The M4 Sherman had much thicker armour than German Pzkw. 1, 2, 3 and 4. What wasn't good enough with the Sherman was the US 75 mm gun. But the British fixed this with their 76 mm on Sherman Firefly. One must not forget that on the Eastern front Russian soldiers penetrated the side armour of German Pzkw. 4's with their Ptrd antitank rifles. That says a lot of Pzkw. 4!
ALL tanks are prone to fire as they are full of things that are highly flammable. Just about every WWII combatant would fire at a tank until it caught fire. When a tank caught fire it could not be recovered and refurbished for further use. The use of Diesel engines didn’t change this reality. Sherman was a great design.
The Ronson company didn't use that exact slogan until long after WW2 (they had used a similar slogan in at least one advert in 1928). However, they did use a Sherman-like tank in there adverts during WW2 and this is more likely where the nickname may have come from, but only within the American forces as these adverts were only published there..
The post WWII slogan does not disprove the use of Ronson as a nickname. Ads like in the May 13, 1929 New Yorker, "A RONSON lights every time," is enough to support use of "Ronson" as the nickname. The exact wording of the WWII phrase could have changed after the war with time, possibly due to the post war ad. Or it could be that one of the post war ad creators was a GI during the war, or maybe a relative or friend, heard the phrase during the war and decided to use it in the ad. Now I believe at least one unit, regardless how small, used that nickname for the M4 Sherman during war. It's just how wide spread was it actually used. Ronson was probably a nickname for several other vehicles during the war. It's just those usages got lost in time.
@@flarvin8945 the big flaw in your argument is the time span. A dozen years from one known usage of a similar tag line is just to big a gap. The use of the Sherman-lije tank outline in the adverts is a better link. But there is little credible evidence of the contemporaneous use of this nickname and one unit using it would be too small for it to have become widespread.
@@neiloflongbeck5705 time span gap is too big? What are you talking about? The soldiers of WWII would have been exposed to those ads growing up. I still remember ads from when I was kid, 40+ years ago. Plus Ronson was still lighter used throughout the time period. There is zero evidence disproving "Ronson" was used as a nickname for the M4 Sherman during WWII. Even a single unit using the nickname, proves it was use during WWII, widespread or not. While I do believe the nickname's use during WWII is probably exaggerated, I also believe that "Ronson" was used as a nickname. Just not widespread.
@@flarvin8945 with zero evidence to support your claim I can dismiss it without further consideration. And yes, a dozen years is a long time for a single, as far as the evidence shows, advert and its tagline to have been remembered. If it was a common ad, and I to can remember ads from my childhood in the 1970s but only those that were regularly seen on the TV but not a single one from the print media of the day, and that includes the print versions of TV ads that shared the same taglines. The less frequent seen ads of my childhood I might be able to recall with a memory prompt. I would be hard pressed to remember a TV ad very from years ago, as for the print media there's no chance of remembering an advertising slogan that was used for one ad campaign only. You can believe what you like, just like the adherents of every religion there has ever been or will ever be, but it doesn't mean it is true.
I am no expert but believe that Gen L. McNair was adamant that TD's were the proper weapon to use against tanks, not tank against tank. The medium tank was an infantry support weapon used to defeat entrenched positions and other fortifications. Hence the M 36 was equipped with the 9 cm AT gun, although the late to the party M 26 Pershing had a similar weapon. I do agree, however, that massed numbers and overwhelming production was seen as a counterbalance to the German superiority of Panthers and Tigers. Or even late model Type IV's. Anyway, thanks for the video, and I enjoyed it very much. Why not spotlight the T 34 variants as that tank type was certainly the outstanding model of WW2?
T 34 tank was the death trap of World War two, 3 out of 4 USSR tankers was kill, because the layout of Tank design the escape hatches, when hit by German fire Anti Tank Guns, Tank destoryers, Handheld weapons and Tanks. They said the M4 tank tend to catch fire more easily when hit, while the German tanks Panzer 3-4, Panther and Tiger tank have the same rate of catching on fire too, the percentage rate between the M4 and German was 80 and 83%, near rate, the main cause was over loading by Tankers with ammunition, not stored properly. The German tanks have superior armored on there tanks well the true is it was not by the time late 1942 - 45 armored metal iron strength was weak by a key metal alloy from Sweden which the Swedes stop exporting to Nazi, the result was an increase in spalling and penetration of German armored plates deadly to the German tank crews. US armored branch have list it send 49560 tankers overseers in combat it lost less than 3% about 1486 tankers lose there lives, testimony that M4 Sherman tank was design for the crews safety has well trying to save life in the difficult of combat.
On January 17, 1961, in this farewell address, President Dwight Eisenhower warned against the establishment of a "military-industrial complex." "In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist."
You forgot to do the Math ! The Americans made over 70000 tanks of all types from 1940 to 1945.The Germans less than 25000 tanks from 1939 to 1945 . That just American tanks not counting the English tanks !
This channel is full of garbage. If you want to learn about the Sherman google Myths of American Armor: Tankfest Northwest 2015. It's a 45 minute video by The Chieftain.
Once wet ammo storage was installed, those nicknames can pretty much be ruled out.
The M4 Sherman had much thicker armour than German Pzkw. 1, 2, 3 and 4. What wasn't good enough with the Sherman was the US 75 mm gun. But the British fixed this with their 76 mm on Sherman Firefly. One must not forget that on the Eastern front Russian soldiers penetrated the side armour of German Pzkw. 4's with their Ptrd antitank rifles. That says a lot of Pzkw. 4!
ALL tanks are prone to fire as they are full of things that are highly flammable. Just about every WWII combatant would fire at a tank until it caught fire. When a tank caught fire it could not be recovered and refurbished for further use. The use of Diesel engines didn’t change this reality.
Sherman was a great design.
The Ronson company didn't use that exact slogan until long after WW2 (they had used a similar slogan in at least one advert in 1928). However, they did use a Sherman-like tank in there adverts during WW2 and this is more likely where the nickname may have come from, but only within the American forces as these adverts were only published there..
The post WWII slogan does not disprove the use of Ronson as a nickname. Ads like in the May 13, 1929 New Yorker, "A RONSON lights every time," is enough to support use of "Ronson" as the nickname. The exact wording of the WWII phrase could have changed after the war with time, possibly due to the post war ad. Or it could be that one of the post war ad creators was a GI during the war, or maybe a relative or friend, heard the phrase during the war and decided to use it in the ad.
Now I believe at least one unit, regardless how small, used that nickname for the M4 Sherman during war. It's just how wide spread was it actually used. Ronson was probably a nickname for several other vehicles during the war. It's just those usages got lost in time.
@@flarvin8945 the big flaw in your argument is the time span. A dozen years from one known usage of a similar tag line is just to big a gap. The use of the Sherman-lije tank outline in the adverts is a better link. But there is little credible evidence of the contemporaneous use of this nickname and one unit using it would be too small for it to have become widespread.
@@neiloflongbeck5705 time span gap is too big? What are you talking about? The soldiers of WWII would have been exposed to those ads growing up. I still remember ads from when I was kid, 40+ years ago. Plus Ronson was still lighter used throughout the time period. There is zero evidence disproving "Ronson" was used as a nickname for the M4 Sherman during WWII. Even a single unit using the nickname, proves it was use during WWII, widespread or not. While I do believe the nickname's use during WWII is probably exaggerated, I also believe that "Ronson" was used as a nickname. Just not widespread.
@@flarvin8945 with zero evidence to support your claim I can dismiss it without further consideration. And yes, a dozen years is a long time for a single, as far as the evidence shows, advert and its tagline to have been remembered. If it was a common ad, and I to can remember ads from my childhood in the 1970s but only those that were regularly seen on the TV but not a single one from the print media of the day, and that includes the print versions of TV ads that shared the same taglines. The less frequent seen ads of my childhood I might be able to recall with a memory prompt. I would be hard pressed to remember a TV ad very from years ago, as for the print media there's no chance of remembering an advertising slogan that was used for one ad campaign only.
You can believe what you like, just like the adherents of every religion there has ever been or will ever be, but it doesn't mean it is true.
I am no expert but believe that Gen L. McNair was adamant that TD's were the proper weapon to use against tanks, not tank against tank. The medium tank was an infantry support weapon used to defeat entrenched positions and other fortifications. Hence the M 36 was equipped with the 9 cm AT gun, although the late to the party M 26 Pershing had a similar weapon. I do agree, however, that massed numbers and overwhelming production was seen as a counterbalance to the German superiority of Panthers and Tigers. Or even late model Type IV's.
Anyway, thanks for the video, and I enjoyed it very much. Why not spotlight the T 34 variants as that tank type was certainly the outstanding model of WW2?
Might want to check out FM 17-10
The idea that the T-34 was a great tank is Russian propaganda, spread by online bots. The Sherman and Mark 4 were on par with it.
Ronsin's weren't made during WWII.
T 34 tank was the death trap of World War two, 3 out of 4 USSR tankers was kill, because the layout of Tank design the escape hatches, when hit by German fire Anti Tank Guns, Tank destoryers, Handheld weapons and Tanks. They said the M4 tank tend to catch fire more easily when hit, while the German tanks Panzer 3-4, Panther and Tiger tank have the same rate of catching on fire too, the percentage rate between the M4 and German was 80 and 83%, near rate, the main cause was over loading by Tankers with ammunition, not stored properly. The German tanks have superior armored on there tanks well the true is it was not by the time late 1942 - 45 armored metal iron strength was weak by a key metal alloy from Sweden which the Swedes stop exporting to Nazi, the result was an increase in spalling and penetration of German armored plates deadly to the German tank crews. US armored branch have list it send 49560 tankers overseers in combat it lost less than 3% about 1486 tankers lose there lives, testimony that M4 Sherman tank was design for the crews safety has well trying to save life in the difficult of combat.
On January 17, 1961, in this farewell address, President Dwight Eisenhower warned against the establishment of a "military-industrial complex."
"In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists, and will persist."
my father's tank in the 2nd Armored Division.
You forgot to do the Math ! The Americans made over 70000 tanks of all types from 1940 to 1945.The Germans less than 25000 tanks from 1939 to 1945 . That just American tanks not counting the English tanks !
This channel is full of garbage. If you want to learn about the Sherman google Myths of American Armor: Tankfest Northwest 2015. It's a 45 minute video by The Chieftain.
ridiculous movie
You obviously has a lot to learn😀👍.
@christianvik3400 you obviously needs better English lessons
@@christianvik3400why? In some parts it‘s very unrealistic
Please explain, I would like to know why it’s ridiculous.
watch the movie kid@@brennanleadbetter9708
way too many annoying freedumb units. What a stupid way to measure stuff.
Why?
@@brennanleadbetter9708 They're stubborn and refuse to normalize ? (low education standards by design)