beautiful
Damn! She had to get that “replacements” subject in for all the world to hear… SMH!
DIANE WAS A CATTY PERSON!
That was horrible for her to say anywhere, much less on national TV. Catty is an understatement.
The quality is so bad but it was interesting though kind of strange that Diana forgot her name!
Do realize this was one of Flo last shows. This is the year she left.
In her book, Mary discussed this interview on The Tonight Show. She was annoyed by Diana's comment about there being stand-ins for both her and Florence. At that point, Cindy Birdsong had been chosen to replace Florence and had already appeared in several shows with the Supremes during Florence's absence/detention. Even though Florence is seen here, she was essentially on probation and close to being dismissed. Mary was particularly upset by Diana's blunt statement that the "girls," including Mary, had stand-ins ready if necessary. It let her know that Diana and Berry Gordy saw her as being expendable too.
A lot of Johnny Carson shows from the 19 sixties were erased or something or lost or covered up to Bad Big UPS to Johnny he did his homework on the girls
That was all due to videotape gaining popularity in the '60s. The advantage over film was that videotape could be used over and over again. Johnny's debut on the Tonight Show on Oct. 1, 1962 was recorded over without giving it another thought!
Miss Ross was so cute here!!!!!!!!
Diana Ross looks a lot like Joan Crawford, a few years later she would go on to record "Reach out and Touch Somebody's Hand"..., 🎉 !!!
I was in the audience that night!!!!!!!!
5:40 Now, that was a 'WOW' (in a depressing way) moment.
I mean, what Diana said about stand-ins was just pure facts. Flo and Mary knew what the deal was. I just think it was a poor choice for Diana to BRING it up on national television in front of everyone. She didn't exactly know any better anyway. They were just babies in the game at this time doing a SUPREME job! BIG BUSINESS they were a part of! Bless them all.
Oh, she knew exactly what she was doing. She's always been a very calculating (some might say conniving) woman. That's been well documented by most of her fellow Motown artists.
@KeithCarter-cc2rf the 60’s is where you hear most of her antics came from. She was barely like this from the 70’s onward. She was a teen and 23 in the 60’s. That’s extremely young! She learned she would be better off solo and became a better person for learning that about herself. It is what it is
So much for the myth: Diana Ross has a powerful singing voice!! The more she sings: SHE ONLY GOT BETTER ! Lady Is A Tramp!! Job well done Ladies!!!!!
Yes. Lady is a Tramp was vocally splendid
RIP Johnny Carson a blast from the past taking me into my childhood nights watching television with my grandmother RIP Mae 😢 and wow Diana I guess always had star power but also was skin and bones lol 😆
I love me some MS. RAWS
Flo's last TV appearance
Contrary to many accounts, it actually wasn't. There was an appearance on What's My Line that came shortly after this, and I am thinking maybe one or two more.
What’s my line was a day before. This was their last appearance. They left for Washington then LA then Vegas
What’s My Line was g day done May 21, 1967. Johnny Carson was the next night May 22, 1967
Show closeups of Mary and Florence while they're performing- dipsticks! Diana you sure have trouble with that right earring- that same one came off during your "You Can't Hurry Love" performance on the Ed Sullivan Show. Mary has a way of taking my breath away.
Diana Ross performing with the fabulous Florence Ballard.
HAHAHAhaha....that's the funniest thing I've heard in a long time. Without Diana Ross Flo and Mary would have been both been cleaning toilets at the Motown Museum for the rest of their lives. Stop trippin
@@thewizboy why don't you be quiet and stop bothering people you "Diana Ross Stan Bully." Half of you are just very negative and immature and very evil as well especially over a woman you don't even know for real.
Without Flo and Mary Ross would have been giving sewing lessons at the local Singer store. @@thewizboy
I was wondering if the Supremes official fan club which was huge at the time also felt as you do. I am assuming that many fans felt as you do so why didn't they form a separate fan club for Miss Diana Ross? That would have been the logical thing to do so that they could promote Ross leaving Mary and Florence behind so that Miss Diana Ross could stand on the stage by herself and not have to share any of the accolades with the toilet cleaners. @@thewizboy
@@boofusdeldooofus right. Diana Ross knew who the threat was in the Supremes.
Disna warned Flo and Mary by letting them know they have stand-ins and can be replaced.
Mary ssid, it was news to them and they were shocked.
Flo had such a commanding and authoritative voice - she would have been great in ministry
Wow!! Diana Ross!! Did She Say That Thing?? Replacement!! Them Two Could Be Replaced!! Except For Me. We Have Stand Ins!! Waiting In The Wings.
Like Johnny said -- luck plays a certain role -- but there is more to this entertainment world.. and Diana -- you are talented but the way you seem to take all the bows and applaud as IF IT WERE ONLY YOU-- THE 3 of the original --- were the BEST.. FLO--Mary--Diana....
You still crying about "mean Diana"...you wouldn't know the other two if it wasnt for her because it was her charisma and personality that put the over the top...Mary and Flo were a beautiful background for Diana to shine on...facts
@@mic6434 EXACTLY!!!!!! She is so sickening bc she comes to every Diana Ross interview or footage with the same crap
Girl please shut up and get over it… don’t you have anything else to do???
@@mic6434 Y’all seem to forget it was HDH that made the Supremes a popular act. Diana’s style and charisma wasn’t easily accepted by many because she looked like she was either crying or hurting by her facial features. With the hit songs coming out many got on board to the Diana style but let me make it clear to you that Flo and Mary is what helped to round out the look and the groups singing which made them Supreme. Without Flo and Mary Diana Ross wouldn’t have been as big on her own because her looks and being thin wouldn’t have won right away. By 1967 with the mod scene and the thin model Twiggy being all the rage Diana would’ve been ok for she took advantage of that look and opportunity as a Supreme then as well. I for one loved watching Flo and Mary because they were some sexy and beautiful woman. I’ll have to add Cindy Birdsong too.
@@Vincent50 but she was padding most of the time. Do her shape had nothing to do with the group. We really didn’t even see her real shape until she was leaving the group.
I'm dizzy 😵 🤪
Reading some of the comments below are upsetting. The Supremes are a musical group that produced a sound no one had heard up until that time. I know I was there. Can the guitar sound just as good without a drum ?? To say one was better or more deserving than the other is just stupid.. Together as a group they were Supreme and they did NOT sound the same after Flo left and why should they?? The only difference as well documented is Diana had the attention of the record label owner... What that brought along with it is another issue.. LOVE the original Supremes forever and always.
Well star quality is not just about talent. It’s also about personality and confidence. Diana is bold in this interview while the other two ladies are more timid.
@@heyheyhey40 Thank you, she literally stands out, big beautiful brown eyes, big hair, big personality. So it all stands out.
@@heyheyhey40 --Diana was to be given most of the attention.. BGordy ordered it.. Flo and Mary had to sit back and take it OR get fired.. true story..
@@realitychick8903 Well, what you’re saying is true and as I was saying…. In this interview, Diana showed us all why she was given that. At this time, it was clear that she was the most charismatic and quick witted.
And Diana Ross having an affair with the guy that pays the checks helped
I'd like to see AI take a crack at fixing this.
Diana is my vote for Queen of America.
In the stills for this clip on YT Diana Ross always looks like Cruella DeVille. But I'm sure she probably looked great in person and I believe she's wearing her own hair here.
I hope Diana new album is slamming and bumping like the good old days top 10s and number ones then she can really say and we can say she's the boss
No "slamming or bumping" on Diana's album...maybe SLEEPING.
@@k.n.carter8089 if this is true... All I can say is. Lord have mercy........ Thank you for your post.
@@russelwilliam6051 lol what?! Her album got rave reviews. And her minions song is on the charts.
Florence could very well have stood in
8:59 her earring falls off 😅
Why diana earrings always be falling off😂😂😂
The Entertainment Angel..-- always wants to HUMBLE those who need it.. lol--- she was too full of herself and thx to BGORDY -- a bratt that thought SHE was UNO NUMO... and yes -- she helped push Flo out of the group.. Diana was too stupid and naive to know about KARMA... today -- she does...
@@realitychick8903 literally what you said HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHAT I SAID😂😂
@@realitychick8903 And stfu hating on Diana🤷🏾♀️
@@nayaforever5955 ==Never -- would hate Diana-- she is like all of us.. we are not perfect... just learning here on this earth while we are here .. I just do not like it when I make stupid mistakes out of not knowing the whole truth.. Don't you---- generates bad karma....
@@realitychick8903 stop talking to me please
Diana was a demon 😈 diva😂she said u can't stand in for me 😂
🤔 DIANA ROSS SAUS THERE'S NO REPLACEMENT FOR HER ALTHOUGH
MARY WILSON ONCE SAID THAT AND SOME OTHER'S FLORENCE BALLARD
COULD SING THOSE SONG JUST AS
GOOD AS DIANA THOSE CUTIE PIE
TYPE SONGS BUY FLORENCE SANG MORE REAGAL AND POWERFUL SOLID SOUND THAN DIANA'S I'VE HEARD
AREATHA FRANKLIN SING BABY LOVE
AND YOU KEEP ME HANGING ON AND
SHE SOUNDS EXCELLENT SO JUST THINK
OF FLORENCE LEADING JUST LIKE ON HER LAST PERFORMANCE IN 1975 SHE
BROUGHT THE HOUSE DOWN SINGING
🎶 COME SEE ABOUT ME BLESS THE
LEGACY OF FLORENCE BALLARD 🙏🌹🙏
SUPREMES FOUNDER WHO HAD HER DREAM STOLEN 🌹 THE SUPREMES 💖💕
Blah, Blah, Blah, Without Tito, Michael Jackson would have Never Made it, The PIPS kept Gladys Knight afloat.
100% Garbage, Beyoncé never had to deal with all this Sour Grapes Crap.
DIANA ROSS WAS/IS the ONLY MAJOR STAR to come out of the Supremes
Maybe if Mr. Gordy would've made sure Mary Wilson or Florence Ballard became solo stars like Beyonce father did.
Because the other two were kicked to the curb that's why
@@manuelesparza1081 berry backed winners Mary and Flo were not winners...good backup singers thats it
@@shon7425 mary stayed with the group Flo got fired...so they made their own choices neither of them had Diana's talent.
@@manuelesparza1081 😂😂😂😂😂 bc everyone is talking about the other members of destiny’s child lol.. man shut up
That ''hiccupping''' has to go --- heard she was trying to copy Michael J.. with that sound... NW-- it is annoying !!!
He actually was trying to copy her...she did this way before he actually became famous with
the jackson 5 and has said this in interviews and books.
@@Ilonavld RIGHT!!!!! Thank you for correcting this idiot.. I wish it was a way to ban him/her
where was Michael hiccupping. That shit sounds horrible and its super annoying. I posted this somewhere a few years ago.