Best Dolphin Pool Cleaner Models 2024 Comparison Chart Breakdown
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- Опубліковано 3 чер 2024
- The best dolphin pool cleaners of 2024 are all broken down in this video. I hear all the time that there are so many models out there for dolphin pool cleaners and no great resource to see the differences among the best dolphin pool cleaners. This video goes into a true breakdown of the best Maytronics dolphin robotic pool cleaners by feature, price, and also other factors when buying one of these top dolphin pool vacuums. I hope this video helps you find what dolphin automatic pool cleaner is best for you and what best fits your needs!
Some of the models broken down in this video are the:
Maytronics M600 Dolphin Pool Cleaner
Maytronics E70 Dolphin Pool Cleaner
Maytronics S200 Dolphin Pool Cleaner
Maytronics Sigma Dolphin Pool Cleaner
Maytronics Nautilus CC Plus Dolphin Pool Cleaner
Maytronics Premier Dolphin Pool Cleaner
Maytronics Triton Dolphin Pool Cleaner
Dolphin Nautilus CC Pro Dolphin Pool Cleaner
Dolphin Liberty Cordless Pool Cleaners
Dolphin Active 20 pool cleaner
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HAVE MOST OF THE MODELS LISTED IN THIS VIDEO AND CAN SHIP TO YOU
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0:00 INTRO
0:25 what stats will we be looking at
4:38 Exclusives vs Online Models - Benefits
5:50 Nautilus CC, E20, Advantage, Cayman
7:47 Nautilus CC Plus
8:57 E30, Triton PS, Advantage Ultra, Proteus Dx4
9:23 S200, Active 20, T35, Quantum
9:45 Nautilus CC Pro, E30 W/ Wi-fi
10:49 Premier
12:57 Triton Ps Plus, Proteus Dx5i, Advantage Pro
14:08 S300, Active 30, T45
14:35 SIGMA
16:23 Nautilus CC Supreme (watch section before and after for context)
16:52 M400 (watch 2 sections before this for context)
17:49 E50 then S400, Active 40
19:00 M600, Active 60 Then E70
21:08 Cordless Intro
21:52 Liberty 200
23:01 Liberty 300
23:42 Liberty 400 - Наука та технологія
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NEWS AND UPDATES: Thanks for watching! Pelican shops will have most of the models on the chart. They also offer an ENHANCED warranty on most models, meaning, that they cover not only part costs but labor and shipping costs. They also get it done MUCH faster than dolphin directly or other stores. I will also most likely be the one to fix it when this occurs! No other store will cover shipping to and from and most do not cover labor. The goal is to let you have 100% peace of mind just in case it happens. Here is the link: pelicanshops1.com/collections/robotic-pool-cleaners
I WILL ALSO ATTACH NEW INFO OR CHANGES THAT HAPPEN THROUGHOUT THE SEASON ONTO THIS COMMENT BELOW THE REST SO CHECK THIS AS INFO MIGHT CHANGE MIDSEASON THAT WONT BE REFLECTED IN THE VIDEO
Feel free to comment in the comment section any questions you might have! I know not every little detail could be covered in this video otherwise it would be a decade long. Ask away if you have some more specific questions! the goal is to make this video as well as the comment section a resource of knowledge people can go to without any "BS" marketing confusion.
Update 1: (04.23.24) Liberty 400 gen 1 will only have 1.5 hour cycle. Gen 2 is planned to have 2.5 hour but I'm unsure when that will happen. The video states it will have 2.5 hours but dolphin has clarified not at first...
Very informative videos. I recently purchased a 27-foot above-ground pool. Can you do a video about vacuums for above-ground as well?
@@user-hh2eo6mr8h Essential dolphin offers the the E10, Escape, T15, S50, Active 10 for "above ground units" that will only do the floor of the above ground pool. HOWEVER you can use any unit in reality (although it might be overkill). I would say you can go up to the S300 column on the chart in the video without being considered overkill or look at the models I mentioned in the beginning of this comment. They have the same specs as the first column but will only do the floors
What is the expected life expectancy of a CC plus
I've never seen a Cayman for $599. Find me one and I will buy it on the spot. Great video otherwise
@@michaelraduazzo6146 yeah. unfortunately the stores might not follow MSRP. that's why I would suggest finding an equivalent like an E20
This is literally THE BEST pool cleaner video available. NO QUESTION. I have watched so many of these videos. They are by in large worthless. This is so thorough and so clear. I have also bought three robots so far and have returned all three prior to watching this. Dying for information. This was so helpful. I only wish you covered Polaris as well. Obviously, I understand why not. Amazing. Thank you so much!
This was one of the most informative videos on this topic. I finally understand all the features and benefits especially since just because it's more money doesn't mean it's better for your pool. Thanks.
Glad it was helpful! I appreciate the kind words
Thanks for taking the time to put this information together. You are absolutely right about which models are being pushed on UA-cam.
I'm glad the video helped!
Dude this video is exactly what I needed! There are so many dolphin models its hard to tell one from the other. This video is really well put together and has a ton os useful information for anyone looking to buy a pool vacuum. Thank you!
Glad you liked it! I know its insanely confusing
This is the best video I have found so far to try and help me decide what product does what
Thanks! Im gonna be calling your store and ordering one later today!
Great review of these pool cleaners. This was very helpful. 5*
Great and comprehensive video! Waiting for the Liberty 400 to hit shelves.
Very helpful! Thank you for putting this together!
You're very welcome!
Also, you're the only one who said what I found to be inconvenient. The bag with those cartridge slots it's absolutely ridiculous. Every advertisement and review talked about this huge bag but you stuffed it in that small cavity. The upside down loading and unloading. Again thank you!
yeah now you know my pain! people fall for that marketing ALL THE TIME. The video helps whoever watches it but only a small fraction of people ever see it but its good it helps who does see it for sure
Appreciate your honest opinion and criticism of all the Dolphin models, most informative youtube video out there regarding Dolphin cleaners. Pelicanshops also looks like a trusting authorized reseller.
I'm ready to upgrade from my Dolphin DX5 plus that I've had since around 2010 or so. It still does a good job but I'm so tired of cleaning out the bags and the remote hasn't worked for years. I am considering the E70 but now I'm considering the M600. Thanks for the video!
Best video on pool cleaners, period. I wish you had done this 2 months ago before I watched several scores of confusing (and lying) reviews of these robots. Thank you!
I'm glad you think so highly of it. Unfortunately your situation is a common thing that ends up happening. I try to post as much as possible on forums / groups online to help spread that awareness but it only goes so far.
This was truly one of the best video's I've seen in comparing in a practical way all of the 2024 lineup for Dolphin. As a result, i bought the Nautilus Supreme from Pelicanshops and hope to be able to come back and let you know how well it works. I had a Polaris P825 that i bought in 2017, never had an issue, but the controller went out so i decided to buy a new pool robot, we'll see how well these compare...thanks again for the great info!
I'm glad my video helped! I think you will be happy! Be sure to check out my Do's and Don'ts Video to help make the cleaner last a long life
Commenting again on this video for the algorithm. Your content is excellent for the pool owner community. You’ve mentioned making it in the past, but please make a Polaris vs Dolphin comparison video similar to what you did with Aiper!
thanks! I will make the video eventually. Just want to make sure its done the right way
GREAT video 🎉 helped me make my decision. Will be calling to order the M400 ❤
glad it helped!
Great video, thanks for all the work you put into this
My pleasure!
This was very helpful. Thanks!
Thank you!
Great video and glad I watched this (I watched last years as well)as u make it easy to navigate all the models so thank you! Just curious if you can say which store in NJ u work at? I’m about to pull the trigger on a unit and would like to personally say thanks if the store is close.
The website the chart is on and the location I work at is the Morris plains NJ location. The other locations are independently owned and do not have the same inventory or pricing unfortunately
So grateful you put this out for us
glad it helped!
Truly awesome video. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
I wish I would have found this video a week ago before my Sigma purchase. I even saw an M400 at my pool store and didn’t get it and ordered the Sigma. But, the Sigma clean is great! It took things out of my pool that I had no idea were there including a ton of dirt.
yeah the sigma can be very misleading.
How is the dolphine app fidelity? There seems to be multiple complaints online about the app "hanging up/ lagging" when navagating between screens, have you experienced the same feedback?
Great video. Do you see any improvements across models in not getting stuck in floor drain covers? I got a Quantum when my old DX3 died and was disappointed to find that it too gets stuck.
unfortunately the main drain issue is really dependent on the drain itself. if the drain is to large to the point where the unit can get fully pinned on it most robots will have an issue EXCEPT for the M400 and CC SUPREME which have that 3rd brush in the middle which allows it NOT to have a spot where it can be pinned up. those two units are pretty much immune to this issue. However units with dual drive motors (like the m400, cc supreme, m600, active 60, e70) also fair better due to moving faster and having usually momentum to get up and OVER compared to up and STUCK. Another remedy you can try is to run the unit without the pump running as sometimes the main drain suction and cleaner suction can create an effect where they just get stuck to each other in a way.... Sometimes that solves the issue all together. The unit might get stuck but most of the time it has fail safes in place to notice its stuck and get off. it might take 5-10 minutes but usually it can get off.
Excellent video! Question for you. I am deciding on M400 vs M600. I notice the M600 does not have the dual stabilizer the M400 has. Why is that? And does that make the M400 more effective at the water line? Also, I don’t understand the difference in the filter designs between both (cartridge and basket). Thanks.
Watch the video and you'll see the difference between the filters. I have a dead Dolphin s300i, and loved the basket design. Very easy to spray clean and empty. FWIW, after this incredibly helpful video, I'm replacing it with an M600 due to the active brush, basket filter and total of 3 motors. I live in NJ, so will buy from pelican, and am looking forward to the store-supported warranty/repair work, if needed. FWIW, there is currently a $100 manufacturer rebate during May (last day today) for the M600. You can see what other models have rebates on the Maytronics website.
Thanks a lot ! You are read as well outside the US ! 👌👏
Great review, very helpful. One question on the ultra-fine filters. Do they put undo/additional strain on impeller motor reducing lifespan?
no particular strain. but the motor considers the filter full when the strain increases so when the thicker filters are in it tends to consider itself full quicker when cleaning a really dirty pool. you want to just make sure you use fine filters as much as possible when the pool is dirty and then when the pool is pretty much clean swap to the ultra fine filters. its always a trade off. the thicker filters are great for filtering but suction power goes down to support that. fine filters allow higher suction power but less filtration. Still, most of the time you will be using ultra fine filters
@@thedolphindoctor Thank you very much for the prompt and precise reply. Appreciate it.
Great video! Have you looked into the Premium 20 40 and 60 models?
Yes. They are primarily in CANADA however there are a few sources of them in US. The correlate to s200, s400, m600. I would encourage you to buy one of those instead since parts (like the colored shells and side plates) in the US might be harder to come by down the line compared to the main US lines. However you might not ever need to replace them of course.
@@thedolphindoctor Thanks! I'm located in Canada so I guess there shouldn't be a concern with parts here then?
Excellent! Thank you so much for the video.
S200 looks right for me. I already own a caddy and do not need the wifi. But do want the ulra fine filter. And there is a $100 rebate at my pool store.
its a good value. be sure to check if pelican has it as they offer better warranty protection
I have a M400. Sometimes has trouble getting to water line. Also what position do I put the handle and do I put the counter block on handle out? Need some advice. Thanks so much!!! Great video!
you want the handle diagonal across the body. is trouble climbing brush the walls manually one more time. have floats extended all the way out
Hello, i’ve watched your videos and am wondering what your thoughts are on the dolphin s150?
Hello. It's not a US cleaner but from what I understand about the Australian S150 is is has the same specs of the s200 but instead of separate filter options it has the "dual filtration" basket similar to what the s400 has here in the US. I'm not 100% sure though. If your in Australia I would reach out to Sydney pool robotics to get more accurate info as they are on a lot of forums I'm on and seem to be a good hearted company based on how they try to help people similar to me in the US.
Thank you so much for this video. I'm a new pool owner and I have been so overwhelmed with figuring out which robot to buy. I only have a 12 x 24 salt water pool in Tampa. I want to make sure it cleans my waterline. Had no idea about the active brush. I don't have a cage and bump up against a conservation area (trees). I prefer to purchase at a brick and mortar. Which dolphin do you recommend?
depends on how bad the pool gets and how quickly. you can go S200 as it will do waterline but that unit might need to run more throughout the week since its not as strong as an M400 or M600. If you want a unit to run less but still clean just as good than M400 or M600. M600 if you really want the basket but also the power upgrades of M400. I leaves are an issue constantly a dual drive unit with higher suction might fair better (M400, M600) or run the weaker units more throughout to keep up
Hi, new subscriber here. Great content you provide! I have a question, I've had a pool in my old house and I just built a new pool in my new house. This one came with a side vacuum port which I have been using my MX6 Zodiac from before. Is there any benefit to something like a Dolphin, say the 800-1500 range of devices? The one thing that kind of annoys me now with my vac is the hoses all over my pool but I notice the Dolphin's still require the power cord in place when using. Do people just leave them in the water most of the time?Thanks!
the dolphins will filter more than just big leaves and dirt which the suction sides focus on. The dolphin will also SCRUB, and filter the water when using the ultra fine filters. amongst other benefits like wifi and not needing to run with the pool pump energy and many more.
People leave them in and people take them out. I always say the more its in the pool the more the chemicals will eat at it. I suggest watching the video I made about common mistakes as it covers all that stuff and its a lot to type out here lol ua-cam.com/video/ofG0QSFvPqg/v-deo.htmlsi=e7uFi0i4Ot0in9TT
Really appreciate your very thorough video. I found it after 3 hours of online research and going to my local pool store. I suspected that Maytronics sells identical models with different names through distribution channels at slightly different prices and you confirmed it! Also see that my now broken Pentair Prowler 520 is made by Dolphin so seems like there is not much competition in the robot cleaner market ... all roads lead to Maytronics? Does the pool mapping across the various models really make a difference? With my existing Prowler it seemed to be pretty much random. Do you fix a lot of problems with the power supply? My has needed to be replaced twice in 4 years ... could it just be because it is exposed to rain during the May - Oct pool season?
I find that power supply's are my most common warrantied part. In an effort to lower that number I have suggested to customers to do a few things. 1. do not let it bake in the sun. keep it shaded, especially when running. 2. keep it out of the rain. although its water resistant if it really DOWN pours, water resistance might not cut it. I first suggested the keeping it out of sunlight thing last July and have seen a SIGNIFICANT decrease in power supply warranties. Also keep in mind low grade extension cords and even high grade ones have an effect on the power supply and might effect their longevity and that is why Dolphin will say not to use them. The sunlight tip works because the power supply in its own right is computer, it heats up when on. Adding 90 degree + days on top of that can not be good for it. Can it run in the sun YES. but is it better to run shaded YES.
Dolphin is the largest brand by far at this time. You can look at Polaris as I think they are the only legitimate company worth possibly moving too but dolphin still has them beat on most fronts; quality, warranty process, filtration, and simplicity of design being what comes to mind.
The dolphin does map the pool out using INFORMATION AND MEASURING. in the most simple way: it measures distances between walls and wall heights to map the pool every time it runs and will clean the pool using that info. It doesn't retain this info in-between cycles otherwise it would need to start in the same exact spot every time.
Going with a unit that has 2 drive motors compared to 1 will increase performance since it does more laps around the pool in the same time. More coverage. They also have a stronger vacuum motor in most cases. that is why the M400 is such a good value this year
Hi! This was such a great & informational video. Thank you so much. We live in south florida and we have a small outdoor salt water pool 12x18 (I believe) roughly 6ft deep, figure 8 style with large shallow entry step. We get a lot of leaves/bugs/dirt/ other debris that collects throught the pool and the entry steps. We have someone who comes to clean the pool weekly but it gets dirty after 1 or 2 days anyways. The only thing I know to do is use some elbow greese and go in with a pool skimmer pole and get as much as i can. I dont know what else to do to clean the walls or floors and so we know we will need a robot cleaner to help keep it maintained. I also dont know where to find the hose to plug in a corded vaccum if we chose that style. Anyways, After your video I was debating between Liberty 400 or S300. We would love some of your expert feedback!
I'm partial to Corded until the batter life can improve. Liberty 400 will be a solid option but not until it gets 2.5 hour cleaning time which probably wont be until next season (I know video states it does but it has since been changed and is noted in the pinned comment.). For that size pool either will do. Not sure how it will do on the entry step however. you want to make sure the robot is fully submerged with at least 6 inches of water above it to supply a decent vacuum effect.
@thedolphindoctor thank you so much for responding! I do not believe there will be 6 inches above the vaccum to be able to clean the entry step, it's probably only about 3 inches of water or so. What do you suggest to clean that entry step? Also, there are a few areas which have a protruding rock style waterline and then tranition to flat tile, would these vaccums clean this too?
Besides the s300 or liberty 400, would you recommend any other models for our pool? Or based on the size do you think the run time on the liberty 400 right now is plenty enough?
Also, I feel much more comfortable ordering from a reputable location and your shop gives me come peace of mind especially with you there. Online says the liberty 400 is sold out there though. Should I keep waiting for the one that has the 2.5 hr battery life?
We have a 40 ft long pool. Was going to get the premium 20 but the website says “ideal pool length up to 33 ft”. In your video you say these models are good up to 50 ft pools.
Any advice on if a cleaner with a 50ft cable can clean a 40 ft pool?
Thanks
I do not have the premium line on this chart as its primarily only in Canada. you might be confusing it with the PREMIER which is on this chart and in the video. I would go off dolphins recommendation as the premium 20 will have a smaller basket and it would probably fill before being done. although the cord is 50 ft. you have to account for the depth of the pool as well! you might be able to pull it off but it would probably leave some room to be desired over an S200
Great video and easy to follow chart/comparison. I've had a Nautilus cc for 4 years and have replaced almost every part in it several times. Tracks always come off, sooner or later despite what you change. Replaced the cord after it broke in a spot. Worked for 2 weeks and now "attempts to come on" but nothing. Thinking it is the "brain box", but tired or throwing money at it. Sent it once to Nautilus. Returned with the same new parts doing exactly the same thing. Very frustrated. Have a 8-9000 gal pool at home. Need something good, does walls, no need for caddy, no wifi/bells and whistles, works daily, AND reliable. Suggestions to narrow it down??
good questions. Was the robot left in the pool most of the time? used when the chlorine was really high (like after shocking it, or maybe after using pH- chemicals)? you definitely should not have had this many issues. However the chlorine exposure does cause everything you have said over time. See my other comments on the leaving it in the pool topic to see what I mean. As for suggestions on what to go with next. You can go with a basket design so it is easier for you to maintain and empty out. The basket designs have less parts as well which in my mind is "less that can go bad" down the line. However basket designs are definitley geared more towards "keeping" a clean pool compared to CLEANING a really dirty pool. If you want something heavier duty than M400 would be an option Id look at as the value is there. Although it has wifi it does not rely on it.
@@thedolphindoctor yes, it was in the pool almost all the time. Lazy me figured it is meant to be in water and set to go off daily, so why add the work of in/out daily? Like I said, when it worked, especially the first few months, it was more than plenty for me. Poll does need a good cleaning now, but once cleaned it doesn't really need it daily. I just did it because it was already there. I'll look into the suggestion above, but hoping to spend a lot less than that if at all possible.
@@dgasmd1 At that point look at S200 or stay with CC plus, I think knowing that the issue was indeed the chlorine exposure and just being submerged too long I think youll have an improvement on the next one regardless of if its the same unit or different
Almost! I almost bought the Dolphin Premier since all the fake reviews and videos promoted it so much. I watched many of them and all the Google-sponsored reviews that just can't be trusted anymore. I am happy I came across this video. I am purchasing the M600 instead. Top load basket vs. upside down with an old bag design stuffed into a small chamber. Triple motors with dual scrubbing brushes vs. two motors vs. no active brush, caddy vs. no caddy, gyro vs no gyro, wi-fi app vs. none, manual drive and three cycle times vs. one, full bag indicator, smart nav with a new design vs. outdated Premier. I'll get the $100 rebate on the M600 and spend the extra $400. It is worth the difference to me.
I'm glad this video helped you! your kind words mean a lot.
Thank you for the excellent comparisons and comments.
Considering the filtration and extra features of the S400/Active 40, is the additional $330 CDN (in my market) worth it over the S300/Active 30 in your opinion?
Would the filtration system of the S400 be all that different from the S300?
Thank you.
I would say if you are gonna use the different cleaning cycle options and times as well as the pick up mode the S400 would be worth it. But if you only plan on going out and hitting that power button manually most of the time than the S300 would be a better value. The pick up mode is nice on the S400 though as your not putting strain on the cable when taking the unit out of the pool. HOWEVER you can use the manual drive mode on the s300 via WIFI to essentially do the same thing. The filtration difference is nice but should not be a sole reason to upgrade.
When deciding between a cartridge filter or basket filter, what criteria should I consider other than size of debris I find typically in my pool?
convenience would be one as it'll probably take you 30 seconds to a minute to clean out a basket vs 2-4 minutes with two cartridges. basket design has less parts overall compared to a cartridge design and they are easier for you the customer to maintain for example track and brush replacements are easier on a basket design. however the cartridge's deisgn is a little bit more efficient getting leaves as there is two entrances for large debris vs one on the basket.
Great video! Would you happen to know if the E10 is an appropriate vacuum for a 10,000 gallon round above ground Intex pool? Or would it be overkill?
it would be fine. it would only do the floor and lower walls
@@thedolphindoctor would it be okay to leave in the pool? (Only take out to empty the basket and when we are swimming)
@@jwalker3521I wouldn't recommend it. It won't last as long if you take it out
I’m really happy I found this comparison. My suction side cleaner (Pentair Rebel) is officially at the end of its life cycle and I’ve been considering switching to a robotic cleaner. I was looking at the Nautilus CC due to the obvious price point and recommendations of people on some blogs. I’m not so sure if that’s the best value for my pool now. Such a tough decision because I really don’t want to spend $1200 on a pool cleaner either especially when I can replace my current cleaner for $400. Can you provide a video on potential maintenance costs on these robotic cleaners? Like am I going to expect to pay $300 dollars every time something breaks? That would definitely be a deciding factor on whether I want to make the switch. I should also mention that my pool is open year round (South Florida) and have a very large black olive tree that dumps a ton of leaves in my pool.
I would say yes and no to your question. usually only 3 things go bad on these things... motor, cable, power box. But if you TAKE CARE OF THEM and avoid he common mistakes people make, take it out often and dont leave it in the pool to get corroded by long term high chlorine exposure or pH reducer chems you should have a long life of AT LEAST 5 years before that happens. pulling on cord to strongly, not keeping power box out of shade are also things I would avoid doing. THE MORE its in the pool the more parts will break which means more maintenance. suction side cleaners are constantly needing yearly maintenance to replace belts, wheels, bearing because they are constantly in the pool which means almost a yearly cost to maintain it. usually with a dolphin IF MAINTAINED PROPERLY should not need that BUT when it does need work it can be pricey. depending on the model though you might be able to repair it on your own to save on labor or bench fees which can work out!
I have inquired from my local pool store about the Active30 but I just wanted your opinion on it for a 40 foot long fiberglass pool with a toe ledge all the way around it? Will it do a sufficient job climbing the walls and cleaning the waterline?
It should be able to get over the hump of the toe ledge. The motor being situated towards the front of that model keep it from falling backwards on those types of ledges, instead it usually falls towards the inner wall after the ledge. Just keep in mind if the robot can't fully fit on the ledge it might not get the best suction to vacuum the actual ledge.
Thank you so much! I’m in Cincinnati. Our local store doesn’t do service. If I call your store and order from you guys could I ship it to you for service? I’d love to purchase from you!
@@TeresaChapman-bw1fu yes pelican will do that for sure. They cover the shipping.
Can you help me find a recondition kit for a s300i? I think its time for new brushes and treads.
look for these parts online: front brush 99831221, back brush 6130006, 99831521 for the tracks.
@thedolphindoctor I have curved walls is there one that is best for cleaning curved walls that you recommend?
any would handle the curved walls. I would still say go at least from the S200 column or up though.
My pool supply place only has a s100 or e30 for above ground pool with water line capability. Which one is better?
E30. However pelican shops can definitely ship to you. Their link is in the description
Thanks for the video. I have a 30L x 12W, gunite pool with a slope going from 3 to 6 feet in southwest FL. I am trying to decide which robot will be best for me. I get some leaves and mulch in my pool so I am considering a basket design; however, I don't mind picking up most of the leaves with the net if needed. Do I need the app and the caddy? If no, I am wondering if I can get away with the some of the models in the standard series, namely the S200, Quantum, Active 20. I know I want the ultra fine filters.
If I should have the app and caddy, I am considering the S300, Active 30 or T45. The CC Supreme and the M400 with the 3 motors are intriguing but I don't know if I need all that power and I am wondering if I should have the basket instead of cartridge.
As you can see, even though I know a lot more after watching the video and looking at the chart, I still don't know which model I should buy. Thanks in advance for your help.
WIFI and caddy aren't necessary. they are there for people who want the added convenience but they are not necessary. Netting/ brushing will always be something you might have to do if the pool is bad and I always suggest doing it for people who open up in the spring. You being in FL don't need to worry about that part lol. S200 would get the job done, its designed to KEEP a pool clean. where M400 is much more efficient in cleaning a dirty pool. BOTH UNITS can do that but it just take S200 longer to do so, more cycles. You also need to run S200 more through out the week where M400 not as much. I would say look at those two models if you don't want WIFI. ALTHOUGH m400 has WIFI, its not reliant on it... The value is there to make it worth its price regardless if you use the WIFI or not. Feel free to call me at Pelican 9733134424 and just ask for John during the week days. Its definitely a complicated purchase to make
@@thedolphindoctor thank you John for helping me select the best option for my pool and my location. I really appreciated the consideration to the different models I had in mind and how we came to decide on the M400. I am in the middle of a seawall replacement project, so the M400 will be put to the test right away as they are kicking up a bunch of dust.
Hello from Upstate New York. Wife and I got our first inground pool last fall and are now in the market for a vacuum. Our pool is salt, 16x36, and is in large open space with no trees and will not have much foot traffic for the most part (just the wife and I). Do you think the Liberty 200 would do the job? I like the idea of going cordless and having to charge it before every use is not an issue. Thanks!
Or is the extra $200 for the ultra fine filters the way to go?
for an inground pool the liberty 200 wont perform at the same level a corded would at this point. the 1.5 hour cycle time is going to lead to the pool not being cleaned as much as a 2 or 2.5 hour cycle. The Liberty 400 which is eventually..... coming this year (keeps getting delayed) will be the full fledged in ground cordless from dolphin, having a 2.5 hour cycle time and water line cleaning. I would definitely stick with dolphin either way. Going corded is not bad at all. Cordless has its own downsides at this point that I think outweigh the cord. Liberty 400 will be the exception though!
Can you comment on the new M550 compare to M600 please ? And what is advantage of 3 motors instead of one ? I have pool with ceramic 12x6M . Thanks for video that clear my mind about the range
M550 is not out in US yet but its essentially an M600 without all the customization options etc. It will be included in next years video when it hits shelves here in US
Great video. You just cleared up a huge amount of confusion I've had with all the different Dolphin models. Subscribed
Can you please tell me if any of these models will clean the wall and waterline above a pool bench? This is important to me because 65% of my pool walls have a bench which renders most robots with waterline cleaning useless in those areas. The only video reviews I've seen for robots that do the walls and waterline above a bench is the Beatbot Aquasense Pro but I haven't seen a review of what happens with any Dolphin in bench areas. Issue being the Aquasense is brand new and there is no way to see how well they hold up or are supported yet vs. Dolphin which has solid support.
It depends on the bench can you get me dimensions of the bench. How deep is it from the waterline, how deep is the seat from the edge of it to the wall? Basically we need to see if the dolphin will fit on the whole bench and be submerged enough so it can get a footing on the bench itself and then to initiate the climb to the waterline after that. Its a tough call for sure
My benches are 16" wide (edge to wall) and 20" below the waterline @@thedolphindoctor
Here in Canada we have the Premium 40 and Premium 60. Would I be right to assume they compare to the S400 and M600?
from what I understand that is correct!
I have a CC plus
It will move around and when it gets to a step and run along the side of it, it turns on its side and wont right itself
Any ideas,
Thanks
that unit is lopsided in terms of it's weight. I believe I mention it in the video as well. the single drive motor sits on the one side which makes it heavier on that side and causes this issue. so much to the point they added the wheel on the one side to help it off its side. ALSO the two floats on the cable SIGNIFICANTLY help this issue but with the steps usually the unit isn't fully submerged so the floats don't help in that situation. My suggestion is if its returnable, do so and swap to an S200. its a bit more but with the $100 rebate, the fact it can do waterline, basket design, and comes with both filter types more than make up for the price difference. If you cant return it you can try adjusting your water level to be a bit higher or lower so its either submerged more to help get off that step or have it lower so it cant get up onto that step in the first place. I wish I had a better answer but I do not. unfortunately its not a common issue but it still happens sometimes in certain pools
@@thedolphindoctor it's 4 years old and it sits on the bottom of the pool at the step so about 3 ft of water
I am having a new inground mountain lake pool being built 20x40 8ft deep end what vacdo you recommend without killing the bank
without killing the bank S200. But keep in mind units that don't kill the bank have a lower performance. Not as strong, need to run more throughout the week especially if pool is dirty etc.
What happened to the weekly timer for the nautilus CC? They changed to a basic single button power supply. I ordered from dolphin expecting the timer power supply. A bit upset about this.
what cc did you get? just the "cc"? cc plus with wifi? cc pro? My understanding is that JUST the "cc" model and "cc plus without wifi" would have the "123" button for scheduling. The others must be done through WIFI. Keep in mind dolphin does not sell direct even on amazon etc its just a dealer/reseller you can probably reach out to the seller and ask.
Any updates on the Liberty 400. I need a reason not to but a Beatbot ;-) thanks
Id be weary of beatbot. the marketing makes no sense. there is no way that unit has 9 motors and has that run time. Id be concerned with replacement part availability. the more parts (especially motors) the more chance of issues and with a newer company like that i would look into what they cover in regards to shipping etc. Liberty 400 is coming June apparently but will only have 1.5 hour cleaning for the first GEN. fall should see a 2.5 hour cycle. either way I'm still suggesting corded until the 2.5 hour comes out. even then the liberty 400 will still only be a valid corded replacement for people considering s200 or below.
@@thedolphindoctor great info. To be honest we had settled on the Liberty 300 as “Management” does not want cords. We have time to wait so I am interested in features and price point of Liberty 400 for our application. We have a modest sized pool ~ 10,000 gallons with a birdcage so hope not to have the larger debris we currently have with our bigger open pool. I do like the pedigree of the Dolphin and ability to buy and have serviced locally.
I have an 8ft tanning ledge, whats the best wireless robot pool cleaner?
the tanning ledge will be something you still want to brush manually as the unit will most likely not be full submerged to work properly. The best cordless at this point will be the Liberty 300 until the 400 hits shelves
@@thedolphindoctorthanks! Better than the Polaris Freedom Plus?
@thedolphindoctor in Australia they sell the X line like the Dolphin X 40 Plus. What would that be in the US market?
It seems like the X40 plus (which from what I see is grey and yellow colored) is an S400 equal in terms of closest resemblance in the US.
Thank you@@thedolphindoctor but they also sell the S400 here in AU so there must be a difference between X40 and S400....
@@shdwarli Different distributors similar to how active 40 and s400 are the same exact thing here.
hi, tremendous comparison video. I have a very old pool, which I believe is concrete. I've been paying my pool guy the past two years because he thinks all these machines will basically break because of the concrete. this year, I'd rather save money by buying my own vacuum. Any recommendation for an old style pool?
concrete wont mean anything. As long as its not left in high chlorine you should be fine. concrete might wear brushes and tracks slightly faster but if you take it out when not in use that will help. if it lives in the water submerged it makes it easier to have parts wear down due to chlorine exposure
@@thedolphindoctor thanks for the prompt response. I know it’s hard to say, but I have a lot of trees around my pool, where I clean it multiple times daily. I just purchased a Betta SE solar powered skimmer to help, but any recommendations on a great portable vacuum that can be used daily? I’m in the price range for 500-1000$
Last year you mentioned a liberty 600/700/800. Are those still in the works?
delayed with no ETA unfortunately
@@thedolphindoctor Sigh... I guess Ill stay suscribed to you for when you have news. Thaks for the quick reply!
Any idea why my cc plus stop moving. If I take it out from the water and give it a push. It will move for a little bit. Should I send in for a repair or just get a new one?
have you checked the impeller. check out dolphins dealer locater and see where the closest one that works on them is. See if they do free diagnostics or if its under warranty if they can fix it. the model has a 2.5 year warranty
@@thedolphindoctor impeller is running. just not the belts. it is out of warranty by a hair. I was going to send it in to dolphins but it will be at least $200 for whatever it is.. i guess now is time for a new one...
@@jefferytse did you ask if they can honor it if its really just by a hair they usually honor it if within a month of being out.
@@thedolphindoctor ok. I will ask. Do you think premier is my best bet? My pool isn’t big. I ground. About 20k gallon
I see "premium" 10 20 40 60. Are these the same as the E series? Where do they fall on the chart.
they are mainly a canadian line but oddly some are available in the US. From my understanding
Premium 20 = S200
Premium 30 = S300
Premium 40 = S400
Premium 60 = M600
however premium line does not get the rebates dolphin offers in the US like the S or M line so the better value still belongs to the S / M Lines
Do you have any experience with the Dolphin Quantum? Im between that and the M400.
S200 will be the better value with the rebate over Quantum especially with pelicans enhanced warranty. but M400 is one (if not the best) valued cleaners at the price you get a lot of bang for your buck
@@thedolphindoctor Thanks, Looks like the M400!, I noticed on your website that the CC Supreme has upgraded navigation. do you know if that's a big upgrade? or since they are both about the same cost?
@@dennisalvarado2314 they have same navigation.
@@dennisalvarado2314 they have the same navigation
I own a hotel and live near a black sand beach, people will jump in the pool and get sand on the bottom all the time... Out of these vacuums what do you recommend would be best for that? I plan to run it at night so that in the morning it is clean and ready for guests to use.
depends on how large the pool is. if it is within 50 feet you can stay within the "residential" category of dolphins, which is everything covered in this video. However I would still go heavier duty due to how much it would be used. Since you said sand would be an issue I would also say go with one that has less parts overall. The sane will wear down the parts faster as it gets in the units inner workings and slowly sands them down. You will want to be vigilant in hosing off all the nooks and crannies to dislodge as much as you can. My reccomendation would be the M600 but if you want a lower cost go M400 but keep in mind is has more parts. I do not think any single drive unit (premier, s200, s300 etc) would be a good option as they will have to run a lot more to keep a busy pool clean. you need to be efficient as possible. I think M600 set to the extended cycle option of 2.5 hours would be great. you can even set it to do floor only if needed to really focus on the sand.
@@thedolphindoctor awesome thank you for your response! The only thing is I need to order the vacuum online since I live outside of USA… I believe the M600 is only pickup from stores? I usually order everything off Amazon, in that case would you recommend the E70? Also our pools aren’t that big, but sometimes there is an excessive amount of sand in them. The filter on the E70 would be able to hold a good bit of sand? Or would I need to constantly take it out, clean it then put it back in?
@@Sugarcuddles1 where are you located? you just have to make sure the warranty isnt voided by being outside the USA.
@@thedolphindoctorI live in Costa Rica, but I don't care too much about the warranty. It would be nice but if its voided that's okay.
@@Sugarcuddles1 E70 would be the same as M600 as it is the same robot but with the added thermostat feature
is it OK to leave your cleaner in the pool? If not, why do they have the 3 options for restart.
A common question often brought up by customers for sure! Here is my take: (be sure to read the 2nd paragraph as it adds some context!)
My viewpoint is that the scheduling is a double edged sword, although convenient its not the best for your cleaner as its in the pool most of the time. It also depends on how much you need to use the pool vacuum. Some pools only need it 1 or 2 times a week, some need more. So if your only using it 1 or 2 times there is really no need to use the scheduling feature in my opinion as the benefits of taking it out and potentially getting years more in life far outweigh the benefits of the scheduler.
This is common debate amongst any automatic pool vacuum owner. On one hand you have the
argument of “well it made for the pool it should be in the pool”. This is a common viewpoint some people have, especially if they are coming from a
suction side pool cleaner which was ALWAYS in the pool. This argument makes sense if you don’t account for anything else. The biggest Killer of
automatic pool cleaners is long exposure to chlorine (ESPECIALLY HIGH LEVELS OF CHLORINE). The longer its in it the longer it has time to eat at your
vacuum. It causes a tangling cord and it slowly dries out the o rings that keep the water out of the important spots like the motor and the cable
detangler. So, when you take into account these facts, the argument of “it is made to be in the pool it should be in the pool” falls apart. It might be made for water but its not designed to withstand chlorine all the time. I’ve seen cleaners that are only a year old come back looking like they are 10 years old and I’ve seen the opposite.
So, on the other hand, my suggestion is, take it out when not in use OR at the very least take it out when you shock the pool. So, for example, if
you shock the pool (or super chlorinate it if you have a salt generator) on a Sunday night then leave the pool vacuum out until Tuesday night. Giving that high chlorine level to come back down to normal levels. DOLPHIN suggest to only run their robots in chlorine levels lower than 4ppm.
How do I become a warranty center? Been fixing aquabots for years but sell dolphin now
you want to reach out to your rep and get that set up
the marketing shows that the sigma does have an active scrubber brush. am I confused?
always use the chart here or dolphins direct website. The sigma only has the front and back brush. not the middle "active brush" maytronics website lists only 2 brushes. the M400 and cc supreme will list 3 brushes. on the cartridge design: units with 2 brushes wont have an active brush. the ones that list 3 will have active brush in the middle. on the BASKET design: They all have an active scrubber for the front brush. Hope this clears things up. I know it can be misleading. Trust me. I was all over the place when designing the chart. but from personally working on the sigma I can tell you it does not come with the 3rd brush / active scrubber.